Is anyone else legitimately concerned about the fact that no one's talking about the Torture report or the fact that there was a "VIP" pedophile ring with high-ranking officials in the UK just a couple weeks ago?
432 2015-01-03 by [deleted]
It seems like after every one of these "scandals" there's almost always a convenient distraction to divert our anger towards another less important problem. I posted earlier on this subreddit that when the Torture report was released, we had the North Korea hack pushed into the limelight(and what a coincidence, the media highlighted the country's torture and human rights record, basically saying, "look at North Korea, they're so much worse than the folks we tortured). It seems to have worked again in the UK. Just two months there was the news of UK investigating the list of the VIP pedophile ring consisting of high level officials and politicians. Why aren't we talking about it and why weren't there protests? Oh right, they ended up banning "extreme porn," which took up the newscycle. That ended up getting a highly publicized protest movement, though.
I'm not saying that we should only address ONE problem, ONE at a time, when it happens, because that's just impossible. But I'm noticing how easy it is for TPTB to distract the public and continue on as usual. I guess that's what's so concerning: That things are going to get much, much worse because of apathy and the people in power are using it in their favor.
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36 diatonix 2015-01-03
Yep, welcome to the world. Everyone is so ready to talk about Ebola and Michael Brown/Eric Garner that no one gives a fuck about what's actually going on in the world. Reminds me of a great video I found yesterday - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM - and by found i mean found on /r/conspiracy
1 club-mate 2015-01-03
You forgot Putin, that evi evil man.
-3 BenjimanNetanyahu 2015-01-03
If only there was a dumbed out american version of that video... 99% of the sheep don't even know who David Cameron is...
12 DaneelR 2015-01-03
Reddit is being flooded with government's positive PR. Examples:
http://np.reddit.com/r/photoshopbattles/comments/2r7qhl/psbattle_obama_wielding_a_lightsaber_in_front_of/
http://np.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2r7pjf/barack_obama_and_his_grandfather_c_1965/
http://np.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2r27ql/obama_sitting_for_his_portrait/
http://np.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2qs2vy/bride_and_groom_receiving_a_call_from_president/
http://np.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2plf73/obamas_call_with_castro/
http://np.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2pim4e/colbert_making_obama_laugh_in_the_oval_office/
/r/pics should be renamed to /r/whitehouse
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11 jmbsc 2015-01-03
It has been this way since the dawn of humanity. Those in power will always find ways to stay in power. With the technology today, the masses can be manipulated and distracted. Welcome to the slavery of your mind. But on the bright side... um... well... hmmm.
10 FutzBucket 2015-01-03
What if we did actually focus on one problem? I mean grab it in our teeth and refuse to let go.
It's not impossible, in fact, it's probably the only way to accomplish something.
14 [deleted] 2015-01-03
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4 Nogrim 2015-01-03
its the same way they dealt with occupy, divide and conquer.
give them so many different things to get mad about and then no one can agree on what they should be more angry about, rather than letting one topic reach critical mass they defuse all the anger in to small movements that will never possibly reach enough people to actually change anything.
3 FutzBucket 2015-01-03
Absolutely.
3 freckledfuck 2015-01-03
That's why centralized organizations focused on individual issues need to be created. Its how the NAACP has been fighting for black rights. Getting liberty and justice and very formulaic it just requires lots of time and manpower and organization.
1 SkepticalFaceless 2015-01-03
And donations! There's the linchpin right there.
2 jmbsc 2015-01-03
Like another plane crash.
4 archonemis 2015-01-03
I think the pedophile thing is probably the best one.
It's impossible to spin.
2 Irradiance 2015-01-03
Funny if 2015 comes to be known as the year when child rape became possible to spin.
1 Allisoneisall 2015-01-03
It's pretty much up to us to do so like we have with things such as 9/11. As long as people keep talking about it, even in seemingly limited places, the ideas and the events will stay alive.
Thankfully the torture report is well sourced to the point where not even the "skeptics" can truly deny it.
1 inkandpaperguy 2015-01-03
This is likely the primary reason for OWS failing to make any significant change. How sad is it that a third millennium society cannot digest and understand more than one issue at a time?
0 ZakTheZak 2015-01-03
u want to fix a problem look to the core of it not to the branch fails, our problem now is the few people who have some crazy ideas. they have to go, find them and get ride of them. that's the only solution.
9 ENYAY7 2015-01-03
The US government could be caught torturing Americans and the police shooting children on video and nothing would change. I'm convinced we see more abuse simply to get us used to it.
1 bitbytebit 2015-01-03
'tard apologist: Well ..they shouldn't have been playing with toy guns! .. or .. they deserved it, they stole some candy ..don't want to get shot, don't steal!
8 Fastitocalon 2015-01-03
There is this current story about Prince Andrew on the BBC website that should be getting way more attention. But it's nowhere on the "Most Popular" section that is on the sidebar of almost all articles. Deem from that what you will.
edit. so I just re-checked and it was there at number 8. Goddamn BBC making me look a fool T_T
6 pervyjeffo 2015-01-03
If we started talking about it they would just knock another plane out of the sky, which seems to be the method of distraction of 2014. Maybe something new for 2015?
2 joyous_ode 2015-01-03
With the US so eager to advance the NK hacking narrative, perhaps false flag power grid disruptions caused by "hackers" to further test the waters for militarized police rollout? Ferguson being a great testbed, but now they'll need to see how this newfound power rolls in a major urban centre. Perhaps somewhere under the surveillance area covered by those two new surveillance superblimps.
1 -Mikee 2015-01-03
2015 will have something to do with utilities and their transport. Make a note of this comment.
6 inkandpaperguy 2015-01-03
Here in Canada, the proles have started a Facebook petition because "Tim Horton's" is dropping "Tim Bits" (mini donut rounds). Yes, social activism is alive and well here in the great white North.
Royalty paedophile rings, torture reports, rights eroding, etc. rarely catch anyone's attention, but don't fuck with our iconic donut store's menu. /s
2 VancouverSucks 2015-01-03
Yup.
5 s70n3834r 2015-01-03
They break certain things during the holiday season for a reason; the G20 bail-in requirement for example.
3 spiltmonkeez 2015-01-03
The Prince Andrew story is picking up attention now and is bring discussed. If there is evidence, and it comes out, then this will be huge.
3 watersign 2015-01-03
its amazing how someone whose extremely rich can be "gifted" 3 12 year old french girls but an 18 year old kid banging a 17 yr old is at risk for jail time.
1 Americandreamin 2015-01-03
Not just jail time but then they'll have to register for the sex offender list, which means a lifetime of living in remote places where there are no schools, neighbors with kids, you know, what normal towns have.
2 watersign 2015-01-03
yeah exactly...def a 2 class system we live in.
1 DakuenjeruX 2015-01-03
this rustles me greatly
2 DerpSherpa 2015-01-03
My SO who is not at all conspiracy-minded like I am, even commented strongly out of the blue yesterday how ISIS just disappeared from the media radar.
8 throwaweight7 2015-01-03
Tell your SO ISIL changed it's name and is going through a rebranding but will be back in the news cycle in time for the 2016 general election.
2 alertedcitizen 2015-01-03
Nope. I'm not concerned about a Satanic pedo brotherhood, sworn into lies, running our intel services. Why should anyone worry?
2 Americandreamin 2015-01-03
I think most people already assumed these things to be true. Torture is by no means a new subject in American political discourse and well, nothing in the UK will beat Jimmy Saville. Britons are under no illusion that their superiors are a bunch of perverts. The fact that those who encouraged torture in the states will never be prosecuted and most of the people involved in the UK scandal are dead or ancient means there never will be true justice. Its more a feeling of disillusionment than anything else.
2 DoublePlusGoodly 2015-01-03
I was just at a get together with a bunch of conspiracy theorists on New Years, and I was amazed how quickly I shut down conversations when I mentioned the recent pedophile sex ring accusations and revalations. People who were happy to discuss alien abduction, monetary theory, reptilians, GMOs or just about any other offbeat topic were taken aback by the fact that I raised the elite pedophile topic. Many of them were unaware of recent allegations, and those who were aware dismissed the topic because there had not been proof in a court of law.
I think the topic is just too horrific for most people to contemplate. They shut down and dismiss it rather than attempt to research or delve into the victims stories or all of the whistleblowers who have spoken out. And, who can really blame them? Have you ever really delved into the topic and done some reading from alleged victims? That shit is horrific. HORRIFIC.
I think the tendency to be repulsed by the subject matter is a major stumbling block to raising mass awareness. People don't want to know the details. I'm not sure how. that can be countered.
1 [deleted] 2015-01-03
yea its awful, I would have talked to you about it though. I would have said, "yea I have been following that case and crossing my fingers that it may be the start of some unraveling and possible a domino effect. These people have exceptionally vicious methods to keep themselves so negatively charged, fucking filthy Luciferians. I wish I could step up in front of them with a katana and slice their throats. But I like your shirt, where did you get it?"
1 funkarama 2015-01-03
Rich and famous people are also subject to attack thru false allegations. It is not a cut and dried matter.
1 88x3 2015-01-03
It's okay. Kanye released a song about his baby and it's Kim Kardashians favorite song ever.
1 destraht 2015-01-03
I think that there needs to be a public easily recognizable distinction between someone accussed (and inevitably convincted) of looking at some normall styled naked pictures of smoking hot 14-16 year olds and someone who is diddling some prepubscent girl. They aren't even closed to the same level of badness. It would help unmuddy the waters, ease up on some people who just strayed a bit (these girls are fertile after all and its natural to be somewhat attracted) and make it more apparent who the real sickos are. Otherwise we're talking about the full Fed camp of letter agencies going full bore on a more hapless and naive suspect like my friend to get an easy conviction and the full fucking works of everything while evil politicians and nasty people get strangely enough some benefit of the doubt because they are all thrown into that same pile.
3 DakuenjeruX 2015-01-03
you're not helping, like at all
1 destraht 2015-01-03
Sure well bust all of them proportionally but having someone who looked at some pictures of 15 year old young women should not be confusable with someone who tortured and molested little prepubscent girls. There needs to be a new word for someone who fucked up but is not a demon. Its like calling murder and a bloody nose punch the same word.
1 winsomecowboy 2015-01-03
In my opinion somewhere round 2002 there was a change. Before that Newspapers were trusted because they employed journalists, with degrees, who had systematic applied credibility built into their work in principle. The internet gutted or streamlined newspapers. Now with WMD and currently Nth Korea hacking as abject embarrassments re objective journalism it's obvious reality is an elastic construct as never before and rationally there is no-one apart from friends and family that should be held as trustworthy. We live in a hollow hall of media mirrors.
1 OWNtheNWO 2015-01-03
I tried to post twice MSN reporting on Prince Andrew being named in a child sex lawsuit here in the U.S., apparently /r/conspiracy is more concerned about important things like a bunch of plebbit meta shit. Plebbit is dead morons, stop trying to save it, milk what you can out of subs like this and move on when they destroy it completely.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/prince-andrew-named-in-us-lawsuit-over-underage-sex-allegations/ar-BBhrzse
1 BinLeenk 2015-01-03
just wait...
the tide is turning.
1 umatbru 2015-01-03
They're still talking about the paedophile ring.
3 putin_hates_cats 2015-01-03
Do you understand the concept of degrees?
To what degree was The Interview North Korea hack discussed?
Now to what degree was the UK Paedophile Ring discussed?
1 watersign 2015-01-03
i wonder why the MSM is throwing these people under the bus all the sudden...
1 FickleZizekian 2015-01-03
Society of the spectacle
1 BadgerGecko 2015-01-03
One big concern you missed out that is not getting much press even here is TTIP.
The extreme porn ban didn't really get into the news cycle that i noticed
1 Ago_Solvo 2015-01-03
You sound like a conspiracy theorist to me. What torture report? What pedophile ring? You obviously aren't paying attention to important issues in the United States that go no where, like the NYPD and Eric Garner, and the now open assassinations and ambushes of police officers nationwide to distract you. Interesting how we were warned this would be coming months, and even a year or 2 ago, and now it's happening...but it isn't terrorists like we were told it would be (unless you're trying to convince authority figures like the police that the terrorists are the people...).
1 funkarama 2015-01-03
They control the media, so they can use it to misdirect when unfortunate information surfaces outside of their control.
0 godiebiel 2015-01-03
Well the attention span of most people is as short as a pigeon's, but I do believe on MSM it is getting enough attention.
Then of course those who actually support torture, don't care about what is happening abroad, are too concerned about the Kardashians or any other shit like that.
0 oblivioustoobvious 2015-01-03
The distraction can be for a month (MH370) and still not be cared about when another is found.
It is scary. The attention span of the masses is scary.
0 -3E- 2015-01-03
People love a good sex scandal. I'd not be surprised if the TPTB threw this in for fun to show they can distory anyone with a simple news story.
1 godiebiel 2015-01-03
Sex scandal !!!
Are you retarded or brainwashed !! These are CHILDREN ENSLAVED AND RAPED !!
A sex scandal was if I fucked you. But powerful men colluding to rape children and undermine justice is not a sex scandal.
Fuck off imbecile.
-3 throwaweight7 2015-01-03
So you realized 99% of people will buy anything the government and media tells them and that the government and media are shoveling horse shit 24/7.
Everyone here knows that and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Start thinking of ways to make money with this knowledge.
1 chuckbeezy 2015-01-03
This is the mind set I battle with often! I'm aware of the problems but they seem so grand scale. What can I do kind of feeling you know? Then I think, how can I benefit from such a system? Would making profit make me just as bad as the power-holders in place? Goodluck with your journey, and thanks for the post!