Randy seems to be involved in all kinds of secret things, a little too many it seems but who knows.

What do you mean exactly? Like what? To my knowledge, the "Mars Defense Force" (or whatever it's called) has been the main force he says he's been involved with from the beginning, and I haven't heard him diverge from that too much if at all.

I was reading that he had been abducted by aliens

Really? That he was abducted by aliens? Could you point me specifically to where you read that? I've listened to three of his talks and counting (7+ hours of lectures so far beginning from just a day or two ago) and haven't heard once about him mentioning anything about being "abducted by aliens". Would be very interested to see what you read.

worked with mind control programs

Didn't really hear him talk much about that either. Another reference it'd be great if you point me toward if you could.

been to several different planets serving as a Marine special forces on those planets

That I heard. Didn't hear so much about "several different planets", however, as much as about Mars only.

time travel

Didn't hear him talk directly about this either. I heard that he reference Andrew Basiago, and Basiago definitely talks about it, but I don't recall Cramer making great mention of it himself.

anti-aging.

That I heard mention of by virtue of the holographic physical regeneration technology that he described.

Interesting is Eisenhower's daughter mentions a few of the same: Laura Magdalene Eisenhower

Yeah. You have Randy Cramer, Andrew Basiago, Bret Stillings, and Bernard Mendez all corroborating and supporting one anothers' stories. Very interesting, to say that least.

Thanks for the link. Will take a look/listen after the current talk I'm listening to.

Hey. Just clicked on the link and read through a little bit of it.

Who is this that's being interviewed? You're saying it's Randy Cramer? Where exactly are you getting that information that it's Randy Cramer that's being interviewed? Where does it say that in the interview?

Thanks.

Thank you.

So, the 2006 interview you spoke about above actually wasn't with Randy Cramer then. He came out and started speaking actually in 2013/2014. It just happened. Not in 2006.

And regarding his abductions, they were actually MILABS. They were all military abductions done on him by members of THIS planet. In other words, they weren't extraterrestrial abductions.

Also, I didn't read any mention of his visiting any other planets aside from Mars.

Regardless, very interesting stuff. Thanks for linking it.

What's been removed? I see the whole of what I stated right in front of me. I'll recopy the text and information for you if you wish, but I'm looking at it right in front of my face right now.

Just had a mod confirm that it had indeed been removed and they had it reinstated. What the actual fuck? Why would anyone remove this post? Thanks for the heads up.

Man...I actually HOPE you're a shill, because if you're not, then you're basically choosing to write something off without even giving it any real critical examination.

That's...not very intelligent at all.

But okay.

In other words, he's dealing with things that you simply can't wrap your mind around. Makes sense. It is indeed pretty "out there" stuff compared to what the average shmuck like you or me have been indoctrinated to think is possible. However, there are other people with impressive credentials that not only independently corroborate his story, but make mention of even more technology that is just as "out there".

Your argument is basically "This shit is too crazy and out there, so it has to be bullshit."

Okay.

I wonder how much stuff that exists today you'd be saying is "bullshit" if we were having this conversation, say, 200 years ago.

the people who advance the research in these fields comprise a very small group.

I'm not sure it's all that small.

They all know each other, publish in a small handful of professional journals, and even know the people who control the grants to do research in these fields.

Ohhh. I see. You're talking about the people in the public sector. Okay. Well, I'm talking about the people working on projects that are not in the public sector.

If they say they have never heard of this, then its unlikely that its been done and that the technology and the people developing it remain a complete secret.

Not sure if you noticed this or not, but the second half of your sentence actually contradicts the first half of it. The people and the projects involved in this do remain in secret, and that's why the figures in the public sector which you refer to haven't actually heard about any of it.

This would be a bigger breakthrough than penecillin.

Indeed and correct. It would make penicillin look like...like nothing in comparison.

It would mean a guaranteed Nobel Prize

Fuck a Nobel Prize. The NP is a joke.

and an array of cushy lucrative sinecures on the boards of directors of all the major medical device and pharmaceutical companies.

Fuck that too. Here you pine to the money aspect of things. This has to do with the advancement of human civilization on this planet - not how much money and "cushy lucrative sinecures" on can have.

Who would prefer to toil in complete anonymity when he could be THE luminary in the entire medical profession by publicizing his achievements.

Who would prefer it? Try the individuals who would get killed before being able to divulge any of that information to the public by those secretive forces working behind the scenes - forces that are significantly more powerful than any scientific or medical board we "lowly citizens" know anything about. When there are covert powers on this planet powerful enough to make mince meat out of any individual attempting to divulge to the public the practically magical capabilities of some of these technologies, people who know about them tend to stfu and not say a thing quick, fast, and in a hurry.

What proof is there that this is anything but a massive lie?

An extremely cursory peruse would have provided you with this right off the bat. It took me all of a few seconds to find that, by the way.

Seems actually a pretty solid indication that he is in fact telling the truth - like I said from the onset - and that impersonating a military officer is indeed an absolutely prosecutable offense that can result in years of prison time.

My vote goes to crazy.

Of course it does. I was referring this OP to those individuals who are actually critical and intelligent thinkers, however, not those that immediately discard any information that challenges and goes against their brainwashed, manipulated, artificially constructed world view.

This claims quite a lot of things that don't actually seem possible based on what TPTB trained me to believe and not believe is real.

FTFY

He also doesn't give proof aside from making a bunch of unfounded statements.

Funny how you made all these comments not more than 20 minutes after I posted the OP up, yet the video you chose to comment upon is over six hours long.

Hmmm. Post a 6 hour 10 minute video up. Get a comment about twenty minutes later from somebody explaining why he doesn't believe it.

Got it.

Yeah that's not really convincing.

Yeah. Okay, buddy. So I have a choice between either taking a random nobody's word for it on the internet, or the word of a military lawyer who has her own website up specifically for the purpose of responding to military law questions.

Wow. Dude. You're trying like WAY too hard here. Facepalm.

Here's a guy in Canada who did exactly that.

And the military code of conduct is exactly the same in the United States and Canada. Got it.

I really don't see how it's possible to take him seriously.

Okay. So then continue using your wonderful logical skills to think the way you do. I prefer to use logic that's just a little bit more sound myself.

There's a big difference between being skeptical, and believing utterly stupid things like the earth is flat/hollow.

Now that, ladies and gentlemen, is about as frightening and blatant a strawman as one gets. It's like I'm talking to a 5 year old trying to impersonate an adult. lol

we haven't even gone back to the moon

Okay.

Nothing he's saying sounds remotely plausible, and to top it off, there is no evidence that any of what he's saying is true.

Of course there isn't...Not to those who immediately discard any information that challenges and goes against their brainwashed, manipulated, artificially constructed world view. Hmmm. Where have I heard that before?

Yeah. Nothing to see here, man. Move right along.

I'm pointing out that even if there are consequences, people sometimes are willing to ignore them.

Of course people are sometimes willing to ignore the consequences. However, one has to realistically assess just how likely an explanation that actually is when the person in question themselves has said that they have absolutely no desire to go to jail, and, on top of all of that, there are actually various other individuals with credentials greater than you or I that corroborate the story itself.

Because of this, just his claim alone is not valid evidence. It's as simple as that.

But, you see, I'm not just going by his claim ALONE. That's why it's called "critical thinking" - because you have to take into consideration various other aspects of the situation (some of which I just mentioned above) - and sometimes even "read between the lines" - in order to form an intelligent judgement.

My logic is that the guy gives absolutely no evidence

And exactly like I said, you are not really using very good logic, because there actually is quite a bit of significant evidence pointing toward what's being said as being valid. You're simply not seeing it - purposefully or simply because you're not capable.

nothing that he's said even sounds plausible based on what TPTB trained me to believe and not believe is real.

FTFY (this is getting really old).

and frankly, until I actually see evidence, I'm going to stick with my original assumption

Of course you are. It's called "not willing to see out of the tiny, limited box you've been squeezed into." I get it.

you're arguing that the government has mars bases and time travel. You might as well be claiming the earth is hollow for all the legitimacy your claim has.

And you feel this based on what you've said - all of which I've continued to show is exceedingly fallacious.

You can't make an invalid statement valid just by continuing to say the same thing over again, man. You can't turn the turd of your thinking into a diamond no matter how much you keep trying to polish it.

tiny bit of critical thinking would allow you to see that this is just a ridiculous claim.

And you see it as such based on opinion; based upon how things seem to you; based upon what you personally feel is and isn't the cased - what you've been taught is and isn't.

Got it.

TL;DR

First of all, you didn't mention anyone with such credentials who corroborates the story.

Absolutely I did. I even linked it. But you know what? You don't know anything about it. And you know why? Because you showed yourself over and over again to be too ignorant to actually understand that there is quite a bit of valid information in the videos I linked. You said yourself that you didn't look at them.

And then you went off saying what "is" and "isn't" the case or what I "did" or "didn't" present. This is a classic case of argumentum ad ignorantiam on your part...and it's really, really sad.

Secondly, I really don't get why his claim alone somehow proves anything.

It doesn't. However, the fact that it's 1) corroborated, and 2) being made by someone who would be risking prison prosecution if he were lying indicates a lot.

He says he doesn't want to go to jail, but tat hardly proves he's telling the truth.

It's really wearisome having to correct the constant fallacious thinking in almost every single sentence you make. I will probably stop responding soon, as it's more than abundantly clear that you're not really making any really strong arguments, and you just simply want to continue believing that this "can't possibly be true!". Look, if that's how you think and that's what you want to believe, then okay. Go right ahead. However, you're not really convincing anyone but yourself that you have any argument whatsoever in saying this. I think you're trying to look like you do have an argument to others possibly reading this...

But you don't. And it's taking longer than I have patience for to continue battling with you back and forth when you want to continue believing in whatever it is you want to believe. It's okay if you do. Meh.

This being said, I'll make a few final attempts to continue as long as I can before just saying "fuck it" lol.

You say he "hardly proves he's telling the truth", yet the fact of the matter is that he gives very strong indication on various fronts that he indeed is. That you simply refuse to understand the validity of what's presented is just plainly on you. Somebody can say "nuh uh!" all they want. It doesn't make something the case any less than it is.

If anything, it just sounds like he's trying to hide the fact that he has nothing to do with the military, let alone anything to do with mars bases.

...Okay.

The rest of what you typed...just wasn't read. I saw that it plainly wasn't worth it. Yours is the mind of the blind and willingly, obstinately ignorant person.

It's not really worth continuing to respond to you or even reading what else you have to say, as you've been saying the same thing over and over again. You can type out whatever you want in response.

I'll just ignored it.

Thank you.

So, the 2006 interview you spoke about above actually wasn't with Randy Cramer then. He came out and started speaking actually in 2013/2014. It just happened. Not in 2006.

And regarding his abductions, they were actually MILABS. They were all military abductions done on him by members of THIS planet. In other words, they weren't extraterrestrial abductions.

Also, I didn't read any mention of his visiting any other planets aside from Mars.

Regardless, very interesting stuff. Thanks for linking it.