You can't escape the NWO but you can resist it. Stay with us as we need people like you.

A person can do plenty from afar. This is an information war.

Yes, I've given up on the "American Dream". We have no more rights than those in the Kongo. One is blatant the other other is subtle. Seriously, makes me sick.

Quite a sense of betrayal, huh? I just want to be free. Well, that and know everything.

Have you seen the light side to all this? It's about as amazing as the bad stuff is horrible.

I've seen the light and realized we (US citizens) are living a false life. So many people are living in harmony, so many people are providing for their people. Then we the US call them socialists, enemies, etc. It's wrong, I'm sick of the people here. I say 95% of the US are ignorant dumb asses. I'm thankful this community exists, where similar minds, detracting minds, and those on the fringe can actually all talk amongst each other. Share ideas, learn and grow. What the fuck happened to US?

Well by "light side", I meant this: Not only have we been lied to in all our media, but our churches, our medicine, and... get this... our education. That's bad, that our own government has been deliberately steering our education and stifling certain sciences.

...but...

It also means that a lot of things that you previously thought impossible just might be possible after all. Crazy stuff, like astral travel, stargates, free energy... The more I dig, outside the mainstream, the more cool stuff I find. If we can make it through the next 5-10 years, shit is about to get amazing.

So as bad as it is -- and it is very, very bad -- try to remember that things are simultaneously better than you can imagine.

We need to operate outside the system.

Go on - explain that.

By operating outside the system, I mean we should bleed them dry.

Not include them in our dealings.

You know how there are banks and credit unions?

Well, imagine a savings institution based on each trade, say farmers for example. Farmers pool their money at a particular savings institution set up just for the farming trade and the institution gives back to the farming community.

Its a win-win. I think this could work on a grand scale.

Bitcoin

That really outside the system?

Yup.

How? i mean as in how is it tamper proof?

What do you mean by tamper proof?

Switzerland? Or Liechtenstein?

seems the American dream is really just for foreigners.

...or it's just a dream, and you are truly free once you wake up from it, and can go in any direction you want.

You have a right to education - an education that might have taught you how to spell Congo (not the former Kongo - it is now Angola). You gave up too early son and simply seem afraid of the hard work in front of you.

You have a right to education - an education that might have taught you how to spell Congo (not the former Kongo - it is now Angola).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Kongo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo

Congo (or Kongo or Kongō) is the name of a major river in southern Africa, the Congo River.

It is also the name of two countries that border that river:

the much larger Democratic Republic of the Congo (capital: Kinshasa), once known as Zaire;
the smaller Republic of the Congo to the northwest (capital: Brazzaville).

But I digress

Edit: a link

Kingdom of Kongo - yes it's former name. There is no place called Kongo now.

take your L and keep it moving.

You should stay and help create a better America. There's also r/iwantout

America (imo) == Rome. We are burning, and will crash. So comes the marauders, the war lords and the Balkans of the USA. It's inevitable. I have zero faith. We need to see the US as Rome, it's burning, you either stay and suffer or run for the hills.

Where do you really think is better? The world is changing - you can't run from it.

America (imo) == Rome

You probably don't realize just how accurate that statement is. Much of the leadership of the unholy trinity (City of London, Vatican City, Washington DC) is directly descended from the Roman empire and European aristocracy. Meet the new kings, same as the old kings.

Yes, I know this very well. Have read up on the "true trinity", and that is the one you speak of. US = Military, London = Banking, Vatican = Religion.

So the Jews will kill America like they did Rome?

I'm sensing a pattern. :)

I went to Costa Rica, bought a house here. Hardest part is not speaking the language -- hard on the ego if you're not ready for it. I'm wearing shorts outside in my hammock, FWIW, but it sounds like you'd like something colder. How strange.. ;)

I have Nordic ancestors and really I don't mind the cold. To each their own. How did you do it? Was it easy? Who did you leave behind? I'm looking at leaving my whole family, but idc, because this place is fucked. I try to help, but no one listens to me :/

Yeah, they're not gonna listen -- nor would you or I, in their shoes.

"Easy"?.. No and yes. I had some anxiety, as I don't speak Spanish at all. But I had such a sense of impending doom that I forced the issue. I'd just quit my day job (specialized IT) and had some money and a million frequent flyer miles saved up, so luckily that was not a concern. Basically, I flew into an airport near the Pacific coast, rented a car, and drove til I found a place that felt like home. I sold my cars in the US, packed my stuff in a shipping container & floated it down here. I don't want to think about how much all that cost.

Left my family and a really fantastic bunch of friends behind. I miss them a lot, for sure. I console myself with having a big enough place that if any of em "wake up" and need a halfway house, I got their back.

I like your style :) ! But, let's get to figures, how much would one have to spend to do this? I'm not working with a nice budget, I'm working with "Fuck this place, there are better options".

Edit: you don't have to go into details, I just need a baseline. I know SA is far cheaper than Europe, but what is a ball park so I can plan.

You don't have to buy a place or ship all your stuff down like I did. (Part of my goal was to convert some soon-to-be-worthless US dollars into physical assets.) Rent can be super cheap here, like $250/month for something basic or $800 for a nice US-style apartment near the beach. Cars are real expensive here, and where I live there's still a lot of dirt roads, so they're beat all to hell. I bought a 3rd gen 4Runner in the 'States and shipped it down. Import tax is crazy here, so I'd guess it cost $8-10k total to get it shipped and titled here, which is about what I paid for it.

Way easier just to have a laptop + a couple suitcases and just rent furnished apartments. Bounce around the world for a while, see where feels like home.

Bounce around the world for a while, see where feels like home.

This is my dream and eventual goal but, alas, I have too many personal commitments to just walk away at the moment. Perhaps one day we can be neighbors.

Damn. That sounds like...awesome and crazy. Looks like we're yin and yang - you and me - cuz Spanish is my first language, so I'd be in pretty damn good shape down there communication wise...but I'm broke as fuck and have zero frequent flyer miles, so there's that. :)

How long have you been in Costa Rica?

Haha yeah I bet my family thinks I've completely lost my mind, esp since they don't believe a word of my "conspiracy theories".

Been here about half a year. Hate to see the rainy season go...

I bet my family thinks I've completely lost my mind, esp since they don't believe a word of my "conspiracy theories".

You don't have any siblings that think like you? Man...I swear if I had a sibling that did what you did, I'd likely join in with them right away.

Been here about half a year. Hate to see the rainy season go...

Had you ever visited Costa Rica before? What are your plans? Is Costa Rica now home/do you plan to live there from now on? Do you still talk to your relatives? Are you ever planning on coming back to the US to visit them or anyone any time?

Frickin' cool. lol

I'm older, in my 40s, so my siblings all have kids, mortgages.. I'm lucky in that I have no kids and I sold my house a few years ago. Man, I dunno what I'd do in their shoes if I woke up...

Never visited, but I imagine I'd have kept looking if I hated it. St. Petersburg in Russia was my 2nd choice -- never been there either, heh.. But yeah this is home for a while, guessing 2-3 years.

Yeah we still talk on Facebook and such, and I've been back to visit a couple times.

I'm older, in my 40s, so my siblings all have kids, mortgages.

Me too.

Fuck...take me with you!!! lol (the gf would probably not dig my taking off like that though...)

I'm lucky in that I have no kids and I sold my house a few years ago.

Cool. I'm lucky I have no kids and sold my...oh wait a minute. I don't have a house. I live in an apartment still. But hey! At least I don't have a big ass mortgage hanging over my head! :)

Man, I dunno what I'd do in their shoes if I woke up...

Yeah...I imagine that'd be pretty damn fucked up. You gotta spouse, 2.5 kids, 2 cars, and a big ass house you gotta keep slaving away for, and then suddenly you find out that your country and your life is a big, fat fucking lie. Dayem. Yeah. I think that people either flip their lid, or they just go "O_o Oh shit" and then just shut that truth the fuck down - push it waaayyyy down deep inside and never let it see the light of day again...because looking at it too much would mean having to restructure their entire life and mindset. Most of us Americans simply aren't willing to do that...Especially those of us that have husbands and wives and kids and cars and mortgages and jobs and are balls deep in debt and in the system, etc, etc...Damn. Crazy shit.

I guess that's part of why I feel there are certain definite benefits in the fact that - even though I'm in my early 40s, am a perpetually jobless "starving artist" type that lives by themselves in a little apartment in a big city and with very little money (ha. Good times!) - I can spend a LOT of my time (most if not all of it sometimes) pretty much researching and trying to find out what's REALLY going on in this world and cosmos. Most people in my shoes are already set w/a family and kids and making "career money", so to speak (and, again, likely balls deep in debt). If I had a more set lifestyle with more rigid "spouse/kids/family/house" responsibilities, I might be a bit too preoccupied with that and trying to provide for myself and my family to have a better idea of what's REALLY going on around me.

Never visited, but I imagine I'd have kept looking if I hated it. St. Petersburg in Russia was my 2nd choice -- never been there either, heh.. But yeah this is home for a while, guessing 2-3 years.

Okay...So wait a minute. You had never before visited Costa Rica...but you decided to...just go and MOVE there? You did do a bit of research on the place before you moved there, of course (RIGHT?)...but still...What did you do? Did you just...land there and say "Welp...better find a place to live now..."

I mean how does that work? Dayem.

Yeah we still talk on Facebook and such, and I've been back to visit a couple times.

Cool.

Yeah...I imagine that'd be pretty damn fucked up. You gotta spouse, 2.5 kids, 2 cars, and a big ass house you gotta keep slaving away for, and then suddenly you find out that your country and your life is a big, fat fucking lie. Dayem. Yeah. I think that people either flip their lid, or they just go "O_o Oh shit" and then just shut that truth the fuck down - push it waaayyyy down deep inside and never let it see the light of day again...because looking at it too much would mean having to restructure their entire life and mindset. Most of us Americans simply aren't willing to do that...Especially those of us that have husbands and wives and kids and cars and mortgages and jobs and are balls deep in debt and in the system, etc, etc...Damn. Crazy shit.

I don't think I've seen that put in so many words before, but yeah that's so right. My brother (wife, 2 kids, middle level corporate manager, brand new 4000 ft² house) literally put his fingers in his ears and said "Don't tell me. I don't want to know!"

Yeah I'm not sure I'd have woken up if I hadn't quit my day job. Researching all this stuff is a full-time job, like I'm putting myself through college. Really enjoying it; feels like a quantum leap in consciousness. This could be a college major.

As for moving here... I did a little research (mostly climate), a couple trusted friends had visited and liked it, and a girl I worked with was from here. But yeah I took one trip to either find a place or veto the whole idea. Found a cheap property, flew back, packed up and said my goodbyes. I don't have a lot of people dependent on me, and I'm pretty basic, so the risk was low as I saw it. FWIW, everybody says you should rent for a year before buying -- a lot of things are different than the 'States, and some people have trouble adjusting.

Kind of funny, I'll be going the artist route myself from here on out. I'll figure something out for money. Different paths...

I don't think I've seen that put in so many words before, but yeah that's so right.

lol. I'm not super sure that brevity has ever been my strong suit.

Researching all this stuff is a full-time job, like I'm putting myself through college.

You and me both. I've always had an idea even when I was a kid, but I really, consciously started researching and "woke up" a few years ago (4, 5 or so...6? can't even remember at this point). Since then, it's taken up a bit of my time.

Really enjoying it; feels like a quantum leap in consciousness. This could be a college major.

Yeah. Some of the information is AMAZINGLY eye-opening...A lot of it is not very benevolent information, but it gives you an idea of just how big this world and this universe is.

And it would be a college major if school wasn't essentially the state indoctrination machine that it for the most part definitely is.

I took one trip to either find a place or veto the whole idea. Found a cheap property, flew back, packed up and said my goodbyes.

Frickin' awesome.

a lot of things are different than the 'States, and some people have trouble adjusting.

I'm from Puerto Rico. That's home for me (though I grew up in the states). I think I'd fit right in in Costa Rica. :)

I'll be going the artist route myself from here on out.

Awesome! Godspeed on that!

I'll figure something out for money.

What do you think you would do over there for money? Did you say you worked in IT? I guess there's work for that everywhere really, no?

Gonna try to buy/sell coffee. Hoping to make a break from the computer stuff, just too greedy with my time these days.

Word. I'm pretty damn greedy with my free time as well. That's why I haven't actually had a job in about half a decade. It's fucking great! lol. I'm poor, and the gf regularly asks me "Are you always going to be like this?" but yeah...so long as I don't HAVE to have some sort of stuffy 9-5 in order to pay rent and eat, I will continue NOT having a stuffy 9-5. :)

I'm freezing my ass up here in New England, but my beer is dark and I don't mind the people for the most part.

Doesn't mean I don't want to share some rum with ya some day.

/cheers

I'll drink to that!

Damn, I need a friend like you.

Unless you have family in another country or a really good reason, I don't know if I'd go for extreme expatriation because if something global and bad happens(and it looks like we're headed that way), recent american immigrants are probably not going to have much fun.

It is pretty fucked for sure. Find a rural town in a state with politics you like and get in good there. That is my plan.

Thanks. I have, bought land by a fresh spring lake. I live in a state abundant of them ;). But I'm just sick of it, just really sick of the mentality. I hate this place, I could move to my homeland, but heh, they are right next to Russia.

It is really bad, but china and russia and even most of EU is really not that much better, they just didn't get quite as far as we did in the game. I think at this point there isn't really anywhere safe from basic greed and ignorance. Just gotta keep fighting the good fight and/or hope that the ascension crap is for real and happens soon.

You sound a lot like me. Completely frustrated with friends and family because they're too complacent and don't want to accept reality. Im constantly dismissed because of age, I "believe everything I read on the internet," I've become corrupted by the devil (that's my favorite one). I've been in a depression for over a year now. It's been tough.

You're not the only one 24 and dismissed by age because logic and intelligence can't come from a generation that is technologically superior and as such has broader world views and knowledge.

Go teach ESL in a few countries. Network, and learn new languages.

Stay here and help us fix this shit.

Everybody knows shit's fucked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWxISwEBU0U

Fuck human beings.

Fuck humanity.

It would be a lot easier and just as good to stay in the US. Probably in some extremely remote backwater in the High Plains. Hole up there, prepare for the inevitable and just survive.

NH or VT?

Portugal.

What about Canada? Seems like it would be easy to live to a more remote area/ off the grid in the great white north

Sweden APPEARS to be the best option right now. I wouldn't head anywhere in the Anglo-sphere, and Germany is almost worse than America.

Germany is almost worse than America.

? huh ?

Germany is worse. It´s what America wants to be and it is a socialist nightmare. Every single thing you do there is tightly controlled and documented. Move from apartment 12 to apartment 14 - mandatory to register the move with the government (no not the post office ). Want to make some small crafts to sell? Can´t (legally) - unless you are properly trained and accredited to do so. Want to start even a tiny business with your own cash? You have to prove to the government - to their satisfaction - that you are educated in the field to their standard and can produce for them a multi-year plan with income figures. Oh - year 3 you must pay your taxes for the year up front.

Not to mention that Germany is being overrun with foreigners who care nothing for the country and are milking the hell out of the benefits system on the backs of hard-working Germans. It is extremely sad to see.

If you don´t like "the system", developed Europe is out unless you are a millionaire. Yes it looks OK still because it is still homogeneous to a good extent, but it is heading toward big trouble. Don´t let anyone fool you.

Ok. You make good points. But what about the people? The food? Culture? The architecture. The beautiful countryside. It has a lot going for it. Then there is the free education and healthcare. Also the cops are unlikely to murder you for allegedly selling cigarettes. It pisses over the USA in many respects.

It would be useful to know what your original country is, whether or not you are a dual passport holder, and whether that other country is currently EU or possibly CIS. Those are all very important points.

What you 'want' to do and just fishing around for countries to move to isn't going to work.

We plan to expat, hopefully next year. I have put years of research into various countries and their residency visa requirements, investment visas, banking and tax issues, moving money.

I can't overstate the importance of meeting the requirements for residency visas.

Knowing nothing about your situation except that you are dissatisfied, tech accomplished, and probably hold a US passport, I would suggest you look at south America. Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, Peru, Colombia, Ecuador, and Panama.

If your original country 'next to Russia' allows you any kind of entry or exchange with the EU, I would suggest you look into Bulgaria, Czech Rep., Estonia and Croatia.

Need more information.

I hope you find what you're looking for.

Switzerland, if you can afford it. The Scandinavian countries have been poisoned by a wave of Islamic non-white immigration. Australia, Canada, and New Zealand are infected with socialism and also are being poisoned by non-white immigration. England is already gone. So in France. Germany is on the brink. Maybe Russia would be a good long-term choice.

Iceland.

Hell's nice this time of year and there's no propaganda they're just so blunt with what their intentions are with you it's almost pleasant

Iceland, best I can figure. Or new Zealand.

I've seen the light and realized we (US citizens) are living a false life. So many people are living in harmony, so many people are providing for their people. Then we the US call them socialists, enemies, etc. It's wrong, I'm sick of the people here. I say 95% of the US are ignorant dumb asses. I'm thankful this community exists, where similar minds, detracting minds, and those on the fringe can actually all talk amongst each other. Share ideas, learn and grow. What the fuck happened to US?

You have a right to education - an education that might have taught you how to spell Congo (not the former Kongo - it is now Angola).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Kongo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo

Congo (or Kongo or Kongō) is the name of a major river in southern Africa, the Congo River.

It is also the name of two countries that border that river:

the much larger Democratic Republic of the Congo (capital: Kinshasa), once known as Zaire;
the smaller Republic of the Congo to the northwest (capital: Brazzaville).

But I digress

Edit: a link