r/conspiracy: Tekmira Pharmaceuticals shares skyrocket two months before Ebola outbreak discovered.

Tekmira Pharmaceuticals shares skyrocket two months before Ebola outbreak discovered.

52 2014-09-30 by demonspawn79

So with today's news of an Ebola case discovered in Texas, I decided to do a little research. Tekmira, the company trying to get it's Ebola vaccine approved, had a massive spike in shares earlier this year, before the Ebola outbreak in Africa was even reported. Have a look at these share prices and let me know what you think.

"As of 2014, an epidemic of the Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) is ongoing in West Africa. The epidemic was discovered in March 2014, but was later determined to have started in Guinea in December 2013."

"On 19 March, the Guinean Ministry of Health acknowledged a local outbreak of an undetermined viral hemorrhagic fever that had sickened at least 35 people and killed 23."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_epidemic_in_West_Africa

Tekmira shares peaked on March 7, 12 days before Guinean authorities acknowledged the outbreak.

23 comments

4 moonpurr 2014-09-30

Don't forget that Monsanto has given 1.5 million in July to Tekmira.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tekmira-receives-1-5-million-230000330.html

-1 TheRehabKid 2014-09-30

They gave them $14 million in January, what's your point? Monsanto has nothing to do with Ebola.

2 dhs2020 2014-09-30

26.61

Change

+5.47 +25.88%

Volume

1.40m

Sep 30, 2014, 5:28 p.m.

Real time quotes

Today's close

$ 21.14

Change

+0.46 +2.22%

2 JalapenoPeni5 2014-09-30

Disaster Capitalism?

2 konspirate 2014-09-30

Please watch the British series "Utopia". It deals with overpopulation, pandemics and massive vaccines campaigns by the "Network".

The logo of Pergus Holdings, (the Monsanto of Utopia) is essentially the same logo as Tekmira. A sickle in a circle. Monsanto recently bought an interest in Tekmira.

http://biotechnologyfocus.ca/tekmira-reorganizes-management-team/

http://comicsbulletin.com/main/sites/default/files/shot/images/1302/UtopiaLogo.png

1 [deleted] 2014-09-30

Finished in the after hours trade at 27.90

1 danxmason 2014-09-30

Pretty sure this was the plot to mission impossible 2.

Edit: Yes it is the plot to MI2. " the Chimera virus has a 20-hour dormant period before it causes death... Bellerophon can only save the victim if used within the 20-hour window."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission:_Impossible_II

1 ModsRCorrupt 2014-09-30

If it was another company that was invested in, that'd be the one you'd be talking about now.

3 demonspawn79 2014-09-30

The name of the company doesn't matter, what matters is why anyone would invest in a small pharma company like that. Either they knew about the Ebola threat before it was announced, or something much more sinister.

3 ModsRCorrupt 2014-09-30

they knew about the Ebola threat before it was announced

I should hope so! There are people that monitor this stuff as their job! If they find out at the same rate as the rest of us, we'd be screwed!

1 moonpurr 2014-09-30

Don't forget the DOD is also funding the Tekmira project for Ebola medications.

http://www.montalvoreport.com/content/department-defense-monsanto-funding-anti-ebola-drug

1 eyesareitchy 2014-09-30

I don't think its even a little unlikely that a country experiencing an outbreak of some undetermined viral hemorrhagic fever would contact a company selling vaccines for viral hemorrhaghic fevers.

Dinners are eaten and hands are shaken and a couple nights later the right people know that there might potentially be demand for Tekmira's product. Investments are made.

And a couple weeks later once Guinea has gotten its shit together enough to present to the world...authorities acknowledge the outbreak.

Thats my stab at a non-conspiracy explanation. I don't think its unreasonable.

4 hcoguybrush 2014-09-30

Except you just described a conspiracy

0 TheRehabKid 2014-09-30

How so?

He just explained a series of events that most likely happened without any shadiness whatsoever.

If there was a perceived outbreak occurring or about to occur, a small company would need investors to be able to make enough medicine. Smart investors would seize on the opportunity. You can say it's deplorable for investors to want to make money off the medicine...but that's not a conspiracy, that's just greed. It's also just an assumption that the people investing are doing it solely for the money.

2 demonspawn79 2014-09-30

There have been several Ebola outbreaks since it was first discovered in 1976. All previous outbreaks were minor and effectively contained. There was no reason to think this most recent outbreak would have been any different.
As you can see by the chart, Tekmira's share price started rising in January before anyone had any idea there was an Ebola outbreak. Why is this?
Ebola is classed as a biological warfare agent by the CDC. Merck Pharmaceuticals, the same company that kills teenage girls in doctors offices, was contracted to develop biological weapons by the US military after WWII. They had labs in Zaire, now know as the DRC, the same country where Ebola was first discovered. In 1975 the US ratified the Biological Weapons Convention, one year before the first outbreak of Ebola.

1 TheRehabKid 2014-09-30

There's no reason to think a major outbreak could occur due to a violent, contagious virus? I would hope that they would always prepare for the worst even if previous outbreaks were contained. They 'what if' factor is too dangerous to assume a major outbreak wouldn't happen.
Tekmira started it's first human trial for it's anti-Ebola therapeutic TKM-Ebola in January. They also signed a deal with Monsanto giving Monsanto the ability to use their delivery technology for agricultural applications in January, and got a $14 million paycheck from Monsanto for it in January. Granted, I know how much this sub hates Monsanto, so you guys can throw your conspiracy theories at that pretty easily...but it has nothing to do with the Ebola outbreak.
Still researching your third point.

2 demonspawn79 2014-09-30

Ebola is a nasty virus but it's very easy to control. Before this year Ebola killed 431 people in 1976, 254 people in 1996, 224 people in 2000, 128 people in 2003, 224 people in 2007 and 50 people in 2012.

Simply put, Ebola is the new SARS or H5N1. Remember the media shitstorm that had everyone terrified? And how many people actually died from those two? 775 for SARS and 375 for H5N1.

1 TheRehabKid 2014-09-30

I'm not saying it isn't easy to control, I'm saying it's dangerous to assume you can control it every time and I would rather them be prepared for a massive outbreak and there not be one, than be under prepared and have millions die.

2 demonspawn79 2014-09-30

Every single outbreak has been successfully controlled, even the first one in 1976. So why wasn't it controlled in 2014? Maybe because Big Pharma has a vaccine now. They can let it get out of hand, terrorize the public into a frenzy then make massive profits while appearing to be the saviors of humanity. "Bird flu" terrorized the world and now everyone gets flu shots every year.

It's not a stretch to assume Ebola is a manufactured virus, one of many, to be released when profits start to dip.

1 demonspawn79 2014-09-30

Here's a shitty video of a top Merck vaccine researcher saying he accidentally imported AIDs into the US. Skip to 0:20 to avoid the stupid intro. There are some really bad edits but I can't find the original film anywhere at the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSc8mJtem0k

1 autopornbot 2014-09-30

Why do the interviewers find AIDS and Cancer viruses being found in vaccines so funny? They laugh like it's the absolute most hilarious thing they've ever heard.

Scary shit. I don't think that he admitted to introducing AIDS to the US - I think he was just saying that those monkeys could likely have been HIV positive since they came from West Africa around that time, and they didn't know about HIV/AIDS then. They were test monkeys - they would be well guarded from spreading any kind of infection to people or even other lab animals.

I think he was pointing out some irony - that those monkeys could have had the AIDS virus in them, and he brought them here. But not that AIDS spread from them.

His point is more or less valid - at that time they weren't aware of the dangers of undetectable viruses, and he was pointing out what a disaster it could have become. But I don't think what he said added up to conspiracy - just the equivalent of 19th century doctors spreading infection because they didn't know to wash their hands.

But it certainly raises some scary points. These viruses were in vaccines, and could have spread through vaccinations and vaccination trials. I just don't think that he said that's how AIDS came about in humans.

1 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-09-30

Reminds me of the pre-9/11 trading.

Someone(s) had foreknowledge.

1 achromatik 2014-09-30

Not to mention the avg volume of shares is 4.2m out of 22.2m outstanding shares. 5 people hold all of the stock pretty much... and they are about to make hundreds of millions

1 autopornbot 2014-09-30

Why do the interviewers find AIDS and Cancer viruses being found in vaccines so funny? They laugh like it's the absolute most hilarious thing they've ever heard.

I think he was pointing out some irony - that those monkeys could have had the AIDS virus in them, and he brought them here. But not that AIDS spread from them.