Human beings have potential. The human race has so much potential. Look at technological advances and see just what we can do.

To know that our potential is intentionally being held back due to the interests of a handful of sociopaths is enraging.

I'd like to believe that things can be changed if enough awareness is reached. I believe that the internet is the best tool in history to provide such an event.

It matters because if enough of us truly try we can change tomorrow today.

You're okay with being a slave and having others determine your circumstances and reality for you?

some people are...apparently

Simply put this: "Give me liberty or give me death."

It is human nature to want to be free from being oppressed and being able to express one's own true self. No one wants to be a slave willingly and knowingly. We are the ones that know, and therefore, it leaves us wanting our freedom.

Your question sounds more like: Why does a slave want to be free?

Many conspiracy theories have proven to be conspiracy facts. We're dealing here with the flow of information. Knowledge is power. Most nations put a significant amount of their resources into intelligence gathering. Most people don't want to bother with such things, until of course, they get screwed by the con.

“A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.”

• Aldous Huxley

As long as you do not submit to the whim of war-mongering totalitarians and conformist ideologies you contribute to the ongoing challenge to overreaching authority.

I care, because I dislike injustice, because the related topics interest me whether I agree with them or not, and because I don't give a shit about what the status quo claims is normal, and what isn't.

So, you are actively choosing to believe in subjective, non-verifiable, cultural notion like "justice".... a notion, mind you, created by a group of people who were using it for the sake of controlling others; namely, governments and religious institutions....and on top of that, this notion is making you miserable with your living conditions? Those that are otherwise extremely comfortable? So in short, you are choosing to be irked/miserable/upset?

Yes, because I have the right to choice & belief. I'd hardly say miserable describes my argument, I choose to be "upset" because I can think for myself that illegal wars, drone strikes & tax dollars going to oppressors is against my interests, I have that right, inherently.

Are you wanting to rebel simply for the sake of rebellion? Because the feelings doing so gives you are better than the feelings watching a 50 inch HD TV and eating doritos gives you?

As opposed to doing so while acting as though they have superior morality like some people, if you define rebellion as showing interest, then yes. :)

Personally, there is no form of society in which people could truly be "free". Merely entering into a relationship with another person robs you of freedoms, it is necessary to do things one does not wish to do in order to survive in this world. If you're never going to be a politician, political leader, or multinational corporate CEO, why do the actions of such people have such bearing on your life?

Well, it's my personal opinion that those in the highest of these positions are abusing their power, & ultimately their actions do have bearings on everyone below them, my involvement is to simply stay informed, speak my mind, & consider all opinions.

I mean, if we're talking pragmatic considerations, we should consider any actions whether legal or illegal, said legality is decided upon by the very Government you are referring to, so if I decide what's legal, & they disagree, that's a conflict that involves both parties.

Regardless of differences, revolutions in the Middle east & now Europe are enough cause for concern whether I can make a difference or not, this community tends to be a good source of information, controversial & competitive or not, being certain it will never effect me is not something I do, I am never certain of anything.

I'll put it this way, I'm actually calmed by my uncertainty, couldn't explain why without walls of irrelevant text. My curiosity is what drives me, & although I usually keep any devils advocate arguments to myself, I'll say that perhaps participating in a revolution, & using the means as you describe them, perhaps this dedication is what brings them happiness. I think of myself as a Libertarian, so I can honestly say I do sympathise with the Patriot movements cause, despite the stigma, like I said, fuck the status quo.

"..I'm still concerned about those who focus themselves on [protecting the establishment] for the sake of [money & power], those who actively pursue and insist upon [spreading propaganda & using brute force] because they are seeking [to instill fear] as leverage against a perceived enemy."

sounds about right

Most of our lives are much more than HD TV and Doritos. I sincerely hope that your life isn't such. It's clean air not filled with soot, water not tainted with benzene and plastics, a beautiful sky not clouded with haze and pollution, wholesome foods grown from the earth, full of minerals--and not full of poisons. Are you yourself happy and fulfilled by HDTV and Doritos? I expect not. Then why expect others to be?

GMO foods are not any more dangerous than regular plants, neither are the majority of pharmaceutical drugs.

Not true. Lack of research does not mean it is good for you. GMO foods are invasive. The fact that don't let you choose whether you want GMO or not, shows that they already know what people would pick. Pharm drugs are usually more dangerous than we understand now.

Uranium is NATURAL. So is cyanide.

How likely are you to come across this in your daily life? I don't see any uranium around me or any cyanide.

At least half of wild berries in existence will KILL YOU.

No one is claiming that nature can't kill here. The fact is that you have the ability to choose not to use it. You don't get that choice with what they are giving you now.

My air is clean and my water isn't tainted

There is global warming, ozone layer depleting, smog increasing, and other unknown factors that seem to be increasing the cases of autism and depression. I wouldn't necessarily claim that my water and air is clean, just because you don't know enough about it.

If you lived in the desert, you'd come across uranium pretty easily....as for cyanide, I guess you've never seen an apple? The cores of apples contain cyanide.

In large enough amounts that are actually dangerous for you? Your arguments don't seem really that strong here. You claim nature is harmful but those claims are based on people creating these harmful things from nature, and not things naturally found as harmful in nature.

Hahahaha! I've worked in behavioral health all my life and the reason there are more cases of depression and autism is because up until about the past 20 years, almost everyone was hateful and adverse to psychiatric/psychological treatment.

If you work in that field and don't know this, then you need to update your knowledge base man. Here some links to help you out:

• Autism and Air Pollution: The Link Grows Stronger

• Study links autism with industrial food, environment

• Scientists warn of chemical-autism link

• Why are food allergies on the rise?

• Coming to America: Living in the U.S. Increases a Person’s Risk of Allergies

Also, global warming isn't a thing - its climate change and the government you think is conspiring to cause it is the source of laws trying to slow it down - we don't live in China. As for the ozone layer - that's 100% the fault of developing countries - CFCs, the cause of that, have been banned in all of Europe, the US, Canada and Mexico -- its the Chinese government and other stupid developing nations that aren't giving a fuck.

First of all... most of the things about global warming and effects of smog are highly debatable. Secondly, it is not 100% the fault of the developing countries - we had our share of destroying the planet and we didn't give a shit. Now they feel like its their turn, and we are all of sudden telling them not to do the same things we did... even though our economy highly benefited from it and that's what made us developed. So obviously they don't want to listen to us. It is our fault for not having studied it before we used it when we did in the past, and not all on them.

You're right, Americans are comfortable compared to the rest of the world, and we have opportunity to pursue happiness , however, word coming down the grape vine is that our leaders don't want things to stay that way. But then again, maybe concentration camps aren't such a bad idea. Will they put cable in there?

Your last sentence is completely fictitious - who are you and what's your angle? Do you know nothing of Russian or German history?

You said, "Everyone who appreciated what they had and didn't try to attack the government was left alone." This isn't true - but by your definition, you deem it true, you apparently believe that East Germans watching western media or questioning the wrongs of their government was considered "attacking the government?" Who do you think the "government" is comprised of? They are not all elite oligarchs as you seem to assume.

And you're trying to intuit that people who strive and want to make the world a better and more peaceful place deserve to be imprisoned. What the hell? How can you do it with a straight face? What makes you think you'll be part of the ruling class? The water-carriers never make it very long. I'd reconsider my position.

Your response is very accurate, and knowledgable. And you may be right about things, however, what is the deal with your original gripe? It seems you know your conspiracies inside and out. What's wrong with other folks getting up to snuff?

Because I am a human being, and I know that there is right and wrong in this universe, and that means I have a moral imperative to stand up against what I see as evil. The real question, is why do you not care?

" Is something about your life uncomfortable and miserable that you need to blame the government for your failings? What is it that makes you so concerned?"

Projecting much? I studied psychology at a UC, and to me it sounds like maybe you need to start asking yourself some questions, not reddit. PM me if you ever have any questions about this stuff.

You sound like a dangerous psychologist to talk to! Have you read these papers?

http://gawker.com/the-astounding-conspiracy-theories-of-wall-street-geniu-1561427624

By the way this is from wikipedia "Gorton holds a Bachelor's in Electrical Engineering from Yale University, a Master's in Electrical Engineering from Stanford University,[4] and an MBA from Harvard University"

Are we still all psychotic or experiencing PPD?

Are you being serious? They can catalog every thing a man did. Look up how they found out info and tried to get mlk2 to kill himself. What is stopping them from doing it now or crew in the future? It has even come out that Barack was u under survielance pre-election. What if they treated him like hoover did to candidates? Are you really so blind?

Edit: just read your last sent byence And realized I shouldn't think twice about you. I am a defendor of america and everyone knows me as such. Also, if you wanna know how conspiracies effect the every day person look up the LIBOR scandal and stop being stupid.

Does a bird in a cage that has food and water, still want its freedom?

We are like lab rats that get treats for doing its job. We are still owned by them. We live to make them more profit. We consume things that are dangerous to our health, because it brings them profit. We don't have any real choices anymore concerning real matters that effect our lives. We don't even have our privacy. You might be alright with living like that, but I still like my freedom a lot more. Many people have died because of their drugs, their wars for power/greed, etc. Don't their lives matter?

Who speaks for those that get killed overseas? In Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, etc? Can we be so selfish to not care about the innocent people and children who have no say?

Who speaks the countries where we have replaced leaders with terrorists? Our taxes fund all of their missions.

Human beings are meant to be free and are meant to create. Anyone who limits our potential and reduces us to machines that work to make them more money, is going to be our enemy.

Not really man. They attack off the grid people. They don't allow communal gardens. They don't allow owning land without paying property tax. You are part of the system, whether you want to be or not.

Their corporations pollute the land, air, and even our water. Their gmo products kill off natural plants and are invasive. You can hide for now, and live selfishly while others continue to live like this, but they will come for you one day.

You have the opportunity to become wealthy enough to pay someone to get you every tax loophole available to the point where you barely pay anything or are refunded everything that you do pay.

So your solution is to chase your way through the system, so that you can continue to cheat the system and the hard working people like the rich already do? Do you really think I would side that? I do have a heart you know and I am not a psychopath. Besides this "become rich so you can do things" is what makes the world how it is now. It is not working above the system, it is doing what everyone else is already trying to do.

Genetically modified organisms are just as natural as anything that isn't - we've been manipulating the genetics of plants since the dawn of agriculture through selective breeding.

Not true. There is only certain extent to which we can modify things naturally. GM allows you even greater freedom to switch things around, and we can't claim that the effects are going to be the same in the end. We don't have the research to make that claim.

Monsanto is not a good company, that doesn't mean GMOs are all bad; Genentech makes wonderful GMO foods that are actually BETTER for you than organics

I do hate monsanto but that's not my only thing against GM products. First, things have to be well researched before it is used publicly - that's just basic scientific approach to new found things. Secondly, people should be given the choice. Label it. It isn't ask for much. Why worry so much if it is good for you?

There is a difference between what is "good for you" and what is "good for profit". There is a big difference between the two. Even though there is a lot of common ground, that doesn't mean it is the same exact goal.

organic farming has a greater impact ecologically - it requires more land for the same food yield, and uses plant based pesticides that encourage the evolution of more virulent pests (i.e. excessive pyrethin use leading to pyrethin-resistant bugs).

GM pesticides cause other plants to die and prevent all sorts of animals from eating it. That to me is scarier than regular pesticides and their harm. Regular evolution along with pesticides is expected because that's how nature works. They adapt to pressures of the environment.

The proposed GMO labeling laws do not stipulate that GMO foods can have the company label for which company performed the modifications - and the organic food lobby wants it that way.

Yet, this is the first time I am hearing this argument. If instead of arguing against GMO labeling completely, they could have made it known that they just want to put in more detail than just a label - then that would be great. I have no issue against it. Make that known, instead of fighting against GMO labels completely. However, this doesn't seem like what they are arguing against publicly at all. So do you mind citing this claim of yours?

Also, organic farming, even ignoring pesticides has a greater ecologically impact - it destroys more wild habitats by requiring more land for lesser yields.

The ecologically impact of using old farming methods is not going to be anything beyond controllable. Secondly, there is enough yield to feed people and the idea of this "over populated" planet thing is not really based on facts.

It's frankly rather idiotic, the levels at which people ignore the fact that organic food producers are themselves linked to and operating with multinational corporations and running their own special interest lobby, just like Monsanto does.

Then fight that part. Make it known that you want to put more information in, rather than take all information out. People won't fight that. I find it hard to believe that since you are the only person who has argued that before.

some people are...apparently