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But the side-bar says the following:

Conspiracy - a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful

Because dual citizens hold posts that allow them to manipulate the process to channel us taxpayer funds to a country that normally wouldn't be receiving them. The average non-coastal American could give two fucks about Israel's security. We're more concerned with things like jobs, housing and food ....here in America. But through influence peddling, blackmail and outright bribery the agenda of the Israeli Govt. (Not the jewish people as whole) takes center stage and usually gets it's way. Also for an ally they have a pretty large intelligence(mossad) presence here , they've spied on us and been caught numerous times and they tend to target American companies and the govt. when it comes to theft of intellectual property/technology. But despite all this they still get sweetheart foreign aid and defense deals. In all fairness we treat the saudi's the same way and they're equally as shitty on the same level.

Here's a link , but do your own searches too

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mossad-in-america/

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Never said it was, but I would expect it to set some type of parameters for the subreddit it inhabits.

I just don't think continuously submitting stuff that you personally politically disagree with or find evil is healthy for the community at large. It reduces it to simply being a echo chamber of /r/politics.

Why is U.S. support for Israel considered a conspiracy here?

Apparently America is in such dire straits they had to cut back food stamps but they have enough money keep sending to an external country. That's the conspiracy.

Well, to be fair, the United States didn't cut specifically food stamps just to specifically continue aiding Israel.

That's stupid. Any you're ignoring the other cuts that were made across the board, including cuts to the U.S. military and calls for a reduction in it's size.

The food stamps being cut was public, Israel being given military aid is public. It's a political decision, perhaps not a wise one, but not a secret plan nor one being done without the knowledge of the citizenry. And the reasoning for it, from official sources, is readily available.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but the parameters for a submission here shouldn't be something you personally oppose politically or personally think is evil/disgusting. That's something for /r/politics.

Well, to be fair, the United States didn't cut specifically food stamps just to specifically continue aiding Israel.

Well apparently helping Israel out is more important than some poor kid eating.

That's stupid.

Yeah, the whole thing is pretty stupid.

Any you're ignoring the other cuts that were made across the board, including cuts to the U.S. military and calls for a reduction in it's size.

Heh, how much did they cut? 10%? From over 600 billion? Big deal.

Also they're giving money to Israel who is apparently selling weapons to Iran, so some friend the USA is buying: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.575320

and calls for a reduction in it's size.

Oooh, calls for reduction, that sounds like real action, I'm sure it's right up there with closing gitmo.

The food stamps being cut was public, Israel being given military aid is public.

So is the CIA selling cocaine, just because it's known doesn't make it not a conspiracy.

It's a political decision, perhaps not a wise one, but not a secret plan nor one being done without the knowledge of the citizenry.

Obama picks basketball teams for March madness vs. Israel's military budget from the USA, which one do you think is covered more in the media?

And the reasoning for it, from official sources, is readily available.

Yeah, they want to make sure they have a friend over there that can spy on the oil holding countries that America really wants to drain.

Which leads to another conspiracy, seems to me technology for wind and sun farming and Thorium reactors is here and now, why spend all the money to war and buy country's friendships can't be spent developing them?

Perhaps I'm wrong, but the parameters for a submission here shouldn't be something you personally oppose politically or personally think is evil/disgusting.

Really? Issues you personally or politically oppose are usually the tip of an iceberg of a conspiracy. If Tice wasn't personally disgusted by the NSA he wouldn't have blown the whistle on them which let everyone know what they're up to.

That's something for /r/politics.

They won't allow those kinds of discussions, welcome to r/conspiracy.

Well apparently helping Israel out is more important than some poor kid eating.

I...never said that? Or even implied it? Conspiracy shouldn't be equivalent to something you just politically and personally disagree with. Than we're just a /r/politics echo chamber.

Heh, how much did they cut? 10%? From over 600 billion? Big deal.

Oooh, calls for reduction, that sounds like real action, I'm sure it's right up there with closing gitmo.

So? You know how much the military is spending, you know how much they're cutting. You see the process right before your eyes and critize it on the surface. That's my point.

An this isn't a conversation whether it's right or wrong, so stop making it to be.

Also they're giving money to Israel who is apparently selling weapons to Iran, so some friend the USA is buying: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.575320

The Israeli arms dealer selling weapons to Iran is a conspiracy and we should posit theories about whom he is connected to and what his motivation is.

But official military relationship between that of the United States and Israel are not conspiracies. They should be criticized, sure; held up as a secret master plan? No. Because they're not. The realpolitik and moral aspects are publicly known, the people who implemented them publicly open about it.

So is the CIA selling cocaine, just because it's known doesn't make it not a conspiracy.

Actually...that was a conspiracy....and it wasn't known at the time hence why it was such a scandal. You...you don't quite know your CIA history very well, do you?

Obama picks basketball teams for March madness vs. Israel's military budget from the USA, which one do you think is covered more in the media?

Look up March madness in /r/politics and than look up Israel and tell me which gets more hits. ;)

That's my point, it's turning this subreddit into a echo chamber of /r/politics.

Yeah, they want to make sure they have a friend over there that can spy on the oil holding countries that America really wants to drain.

Yeah, but that's pretty well-known and like I said the reasoning for it is publicly available.

Which leads to another conspiracy, seems to me technology for wind and sun farming and Thorium reactors is here and now, why spend all the money to war and buy country's friendships can't be spent developing them?

And that's a legitimate conspiracy. Why is it so difficult for you to separate the two? Do you need help? You can PM me if you want. :)

They won't allow those kinds of discussions, welcome to r/conspiracy.

Yeah they do.

Like a lot. lol

I...never said that? Or even implied it? Conspiracy shouldn't be equivalent to something you just politically and personally disagree with. Than we're just a /r/politics echo chamber.

So what are you saying? There's a big pile of tax payer money and if some of that money goes to an external entity rather than going to feed a poor kid in America that it's ok as long as it's "appropriated as such". It's that kind of thinking that allows the criminals to get away with this sort of thing. You're taking what's going on and trying to say it in a way that makes it ok. It's not ok.

So? You know how much the military is spending, you know how much they're cutting. You see the process right before your eyes and critize it on the surface. That's my point.

Their budget should be cut 90%.

You see the process right before your eyes and critize it on the surface.

Today, they'll up the budget when they start needing to go in the Ukraine and Iran. They're always about processes never about solutions.

An this isn't a conversation whether it's right or wrong, so stop making it to be.

Sure it is, stop trying to make it be about politics.

By the way, I see a lot of people like you coming around and telling me what not to do, I'll do what I like, I'd love to see you come and stop me.

The Israeli arms dealer selling weapons to Iran is a conspiracy and we should posit theories about whom he is connected to and what his motivation is.

We're working on it but we have jobs and shit, the people who's job this is isn't really at it too hard, they're too busy digging deep on Bieber.

But official military relationship between that of the United States and Israel are not conspiracies. They should be criticized, sure; held up as a secret master plan?

Seems to me if I were Israel and knew I'd get money to protect myself so America would have a nice safe helipad I'd start attacking my own country with covert operations that I'd blame on the pissed off poor people next door. Then America would give me more money and my people would be mad at the poor people so we could stay spraying them with stink sprays.

No. Because they're not. The realpolitik and moral aspects are publicly known, the people who implemented them publicly open about it.

Yeah, there's lots of things that are publically known yet a sub like TIL exists, go figure, people aren't computers who are all immediately updated on what the government is doing via an RSS feed in their head. They're busy trying to make a living and have a good time when they can.

Actually...that was a conspiracy....and it wasn't known at the time hence why it was such a scandal. You...you don't quite know your CIA history very well, do you?

You.. you.. duh... er... uh... you.. and dot dot dot use makes me feel smarter sneer! When are you going to start saying things like 'That's a strawman arguement!" typical of your ilk.

Wealth iniquality in America is public information. So how come what Americans think the rich take in is so freakishly far off from what's happening?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

Probably because of disinfo, the media, the propaganda, the slave training. That's the conspiracy, this stuff may be out there but it's not getting through to people, that's the conspiracy. Same with Israel and how much they get from the USA. Americans may have an idea of countries getting support but they don't know it's in the trillons.

We're not even adding all the kosher tax America gives to Israel.

Look up March madness in /r/politics and than look up Israel and tell me which gets more hits. ;)

Most of the masses aren't on reddit let alone r/poltitics let alone the internet, most of them get it from major media congolmorates.

That's my point, it's turning this subreddit into a echo chamber of /r/politics.

No, people telling people not to say things is turning this sub in to r/politics.

Yeah, but that's pretty well-known and like I said the reasoning for it is publicly available.

Known to young males on Reddit, your aunt is clueless.

And that's a legitimate conspiracy. Why is it so difficult for you to separate the two? Do you need help? You can PM me if you want. :)

It's all spokes of the same conspiracy, it's called "the system" Do you need help with the system? Do you need the system's support? Want it to come wipe your bum?

They won't allow those kinds of discussions, welcome to r/conspiracy.

Yeah but only from user u/User_Name13, I'm sure there's no conspiracy there.

TL;DR You lie, you put words in my mouth, characterize me based on your own personal projections, you distract from the conversation at hand and propagandize everything that leaves your mouth through blatant misleading. I can't hold a honest, balanced conversation without you implying I'm some kind of shill.

I don't usually call people shills, but you are expressing some very shill-like behavior, and I'm not going to keep talking to you. Have a pleasant day. :)

So what are you saying? There's a big pile of tax payer money and if some of that money goes to an external entity rather than going to feed a poor kid in America that it's ok as long as it's "appropriated as such". It's that kind of thinking that allows the criminals to get away with this sort of thing. You're taking what's going on and trying to say it in a way that makes it ok. It's not ok.

No, I'm not saying that at all. I never said I agree with it. You're putting words in my mouth and propagandizing what I'm saying again.

All I said was it's not a conspiracy.

Their budget should be cut 90%.

Cool? Doesn't really have much to do with the conversation at hand, it's actually distracting from it and taking us off-topic.

Sure it is, stop trying to make it be about politics.

By the way, I see a lot of people like you coming around and telling me what not to do, I'll do what I like, I'd love to see you come and stop me.

People like me? I'm not trying to stop you, I'm just pointing out what you're saying is distracting, propagandizing and off-topic. Classic traits of somebody trying to spread misinformation.

And I don't care enough about you to stop you, nor would I want too. Everybody has the right to freedom of speech. You're not special or deserving of extra attention. lol

Seems to me if I were Israel and knew I'd get money to protect myself so America would have a nice safe helipad I'd start attacking my own country with covert operations that I'd blame on the pissed off poor people next door. Then America would give me more money and my people would be mad at the poor people so we could stay spraying them with stink sprays.

So Hezbollah and Hamas don't exist? Does the situation in Palestine even exist if this is your logic?

Wealth iniquality in America is public information. So how come what Americans think the rich take in is so freakishly far off from what's happening?

Probably because of disinfo, the media, the propaganda, the slave training. That's the conspiracy, this stuff may be out there but it's not getting through to people, that's the conspiracy. Same with Israel and how much they get from the USA. Americans may have an idea of countries getting support but they don't know it's in the trillons.

We're not even adding all the kosher tax America gives to Israel.

What does this have to do with the quoted text? Do you even know?

Most of the masses aren't on reddit let alone r/poltitics let alone the internet, most of them get it from major media congolmorates.

There's more of the masses there than on /r/conspiracy though....

No, people telling people not to say things is turning this sub in to r/politics.

I never told you to say anything? I just said I disagreed with what you were saying. Am I not allowed to disagree with you?

It's all spokes of the same conspiracy, it's called "the system" Do you need help with the system? Do you need the system's support? Want it to come wipe your bum?

Than civilization in general is a "conspiracy"? Is...is that what you're saying? That's fucking stupid and you should feel stupid for saying it.

Yeah but only from user u/User_Name13, I'm sure there's no conspiracy there.

He posted 7 out of 70 of submitted links. Once again, you're lying and misleading the community.

OP, good question, r conspiracy has some of the group who say every fault on the planet is caused by Jewish Bankers, the Jewish NWO, and in an extraordinary bit of confusion, the Jewish led neo-cons. (extraordinary because as you say conservatives are openly supportive of Israel, have always been.)

You are forgetting that other old and strong branch of U.S. conservatism, still unacknowledged by most elected Republicans and/or the remaining conservative Democratic.

That particular branch of conservatism was the root of U.S. Conspiracy movement,

until the acts of the 1960s, the assassinations, all the CIA programs we have been discussing here, plus Watergate, Iran Contra, 9/11, Iraq War, N.S.A. programs etc.

They are still part of U.S. conspiracy movement and part of this sub.

Because the so-called "US Government" routinely violates its own laws and inconsistently applies "international law" with respect to Israel, and allows Unregistered Foreign Agents to remain in the country and escape prosecution, a failure to enforce the laws which is grounds for impeachment.

In reality you are correct, it belongs on the front page, top of politics as an echo of the classic reddit that wasn't so clearly compromised. Today the only place to discuss any criticism of the big "I" is here. Enjoy.

No, that's not correct at all.

I mean, there's plenty of criticism upvoted in the past couple months.

Hardly what I would call criticism, more like opportunistic PR. Comments will undoubtedly white wash the incident,

But many of the most upvoted comments in those thread don't white wash it at all, in fact, they do the exact opposite.

Hmm, wonder why all of them are submitted by u/User_Name13...

They were probably allowed through because America wanted to poke Israel a little.

Good catch, he knows how the game works.

He submitted 7 out of the first 70 submissions listed.

What Billistixx just said was pretty god damn misleading and manipulative.

7 out 70 submissions are by him

Did...did you even look at it? The guy seems to be pretty anti-Israel, but saying they're all submitted by him is just a damn lie.

You are deliberately being misleading and lying to the people here.

Did...did you even look at it? The guy seems to be pretty anti-Israel, but saying they're all submitted by him is just a damn lie.

All the big ones that got visible appear to be by him.

You are deliberately being misleading and lying to the people here.

Nope, just offering perspective. You're offering a reddit search result as some sort of fact, that's way worse.

r/politics is a conspiracy anyway, it's called r/politics but it's got the white house in the header, shouldn't r/politics be about general political discussion and r/usapolitics be about American politics and r/worldpolitics be about every country's politics?

That's another fucking lie.

Like....fuck...you didn't even skip a beat.

You propagandizing motha fucker; I am done talking to you. lol

That's another fucking lie.

Which point, you're just going to blanket my whole post with your nice bold font?

Like....fuck...you didn't even skip a beat.

I know, it's like I'm not new at this or something.

You propagandizing motha fucker; I am done talking to you. lol

Don't forget to take your toys home with ya.

Reading you're comments here makes me think the jidf is paying you pretty nicely, but I'll bite. For starters ill concede that some posts here could be better suited for /r/politics and some could be in both. I also can't speak for why anything here is one way or another, I'm just a user.

My reasons though, are as follows:

1. The public knowledge on how much we give them/support them isn't known by most, and purposely so.

2. That we send billions there while there is so much suffering here.

3. That the legitimacy of the country of Israel is itself conspiracy/conspiracy related topic. Therefor making the support of such one as well.

4. The injustices and crimes committed by the Israeli government yet our unwavering support.

5. Our support of Israel is a major reason of tension and conflict with an almost entire region of people and with the worlds second largest religion.

I can expand on each and will probably think of more. Hope this helps, look forward to hearing from ya!

AH! Thought of this one as soon as I clicked save.

1. Some conspiracies along with 9/11 propose connections with Israel perpetrating them.

You know, you made a very insightful and intelligent comment, and even though I disagree with a number of points, I'm happy you took the time out of your day to comment and hold a balanced debate, but just going off this:

Reading you're comments here makes me think the jidf is paying you pretty nicely, but I'll bite.

Fuck you alright. I can't express my opinion without being labelled a fucking shill, are you god damn serious? Is my freedom of speech and expression not respected here, but instead trivialized and mocked?

I can't possibly hold a different opinion unless I'm a paid Israeli shill. Fucking seriously dude, I'm sick of the implication. It defeats healthy conversation and such off-the-deep-end accusations with no corroborating evidence is the very enemy of skepticism.

I really wanted to respond, but I'm not going to involve myself in a debate when you throw everything I say out the window for simply being something a "paid shill would say".

Haha ok bud, sorry to see you so butthurt about it. I have to say I'm not too surprised with you finding a reason not to address my points, but I digress. For starters I never said "paid shill would say" as you apparently misquoted in your response. I also never threw anything out a window, let alone everything. You asked a question, I don't know how one throws that out a window when responding? Next shills/jidf are far from a "off-the-deep-end accusations." (also why plural? i mentioned one thing...singular) Shills and the jidf are a very real enemy and problem here of what you claim to want, 'healthy conversation.' I reaaaally hope you're able to get the rest of that sand out of your vagina soon. Look forward to your response saying how you wont respond!

No, that's not correct at all.

I mean, there's plenty of criticism upvoted in the past couple months.