There is not one single country with a central bank run by the Rothschilds. Not one. If you disagree, post some evidence instead of downvoting. I've been asking for years now and nobody has ever given any evidence for even one country.

For some reason, there are some people who believe that not only are some central banks controlled by the Rothschild, but that almost all of them are. How do you get from zero to 170 or so, without any evidence?

Why does anybody believe this?

Here are some reasons people have given:

1. I've read it lots of times on the Internet, so it must be true.
2. It sounds like something the Rothschilds would do.
3. Because you can't find evidence about it, they must be so powerful to suppress it. Therefore, anything that's said about them must be true.
4. The Bank for International Settlements.

The last one might be a reason if (1) the Rothschilds controlled the BIS, (2) the BIS controlled the member central banks, and (3) most central banks were members of the BIS. But (1) no, (2) no, and (3) no, only 1/3 of central banks are members.

So, what am I missing? Can somebody who believes this explain why?

Certainly on the more suspect of the spectrum in terms of trustworthy websites, clear citations to books will make it easy to verify as reliable.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-federal-reserve-cartel-the-eight-families/25080

" J. W. McCallister, an oil industry insider with House of Saud connections, wrote in The Grim Reaper that information he acquired from Saudi bankers cited 80% ownership of the New York Federal Reserve Bank- by far the most powerful Fed branch- by just eight families, four of which reside in the US. They are the Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York; the Rothschilds of Paris and London; the Warburgs of Hamburg; the Lazards of Paris; and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome.

CPA Thomas D. Schauf corroborates McCallister’s claims, adding that ten banks control all twelve Federal Reserve Bank branches. He names N.M. Rothschild of London, Rothschild Bank of Berlin, Warburg Bank of Hamburg, Warburg Bank of Amsterdam, Lehman Brothers of New York, Lazard Brothers of Paris, Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York, Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy, Goldman Sachs of New York and JP Morgan Chase Bank of New York. Schauf lists William Rockefeller, Paul Warburg, Jacob Schiff and James Stillman as individuals who own large shares of the Fed. [3] The Schiffs are insiders at Kuhn Loeb. The Stillmans are Citigroup insiders, who married into the Rockefeller clan at the turn of the century."

You have prompted me to search for the source of this. It turns out that Schauf is just citing the same source, so he isn't corroborating it, just repeating it. And, it turns out the name is R.E. McMaster, not J. W. McCallister.

(I have searched for J. W. McCallister before and found nothing, but R. E. McMaster has a web site.)

Schauf references Gary H. Kah, En Route to Global Occupation, p. 13 which references Archibal E. Roberts, The Most Secret Science (Fort Collins: Betsy Ross Press, 1984), 56. (warning: slow-loading PDF).

In testimony to an Idaho Senate committee in 1983, author Archibald Roberts says:

Now to identify the real owners of the Federal Reserve which is your question sir, . . . Mr. Chairman, I would like to quote from sources from Switzerland and Saudi Arabia who were queried on the real owners of the Federal Reserve. Mr. Chairman and sir, we do not mean the managers of the twelve Federal Reserve banks who merely run the banks for the owners, the real owners. Nor do we mean the members of the Federal Reserve Board who merely make decisions in line and in consonance with the directions they receive from the real owners of the Federal Reserve. We certainly don't mean those who sit on the Open Market Committee of the Federal Reserve which we mentioned earlier in this presentation. We mean the real owners of the Federal Reserve. Mr. Chairman, this has been the best kept secret of this century. And it is the best kept secret because of a proviso on passage of the Federal Reserve Act. It was agreed that no information would be released on the Class A stockholders of the Federal Reserve. But, a Mr. R.E. McMaster, publisher of a newsletter, The Reaper, asked his Swiss and Saudi Arabian contacts which banks hold controlling interest in the Federal Reserve System. This was the answer received, and I quote, "Owner number one, Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin; Owner number two, Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris; Owner number three, Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy; Owner number four, Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam; Owner number five, Lehman Brothers Bank of New York; Owner number six, Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York; Owner number seven. Chase Manhattan Bank of New York." Mr. Chairman, it is the Chase Manhattan Bank which controls all of the other eleven Federal Reserve Banks. Finally, "Owner number eight, Goldman, Sachs Bank of New York."

So, it's from anonymous foreign sources and we're given no information on who they are and how they know this and why we should assume they're telling the truth.

But that doesn't matter because this information is provably wrong. And provably wrong in two different ways.

(1) The ownership of Federal Reserve Bank stock is not secret at all. There are no individuals or families who own stock. The stock of each of the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks is owned by all the member banks in that district. (There are more than 1,900 Federal Reserve member banks in the country.) There's a formula that tells each member bank how much stock it must own based on the bank's balance sheet. The stock cannot be traded. No matter how many shares it owns, each member bank gets two votes for directors of the regional FRB. The small banks in each region pick two directors, the medium-size banks pick two and the large banks pick two. Three directors are chosen by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (the Board of Governors is a federal agency). So, even if all the big banks in a district colluded, they could pick only 2 out of 9 directors. And that would be in just one out of the twelve districts.

(2) The list is bogus. The Rothschild Bank of Berlin? Berlin? The Rothschilds left Germany in 1901, before the Federal Reserve was founded, and didn't open a new office in Germany until 1988, after this testimony. And, when they were in Germany, they were based in Frankfurt. There never was a Rothschild Bank of Berlin.

And "Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy"? Who? Nobody has heard of him. There was an Israel Moses Sieff who was a British businessman (Marks & Spencer department store), but no one knows about an Italian banker named Israel Moses Seif.

Whoever put this list together did not have special knowledge of banks. They didn't even know that the Rothschilds hadn't been in Germany for decades and they didn't know how the Federal Reserve is really organized.

Thank you for doing your research.

So you don't think that corporate consolidation of power through controlling interest and voting rights could be going on here at all?

Maybe I'm confused. But Andrew Jackson destroyed the fed once in the 1800's. So then it existed before 1988 obviously.

if i was close to controlling every national bank of significance i would want it kept quiet too. i would also have the funds and media contacts to make it happen.

oh you think they only own the banks. what about the media that suppresses information?

for example, did you know (according to an ex IDF solider) that no information leaves the country without first being approved by federal officials?

free speech for the win.

(you don't know the truth and neither do we. but we know who is to blame for all the deceit.)

edit: furthermore. they would only need to control 1 really. the one that prints the world's reserve currency, the USD.

You aren't going to get sources, there is no proof. Its false. All your going to get is other people who also believe it.

Thank you for asking this question as it does need to be addressed from time to time

Because you can't find evidence about it, they must be so powerful to suppress it. Therefore, anything that's said about them must be true.

Evidence of how they suppress information

Took me 3 mins to find that. You can redact point 3 now.

I've read it lots of times on the Internet, so it must be true

The rest of your points are shit too. Also why would you come here disproving a personal conspiracy with such a blatantly obvious agenda?

So, no evidence! Your linked article has nothing to do with his/her direct question. And then you dismissed the rest of the questions/points as "shit". You kinda proved his point. Just saying.

You didn't read the article which gives incite to how they suppress information. Also, why do people (you) think that the most powerful entities on earth are gonna let their ass hang out in the wind?

"Oh hey everyone, here's a paper trail of how we rose to power, including a list of the people we had to kill in order to remain in power. We'll just leave this here for people to see so it can haunt us forever".

Come down from Magic Mountain before you post here.

I read this information in 2011 from a deleted thread (which I saved on time) on GLP, this came from a supposedly Rothschild insider, check it out:

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"There is no future" Strange..ive had that feeling for a long time. I feel like theres a big difference between lets say..1998 and 1983 in regards to culture and technology..now a days, I feel like 2014 was not much different than 2003.

Strange, I wonder what happened between say, 1985 to 2003.

Not something big I'm sure.

what?

First of all the quote above makes a reference to the bible, already there should you consider the post a troll.

And as far as the statement you make about 2003-2014. Technology has grown exponentially and continues to accelerate. Culture as well is drastically changing to a more multicultural and atheistic one, generally speaking. Partially due to the technological advances allowing more people access to information. Hence, u see an uprising of extremists trying to hold on to the past and regain control of people/countries

As for the "world order conspiracies", it makes zero sense, bc people still die. What would be the point of "grabbing" power against the worlds best interest when those who supposedly are doing it are dead within 20-40years at best.. The day it becomes a real threat is when medical science has evolved enough to sustain very long lifespan/immortality.

and we aren't already really close to that? We can discovered aging on DNA and how to reverse it in animals. Its not hard to believe that we have more medicine and techniques out there that will never see the light of day because of the loss of profit.

it can not be done today, guaranteed. Look at the state of the art research on it, its at the beginning level. to "cure" all organs from aging basically requires technology that is today sci-fiction and before we are able to there are thousands of other incredible achievements that will happen on that road.

Edit, no one has been able to reverse aging in animals. and even so, its not the same as "curing" death.

And there are obv thousands of incredible meds that will never see the day bc of profit. "Why give people a cure when you can treat them for a fortune"

Are you high, the world in the past decade has changed FAR MORE than the previous decades combined. Here in the UK in 2003 it was only just becoming common for most households to have satellite tv and low quality broadband. Every house now has superfast internet, PVR's with thousand channels, mobile phones that are faster than gaming computers in 2003, watches that can track information about you. The internet is the new shopping centre, all businesses have been drastically changed to the point that alot of shops which in 2003 had barely changed sinceits inception to now where you have ipads in stores to buy items, self service checkouts, ways to buy your shopping online and pick it up within an hour or get it delivered to you at any chosen time slot. The ability to fundraise millions in a day online, kickstart companies. The healthcare industry has changed rapidly and with increasing computer power we are able to solve complex problems/disease increasingly faster.

You must be a recluse if you think the world hasnt changed in the past 10 years because its the most drastic shift since the introduction of electricity to the masses. The last 10 years of technological change has been fucking mindblowing and to think otherwise shows that you must be an archetypal conspiracy nut who lets anything fit into what they want to believe.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?! MY QUOTE WAS DELETED!?!?!?

What did it say pls

Ask yourself why Fidel Castro even matters alive or dead if a banking coup is in the offing. Fidel is 88 years old and has been in failing health and out of the public eye since 2006-2008. Whether he exists somewhere in a semi-vegetative state or has finally quit breathing would not seem terribly relevant to current foreign policy.

Certainly, there are lots of capital interests that see Cuba as a basket of ripe fruit for plundering, but Fidel Castro hasn't really stood in the way of that for a couple decades. Perhaps more to the point is that the Cuban economy has been so completely wrecked for so long that there simply won't be a lot of buying power there for generations.

Fidel isn't even in office. He's been out of office since 2006. When you come here to post your theories can you at least do basic research it really makes the rest of us look bad when you post crap that a five second google search or just reading the news can debunk.

https://www.google.com/search?q=president+of+cuba&rlz=1CAACAG_enUS605US605&oq=president+of+cuba&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i65j69i59j69i60l3.2631j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=0&ie=UTF-8

Fidel isn't even in office. He's been out of office since 2006.

This does not disqualify OP's theory at all. Your condescending followup is even more worthless.

Being a dick makes the rest of us look bad too, so you're not helping either.

I don't think that it's being a dick to ask people to do the most basic of research before they post here.

I think he was referring to your word choice.

Welcome to /r/conspiracy

Well, at least it isn't Fidel's brother or something. That would be complicated.

Yeah well you see how much value it would have added if OP spent five seconds fact checking?

Assuming the info fed to you by the media is accurate...which is totally naive on your part.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-25676643

Because it is all just theatre intent on getting you to choose do things you wouldnt do otherwise. ie: submit.

I thought it was more of a distraction from the 3 congessmen who sinle handedly pass sanctions on Russia at 10:23pm, after everyone had left the house.

also the boston bomber is on trail today

Alleged.

No way? Source? Is there a recent picture of him?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/18/tsarnaev-court-appearance/20575029/

Friend of the bombers mother yells out "we pray for you. We know you are innocent"

on trail

Hope his hike ends as well as the marathon.

Who are the three congressman?

This is the fucked up part, there was no record of who voted:

Passed House DEC 11, 2014 Vote was without objection so no record of individual votes was made.

Edit: check out the speed of with which it made it to the POTUS's desk.... 6 days. It toom 6 days to get it through the senate & congress, with little to no coverage until 3days ago.

Cowards.

Link?

http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2014/december/16/three-members-of-congress-just-reignited-the-cold-war-while-no-one-was-looking/

Wow. Hadn't heard about this. Thanks for the link!

Thanks.

http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.aspx?day=20141211&today=20141214

They were probably busy watching that "The Interview" shitstorm.

Nope, took place on 12/11, then the senate passed it on the 13th. The Interview happened this week, right before Obama had to sign it

it all sounds pretty crazy to me, but if he's not dead then why are they opening relations? the u.s. tried for years to kill him.

that's what i'm getting at, if he was/ is in fact alive then this probably wouldn't be happening.

of course, i'm assuming it's a matter of time then. sorry about the misunderstanding due to poor phrasing.

So. If it turns out that he's not dead then how does that affect your hypothesis?

All of it including the whole central bank horseshit? Or just the tiny fragment of your worldview that's been conclusively proven wrong?

Uh - it would be proven wrong?

I very much doubt anyone is going to war with NK anytime soon.

Especially over something so small.

Well, I guess we'll see since your prediction is pretty short term.

While we wait, tell me more about these free, broken cookies.... I hunger!

I envy you because I miss cookies. I have a cavity and I'm goddamn terrified of the dentist after 9 years of military dentists.

Dammit, now I want cookies.

Oh, I'm much better now(ish).

Part of my problem was getting a newly out of the AF dentist when I was newly a civilian. All of the callousness of a military dentist, all of the pain of dealing with normal human insurance.

The rest is just too many deployments with Doctor Ripenyank who's just trying to pay off his loans processing a thousand troops a day for the GWoT. :D

Dude, you don't know what youre missing. Civ dentists are way better than Navy drillers. They even give you drugs afterwards! Its crazy.

Oh, I'll work myself up to it. It doesn't hurt, I can just see it. I go to the dentist because logically I know it's better, it just takes me a while to get there. XD

Better make sure you don't read the ingredients. ;)

Agreed, in the Middle East, Target is Still Iran.

North Korean hackers didn't hack Sony... It was the NSA. This is a big false flag to go back to war with them.

That just got brought up to me today by someone...and made me go hmmm.

Maybe I'm nutty...

Tell me what you think.

I don't think you're nutty.

I don't think it's to go to war with them. Internet security could happen

Yeah. Going to war w/them cuz they're pissed a movie was made does seem a bit steep. However, it could indeed be the start of further tit for tat hostilities that themselves could set a precedent for eventually going to war.

why Hasn't North Korea said it wasn't them then?

I don't know. Because maybe it was them? These are just theories we're throwing out, after all.

If this were indeed a US intelligence psy-op, who do you think would report on something NK said that completely discredits it? CNN?

i think the sony thing is to fill the news so the Boston bomber does not get too much attention

https://news.yahoo.com/marathon-bombing-suspect-due-court-thursday-060022961.html

I had no idea this was going on today until I saw the above comment. They don't want us to see too much of this psy-op.

Makes me remember that the only other time he was seen in public after he was taken, his friends in the courtroom said they didn't think it was him but someone else.

Yep. Another "drill that went live".

Very plausible.

Is that a thing you're allowed to do at Oreo factories?

It was pretty widely reported when Raul took over as president that he was more democratic than his brother. And it was only a matter of time for the gubmnt over here to decide that this Cuba beef was a ridiculous waste of time and energy. So as far as this US/Cuba beef squashing goes it's pretty simple; the US doesn't really care and Raul Castro likes money. Fidel's not dead, he's on a ventilator somewhere not giving a fuck, mostly because he's incoherent.

Yeah but, I just think you're over reaching with Bank stuff. Among other things, Cuba just isn't a very big "get" for them (if they exist in the capacity you imagine).

Venezuela is going to be insolvent in a matter of months if oil prices don't head north in a hurry.

Castro thing, not nutty, entirely feasible.

The Rothschild's are the biggest red herring there is, we'll never know the real names of those running the show.

Right and then there is the false flag with France (some folks think Mossad was behind it). Motive: Install RC Central Bank in Iran. The last frontier of what is NOT under their control!

Maybe you are right about Castro, haven't heard about him in a long time. As for "central banking", firstly Cuba still needs to undergo massive economic and social changes, Raul has been implementing them, but at a very slow pace. The embargo's end will obviously lift Cuba from its moribund stage, and even be welcomed by Venezuela, on the border of an economic crisis and unable to sustain anymore its BFF.

As for The Interview, this has nothing to do with geopolitics. Its just some hacker group that tried to blackmail Sony, failed, and now decided to "strike back" while diverting attention to N.Korea. I wouldn't be surprised if ex/current Sony employees were also involved..

I'm becoming more and more convinced that it was disgruntled ex-employees who hacked Sony and the North Korea thing is just them diverting blame so that Sony doesn't need to take responsibility.

This is the stuff I like to read. I will cry when Comandante y Jefe Fidel is no longer with us. Truly a sad day. Viva Fidel

I don't know what to think but I will save this in the back of my mind.

So China's bank is rothy owned?

That sure is one credible source lol

I think its great to feast on broken oreo's. stick them in a shallow glass of milk till the cookie melts away then spoon it out.

Let them soak in the milk for awhile and then add the pudding mix.

Hmmm. what kind of pudding? chocolate, i hope.

Hmmm. Better lemme know which seems to work best

8) Thanks boss.

I guess crunchy is just as good. lol

North Korean hackers didn't hack Sony... It was the NSA. This is a big false flag to go back to war with them.

Looks like you may be on the right track. :(

• Current news headlines

Hacking a private corporation is hardly a good excuse for a war. If they wanted a cyber attack to justify war, then surely an attack on government or military or infrastructure would work.

It's still a foreign government attacking US infrastructure.

When did Russia and China get Rothschild banks...

yeah i don't see these changes happening with castro still alive

wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Obama wants to retaliate against N. K.

Also Probably CIA hacked Sony, not NSA.

ITM, it has been suggested that Sony was an inside job. Thousands were laid off from Sony's digital department in the last year, maybe some of those people has a bad taste in their mouth for their former employer. No Agenda Show has more on this.

Plausible.

Broken Oreos: delicious.

I like the way you think!

After the twitter and social engineering attempted coup by the US in Cuba I think this is just putting more pressure on Russia.

If the government in Cuba refuses to allow the US to sink their claws into Cuba they people will get out raged because their rights are being taken away/social liberties and economic prosperity guys!

While Russia has tried to increase relations with Cuba over the last couple of years and recently got rid of Cuba's old debt to the soviet union. Then suddenly America tries to get friendly with Cuba for no good reason. Why now? Why not 6 years ago?

This is all in attempt to get to Iran and NK as they are the only 2 places left who have the balls to stand up to the US government.

I think you're on to something cowboy!

I'm curious why there is a Rothschild bank in Iran. Also, I think this is a play by Obama to see how far he can push things until the Repubs take over the Houses in January.

Rothschild banks all over the world; not all of them are central banks though. Rothschild does a huge business in Russia for example, but does not wield the country's money power.

ITT: Nobody realizes Fidel has been out of office since 2006.

Moot point.

Why? Look at his health history. Just because you aren't legally brain dead, doesn't mean you are doing great. He's functionally dead.

Still a moot point. Power works in odd ways sometimes, and Castro is a man who ruled for 50 years.

Maybe I'm nutty.

Tell me what you think.

Yes

But it sounds like a good plot for a novel. Dan Brown, maybe.

Rothschild banks all over the world; not all of them are central banks though. Rothschild does a huge business in Russia for example, but does not wield the country's money power.

I don't think that it's being a dick to ask people to do the most basic of research before they post here.

what?

First of all the quote above makes a reference to the bible, already there should you consider the post a troll.

And as far as the statement you make about 2003-2014. Technology has grown exponentially and continues to accelerate. Culture as well is drastically changing to a more multicultural and atheistic one, generally speaking. Partially due to the technological advances allowing more people access to information. Hence, u see an uprising of extremists trying to hold on to the past and regain control of people/countries

As for the "world order conspiracies", it makes zero sense, bc people still die. What would be the point of "grabbing" power against the worlds best interest when those who supposedly are doing it are dead within 20-40years at best.. The day it becomes a real threat is when medical science has evolved enough to sustain very long lifespan/immortality.

it can not be done today, guaranteed. Look at the state of the art research on it, its at the beginning level. to "cure" all organs from aging basically requires technology that is today sci-fiction and before we are able to there are thousands of other incredible achievements that will happen on that road.

Edit, no one has been able to reverse aging in animals. and even so, its not the same as "curing" death.

And there are obv thousands of incredible meds that will never see the day bc of profit. "Why give people a cure when you can treat them for a fortune"

Strange, I wonder what happened between say, 1985 to 2003.

Not something big I'm sure.