Don't forget the Pineal gland where it accumulates also gets disrupted in its ability to control your sleep wake cycle and hormone balance.

"The Hypothalmic-Pituitary-Adrenal (HPA) axis – The pineal gland, through its production of melatonin and its effect on serotonin, affects many neuroendocrine functions. Reduced melatonin, through various pathways, disrupts cortisol rhythms, and significantly impairs the sensitivity of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis. As well, one study has shown a reciprocal relationship between the pineal and pituitary gland, so that if the pineal is impaired, it affects the pituitary. This has a whole cascade of effects on the other glands and hormone production" Anything that disrupts the pineal is going to affect the HPTA axis and your hormones. Wonder why people are suffering low testosterone and are unwilling to resist domination? There you go.

Fluoride accumulation

How do you reverse effects?

Reduce intake from showers, drinking water, fruit juices etc. Use magnesium oil transdermally and get plenty of iodine. That is all I have been able to find outside sunlight being able to help calcium metabolism.

There is some interesting information regarding Tumeric mitigating and reversing the effects of fluoride

I don't think it's possible to "decalcify" a pineal gland, as it naturally calcifies over your lifespan regardless.

There are plenty of people on Youtube who claim they can do it, but I doubt they have any proof of that from having performed autopsies, etc.

Downvoters are butthurt.

Ostensibly chlorella is used as a treatment for skeletal fluorosis or so I have read in the past because of how it bonds to F on a molecular level. I was unable to find a real study which can prove or disprove this or how/if it relates to the pineal gland, so I can't downvote you just for being a healthy skeptic.

chlorella

Thanks. I'd not heard of this before, so just looked it up. It has so many benefits listed for it that it makes me suspect it actually does very little, except make money for dietary supplement companies.

I'm not a big believer in superfoods. There seems to be hundreds of them now, and they all "cure everything". Too much hype for me.

I agree with you on "superfoods" every week or so I seem to learn about another one, and even if there is some truth to them, as you allude nothing is a cure-all. Here's a bit of anecdotal evidence from my own experience. I'm sure you have heard the musings of some who claim fluoride calcifies the pineal gland, which is difficult to prove short of an autopsy. I purchased chlorella and spurlina powder last year after reading about their "superfood" status but only mixed both a handful of times because they taste so terribly even when diluted in a smoothie. About five or six months ago I read an article claiming a Chinese study shows chlorella was used as a treatment for skeletal flurosis which reignited my interest in it. I for a few days in a row mixed this awful tasting stuff with distilled water, cacao powder, and chocolate whey powder in an effort to help with the taste and by day three I started having the most vivid and lifelike dreams. I honestly cannot tell you the last time I had such dreams prior to that, and since then I notice after a chlorella mix (veggie smoothie, or the mix I described) I seem to have dreams of some kind, whereas normally they are far more infrequent. There is something to it but I'm not 100% sure what it is.

Not only is fluoride inherently bad for health in the high doses that people are consuming today, but it also displaces iodine in the body. People are already deficient in iodine and the fluoride just destroys the body's natural hormonal balance.

When I first took a iodine supplement, just a few drops of lugol's solution, I got an almost immediate felling of euphoria.

whoa

Is this the same solution?

http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/review/product/list/id/34/

Also, it was the 70's and 80's when high fructose corn syrup started finding its way into everything. I think there's something there too.

HFCS is also being used as a sinister agent to delivery Mercury in small quantities over time.

Per WaPo:

MONDAY, Jan. 26 (HealthDay News) -- Almost half of tested samples of commercial high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) contained mercury, which was also found in nearly a third of 55 popular brand-name food and beverage products where HFCS is the first- or second-highest labeled ingredient, according to two new U.S. studies.

HFCS has replaced sugar as the sweetener in many beverages and foods such as breads, cereals, breakfast bars, lunch meats, yogurts, soups and condiments. On average, Americans consume about 12 teaspoons per day of HFCS, but teens and other high consumers can take in 80 percent more HFCS than average.

"Mercury is toxic in all its forms. Given how much high-fructose corn syrup is consumed by children, it could be a significant additional source of mercury never before considered. We are calling for immediate changes by industry and the [U.S. Food and Drug Administration] to help stop this avoidable mercury contamination of the food supply," the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy's Dr. David Wallinga, a co-author of both studies, said in a prepared statement.

In the first study, published in current issue of Environmental Health, researchers found detectable levels of mercury in nine of 20 samples of commercial HFCS.

And in the second study, the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy (IATP), a non-profit watchdog group, found that nearly one in three of 55 brand-name foods contained mercury. The chemical was found most commonly in HFCS-containing dairy products, dressings and condiments.

But an organization representing the refiners is disputing the results published in Environmental Health.

"This study appears to be based on outdated information of dubious significance," said Audrae Erickson, president of the Corn Refiners Association, in a statement. "Our industry has used mercury-free versions of the two re-agents mentioned in the study, hydrochloric acid and caustic soda, for several years. These mercury-free re-agents perform important functions, including adjusting pH balances."

However, the IATP told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that four plants in Georgia, Tennessee, Ohio and West Virginia still use "mercury-cell" technology that can lead to contamination.

IATP's Ben Lilliston also told HealthDay that the Environmental Health findings were based on information gathered by the FDA in 2005.

And the group's own study, while not peer-reviewed, was based on products "bought off the shelf in the autumn of 2008," Lilliston added.

The use of mercury-contaminated caustic soda in the production of HFCS is common. The contamination occurs when mercury cells are used to produce caustic soda.

"The bad news is that nobody knows whether or not their soda or snack food contains HFCS made from ingredients like caustic soda contaminated with mercury. The good news is that mercury-free HFCS ingredients exist. Food companies just need a good push to only use those ingredients," Wallinga said in his prepared statement.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/26/AR2009012601831.html

Number five on the list behind As, Cs, Po, and Pu.

"The poisonous qualities of mercury have long been known about thanks to the self-sacrifice made by early dentists and hatters – apparently the phrase “mad as a hatter” comes from the fact that mercury was used in hat making resulting in high levels of dementia.

One of the things that makes mercury dangerous is it can be absorbed through the skin. In addition mercury also evaporates quickly making inhalation a real danger. Another worrying feature of mercury is its ability to build up in the food chain, particularly seafood. This is because evaporated mercury eventually ends up in the sea or lakes.

The most noticeable effects of mercury poisoning are neurological. All the senses may be effected, along with coordination and muscle strength. Memory is also likely to be affected.

Sufficient doses of mercury are likely to be fatal as Emperor Qin Shi Huang of China found out when he took several pills intended to give him eternal life!"

http://www.planetdeadly.com/nature/10-dangerous-chemical-elements

Started iodine supplements since I have hashimotos. Been eating eat only organic in hopes of controlling my thyroid symptoms. Going great so far. Doctor says they think if you get your iodine levels up that you won't need thyroid medicine. Did a iodine study took an iodine tablet and then collected urine for 24 hours. Results said I should take it. But I know with hashimotos it sometimes hyper and others hypo.I stayed hypo before taking thyroid meds. And I only feel better when my tsh is near zero. But now with iodine I can tell my thyroid is off from the symptoms I experience. So going back for blood work to see if I can stop my cocktail of thyroid meds. Cytomel, tirosent and armour... Its the only combo I found where I felt half way decent. But again with hashimotos what works one year may not work the next.

Interesting. I did a lot of research on iodine supplements when my mother was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and found that this one seems to be the best on the market. It's not made from seaweed/kelp (which may now be contaminated with Fukushima radiation) and isn't in an alcohol base (vegetable glycerin, instead).

I started taking it with her about a year ago with dramatic results. Within about a month she was almost 100% better. For me, the "detox period" lasted about 5 days and was really uncomfortable. I had terrible mind fog and couldn't sleep as my body was kicking out the fluoride, bromine and chlorine. After a week or so, I felt amazing. I could almost feel my IQ increasing, and I felt physically younger. In hindsight, I realize that's how most people should feel. It's only because of these toxins that I had become used to feeling like crap all the time.

No exaggeration, nascent iodine has changed my life for the better. People really should try it if they haven't already. Especially those of us in fluoridated communities.

I have an awful time when I try to take it with bromine headaches. Was there anything that helped or you just dealt with it?

Are you saying that you get awful headaches when you supplement with nascent iodine that your attribute to bromine in you system?

Nascent messed me up to the point I thought I was dying (three drops by mistake instead of two, 600mcg or thereabouts total at once). Lugol's solution is the way to go, IMO (note: Lugol's is not a brand its a type of formulation developed by Dr. Lugol).

Thanks I'm ordering that supplement now.

Anything is better than feeling like you been hit by a freight train

Thank you for posting this. I've been looking around for an iodine supplement after reading about ketogenic diets for seizures. I discovered the information fed to the public about general health is insane. No salt, no fat... and yet we are the fattest and sickest we've ever been.

The longest lived people in the world primarily eat starch.

I have reduced my TPOAb drastically on John McDougall's diet, but am still missing something, I have never taken hormones and still am not 100%. Thinking about iodine supps even though all the big pharma sponsored studies say iodine makes Hashimotos worse. I've been in iodine restriction actually for a year and notice my thyroid getting larger. I was exposed to high amounts of fluoride as a child. How is the iodine experiment going g in your case /u/Digital?

I know the effects are probably subtle and cumulative but I want to hear from people who cut fluoride out of their water and what changes they found in their health/life. Is it worth going through the trouble to get unfluoridated water?

I don't think cutting out fluoride from water is enough. You'll probably absorb at least a half milligram per day from using toothpaste, even more from certain foods. But, it is a lot cheaper than most people think. A decent water distiller is about 200 bucks, but costs only cents to produce a gallon (it really depends on how much you pay for electricity in your area, but it's cheap.) That is much cheaper than buying gallon jugs of distilled water, or any kind of water. If you're paranoid about distilled water being bad for you, you could use cochydro like I do. I also use it to make a lot of teas, but DO NOT drink black/green tea. Those contain so much fluoride.

To answer your question, I wouldn't know. My mother gave us spring water as kids, and I've always used distilled water. Fluoride also isn't the only thing you need to worry about in tap water, but I'll save that for another post I suppose.

I feel like my thinking is more clear and I have more vivid dreams. I haven't noticed any other benefits, but it's hard to say. I've been drinking distilled water for a very long time.

Lynne Farrow (The Iodine Crisis) interview with Deanna Spingola

http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/5z08nvgy1p/Spingola.Speaks.2014.12.28.mp3

Halogen facts from another thread I wrote:

Iodine is a touchy subject among some medical professionals if one does enough research. The only thing seem to be agreed upon is it is an important trace element and prevents goiter, the dosing amounts or how it should be distributed to the populace are usually subject to debate.

Regarding getting the RDA prescribed by NIH via salt in the diet, per Harvard:

"Most Americans take in more sodium than they need. Almost all of it comes from salt. But here's the rub: between 75% and 90% of sodium in the average American's diet comes from prepared or processed food, and most food companies don't use iodized salt. The so-called hidden salt in processed food is a great place to start trimming sodium from your diet, and cutting back on it will have little effect on your iodine intake.

To get all your iodine from salt, you would need more than half a teaspoon of iodized salt a day. That's two-thirds of the daily allotment of sodium (1,500 milligrams) recommended by the American Heart Association."

http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletters/Harvard_Heart_Letter/2011/June/cut-salt-it-wont-affect-your-iodine-intake

WebMD adds: "Iodized salt is now the main source of iodine in the American diet, but only about 20% of the salt Americans eat contains the micronutrient, Dasgupta says." "Dasgupta and colleagues recently tested 88 samples of iodized salt and found that 47 of them, or 53%, did not meet the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's recommendations for iodine levels. Iodine levels tended to decrease in individual containers with exposure to humidity, but light and heat had little effect. The findings are published in the latest online issue of the American Chemical Society journal Environmental Science and Technology." "Iodine is important in the production of thyroid hormones and critical to normal brain development in newborn infants and children. Iodine deficiency is the leading preventable cause of cretinism in the developing world. And at least one study suggests that children in developed countries born to iodine-deficient moms may have an increased risk of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)."

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20080201/can-us-shake-iodine-deficiency-risk

Thus, many Americans may be iodine deficient if they expect to get their RDA in their diets through iodized salt alone.

I'm prepared to be wrong but all of the halogens have antibacterial properties from what I can remember.

Per NIH: "Although very high levels of fluoride (0.16-0.3 mol/L) will kill bacteria, there is little evidence that fluoride causes dramatic changes in the number of species found in plaque or their relative concentrations."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2179326

So it can kill bacteria in the proper concentrations but there remains little evidence it affects changes in the number of species or concentrations of plaque. Ha.

I'm more concerned about the long con of dumping a neurotoxin into the water supply at 0.8-1.2mg/g with no recourse by the citizenry while NOT also including cheap benign vitamins such as C even at a similar low dosage.

"“Fluoride seems to fit in with lead, mercury, and other poisons that cause chemical brain drain,” Grandjean says. “The effect of each toxicant may seem small, but the combined damage on a population scale can be serious, especially because the brain power of the next generation is crucial to all of us.”"

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-childrens-health-grandjean-choi/ I also love this:

"People with levels between normal levels and those required for skeletal fluorosis tend to have symptoms similar to arthritis.[1]" So somewhere between something which previously only existed in certain parts of nature -so normal being none excluding outliers- and severe being skeletal fluorosis, one might suffer from symptoms of arthritis. They are all but saying fluoride tends to cause arthritis symptoms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halogen

EDIT: I was in another thread which led me to a paper: "Curcumin attenuates neurotoxicity induced by fluoride: An in vivo evidence". Evidently mice were dosed with F (120 ppm) daily for 30 days and then treated with Curcumin. The reason I include this here is because this is further proof fluoride is a known neurotoxin to science but sure we'll dose you nearly a mg/gal every day for your whole life you'll be fine, right?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3969660/

oh yeah, and the iodized salt that they sell has no iodine in it. even if it did, its not a high enough dose anyway. iodine sublimates rapidly out of the salt when exposed to the atmosphere.

I use dulce flakes and eggs for iodine.

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How about...oh I donno...SUGAR??

You think I don't believe sugar contributes to obesity? Of course I do. I'm pointing out the other major cause, a perfect storm attack on the metabolism of the entire country.