Congratulations, you finally discovered the average age of Redditors is 17.

I thought it was slightly higher? Maybe that's the age in maturity sense. All I know is I doubt any of the people calling for the execution of this cop would put a gun to the back of his head and pull the trigger.

Hey!! I'm 43 and I'm quite mature for my age

I'm 49, and babytalk to my cats!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCZxqj2IsAs&t=7s

I'm 28 and a man-child. Toys-R-Us kid 4 lyfe!

Hey, I'm 13

Wanna make a bad decision

Hi I'm twelve and what is this?

Please stay, there are more people like you here than you realise and without you it will only get worse. I've found this sub has got dramatically worse over the last 6 months too.

I'm looking for another sub that has conspiracies but then discussion about it. Once person here brought up a conspiracy that cops are trained to kill dogs to test the public. That's a conspiracy, that warrants discussion. Instead all I see is, "save a dog, shoot a cop." I bet none of those people would actually shoot the cop if they were handed him bound and a loaded pistol. It's easy to act tough on the internet. Sorry for the venting

There's a sub called conspiracyv2. Invite only, they go thru your comments to make sure you're not a shill or troll.

It's good but not enough user base and activity. Worth a look imo.

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Message the mods. When I found out about it, that's what I did. They are trying to grow, but the acceptance percent is low. Trying to filter out the junk is TOUGH. Obviously you see why, look what /r/conspiracy has become...

Message the mods

how?

http://www.reddit.com/message/compose/

in the "To" field, put the subreddit you want to message (i.e. To: /r/SubName)

Done. Thanks /u/yuckpants!

Good luck. I'd like to see some more activity from that sub. Hopefully you'll be a good fit.

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Perhaps switch to this place?

There are subreddits such as /r/endlesswar and /r/propaganda

Where do I sign up? I dream about that shit.

If you're looking for serious discussions, reddit is the last place I would be.

Also, aren't there a bunch of trolls on this sub. People who say wacky stuff to make us all look bad?

Those are just the new world order trying to discredit us.

Brain drain is why this happened. Today, the sub become one step closer to a Guinness record for "group think". Gotta be near 100% now.

I would agree. I used to have a really active account and I was very active in this sub about a year ago. I made the front page from here a couple time actually. Shortly after that I decided I was spending too much time on the internet in general and a big part of me taking care of that was deleting my reddit account. I just recently started coming back to reddit occasionally. The change I've noticed in this place since then is pretty drastic. No good discussion and tons of group think. This is less conspiracy and more general corruption discussion.

Higher? I thought it was mainly bored 14 year olds. At least it often seems that way. Sadly.

It's just a bunch of people feeling brave and saying big things while hiding behind a computer screen. Those types of comments have been really pissing me off as well. Yes the whole situation was very messed up, but as you said, how is calling for his torture and execution any better? They are then deserving of what they require of him. It's such a stupid concept.

its not 17 year olds, its everybody across all ages who call for the torture of people like cavemen.

shills really only comment on the post that this subs 250,000 users will see

everyday theres one post with hundreds of comments and theyre not from regulars

the reason you see them say shit like that is because theyre trying to make us look bad, and that r/conspiracy agrees with what they say

If they are young and we think their ideas need changing then we should try and educate them.

More like you discovered OP just turned 18

Please stay. We need your balance. There are some absolutely disgusting things being said in that thread. I'm enraged about the dog getting shot too, but I wish death/torture on no other human - that's just as evil.

Loss of job and/or imprisonment should suffice.

Thank you, I'll probably come back later. I was expecting a convo on there about how to contact that department and pressure them into firing this guy and hopefully the family would pursue charges.

This is to be expected when people get dangerously desperate about the lack of action and justice. It is our responsibilities, as the sane ones, to try and direct that into a more useful and strategically sound action, that doesn't lead to more deaths and violence than absolutely necessary.

Haven't seen the thread, but you can use a police departments non emergency line anytime without repercussions as long as your questions pertain to the department you are calling. Feel free to drop them a line anytime

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/disturbing-body-cam-footage-shows-alleged-cop-calling-dog-killing/

That's the thread. Thanks for your tip

Yeah I was there too, it was pretty bad. I'm a dog owner and dog lover, and these videos make me crazy. But killing the cop is a crazy overreaction. Fired and charged just like a civilian would be is plenty punishment.

Imprisonment is torture.

Li ching is torture. Imprisonment is imprisonment.

Actually, you have a point.

Sooo...what? Do you want attention by announcing your departure? I see you berating others for not contributing to your discussion, but why should they care if you are leaving anyway?

It's been my experience through my 20+ years of participating in online discussion forums that people who announce their departure are kind of drama queens and they don't really want to leave. They want to see if people care about their departure or they want to air a grievance to the community about the problems of the community they are participating in.

Rarely do they really leave.

I unsubscribed. Just here for some discussion on the matter.

So are you really just going to wait and resubscribe when you can be the 260,000th subscriber and then announce that to the sub in a dramatic fashion?

..not to be conspiratorial or anything.

I better put my hat back on now.

259,829. So close.

Yeah if you're not going to take this seriously, neither am I.

Yeah, there's more important stuff to read.

Good point. I'm out.

/r/emmawatson is a good place to start.

A significant portion of the submissions to this sub are proto posts of /r/news, /r/worldnews and /r/politics. You will occasionally see the exact same articles pop up on those subs if they are triggering the right response here.

Our whole generation and the next is totally ignorant to this kind of political savy. We get trapped on aggregate sites and just blasted with propaganda and it's allowing the government to just act with total impunity.

And that's what you see here and I cannot explain what the reason for it is. People are being conditioned to hate local law enforcement. But that's not what makes you or me angry, it's that people on this sub can be so easily made to feel a certain way. It's that the brainwashing works so good even if when you have an idea that it's happening.

Take a walk through the justice system and tell me it's the media turning people against cops. If you want people to respect you, don't treat them like a cash crop.

Respectfully disagreeing.

Anyone touches my dog and I'm all for an eye for an eye+ type mentality.

So you're going to actively perpetuate the cycle of violence by meeting unjust and wrong violence with more unjust and wrong violence?

An eye for an eye is not correct nor does it help society advance.

This is why Hammurabi and his code can go fuck off, because Jesus forgives all.

Perhaps if we were all more forgiving, people would be less inclined towards violence against one another.

Doesn't bring my family member back. I acknowledge the legitimacy and need for your argument but I'm still not going to stop, he/she would pay dearly for their horrible choice.

Doesn't bring my family member back.

Nothing will, why are you even saying something so irrational?

I'm still not going to stop, he/she would pay dearly for their horrible choice.

As will you, good luck with that.

I kinda saw your comments and tone coming when I was swyping my reply.

All I really have to say about it is, "Don't start nothin, won't be nothin". I put a high price tag on taking someone else's life, unfortunately for people with your mindset, that list includes taking the life of someone I love dearly. My dog is family, I'd do the same for him as I would my own.

Yeah, obviously circumstances need to come into account, I wouldn't defend the grossly guity such as my dog attacking someone.

I'm curious as to how you would punish someone whose taken the life of your dog, assuming you've had/have one?

Your jesus can forgive the killer then, I wont.

This is why Hammurabi and his code can go fuck off, because Jesus forgives all.

Nope. There must be true repentance. Or you still end up suffering punishment/damnation.

I wouldn't stop you, like if I saw someone hurt your dog, and you went after them, I legitimately would not intervene. However I wouldn't be able to keep you from going to jail.

Killing people's dogs is apparently a sign that things are going in to Nazi mode. There was a paper posted pretty recently that basically says when cops are killing people's dogs it's a sign that they're telling the public they better stay inside with their pets or else.

The conspiracy is these officers are told to kill dogs.

This is interesting. I have a family member who is a former cop and now hates police (go figure) I'll ask them about this because they'll definitely tell me.

Probably because cops are all Israeli trained now.

No they're not. Some are Israeli-trained, not "all".

And that doesn't even have anything to do with the discussion at hand... you're just throwing Israel in for no good reason.

"No they're not. Some are Israeli-trained, not "all". "

Oh yeah, just "some" doesn't make it weird at all. Same with having a branch of the NYPD in Israel. Totally not weird at all.

A country that's home to Intel chip manufacturing, research and design also happens to get 8 million dollars a day in "aid" from the US are you really surprised it's in the mix on this sub?

You'll shit your pants then when you realize that allied countries train their armed forces and counter-terrorism units together all the fucking time.

Nah, that makes sense having a counter-terrorism unit teach another counter-terrorism unit.

It doesn't make sense having a national army teaching a local police force. It'd be a bit more understandable if America's army trained the NYPD after being trained by Israel's army.

I mean keep spinning it anyway you want but it's still fucked up. Especially when everyone knows the terrorist threat is generated by the government itself.

Never heard this. Source?

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/09/nypd-now-has-an-israel-branch.html

I've never heard this before. Interesting. However, the article says that it is just the NYPD and a single branch.

Also watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ava1uEzxYnM

and:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/12/1044508/-Are-U-S-Police-training-with-the-Israeli-Military

The problem is killing a friendly dog is actually worse than killing a person. You might not agree but take a moment to see another perspective; a dog is considered man's best friend because they have been domesticated before civilization even took root. Now dogs are so ingrained with trust and loyalty to man that will forgive a person for any injustice that is done to them, that is pure innocence and being a complete subject to man. People are not innocent, not one person is completely innocent of doing harm, while the act of killing a person is anti-humanism it is nowhere near the power or act of disgust in killing an innocent loyal creature known as the canine.

So many trolls in this thread.

i'm not trolling, that is what I believe, but that doesn't mean just because someone killed a dog that person deserves to be killed, far from it

And I agree with you danknerd. I am not a troll but a human who values animals the same as humans [if not more in certain cases]. That is not trolling, that is my opinion and I am glad there are others out there.

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I don't think punishment as an idea is moral at all. We put people in jail so they can't cause any more harm, not to harm them as a revenge. Punishing someone as revenge is just sating your own bloodlust. Of course, sometimes it might be required that someone be killed for the safety of others, even in this case the motive should be to protect, not to punish. This is how I feel on the subject. Also, don't throw terms like "evil" and "good" around, since that's all completely subjective. An eye for an eye doesn't actually help at all, what does it cause? The first eye won't grow back, and the attacker losing an eye doesn't really affect anyone.

Punishment is totally moral. There should be both a punitive and rehabilitative component to deal with crimes. It doesn't have to be revenge or eye for an eye. For example - it could just be negative reinforcement like losing certain privileges or rights - you know like being confined in prison. While hopefully getting some counseling and rehabilitation.

We agree, if you read my comment fully, I never said that we shouldn't confine those who cause trouble in society to a prison or even kill them if neccesary. When I said punishment I meant something like the torture that some people were suggesting, and what the orignal post was responding to.

I don't think punishment as an idea is moral at all.

This is the most idiotic thing I have read all day.

How is it not moral to teach another human being that there are consequences for their actions?

Do you not understand how punishment works?

People who lack discipline go around being lawless, reckless, and displaying a complete and total lack of any form of regard for the well being of others.

If you do not discipline these people through punishing their bad behavior, their bad behavior will continue to run rampant.

It is through discipline which is aided by punishment that we are able to attempt to correct these bad behaviors, and it does not have to be accomplished through physical means, though there are certainly extremely appropriate times in which to use the appropriate physical punishment.

We put people in jail so they can't cause any more harm

That is only one reason, because remember that they are supposed to be CORRECTIONAL facilities, the point is for the people going there to realize that they need to correct their behaviors which lead them to become imprisoned.

Punishing someone as revenge is just sating your own bloodlust.

That is called the abuse of power, any abuse of power is wrong, but punishment in and of itself is not wrong or immoral.

Also, don't throw terms like "evil" and "good" around, since that's all completely subjective.

LOL No. Good and Evil is not all completely subjective, murder is evil and is wrong, theft is evil and is wrong, purposely causing others emotional harm is evil and wrong.

An eye for an eye doesn't actually help at all

And nobody thinks that it does besides that dumbass Hammurabi and that old fuck ass is long dead.

Just like Descartes, moron can't even distinguish between dreaming and reality, so why even listen to a single word that dumbass has to say about anything? Especially ethics and philosophy, you want to take that idiots opinions on ethics and philosophy when he says we can't even truly determine whether or not we are dreaming or in reality?

This is too easy, you all have to up your game.

My argument is this. I like to deal with reality, and the reality is the punishments I described are probably much more than what will actually happen. Loss of job and future good jobs, felony charge, say 5 years in jail (in solitary), and daily therapy. None of that will probably happen, so calling for the killing of this guy... I just don't understand. Also, who's going to pull the trigger; you? Who would be tasked with shooting the guy and how would they feel about it?

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Once we have killer bots, we can free ourselves from moral responsibility for execution, war, and all violence.

No, wrong. Please explain how what you are saying has any semblance of truth behind it.

long term outcome similar to League of Legends; all disputes are settled in an arena through robot combat.

That's not how humans work, are you an idiot? Humans get pissed off right then and there and don't have the patience to agree to a robot fight, they grab a vase and smash it and cut that dude with it and fight then and there right when they get pissed off.

from animal abusers (animal includes human).

Humans are mammals, not animals.

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I thought your "back to reality" meant that what you were saying prior to that was how you would like the world to be ideologically.

Why even start your post with that stupid shit nonsense though, why not just start at reality huh?

And mammals are animals, ok?

Not all mammals are animals, humans are the one mammal that are not animal.

Originally, Linnaeus established three kingdoms in his scheme, namely for Plants, Animals and an additional group for minerals, which has long since been abandoned.

Oh man, looks like the taxonomy is not well agreed upon and they STILL can't even determine which family bats belong to, as they keep changing it because they don't have enough evidence to support any of the families they suppose it belongs to, which is why they keep changing it.

You don't think a human run system like this would make mistakes? Our justice system is bad enough as it is, especially for police. It seems as though the ideal justice system for users of this subreddit would be Judge Dredd busting down doors and capping people on the spot.

The philosophy of peaceful resistance is what has gotten us into this situation. If cops or government officials get out of line - kill them. It is far too dangerous to allow people get that kind of power and then allow them to abuse it. They must learn that we will not tolerate their abuse of our power and send a message that their behavior will not be tolerated. That power, over life and death, belongs to the people assembled - not some thug with a badge.

It is lack of unity that has gotten us to this situation, and not peaceful resistance. It is the fact that we all don't care about each other, and have fell right into the propaganda of dividing ourselves up over every stupid topic.

If you decide to take this on your own and murder a cop, you look like a lunatic. You are not going to do any better than Chris Dorner already did. You can't ignore the fact that you need people to be on your side if you want to win. You don't get that to happen if you mindlessly murder a cop and assume people will understand your actions.

We need to strategize and not just act out our emotions, because that's what always gets used against us.

We need to organize a parallel legal system to arrest and dismantle the currently existing. Police officers and government officials must be arrested. Mayors must be recalled. Bankers and cops who abuse their power must be publically executed to send a message that their unlawful behavior will not be tolerated. They work for their financiers and the only financier of the government should be the people with power over their own money supply, currency, and directed usage.

I do completely agree with you. However, do realize that the first step required for any of these changes to actually happen, is for people to work with each other. We all feel weak and helpless because there is nothing we can do as individuals, and we don't have the connection with others, to demand any actual change like you have proposed.

People only care for themselves these days, and don't wish to work alongside people who hold different opinions... which makes it impossible to form any kind of unified resistance. With less jobs and increasing struggles in our lives, people are only going to get more divided and selfish. We have to work towards changing that - towards teaching people the importance of accepting differences, and working towards a world that we all want.

I actually created a sub /r/UnitedWeStand that is build for this purpose, and the sooner we work towards accomplishing this, the sooner we can demand and make changes happen in our communities.

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So you're leaving because of other peoples opinions?

If you don't agree, then you should stand strong on your own opinion, and continue on. Not leave the sub, I mean c'mon.

If ANYbody intentionally kills a families pet soley for their despair deserves the same punishment they handed out. Do I think he should be tortured? No. At the least he should be stripped of that badge because of the oath he has defied.

See, I agree with you. (Just not to the point of killing the officer) You're reasonable. In the sub people seemed to have this cop killing and torture fetish. One person called for reasonable punishment but were downvoted to hell.

In the sub people seemed to have this cop killing and torture fetish.

Yes, it SEEMS some people have this cop murder fetish.

One person called for reasonable punishment but were downvoted to hell.

Downvoted to hell for expressing anti-cop murder sentiments.

SO, when it "appears" that many users are expressing hateful sentiments, and they are all low level worthless no effort "kill that pig!" type of comments, in the same thread where other reasonable comments get massively downvoted, it is then reasonable to assume that these "murder cops" people are largely shills and trolls trying to discredit this sub through the appearance of a murderous user base.

It is the lowest level most pathetic forum sliding technique they have.

Do not be fooled by it, learn up and better your knowledge.

Cop hatred is being subtly pushed by the media with all these stories.

Cop kills kid with Wii remote? "What a bastard."

Cop kills unarmed black kid? "Racist piece of shit"

A dog? "Kill him"

They want us to hate them, disrespect them, attack them, so that they can justify force. I try not to let myself give in to the influence, but I have a bad personal history with law enforcement that brings in more genuine disrespect, as opposed to most of these peoples influenced hatred.

I try to remember they're still people like us, I mean I could go be a cop right now. As soon as that happens is as soon as I pick up all the hatred that ONE cop far away generated from all the people.

Cops honestly should be on high alert and prepared to shoot. People are on edge. I can't just go to the gas station without getting dirty looks from everyone, and see everyone look at everyone that way. You can tell they're ready to defend themselves.

My goodness times are tough right now, you can cut the tension with a knife. We're ready to blow, and so are the cops.

Cops honestly should be on high alert and prepared to shoot. People are on edge. I can't just go to the gas station without getting dirty looks from everyone, and see everyone look at everyone that way. You can tell they're ready to defend themselves.

No they should not. Them being more prepared to shoot will only lead to more unjustified shootings of innocent people which will lead to more cop hatred and violence.

Cops need to be held accountable, and act professionally to regain the lost respect. The corruption also needs to be rooted out independently. Because nowadays cops who try to root out corruption like Adrian Schoolcraft get fucked over.

They should definitely be held accountable for any crime, but most of us as citizens are ready to rip a cops throat out, a police officer could be your neighbor.

I think a cop has the right to defend himself, and be prepared for vigilant citizens.

There's only a few of these bogus cop cases over the past..how long? Enough to stir up people's heads, I wouldn't say it's enough for every cop to not be able to draw his gun, be on high alert, and be prepared to shoot.

I think it's more about the fact that the cop made the conscious choice to harm, and that is what is being called into question. It's worse that he chose to enact that harm on a trusting creature, which just adds to the evidence that this cop is a terrible person before and after the act. I think people really want his personality punished, with this as proof to his deserving, than just 'he killed a dog' but I don't think people even truly understand why it makes them so hot under the collar. If you look at it that way, it seems less obtuse that people could be so angry and want him punished. The act speaks to the larger problem of his personality being someone who does this, consciously and with enthusiasm, and that mentality is deserving of severe punishment in their minds. Not just one event, but the context of that event coupled with the fact that this man acted indiscriminately toward a perceived innocent and trusting animal, is disgusting. He made his choice, he acted out violence towards another creature willfully. He didn't panic in a stressful situation like a cop on a call could. He didn't accidentally shoot the dog and remorse about it later. He didn't shoot the dog in self-defense after it attacked him. He made the choice to act like a psychopath and having his badge taken away is not enough. If he can do this to a dog, who says he'll stop there? It's about WHO he is, and people are correlating it with WHAT he did. If it were any of the other scenarios above, I'd think the people were fucking disgusting idiots for their comments too. However,it in this case, it's hard to justify that the cop wasn't out of line and that people's reactions aren't over the top.

Yeah? That got you? It wasn't the shit like this racist bull shit?

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Ya there are a good deal of provocateurs here trying to stir up shit which could ultimately get them arrested. There is a big push on cyber crimes and what better way than to tar the sub and draw in a few patsys.

How shocking that violence begets violence. The government murders and tortures people and animals every day, for years, for decades, and for centuries, but the second people get fed up and call for equal treatment against the aggressors, it's shocking.

Leaves this sub. Goes straight to conspiratards.

Yeah fuck you, you won't be missed.

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Did I cheat on you?

I started coming to this sub for the rare occasional post that was intriguing and thought provoking but similar to you the insanity here is palpable. This sub is an absolute joke the very idea of "free thinkers" is shit on. Make a comment of skepticism about some insane post or made up factless story and you get pm's from crazies calling you a shill and threatening you.

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Nice try shill.

There's always threads on here saying "I'm going to stop reading /r/conspiracy and you should too!"

Utter propagandist bullshit.

I don't want anyone else to stop. This is my opinion. I would never stop someone from reading anything

I'm finding that you'll probably run into crap like that in other subs. I agree with you 100% -- but I find that seemingly is the norm here. What a let down. There are quite a few very cool people here, don't get me wrong. But many get drowned out by the stupidity, which just makes people scared to type something that disagrees with the 'mass of the immature lemmings'.

Good luck to you... too bad they drove you away.

my reaction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoJdb1TLLJQ

CURLY BILL! YOU CURR!

The more "i'm out because x thread" we'll see, the more x threads we'll see. I understand you though, i'm just saying it's one hell of a divisive and disruptive tool you are all casting light on with your ostensible departures for x and y. People say dumb shit, even among the smartests, get over it ;)

THIS. I agree 100%. Hanging here is no better than watching the evening news. Zero intelligence.

some ppl have more sympathy for animals than for ppl, it's a sad fact,

i agree with OP about the age of many Redditors, but not all responses are that bad,

don't forget how the Internet allows anonymity, which i believe is the reason that it gets 'crazy' sometimes. you have to ignore the dumb shit.

You've gotta accept that the majority of people in this world are idiots.

I don't give a shit if you leave or stay but if you've been on this sub for two years you should know that asshole trolls regularly post inflammatory comments here and then sock them to the skies with upvotes while downvoting critical thought. Just saying.

Get RES and label people...it makes for a much more colorful experience. You can use threads like the one you mentioned, and ones like this, to root out the psychos, white knight try hards, effete crybabies who's feelings get hurt over words, trolls, oxford comma, and shills. It might save you some money on butt chafe paste?

Look, don't take all the angry comments too seriously, people say all kinds of crazy things on the internets. People like to vent frustration and rage, the tone of the average commenter is far from how they respond in real life. That being said there are plenty of immature people out there who would say things like that without thinking.

My sister for example, is of the vegan/PETA crowd and often says ridiculous things about what she would do to anyone who hurts animals whether they are a cop or not. She is overly emotional in her responses, but she is however also a grounded person and a pacifist who would never do anything violent in real life. What she does do all the time is run her mouth to anyone who will listen, much like the people of reddit.

Can I just point out that because of the low status of the conspiracy topic, we are a clearing house for all the freaks. To take this subreddit super seriously is your own damn problem. But frankly the hardcore anti-cop stance is all over reddit, it's just that people here have no reason to have a filter.

OP, if I would leave a forum every time some 14 year old cracks a joke when a picture surely shows animal cruelty, I would not be on reddit any longer. Yet I am as pissed off about those as you are about the cop haters. It is about time that humans step up a gear and treat animals right. Those that think it is nuts to appreciate animals more than humans have a lot to learn.

This is the same reason why I never even bothered to read that thread in the first place. Some people value the lives of animals over people. I know this to be true. I don't condone animal cruelty or malice, I think all living things are meant to have the same respect regardless. There are only two acceptable reasons for violence in my opinion, one being in self defense or in the defense of another who is helpless, the other to feed. Other than that, it's quite disgusting and in violation of basic natural rights.

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You can't really blame people for valuing the lives of animals above people. Community atmosphere was killed in the West a long time ago. People stopped identifying with each other for individuality and isolation followed. A lot of people are disconnected from society because society is, today, a social engineering project. This brings out the worst in people in general from materialism to ignorance and greed. The human animal is the most horrifying on Earth.

As for cops or what they really are, statute enforcers or street security guards, they aren't exactly out there protecting people and they are sure doing more harm than anything else. They've become so pointless and bloated they are out there murdering children and dogs. I can't really feel bad if some of them die. There may be good-hearted cops, but we only see the corruption and what these good-hearted cops allow. Evil is to be able to do something and not do it.

I do feel bad for the family's and the pets who have become victims of over-funding of these mere security guards. Let's face it, they aren't detectives and this isn't CSI. The police are nothing more than a response team. People call them when something bad happens and they show up to document the scene like field data entry clerks. But today they are becoming more and more intrusive and like speed bumps, they kill more people than they save. They are becoming judge, jury and executioner. We don't need a bunch of Judge Dredds roaming the streets being proactive. We need them to do their jobs. The police should be invisible until needed, not terrorists.

I have two theories:

1. People are angry; and when people get angry, they want blood.

2. This sub has been infiltrated by shills and are playing off people's want for bloody revolution.

Personally, I believe it's a mix. In that case, we are being played like a fiddle. TPTB want a revolution so they can control the masses better.

I agree completely this sub has become terrible over the last month or two. With that twitter post earlier and the dog shooting responses I'm finding little interest in the recent content. I shall join you in your unsubscribing of this community.

Kinda off topic, but if you're finding yourself wanting a skeptic's viewpoint after leaving the sub and you happen to be a podcaster.. check out the No Agenda Show with Adam Curry and John C Devorak. Media deconstruction and some really thoughtful analysis as to what the M.I.C. is doing, and why they're doing it.

Let's not forget the Snowden docs revealed the NSA actively participates in online social media disinformation campaigns. Hyperbolic, devisive rhetoric is a hell of a way to turn well-intentioned people away from a community like this.

Yeah, I find the support of people like Mike Brown on this sub pathetic, but what are you gonna do.

What, did I stumble into a Destiny thread?

Oh no!

Well....Bye

bu by

What does that contribute to this discussion?

I thought you were out.

Bullshit, dude. An eye for an eye is a very fair way to administer justice. Think about it: if you believe the animal is a person, the cop's a murderer. If you believe the animal is a person's property, he's a thief via property destruction. Regardless, I think it's clear animals are not typical property. They feel, think and love freedom, hate being caged, just like you, me and everyone else. It's cruel to kill just to kill. It's a power struggle. Idk, it's sticky, but fuck him. At the end of the day, a pig killed a dog. It's animal vs. animal.

As they say, don't let the door hit you...

Seriously though I get your point but this sub is full of all kinds of crazy so I'm surprised you're not used to it.

Bye bye, nobody will miss you.

Also, anyone who kills a non-aggressive family pet deserves to die or be shot. The user you're talking about also said that people should only be judged based on the crime committed, and not the accused person's past history of crime/mental illness.

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2jk6kj/body_cam_footage_shows_cop_calling_a_dog_over_and/clcnk09

I would miss you much less if you were leaving.

And I'm supposed to care... why? I don't know you. I don't care about your opinion. I don't care who you are. You are literally less important to me than an ant in my neighbor's yard.

You are literally less important to me than an ant in my neighbor's yard.

That's why you're supposed to care you stupid numbskull, your human empathy fucking sucks, seriously.

Good for you being yet another "Well actually I don't give a FUCK about you, you're LITERALLY LESS IMPORTANT TO ME THAN ANTS BECAUSE I AM A GIANT FUCK WICK." person.

The planet really needs more assholes that don't care about other people.....................................

I should demonstrate empathy on the internet? What is this, tumblr? Should I start referring to you as xir?

Then why are you using time in your life that you will never get back, to comment on a post that I generated?

Because I can't sleep and this is more fun than staring at a ceiling.

There are better solutions to take care of not being able to sleep that aren't coming in to random threads on /r/conspiracy to make completely stupid comments alleging people deserve the most severe punishments ever for behaviors and actions that can be corrected.

you can't fix someone who is a sociopath.

Read a book then. Maybe the bright screen is preventing you from falling asleep...

brightness is turned all the way down, and the only books I have are ones I've already read, and the dictionary.

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I couldn't agree more...

Good job on proving who's the dumbass in this thread.

Because I am not hostile with every comment?

Oh sorry I thought this was a game of asshole-ishness. Just thought I'd participate considering the asshole who started it doesn't deserve anymore respect than he has given.

I can see how I'm an ant in this world, though ants do big things, so that's something I can be proud of.

You on the other hand are more like toilet paper that kisses that sweet ass before getting flushed away forever.

The toilet paper serves more purpose to a person than an ant does. I still come out on top in this situation.

It's funny that you think this is some sort of competition of coming out on top.

No.. you literally just deserve to be disrespected atm.

I'm just having fun. If I wasn't, would I be participating in a conversation about what would win between an ant and some toilet paper?

If that is your idea of having fun then you are truly a lost cause.. or maybe a just piece of toilet paper, that never even got the opportunity to wipe anyone's ass.

Or maybe your a piece that my girlfriend uses to wrap her used tampons in.. either way.

Again, you're confusing the metaphors with literal objects. Right now, this is more fun than watching infomercials.

Again, your confusing my original point.

Believe it or not, this isn't actually about shitty paper.

But if this is entertaining to you then I'm done making you happy.

Cuz ya know, you're already happy enough being used toilet paper ;)

Haha, you serve to wipe other peoples ass. I'm really glad that's something you can be proud of.

An ant is independent, carrying weight on his shoulders greater than any piece of shitty paper will ever know.

Yeah buddy you're on top.

An ant can be killed by nearly everything. It's relatively weak. A piece of toilet paper could easily smother an ant. Maybe you want to come up with a better metaphor for me?

Are you trying to justify the fact that you've been wiping ass all of your life? I'm not really sure where you're going with this.

Thanks for noticing. I actually have been wiping my own ass for most of my life.

You're the one who took my metaphor of you being an unimportant ant as a literal ant. I just went with it because it seemed like a good idea at the time.

I seriously doubt that.

You're the one making this argument about these metaphors, feeding your ass wiping skills.

My argument is that you don't deserve respect.

Did I ever demand respect? No. I simply stated that you are less important than the fictional ant in my neighbor's yard. I could not care less about your opinion of me.

No, that would have been the wrong move if you would have asked, we would be in a much different argument.

You don't even deserve to ask.

Again, I'm done "entertaining" you. It's funny how people make things a joke when they are attacked.

Just always remember that you're on top.

When was I attacked? I don't feel injured in any way.

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I'm not for middle age style eye for an eye punishment. Loss of job, jail time (all of which will be solitary since he's a cop) and therapy aren't enough for you? The punishments I described are probably much more than what will actually happen. I feel that calling for his torture and execution is so far out of the realm of what will happen that it's an extreme view point

No. You can't fix someone who is a sociopath. Therapy won't do anything. If he was told "you're going to be fired" the union would have him quit and he would get another job as a police officer in a different state or county. Jail time will just make him want to harm people more.

Those all seem to be quite absolute statements. I don't understand why you're so dismissive, and why you're so ready to just put a bullet in this guys head and move forward with your life. If this guy was bound in front of you, and you had a pistol, would you pull the trigger on this guy?

Yes. Better I pull the trigger on him than he pull the trigger on a family with children. He wasn't in fear of his life. He called the dog over with his pistol raised, and shot it.

Now he's gonna kill a family with children. 2 things I have a problem with here. 1, you viewing yourself as a savior putting a bullet in people heads you deem not worthy. (Sounds a little like members of, "terrorists," groups to me) and 2. I don't think you'd actually do it. I doubt your willingness to take someones life, face to face. I don't think you believe your ideology strong enough to take a life. If you did, you would have taken one by now.

1. I was in the army. I don't consider myself a 'hero' or a 'savior'. I think people who thank the troops are ignorant. 'Worthy' is the wrong word to use in this situation. What is your idea of a terrorist?

2. I would most definitely pull that trigger. Someone who is happy about shooting a passive animal, especially one that is a family pet, deserves to be shot. Based on that single action, he deserves to be shot. If he was remorseful or admitted he was in the wrong before your hypothetical situation, then I wouldn't, and khamur's idea of being fired, jail time, and therapy might work.

I was in the army

What did you do in the Army? Were you in the rear with the gear? Had a cushy job stateside did ya?

Explosive ordnance disposal (EOD)

This and the comments in the other thread all boil down to a lack of empathy. Yes the police officer made the wrong call and should be held responsible. But you are right in believing that killing the officer as a response is extreme. We have to remember that police are humans too, with families and friends outside their job. You said it in another comment here; killing this officer makes us no better than him. ;-)

Also, for those of you calling for blood, what is more cruel; put a bullet in him or publicly shame him with a trial and verdict that will follow him around the rest of his life and jail him (placing him in an environment not conducive to those in his profession). Somehow the bullet seems like a mercy to me.

No I didn't.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out!

Again, no intelligent contribution.

You're right. It means throw them in jail and have our tax dollars pay for a lowlife. I say 'ours' because you obviously dont pay taxes.

I do pay taxes...

If that is your idea of having fun then you are truly a lost cause.. or maybe a just piece of toilet paper, that never even got the opportunity to wipe anyone's ass.

Or maybe your a piece that my girlfriend uses to wrap her used tampons in.. either way.

Doesn't bring my family member back. I acknowledge the legitimacy and need for your argument but I'm still not going to stop, he/she would pay dearly for their horrible choice.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/disturbing-body-cam-footage-shows-alleged-cop-calling-dog-killing/

That's the thread. Thanks for your tip

I kinda saw your comments and tone coming when I was swyping my reply.

All I really have to say about it is, "Don't start nothin, won't be nothin". I put a high price tag on taking someone else's life, unfortunately for people with your mindset, that list includes taking the life of someone I love dearly. My dog is family, I'd do the same for him as I would my own.

Yeah, obviously circumstances need to come into account, I wouldn't defend the grossly guity such as my dog attacking someone.

I'm curious as to how you would punish someone whose taken the life of your dog, assuming you've had/have one?

This is why Hammurabi and his code can go fuck off, because Jesus forgives all.

Nope. There must be true repentance. Or you still end up suffering punishment/damnation.

Your jesus can forgive the killer then, I wont.

"No they're not. Some are Israeli-trained, not "all". "

Oh yeah, just "some" doesn't make it weird at all. Same with having a branch of the NYPD in Israel. Totally not weird at all.

A country that's home to Intel chip manufacturing, research and design also happens to get 8 million dollars a day in "aid" from the US are you really surprised it's in the mix on this sub?