Many of you probably aren't familiar with /r/nolibswatch but they just uncovered an actual shill, with evidence, who had been targeting /conspiracy and they got the shill banned by reddit.

45  2014-12-08 by Flytape

Information to this specific incident here

https://www.reddit.com/r/NolibsWatch/comments/2oo34j/obnoxious_rconspiratard_regular_and_major/

If you're interested in "shills" then I suggest that you look at the investigation done by /r/nolibswatch mod /u/Canadian__POG here

https://www.reddit.com/r/NolibsWatch/comments/2o7tqc/while_gossiping_about_me_with_ujcm267/cmlk4ny?context=2

Which lead to reddit banning this actual shill on 7 accounts (maybe more).

And please support your /r/nolibswatch guardians by subscribing to their subreddit and reporting any suspicious activity you find to them.

Important disclaimer: shill accusations are not allowed in conspiracy except when there is objective proof as there is in this case. This is because people are way too quick to accuse each other of being shills when there is a simple disagreement.

Disclaimer aside, /u/Canadian_POG made an excellent case with extensive correlations and documented it all very thoroughly which lead to the admins taking real action against this person.

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Going to look into this because it's fascinating.

But a question: Won't the shill just make new accounts, perhaps IP spoof differently, after being banned?

Yes but they lose their seasoned accounts. That hurts them bad.

They just buy more unfortunately

Imo, /r/nolibswatch is an essential sub for those that wish to read about the vote-brigading and general trolling that occurs here on /r/conspiracy.

/r/nolibswatch was instrumental in exposing /u/bipolarbear0, for example.

We also played a large part in saving /r/OccupyWallStreet from being turned into an Authoritarian Worship Center.

Top notch detective work and documentation.

Gracias. The actual agent of change in that event was the critical mass of unhappy and unsubscribing readers. They lost thousands one day IIRC.

Just subbed. These people are fighting the good fight.

Nice work!

One down, 5,599.999 to go...

Once you catch a few at least you talk about it openly and learn their tricks. They will start having less of an effect. Awesome stuff.

I'd like to thank you Flytape for the acknowledgment to what seemed an easy task, as the user was unnecessarily abusive, and strangely obsessed with both you, and /u/TheGhostofDusty.

So as a recently added moderator, and plenty of free time due to my ongoing recovery from open-heart surgery, I took it upon myself to look into his behavior, which took under an hour due to their post history being noticeably small and clearly dedicated to trolling in /r/NoLibsWatch.

/u/TheGhostofDusty should also get credit as I had not thought to go to the admins about this user, nor did I have confirmation this user was also /u/Fleshpeeler, who had been engaging in this obvious campaign of discrediting this subreddit.

Possibly relevant:

http://www.reddit.com/user/TheGhostOfHooga

Redditor since: 2014-12-08 (1 day)

Link Karma: 8

Comment Karma: 7

Diehard - lol!

Wow, good find. He truly wasted no time did he?

I think I'll wait and see if he decides to start shit-posting here and responding to himself with his sockpuppets again, then see what the admins think.

Edit: Lol, look at his brand new flair in /r/isrconspiracyracist:

Nazi Hunter Extraordinaire

http://www.reddit.com/user/Nazihunter666

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Look deeper. He has been trying to stir up outrage to get domains restricted in conspiracy. He is almost certainly JIDF or ADL

He is almost certainly JIDF or ADL

Or a Useful Idiot manipulated into behaving this way with defamatory stories of anti-Semitism.

There is a long-running smear campaign spearheaded by the mods of /r/Conspirat*rd and pals to smear me and my anti-war-propaganda sub as literal Nazis.

True there are always useful idiots. But this guy shows initiative, which useful idiots don't often do.

His level of dedication is pretty suspicious, true.

You once approved me for low libs under an alt when you saw me ''troll wrangling'' just wanted to say thanks again (I'll earn my wings with new account eventually ;)

Keep up the good work, we need these spaces to share ideas.

When I say, "obvious campaign of discrediting this subreddit." I'm referring to these posts of his.

Which are contradictory to his beliefs regarding those topics, as he stated negative views towards them in /r/NoLibsWatch IIRC.

I cannot prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the user is 'shilling', but as Flytape and Dusty point out, he also had a very specific topic with which he focused a few of those accounts on.

It shouldn't therefore be completely unreasonable to suggest the user may indeed have been engaging in specific tactics relative to the accused organizations.

Secondly, "JIDF trolls" are still trolls. They just have a tendency to send a 'shill' down your spine. ;)

You should look at that guy's account. ;)

Oh... Oh I did my friend, believe me I did.

But to those with a vigilant eye, they will do as you have done without my acknowledgement. I suspect the user themselves even finds his eventual discovery itself, amusing.

Yeah. I already reported him. He didn't waste any time coming back to try and do damage control.

Trolls are way more acceptable to the general public than paid propagandists.

Sadly, truer words have never been spoken. I'd say that might be due to the general public having trouble discerning the difference between the two most of the time. That, or lack of motivation.

Link for the interested:

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Looking through the linked threads, there doesn't seem to be any indication he's a "shill". Sure, an account with apparently a lot of sockpuppets, but by that standard Unidan would have been a shill, as opposed to an internet celebrity that got caught up in his own popularity.

Is there any specific evidence indicating that he is paid to act as he has?

Shilling is shilling pay or not. He would have been banned for gaming the site, not having an agenda.

Shilling means an hidden collaboration or relationship with the party one advocates on behalf; typically implied to be financial.

It's not shilling unless he did the above unless he was doing it for somebody, if we care about original meaning of the word.

Oh man... I wish I would have known about /r/NoLibsWatch last week.

I found a user account a couple days ago that looked to me exactly like shill account: six month old account with 11,000+ submission karma.

Only submissions to /r/Israel for 4 months and then a clean break to only submissions to /r/worldnews for the last two months. Only posts comments to /r/Israel and /r/worldnews.

The account was TrUtHSeEkeR1 or something very close. I didn't bother decyphering the username. And I almost posted a triumphant "I found one!" selfie to /r/conspiracy, but I figured you folks wouldn't want the noise.

Dang it.

Oh noes, now the shill must use another tor relay! so sad

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So wasn't one of the alt names of his "nazihunter" or something like that? And there you are with your brand new account trying to convince us that he was "just a troll" and not paid... nope no siree.. can't have people knowing that paid propagandists work on reddit.

Nice of you to join us. Tell your boss we said to "fuck off".

I did nazihunter666 that coming.

Get a fucking life, how petty and pathetic do you have to be to be THIS obsessed with stirring shit up on a conspiracy subreddit? Any friends, family, hobbies, ANYTHING?

Damn, that was fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZzEzDkeHzI

Hope you didn't lose your holiday bonus over being banned.

How's it hanging, Schlomodude?