I don't think people are quite understanding what is going on, especially the people who are desperately trying to defend him in the link you provide.

Unidan gamed reddit. He used every trick in the book to fool everyone and since the people on this site are literally retarded, it was not hard. If I wanted to screw people on this site and I had a whole system worked out with multiple computers and devices around me, I could downvote any competitor to -5 or -10 within seconds and then the idiot masses would take it from there because they will always look for something wrong in the comment if it is already that low. And they will find it, because everything exists in their own mind.

This is basic human psychology.

People treated Unidan like he was some kind of god when the reality is that he most likely just started out as a bored guy at work, or unemployed, and he could google or access a scientific database so he could copy and paste at will and change it just enough to put it into the "voice" he was going for. His "persona" was very well-crafted and when you add that to his vote manipulation system and strategy to extinguish competitors or naysayers early on, of course the people on the site began to worship him. And he realized it and then went straight for the money shot.

I didn't even give two shits about any of this. But when I did notice Unidan was when he started "sponsoring" AMA's and using the masses new religion -science- as a platform to give other people attention.

I could have told you back then that he was getting paid to do that. He was not doing it out of the goodness of his heart, or for science, or for learning, or whatever other bullshit he fabricated to keep the lemmings following him. He was doing it for straight cash.

People have such a shitty grip on reality that they do not even see these things for what they are. He built an industry around his name and then began to reap the harvest. People from all around the country would pay top dollar to have someone who could promise them millions of views on command and the potential to add links to funding their research or their website, or any number of things.

Reddit is like a fucking ray gun, but it shoots people and money. A few people have been smart enough to figure out its buttons and had the drive to gain a hold of the weapon. You point reddit at something, and you can make all sorts of things happen. I made a posts using my other account about somethin which I will not get into, it went slightly viral for one day, and I got 5000 visitors to a link I threw up there. And they kept coming for weeks afterwards.

And that was nothing, a handful of sand compared to what Unidan could accomplish, he got himself a fucking shovel and could shovel that shit all day.

He probably gave presentations and had charts showing exactly what he could do for the highest bidder. He could promise them the numbers and then he could deliver. I saw it happen multiple times.

"Hi, its me Unidan with Professor Givin Me-money from Blah Blah Institute here to talk about something something science."

The same thing happens all the time. Unidan had to do it the hard way. People from Hollywood merely have to have good agents and they can pump tens of thousands out of this website:

"Hey Cancer Foundation, its me Will Ferrel, I can promise you X amount of money for your cause, how much are going to pay me to be your spokesperson. My agent has a great idea about a drum-off."

Etc, etc...

Its funny watching it and knowing you are in the small minority who actually gets it.

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Gee, look at the link I found today:

Unidan gives speech on raising money for science.

I hope you know that I actually dislike being right about this. But this is simple logic.

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His post was good. Thought provoking, and your 2 pence are just more negative bullshit to sound above him.

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Why would you assume that I thought he wasn't a real person?

Is that really what you took from my comment?

WHOOSH

Wait, so you thought he would have horns of his head to do this? Jeez son.

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I'll upvote you for the great insight, but Unidan is very easily verifably a real person with real credentials.

Did I ever say he wasn't?

You very strongly implied it.

he most likely just started out as a bored guy at work, or unemployed, and he could google or access a scientific database so he could copy and paste at will and change it just enough to put it into the "voice" he was going for.

Phrases like "unemployed" and "copy and paste" really do make it sound like you're trying to bring his academic credibility into dispute.

he most likely just started out as a bored guy at work

Unidan giving speech

10:14

"That's where I sort of came in and turned my procrastination on other online sites into something that was interesting....Um, so if anyone's been on reddit."

..............

Gee, I had never even heard of this video and still called it exactly how it is. So maybe people like you should stop being so ego-driven for once and just accept that other people can draw the right conclusions without having to rely on your flawed analysis.

People can draw the right conclusions about what without what analysis?

Like, even ignoring the fact that procrastinating online is in no way the same thing as copy+pasting from a database, I have no idea what you're trying to get at here.

Why are you trying so hard to miss the point?

I was addressing my first assumption:

he most likely just started out as a bored guy at work

And then showing Unidan's own fucking words to back that up.

and this:

he could google or access a scientific database so he could copy and paste at will and change it just enough to put it into the "voice" he was going for.

This isn't even an assumption, this is straight up logic. Do you really believe he was just pulling out extremely detailed scientific information on thousands of topics from his head? Without a resource?

Get a clue.

Cool, still have no clue what analysis I made that I allegedly thought people needed to rely on to draw the correct conclusion, but you have at least explained your core point.

Your posts leave me very torn, on the one hand you're basically right, on the other hand your tone and attitude kind of stink.

You're talking to two different people, so be aware our statements our not from the same source.

I merely stated that Unidan has verifiable credentials, so even if everything you said was true he's still not pulling the wool over people's eyes in regard to being qualified to provide the information he gives.

In actuality, I've seen him comment before that he looks up the majority of the terms and species, as well as other info, and his educational background merely points him in the correct place to be getting that info from.

So he copies and pastes? It sounds like you are saying he copies and pastes and changes just enough to have a unique voice.

Weird.

Yes, although it's possible you did not intend for the statement to strictly imply to Unidan. Here is the comment that I may have read in a way other than you intended it:

People treated Unidan like he was some kind of god when the reality is that he most likely just started out as a bored guy at work, or unemployed, and he could google or access a scientific database so he could copy and paste at will and change it just enough to put it into the "voice" he was going for.

You use Unidan's name with past tense.

Bet a penny Unidan is here now in the comments with a clean IP/username?

I wound't stoop to something like that. I made my bed, I understand even if what I did was small, I need to own up to it. It's not about gaming the system, not really, the ability to earn is so completely secondary to being a member of the community. You guys have got it all wrong.

/r/Uniban

How dare you give us an explanation... All we really want to hear about is Rampart.

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I could have told you back then that he was getting paid to do that. He was not doing it out of the goodness of his heart, or for science, or for learning, or whatever other bullshit he fabricated to keep the lemmings following him. He was doing it for straight cash.

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You can't create accounts through Tor, and votes sent using Tor are handled differently, i.e. more easily discounted by reddit. Reddit also has a lot of protections against vote cheating - it's not as easy as logging in to another account and seconds later upvoting your own comment - reddit will ignore that vote.

This is in /r/conspiracy for what reason?

Obviously it's a massive conspiracy and should be discussed here, not in /r/Subredditdrama, or here.

Admins said why he was banned and Unidan confirmed it.

Why would any speculation be necessary?

Also it's not like he was a mere 'power user', didn't he have entire book deals and potential collaborative things connected to his reddit ident?

Is this sacrificing one of their own? Why isn't shitty_watercolour banned for massive gamification of reddit for personal gain?

There is points of interest here....

I admit it's not of global significance but there's no reason this sub should shy away from it - this sub has been forefront of badgering subs/mods/admins when they act out and it's almost our duty to investigate.

I admit this is more SRD fodder than conspiracy, but those dudes just sit back with popcorn and attack the supposed 'bad guy' with little question of the 'whys?','what's going on here's?' or 'Is he really the bad guy or is something else afoot?' questions.

Not followed the story enough for an opinion, but YES this is conspiracy appropriate.

I suspect it's because the 'pro-unidan brigade' is less nebulous and also less an artifact of genuine fucked up social culture than the 'anti-conspiracy' brigade is.

Unidan is a tiny target, it's extremely focussed. Whereas plenty people have reason to deride and attempt to humiliate /r/conspiracy

because a) we represent a collective threat to many systems, ideals and beliefs

and b) a good 50% of our output is actually fucking mental.

I'm not deriding the mental output because I find it extremely interesting and many of the bits I dont even follow I find positive and interesting.

That said, many people read a single conspiracy it worries them, then they look it up and see it conflated with moon bases and all sorts of other things and it justifies their derision.

off-topic though....

I think your summary is probably nail on the head.

You get reddit big, you play ball or you get bamz0red. Be interested to speak candidly with unidan after this acrimonious (or not - if af other users have said, he confirmed the allegations) parting of ways.

So you're lying right now?!

That's a naive and dangerous frame of mind.

So no one lies? No one bends the truth? If you think authorities (admins, cops, anything) are always right, that'll bite you eventually as well. Speculation is one of the reasons humans are still around

Dicto Simpliciter. So by your extrapolation nobody is capable of or willing to tell the truth, since you have a couple of nonspecific examples of cover ups.

No one has suggested a reasonable motive for there to be any conspiracy behind Unidan's ban. Without motive, speculation is retarded.

I really don't follow your comment. I'm not just making generalizations, I was using those to parallel yours because both are absurd.

I commented on the fact that you just accepted what the admins and Unidan posted as truth. You shouldn't do something like that, there's always a chance something is NOT the truth. Everything is open to speculation. Unidan has obviously lied about a lot of things, you shouldn't trust what he says just on that fact.

Hell, if you want an example: Maybe Unidan was doing something even worse and the admins just found out a small part. Of course he'd confirm that small part, you sacrifice that little bit to try and retain "honesty." He later confirmed actively downvoting opposing opinions ONLY AFTER someone had pointed it out. He's only admitting whatever they find out about him. He's disingenuous and a con. It's classic: only admit to what they can prove you did

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I am NOT saying they're lying, I'm saying they COULD BE lying, and you shouldn't just believe what they say.

I don't know if they're lying or telling the truth, and neither do you.

No evidence is necessary to say: Unidan could be lying, or covering up worse information. You really shouldn't just say "well Unidan agreed with the allegations so that must be all there is, no speculation needed." It's naive.

And if you want motives for Unidan to lie? Aside from trying to save face, there's monetary connections to his reddit name, maybe he did something worse and is playing along with his lower punishment, etc There's just so many. He's a con and manipulator, why would you take what he says as the truth?

tl;dr: Again, not stating anyone is lying. He confesses to whatever they can prove he does. He literally admitted to using the accounts for a few minor things, trying to downplay everything, and then later admitted to doing even worse things with them only after someone called him out on it, .

Did you believe him the first time?

What I understand as your perspective: "Well he admitted to it so that must be the extent of it, no speculation needed."

"Well shit now that they caught him doing worse things, he admitted to that too."

My perspective: why did he try to downplay everything in the first admission? Perhaps since he so blatantly tried to dodge admitting things, I should be sure to speculate more about the truth of his posts."

Everyone hates you.You are a pizza burn on the world's mouth.

You are the opposite of batman.

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Bot fight?

They can watch out for people, but they don't know what love is.

I'll show them what love means. Open up that USB!

Because what Unidan did on reddit is the definition of conspiracy.

Unidan gamed reddit, effectively making thousands of other people into unknowing participants in his conspiracy.

Just look at the link OP provided, even given what they know, most of them are too stupid to stop worshipping him or making excuses for him.

And once he had all of reddit at his fingers, he surely used that power for monetary gain. Can I prove the last part, no. Can I prove Bush and Cheney intentionally lied to gain support for Iraq, also no,

It is my assessment of what I know about human nature and the facts that were provided.

Actually, it's not. Maybe you should review the definition. Both the literal and legal definitions require two or more people.

It is my opinion that Unidan successfully fooled thousands of people on reddit into blindly following him.

He then used this support to trick other people into paying him to sponsor AMA's and various other endorsements.

In a sense, reddit was his partner in crime, even though they were too stupid to realize it.

So he originally lied, gained an unwitting accomplice, and then put his conspiracy into motion. Because without reddit backing him up, he had nothing.

Maybe this isn't the textbook definition of conspiracy. But I believe OP knew enough about this subreddit and the open-mindedness of many people here, so he posted it.

And I am glad he did. I never would have heard about it otherwise. Not to mention it becomes one more rung in the ladder of corruption that this site can spawn.

What I don't understand however, is people who go through this subreddit just to post things like "Why is this a conspiracy?" which you see in every other thread.

Because when I am not particularly interested in a post, I just move on and find one I am interested in. I don't hang around just to sidetrack the conversation.

"Why is this a conspiracy?" which you see in every other thread.

This reddit would be more interesting without the noise of this kind of post. That's why I call it out.

Sometimes things are a simple as they seem. Guy gets reddit-famous. Guy uses fame to promote his own interests. Guy gets banned for breaking the rules.

Because when I am not particularly interested in a post, I just move on and find one I am interested in. I don't hang around just to sidetrack the conversation.

I suppose you're a better person than I am, by your definition.

Because it's not a conspiracy. Unidan broke the rules and got banned. Admins explained why, and he confirmed their explanations and apologized.

There is nothing left unexplained.

And I'd like to point out that you are downvoting me even though you are engaged in discussion with me. Shall I cite redditquette for you?

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how didn't the admins know 'til now?

Well he seems pretty narcissistic and how much attention is he getting from this? He is getting more attention now than he got when he was popular and his only punishment is having to create a new account with the same name. I wouldn't be surprised if he 'slipped up' on purpose and let the admins catch him.

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Nice contribution, up-voted.

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Interesting.

If it was IP based though, and if he is - as I understand - part of an academic institution, wouldn't it be hard to substantiate 'shill army' from genuine local following?

Not defending the bloke. AFAIK he just liked biology.

Potentially a masterclass in reddit gamification though.

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If I recall correctly Unidan admitted to using alt accounts on another post about his ban in /r/subredditdrama and tried to make up some bullshit excuse for his actions (something about "hiding misinformation" when really he was just up voting his posts and downvoting the people who disagreed with him).

Reminds me of digg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2h3X9dQifc