Thoughts on the Moncton shooting?

0  2014-06-05 by yomassa

39 comments

Everything is a conspiracy now?

That is the point.

So many people now don't know what to believe and think everything is a hoax or false flag now.

Get a grip people.

use logic.

Some of you are trying to find things where there aren't anything.

Not everything is a conspiracy

Hey bud,

You're on /r/conspiracy, which is a subreddit about conspiracies.

So yes, while you're here, everything is a conspiracy.

This is similar to the /r/mylittlepony sub where everything is about my little pony, or the Xbox sub where everything is about Xbox.

This is how reddit works.

Agreed that every event of significance or controversy will often at the least have potential to be of a conspiratorial

When an event like this initially emerges, obvious red flags aside, it never hurts for one to ask questions and to speculate, without jumping to any firm conclusions based on said speculation immediately.

And when you have a society managed by sociopathic leaders and LEOs, and when TPTB often pull their strings in ways that can be unexpected to say the least in order to further their own agendas, it is generally best not to take anything you hear on the corporate-government media, Internet nor independent media as gospel or at face value until you can hear all sides of the controversy, review all the evidence and form your own conclusions.

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No racial slurs please.

Yet another 'mass shooting' for the press to yak about.

the facebook page sounds bullshit to me, the video from someone's living room? it sounds off.

something might have happened, or was supposed to happen, but I'm sure we're being lied to for some reason. it reminds me of the 'friendly dog guy' also from NB who was a prison guard with Marfans, sent to Toronto to shoot up the beaches. He backed out and the police made up several different stories about the incident.. right before the election.

shortly before another election, the streets of Toronto were shot up on boxing day.

as you know the mayor of Toronto is connected to gun running drug gangs.

you connect the dots.

you gotta love when a text post discussing conspiracy theories gets downvoted on /r/conspiracy..

as you know the mayor of Toronto is connected to gun running drug gangs.

What connection are you trying to draw here? Moncton is a world away from Toronto. What would Ford have to do with a random shooting out there?

putting out the possibility he was supposed to be on another 'mission' that was fucked up. I always assume they will fuck up anything that can be (murphy's law)

Wow; there's video of the event, and you still think it's bullshit? What a joke.

I said it sounds off. Can't you read? What's a joke?

How does it sound "off" ? Look at the quality of the video - you're not going to get 720p and HD audio with that cellphone camera..

the gunshot sounded like a book hitting the floor, I listened twice. I'm an audio expert.

Are you suggesting that the government faked a video of a shooting, but didn't use actual gunshots for the audio?

Do you realize how unbelievably stupid that is?

The government owns plenty of guns and shooting ranges. Why on earth would they try to artificially replicate the sound of gunshots instead of recording some real gunshots? Hell, they could just go on YouTube and take an audio snippet from any number of videos that include real guns being fired.

I'm an audio expert

Sure you are.

it's not a gunshot, there's no doppler effect. the object that made the sound was moving at a relatively low velocity. keep denying, ridiculing, discrediting, whatever.. we're used to that kind of harassment here.

Just answer me this: For what conceivable reason would the government use fake gunshot audio instead of using readily available audio of real gunshots?

They could record gunshot audio at any number of military/police shooting ranges. Or they could take snippets of audio from any of the thousands of videos on the internet of real guns being fired (pretty much any FPSRussia video or hunting video).

THE SCENE: Two Mounties are together in a room. Mountie #1 is repeatedly clapping 2 wooden blocks together while Mountie #2 hovers nearby with a boom mic.

MOUNTIE #1: Are the bosses sure that these will sound like gunshots?

MOUNTIE #2: C'mon man. You know better than to ask questions like that.

MOUNTIE #1: I'm just saying, I have an actual gun right here on my belt. We can just go out to the shooting range and record the real thing.

MOUNTIE #2: Look man, I'm sure they have their reaso...(interrupted by the door opening)

Mounties #3-6 enter the room holding slide whistles

MOUNTIE #3: Hey guys, we're here to record the fake police/ambulance sirens.

MOUNTIE #1: facepalming Fucking Christ....

would the government use fake gunshot audio

I only said that I thought it sounded more like a book hitting the floor in my professional opinion. First lets look at the doppler characteristics of the sounds, and then we can draw conclusions as to what is impossible. don't be impatient with ambiguity.

Gun shots are routinely confused with doors slamming shut, heavy objects dropping on the floor, or firecrackers.

If you think it sounds like a book dropped on the floor, you could actually be right, because that's more or less what a gun shot sounds. Especially when recorded with shitty equipment, like a smartphone, and potentially encoded/compressed.

we can know for sure in this case. that's where forensic audiology comes in.

Well, if you think it's such a easy thing to verify, what don't you do it? Aren't you a audio expert? Aren't you the one coming up out of nowhere with this claim?

Here's an article on the topic: http://thesoftanonymous.com/2011/10/30/gunshot-forensics-whats-in-a-bang/

I like this part:

So, a typical sound wave for a single gunshot looks like this: [...] In practice, of course, a real-life gunshot recording will never be so perfectly formed. Amateur audio recordings are usually poor quality, with interference from voices, screams and echoes. Furthermore, the sound of the gunshot will depend on the position of the recorder relative to the shooter.

Come back with your results when you're done.

You are all ready with your pre-debunk before any analysis. Talk about confirmation bias.

I'm not talking about a perfect gunshot recording, I'm talking about the doppler effect. Do you know what it is?

Are you saying it's impossible to determine whether it is a gunshot? But it's ok to assume it is?

You should stop now, thanks.

stop what? and why should I?

You're saying that the gun shots aren't real, but instead are people dropping books to make it sound similar? What else do you believe took place? What is your version of the events? Please, do tell.

lets deal with the gunshot. pull up the audio profile. show me the doppler effect that proves it's traveling at a high rate of speed. you can't.

It's a cellphone video, taken from inside a house - of course the audio isn't going to be perfect! What kind of unreal expectations do you have? Do you do this to try and prove your point? How disrespectful. Three RCMP members are dead, and you're trying to say they didn't die? What's your version of the events. You seem to think you know.

edit: I have reviewed /u/shmegegy 's post history - he started this routine last night when the events started to unfold. He doesn't appear to think this is a real event.

You're trying to find a conspiracy in something which clearly isn't - you're connecting dots that don't even exist. It's frightening, really; what are you getting at?

I'm keeping all my options open. You seem to be the one forcing conclusions

That fucking link is gold man!

I'm skeptical. We'll see what comes of it. A lot of shootings lately and many unanswered questions.

You're allowed to request your home be blurred; they did it so much in Germany that street view ended up disappearing for that country.

Bullshit!

Go check Berlin you liar

Where do you get this shit from?

go to google maps and you can see the street view.

so no, germany has not outlawed street view

It's not street view - it's "photo spheres" - try to navigate up or down a road; you can't do it. Hold the peg man, and look at the map - the countries bordering Germany turn blue, showing areas of coverage. Germany itself has almost no blue, meaning No streetview coverage.

Here's an example of the blurring effect, seen in a tiny part of Germany that does allow street view - https://www.google.com/maps/@51.273834,12.483197,3a,75y,141.43h,75.64t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s71BnUb7yban74WsDOzNsaw!2e0!6m1!1e1