Snopes quick to jump onboard with the Kenyan vaccine infertility conspiracy giving it a FALSE rating. They should have checked peer reviewed science journals :( snoops!
60 2014-11-17 by Flytape
http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/tetanus.asp
This snopes argument revolves around the Kenyans not having the proper equipment to test non-human samples for b-hcg. But one point they conveniently don't mention is that there IS actual peer reviewed science behind the ability for HCG to be vaccinated against to where your own immune system will destroy your naturally occurring HCG and render you mostly infertile.
http://m.pnas.org/content/91/18/8532
Now I've seen reddit's lovely pro-vaccine authorities laughing that HCG actually does the opposite of making you infertile, which is true if you are using HCG as a fertility treatment, but untrue if you're using tetanus virus as a catalyst to trick your immune system into attacking HCG, which does in fact cause infertility.
So as usual we can't trust the Kenyans tests because they don't have the proper equipment and (as conspiracy theorists) we can't trust WHO's test because they are obviously in on the agenda 21.
Tit for tat don't you say?
50 comments
12 lucycohen 2014-11-17
That's Snopes who still falls for the 9/11 Official Story
10 reddbullish 2014-11-17
Snopes is just two people's opinion. I have caught them being wrong before.
6 liverpoolwin 2014-11-17
They're regularly wrong, it's a CIA propaganda front
5 brendeho 2014-11-17
do you have proof? would love to see something on that
2 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
Care to share?
3 peterson2004 2014-11-17
Well there is no snopes article to prove him wrong.
2 Ferrofluid 2014-11-17
some of the their early UK stuff, outright lies supporting establishment rubbish.
3 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
Can you give specifics of these "outright lies"?
6 jimmyb207 2014-11-17
This one. It's easy to prove Snopes is run by shadow government.
Massive stock trades before 9/11 by people with foreknowledge - FALSE
4 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
Someone coming to a different conclusion in their analysis does not equal "outright lies" or "shadow government". Sorry.
4 Homako1920 2014-11-17
They use the 9/11 commissions report as the proof! Comical
9 iamagod_____ 2014-11-17
Snopes is straight establishment lies propaganda. They proved this time and time again.
1 liverpoolwin 2014-11-17
Even the CDC remove their own incriminating documents from the Internet, fortunately they can't yet touch the Internet Archive
http://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2mw2vc/damaging_cdc_vaccine_document_which_shills_say_is/
-1 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
They are very good at discrediting all kinds of "lies and propaganda". Do you really think the establishment has any kind of monopoly on those?
8 OWNtheNWO 2014-11-17
Using snopes =
http://i.imgur.com/6jKrChs.png
5 pupupow 2014-11-17
snopes blows ass
9 liverpoolwin 2014-11-17
It's every shill's favorite website
2 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
Snopes don't actually take a position on the medical side, so peer reviewed articles aren't relevant. They're looking strictly at the Kenya claims, and - rightly, it seems - find them wanting, because the tests alleged couldn't have taken place.
5 lucycohen 2014-11-17
Snopes is just the CIA, they still say the 9/11 Official Story is true
6 [deleted] 2014-11-17
How do you know they're CIA?
1 minimis 2014-11-17
Because their opinions differ from his.
1 lucycohen 2014-11-17
CIA or equivalent, one of the tentacles of the Elite
3 Outofmany 2014-11-17
Nevertheless snopes isn't performing a rigorous scientific study and especially the public tend to take snopes as the final word on the issue. It's controversial because although the science of that report is under question, the claim itself is plausible. Members of the public are incapable of making this distinction so while technically correct, it seems that snopes could also put a disclaimer that, if someone were sterilizing women, this is certainly a method that has the potential to do that. (Of course we all know that snopes would be discredited forever if they did do that.)
1 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
Yup. Not really their job though. Their job is to assess the evidence as it currently stands - and, right now, there basically Is no evidence available to support the claim, and a number of good reasons to doubt it.
If that changes down the road, I'm sure Snopes will update the page, as they have done others.
3 Outofmany 2014-11-17
I don't implicitly trust OP (or have time to go through the study) but he does make an assertion that I assume you are okay with:
He also states that:
If these two claims by OP are correct then I would agree that there is more to the story. Since it's not a scientific study, claiming that they are just following the evidence is too convenient. Measuring their work as journalism, I find this to be somewhat irresponsible (pending confirmation of OPs statements).
1 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
I think we need to see if hcg is present in the vaccines first. Right now, the evidence for that is slim, at best.
0 Flytape 2014-11-17
I agree with you there. But these aren't goat herders making the accusations, they are doctors and PhDs.
1 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
It's also doctors and PhDs denying them.
This may be the first time /r/conspiracy has trusted what Catholic bishops say...
-1 Flytape 2014-11-17
There are actually a lot of religious folk here.
1 liverpoolwin 2014-11-17
Quick heads-up, that website has an all-seeing-eye in it's logo i.e. don't trust it
http://i.imgur.com/qifGkme.jpg
3 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
Dude. It's a lamp.
0 liverpoolwin 2014-11-17
Then you don't know what you're looking for
2 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
Pareidolia at work.
-2 liverpoolwin 2014-11-17
Says the obvious newnick shill
2 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
If "shill" is "not seeing tinfoil Illuminati everywhere", glad to be one.
-1 liverpoolwin 2014-11-17
Had a look through your comments, saw your game
5 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
Had a look through yours.
Not sure what your "game" is, but thanks for the amusement. Tell me, which are more common, shills or Illuminati? You seem to see both everywhere.
1 Outofmany 2014-11-17
Somehow, I don't think anyone is going to take the obvious step of having the vaccine tested properly.
0 Flytape 2014-11-17
The test couldn't have taken place because someone claimed they don't have the equipment...
I wonder who made those claims? Someone related to WHO?
1 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
Easy enough to prove. Look at the test results released by the Catholic bishops to confirm their claim.
Well, except they haven't been released for independent verification. But one report says there was nothing abnormal.
4 Flytape 2014-11-17
Right, but can you see that we are mixing apples and oranges here?
The levels found in the vaccines are normal for healthy men and women, but are they normal levels to be found in vaccines?
There is a serious play on words going on here.
HCG shouldn't be present in a vaccine!
4 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
While they refuse to release the results, it's an unsubstantiated allegation. UNICEF have said they're perfectly happy to have independent tests run on the vaccines. Hard to see what else they could do.
1 lucycohen 2014-11-17
They will switch the vaccines to ones without HCG for the tests
1 Flytape 2014-11-17
This is exactly my thoughts as well.
2 lucycohen 2014-11-17
The fact that weren't giving this Tetanus vaccine to males and old women gives the game away, this was an attack on female fertility.
2 Ferrofluid 2014-11-17
Snopes is worthless.
0 lucycohen 2014-11-17
Snopes = CIA, total shill site!
-1 billsang1 2014-11-17
Snope's was started by a husband and wife team who looked the shit up on the internet. Joke
-1 iDontShift 2014-11-17
snopes is 100% under the control of big media.
only use for non-contraversial topics
of course you may not know when an item is politically charged...
so... i don't waste my time
-4 liverpoolwin 2014-11-17
Never trust a website with an Illuminati all-seeing-eye in it's logo
http://i.imgur.com/qifGkme.jpg
2 darkmatter242 2014-11-17
Pareidolia at work.