I did this last year with my 16 y.o., they had a whole course about Iran. They learned about the Shah (late 1950's - 1979 overthrough), I checked her book and there wasn't a word about the 1953 coup that installed the Shah. During parent night, I had brought it up infront of everyone during the general Q & A, and the teacher tries to scoff at it. I had a quick diatribe about how talking about the middle east/Iran without recognizing the overthrow is the equivalent of talking about US history and not discussing the revolutionary war. This was also a couple months after the CIA admitted to it. Anyways, I'll check if my daughter still has her book, but as I recall, most history classes skip the 53' overthrough.

Yeah the "teachers" for the most part care. They dont really seem knowledgeable about the subject save what's in the book. Like it isnt important. Or how half truths are ok for the sake of time constraints.

I will say there are some out there that care.

The teacher was passionate, she even had them read "Prisoner of Tehran: One Woman's Story of Survival Inside an Iranian Prison" and write a report on it. It was very biased and one sided.

I find that some teachers are biased in the fact they push what they feel is important. It should be unbiased. Maybe just me being a bitchy parent.

Teachers are trained to teach, whatever the material may be.

Great post!

This is a real and serious issue. If you're of or above parenting age, you're probably well aware at just how bloody horrible the education you received was.

I will most certainly be very involved in my child's education. I will not allow state sponsored propaganda to pollute her learning or thinking.

While she's still very far away from this, I'm thinking that "Tragedy & Hope" will be her main history book for the 20th century when she's ready.

Where I'm from, they want to teach elementary school children all about masturbation and anal sex and... yeah... twisted shit from demonic, sick people.

At the moment, my child is too young to have text books, so I won't be posting any pics. However, I would really like to see others post on this topic.

While I dont agree about the sexual education at an early age . I do support it at high school age. Many parents avoid it so gotta get a better education then tv.

I don't think we need the social planners framing the conversation of sexuality at all, ever. They have been doing a horrible job thus far.

My son is also a kindergartener. I think about this very thing all the time. He's already learned about Christopher Columbus, and I explained the real situation as best as I could while sparing all the graphic details. I'm curious to see what's been changed since we were in school though. Great post.

Oh I explained it in detail. I dont find it beneficial for him to be tought in a way that is all happy and full of unicorn farts.

He is an odd kid too. The ways he reacts to things is funny. We encourage his independence and free thinking. We give him choices all the time.

Just make sure he gets both sides of the coin, if asked about Columbus at school he should give back the school version of Colombus.

That's great advice! My daughter is in kindergarten and she was telling me about Columbus and I wanted to correct her but I know if I did she would've gone back to school and corrected the teacher.

When she's older and knows when to say things that might contradict what other's know/believe I'll tell her. Plus she's in a private Christian school, I don't need the Pastor calling me up for a conference.

I disagree. Make them.

What if "one side of the coin" is false propaganda? Should he or she still get it then?

It boils down to dominant ideology. Life is easier if you can manipulate the dominant ideology, but you don't have to believe it.

No I encourage him to stand his ground. If he gets in trouble for it then I will step in and well it aint as nice.

I respect that, but you will lose your son if he gets the wrong kind of teacher, and you stepping-in in front of the government won't do him much good. Furthermore, if he can't vomit what school force feed him, he ain't getting a university degree, ever. This being said, one can live without a university degree, depends what he aims for...

edit: I can probably be clearer... i guess what i mean to say is that he needs to be able to assess who he is communicating with, before spreading truth all over their face, not only are some believers completely oblivious to truth which makes it an uter waste of time to try, but eventually he will also face non-believers who still promote the ideology, and that's when the problems arise.

I know what you mean brother. My son is the same way. He watches 9/11 videos with me. Barely even understands what 9/11 was.

I really try and explain in a way he can make up his own mind. I saw american history x when I was a teenager with my father and he and I had a conversation where he asked if he swayed my view because he wanted me to be my own person.

He always used to say dont be like me.....be better. I try to teach my son the same values.

This one goes back around 1,500 BC and it is the earliest known written contact between north america and europeans.

http://historum.com/american-history/62719-who-really-discovered-america-32.html

(Does the video still work in the USA? Or do you need to proxy there?)

(I'm sure there are various other instances of early written contact which are scattered across the internet most certainly)

I see a forum not a video.

Whoops, the video is in the post, it's sort of buried. Here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QzInFmO7cA&t=29m22s

(You'll probably have to use a proxy. It's not available in my country ever since I posted it in a native thread, and now that I've posted it here, it is no longer available in the USA.)

This one works... http://en.savefrom.net/1-how-to-download-youtube-video/ (There's lots of them so, I've already downloaded a copy for myself)

Not available in my country

Yeah I added a link where you can view and download, just copy paste.

Ok downloading it now. ... a bronze age something or other?

Yeah, Berry Fell founded something called the Epigraphy Society in the USA, and he went around keeping records of all the ancient inscriptions he could find. In that video, he presents his book, "Bronze Age America", and 29 minutes 22 seconds into it, he discusses rocks in Peterborough, which he has interpreted to be an Ancient Scandinavian Ogham. If you think about things loosely. The pacific coast has culture diffusion with the polynesian totem poles. Well, the Iroquois built longhouses. They say the Tomahawk was largely an east coat culture trend, so if that is shared with the Scandinavians, I dunno. Possible.

In any event people do believe there are ancient copper mines that the Native Indians used for trade with Europeans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_mining_in_Michigan#Native_American_mining

Native Americans were the first to mine and work the copper of Lake Superior and the Keweenaw Peninsula of northern Michigan between 5000 BCE and 1200 BCE. The natives used this copper to produce tools. Archaeological expeditions in the Keweenaw Peninsula and Isle Royale revealed the existence of copper producing pits and hammering stones which were used to work the copper.[2] Some writers have suggested that as much as 1.5 billion pounds of copper was extracted during this period, but some archaeologists consider such high figures as "ill-constructed estimates" and that the actual figure is unknown.[3]

The Berry Fell translation talks about the trades between the two cultures.

There is a significant amount of ancient history in the area. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-4sI34aIZ0

(Interpret as you will, right? I don't trust that video interpretation as much as I do the the Berry Fell stuff. So, I don't know if should mix the two together. It's good anyways, even if dates are way off, etc...)

Nevermind the footnotes, look through the book at what isn't even included at all.

I can almost guarantee that there will be no mention of the kingdom of Khazar, there will be little to no mention of the BIS, little to no mention of the influence the Rothschilds have had in European banking and geo-politics, no mention of the Haavara agreement in WWII, no mention of MK-Ultra, etc., etc.

Some of it I understand not mentioning.

Why? Those are some of the most important historical events of the last 300+ years and all have a direct impact on the world we find ourselves in today.

Cia ops are not really part of school lesson plans. Some of the ops were....... questionable in ethical standards

MK-ULTRA is the only strictly CIA op I mentioned. Public school, particularly history classes, are propaganda. I thought that was the point of this thread...

You're saying to focus on what's barely mentioned in the books, and I'm saying that what you should actually focus on is what isn't mentioned in them at all since outside of public school textbooks is where all of the actually important information is.

To us yes. But yeah do we really want a mind that young to know about things like operation paper clip? Where the bad guys were given safe haven among the very people they were working to destroy without their knowledge?

Seems somewhat counter productive you know. Sure they should know but other ops are even more fucked up lol would really fuck someone up.

I'm not suggesting we explain in detail the torture carried out on US citizens by their own government to 8 year olds, I was simply saying that looking at what's never mentioned in a history textbook is more enlightening than looking at what's barely mentioned. I was also saying that I do think kids should be taught about these things and also that there are damn good reasons why they aren't - namely that public schooling is, for the most part, propaganda.

I don't see why any of that is counter productive - but maybe I'm just missing your point somehow.

Sure you should censor. So you say you enjoy the vaccines then?

Well wife myself and our son dont have polio or anything.

Many people do not have polio. I'm glad your family is well.

I read in a history book last year at a high school that 9/11 was the first terrorist attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor.

They had just mentioned the '93 WTC bombing, so I don't know why they would say that 9/11 was the first terrorist attack since Pearl Harbor.

It's like these books are written by idiots.

Other than that, the school system is still by and large an indoctrination center.

Dare is still in full effect, that piece of shit program full of hypocrite liars indoctrinating children about drugs.

There is also a new organization called "No Excuses University" which is a huge part of their "you have to go to college" indoctrination propaganda that they plaster over almost every inch of wall space they have, no joke.

There's always a "look at all us teachers degrees" wall, and every other cork board is decorated for individual colleges that the teachers went to, and "No Excuses U" logos all over the place too.

It's freaking nuts.

Maybe college works for some. For me it didnt. I found it useless. Teaching seems like a noble job. With zero tolerance it is just a joke now.

I remember getting all the school books ready in time was such a stress when i was a kid, even though it was completely out of my control. Took quite a few years to understand who was writing these mandatory books.

I would rather know who approves them as to who wrote them.

same people of course

The most important thing you can teach your children is how to think - critical thought and analysis of the materials presented.

We teach him critical thinking and teach him consequences.

Hi everyone, I am going to be a history teacher in the Netherlands (second year of the study). I don't know what kind of information you can find in a american history book or how teachers are educated in the states.

I am told that all the history school books are just tools for your own lessons. Do not use only the history book as a source, but use other sources as well! If i make a lesson about Columbus, I must use at least 6 or 7 books about this subject.

Teachers decides what is important and what is correct. A teacher can only make that decision if he/she uses diffrent sources. Not only one history book.

(btw, I am happy when a student corrects me or start a discussion. That means he's paying attention and that he knows already something about the subject.)

Hi everyone, I am going to be a history teacher in the Netherlands

You are not a teacher within usa. I know that here they dont appreciate when you question them.I am gonna admit this lesson plan thing you speak of I doubt many teachers here do that.

As when I was is school all the answers were printed off in the back of the book. So they were prepared in advance.

Ok, that means the problem is not the books, but the teachers... If they use only one textbook as a source, wrong information will be teached..

I'm glad that you guys are parents that check the history books of your children.

I am sorry if I insult the American educationsystem. Dutch teachers are not perfect either.

Hey man its all subjective. I might be wrong and shit is different. I know what it was like for me. Teachers are all gonna be different. Some will surprise you. Others wont.

Don't forget to vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate your kids! And get that fluoride treatment every year. What's the worst that could happen?

Now the vaccines I do. I support them but not the flu one we dont.

We have well water and they supply fluoride tablets at his school. We dont participate in that either.

Vaccines = mercury and aluminum, couldn't hurt right?

It's good that you have well water. I grew up on well water and I'm sure it's part of the reason I'm such a smart little bastard! (Fluoride lowers IQ)

I did have fluoride treatments on my teeth though, thanks doc!

It could but so could gmo food. We have little to no conclusive proof to support either argument.

I dont deal in conjecture with people in this sub its easier you know. For every article or scrap of "evidence" for either argument is contradicted by experts in the field. Its tought to take sides in here because we just cant verify most the time.

Its not that I am against you because I am not. I agree mercury isnt something I member in my Flintstone vitamins as a kid. And it isnt in my a to zinc Centrum tablets now.

After a certain point one realizes that everything is a lie and then it becomes much easier to draw conclusions - you simply assume you're being lied to, and that natural is better. Thus it becomes obvious vaccines and fluoride is harmful and very profitable.

Most importantly, kids from the earliest age should learn to question everything and think for themselves.