Thanks for posting this. Stealing is normal for VT. Veterans Today also often republishes articles without the authors consent. This is shabby behaviour. Some of those plagiarized articles are quite good, but instead of posting articles from Veterans today, I recommend linking to the original source.

But much worse is that the editor in chief Gordon Duff is a known source for disinformation. In the past I gave him the benefit of the doubt. He seemed so credulous. I thought his gullibility might have been abused by somebody else who used him as front. This doubt is gone. Gordon Duff has exposed himself. His own words show that he is a liar:

Watch this video and hear it from his own mouth:

Gordon Duff Is a Disinformation Agent

Or read this fine blog post. While I don't necessarily agree with all of the author's conclusion, he makes it very clear, why Duff is not to be trusted.

Response to Gordon Duff, Kevin Barrett, Mike Harris and Jeff Rense’s Lies on ’40% False Information

What I want to know is why these guys always have terrible websites, like something out of 1994

"All of what I write is false. Because if I didn't, I'd be dead. Everything is in between the lines"

Zionist.

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• [/r/conspiratard] Veterans Today get caught manipulating a stole picture. R/conspiracy is not happy about that. "It means absolutely nothing."

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It goes on and on. Every comment in here.

Massive vote-gaming going on in this thread.

Report the bigoted hate-group raiding this thread to admins here:

• http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23reddit.com

Began after the cross-post, like always.

Coincidence, I'm sure. Like everything really.

Bigoted hate group?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T549VoLca_Q

I'm really starting to think that it was really you that stole and photoshopped their glorious banners in the background. Replacing them with borning milky windows. Totally looks fake bro.

^/§

VT has said something like 80% of their content is false/fiction, why anyone gives a shit about them or views them as a reliable source is beyond me.

People should research Gordon Duff

I've done a little digging from what I've learned, he's a retired veteran non-combatant who owns a small wine import/export business with his wife.

Captain obvious strikes again. "Gordon Duff" is a shill. The whole site is full of trolls. Remember that article he wrote about the Chinese war with the Aliens?

stolen

You have failed to provide any evidence that the photo was used without permission.

I hope we can all agree now that anything from that website cannot be trusted.

No, we can't agree. Downvoted.

Wow... this is just sad. Is this because of the Sandy Hook article?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/04/15/sandy-hook-elementary-school-closed-in-2008-a-stage-in-2012/

Or these:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01/07/top-ten-reasons-sandy-hook-was-an-elaborate-hoax/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/04/13/the-boston-marathon-bombing-one-year-later-a-detailed-look/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/04/15/game-over/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/04/16/mh370-cell/

No, we don't agree with you.

Seems like censorship is more important to you.

Voting is what creates consensus, not some guy saying " durrrr I hope we can all agree now that anything from that website cannot be trusted. durrrr"

Let people think for themselves.

You can't touch their actual material so you grasp straws? How is a photoshop proof that they lie on their articles? Care to cite one that's not true?

http://aattp.org/watch-fox-news-get-caught-lying-on-food-stamp-recipients-again/

https://www.bnp.org.uk/news/national/big-lie-daily-mail-and-bbc-caught-red-handed

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/23/washington-post-caught-lying-about-koch-bros

Google: "news agency" + caught lying. They all lie.

Pushing for censorship using the flimsiest argument (photoshop? really???) is the dumbest thing anyone's ever heard.

Where did I write that they lie in their articles?

"I hope we can all agree now that anything from that website cannot be trusted."

So we should just not trust their photoshop images. Ok!

You fail. This post fails. You're a failure and no one cares about your failed attempt at censorship. Utter failure. But please, keep trying! Maybe someday people will take some guy's word about a symbolic photo shopped image as the end-all be-all proof that a website cannot be trusted meanwhile their articles hold up without question. LOL

You may summon your troll squad to help you now. (yes, people know who you are around here)

where do I claim that they lie in their articles?

If they don't lie why shouldn't I trust "anything from that website"?

What does it mean to you that this website stole a picture, manipulated it and claims it shows their staff?

It means absolutely nothing.

No one cares about this ridiculous post.

why wouldn't they lie about many other things?

Because you can't prove they "lie" about anything else.

And then "I will ask the owner." You assumed they lie without even knowing if they're lying?

Did I mention how much of a failure this post is?

So should I trust that all the articles are true?

You have not been able to prove they are not.

I mean the owner of the picture obviously. Do you think that VT owns that picture?

I don't know and you don't either but you assumed without knowing and made a ridiculous claim.

Again, why do you claim that censorship is important for me?

Because your lame attempt at discrediting a source based on speculation is equally ridiculous.

Are you affiliated with Veterans Today?

At least they know what they're talking about.

How come your only ever posts are in this thread?

Deflecting.

Since all your posts are in this very thread, why do you claim to speak for this subreddit?

Because it's obvious this is a strawman argument against a site and people here know better. Better than you at least.

Whose sock puppet account is this?

Are you accusing me of something? You better have some proof. Er, you're not so good with that, nevermind.

Why should I trust their articles?

Because you have not given 1 example that doesn't hold up. I imagine you won't be able to provide one either.

Was that a "Yes" or "No"?

Until you can prove their articles are fabrications, I'd trust them.

You are obviously well versed with this subreddit yet your account is only 3 days old and you haven't posted anywhere but in this thread bla bla bla bla

Deflecting.

Why do you care so much about this topic?

Because advocating for censorship without as much as solid evidence of wrongdoing in "a forum for free thinking" is an abomination, just like this post.

You made a post without knowing all the facts. This is ridiculous.

Anything else?

What now?

Now you make a post with that article, not some ridiculous, unfounded assumption about a picture.

You post a claim about photoshop and then search for information if they are trustworthy or not? Way to keep up the standards around here.

Are you affiliated?

Irrelevant red herring. But no, I'm not.

What do you know about this photo that I don't?

You made a post without knowing if it was used with permission or not.

Anything else?

What else do you need?

If 60-70% are true, then the sub should decide on the validity of the article, not you saying it should all be discredited. All media lies.

Assume it was.

Your mistake was assuming anything.

Anything else?

Truth isn't determined by majority vote.

You want to take away people's right to choose and decide for themselves.

So now you admit that VT lies?

All media lies. What part of "all" is hard to understand?

Why then should anything on their site be trusted?

Based on your flawed logic, no site ever can be trusted. They way you're attacking VT and not any other site shows you have ulterior motives.

What do you think is the reason for VT manipulating a photo and claiming it shows its "Editorial Staff"?

Symbolic picture to illustrate a point.

Why do you think that this fact is not important for the trustworthiness of this site?

Because it's irrelevant to the content of their articles.

Anything else?

Liar. I never advocated for VT to be banned.

Good. It won't be.

I take this as a Yes.

Just like all media. But VT is especially emotionally troubling to you. I wonder why...

Which other news site posts manipulated pictures of their "staff" and admits to faking 30% of its articles?

Manipulating pictures on their "About" page can hardly be said to discredit their articles, which you have failed to do so.

What point?

That you don't know what a point is.

If they lie about one thing, why not about another?

Because you cannot prove anything else as being false.

Anything else?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/the-month-that-et-came-to-dc/2012/07/20/gJQAZp2ayW_story.html

http://nypost.com/2010/10/14/mystery-objects-over-chelsea-leave-city-agape/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/ufo/

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/ufo-over-indian-ocean-spacex-falcon-9-rocket-sparks-sightings-f4B11297922

http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/ufo.htm

http://www.foxnews.com/topics/ufo.htm

http://www.myfoxny.com/story/20340537/ufo-spoted-over-brooklyn

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-22365368

http://www.wlox.com/story/25156516/ufo-mysterious-floating-light-caught-on-camera-in-cumbest-bluff

CNN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFhwRmEui6w

Well, there goes /r/conspiracy. No one's actively discrediting these sources. I wonder why.

UFO's? The straw grasping is really getting desperate. What's next? Reptillians?

Anything else?

Therefore demonstrating again that Veterans Today is spreading disinformation.

Just like all the sources I cited. But only yours is being discredited... hmm... Show me those wacky reptillians now!

You might want to tell the horde to hurry up, you're almost looking like you have legitimate upvotes.

Anything else?

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Oh heaven. That was actually funny. You have no idea what that means.

Deflecting.

Why? Because you say so? Who do you think you are exactly?

Deflecting.

That doesn't make any sense in that context. Are you all right? Your posts are becoming more and more incoherent.

Deflecting.

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I don't need /r/conspiratard to help me, so yes, I won.

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unless validated by a trustworthy source.

Which won't happen if anyone takes your misguided advice about "agree now that anything from that website cannot be trusted."

This is advocating censorship.

If I told you that 40% of everything is a lie would you believe anything I said that could not be independently verified?

I would fact check the claim, not the source. You seem to have it backwards, just like all your arguments so far.

Or do you expect me to point out a specific faked article?

Yes I do.

If I do, what will you do?

Get your credibility up from 0 to 1%.

Anything else?

Giving up so soon?

Make a post about BBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, Fox, Al-Jazeera, NY Post, Washington Post and Huffington Post about how they're spreading disinfo about UFO's.

Go for it. At least make it look like you're not biased.

Why are you trying to order me what I can and cannot comment on?

"I hope we can all agree now that anything from that website cannot be trusted."

Why are you trying to create a false consensus based on unconfirmed information for the purpose of discrediting a source?

Do you know any other news site who posts manipulated photos claiming it shows their Editorial Board?

You don't know if that's their board. You have nothing to prove it is or isn't. You're assuming based on bias.

Why do you want to censor me?

Why do you want to censor only 1 source?

I posted proof in my opening comment.

Unconfirmed. Your definition of proof needs a revision.

I'm really starting to get concerned about you. Do you act that irrationally often?

Deflecting, strawman, red herring.

Are you going for a record?

Anything else?

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/23gish/30_to_40_of_veterans_todays_content_is_made_up_by/

Tell the horde to get on that. It's looking pretty sad, just like this one.

This post fails.

You've got that part right..

Google: "news agency" + caught lying. They all lie.

And whenever it's a mainstream source, the people here are absolutely outraged.

When it's an "alternative" source that validates your beliefs, as with this one, nobody cares. In fact, you're just defending it all the more. Double standard much?