Why should we believe a random submission without a source? I'm not saying that you're automatically a liar but I don't see any reason to automatically believe either.
I admitted in my post I don't have a source. I can't have one if they don't exist yet. Just wait until tomorrow and you'll know whether I'm lying or not.
OP is making multiple claims without backing up any of it, only after being called out for lack of evidence does the OP backtrack. Not only that, none of this even begins to touch on a conspiracy. If you're going to make a conspiracy post, point to a conspiracy and at least add some supportive evidence.
Yer right, I got confused between two people. Reddit used to only make OPs name in blue highlights, now I have RES and it makes whoever has messaged me highlited in blue and it confuses me.
Let me lend a little support with this story from r/worldnews. It's still being treated as an unconfirmed rumor. But the story itself seems legitimate.
But obviously OP doesn't have the information about when he died. The point of his post is that all signs point to them telling the world he died within the next few days.
He has been dead for well over 2 weeks. I am amazed they waited this long to release the information.
As soon as relations normalized I figured he would be dead. Some old men really don't let go and he is one them, his rivalry and hard headed unforgietful nature is legendary.
Potential conspiracy angle. US government unwilling, or unable to normalize relations with Cuba because of a small group of wealthy, politically influential exiles still living in Florida.
To me, it seems plausible that some sort of deal was made. Political support in exchange for an economic embargo that would only end once Castro had died. It is possible that US-Cuban relations just happened to normalize at the same time as Castro's passing. But, as usual, it's probably not a coincidence.
So it's a conspiracy every time a famous old person dies? Or is it just a conspiracy because he was anti-US? Castro is 88, the Cuban life expectancy is 79 and the highest in the world is only 85. Really, it's more of a conspiracy as to how all these people (Castro/Mandela/Il/Bin Laden) live as long as they do.
Yes, it would be more believable that the Cuban gov reached out after his death, giving the US incentive to show an opening in policy. He had one foot already in the grave, zero reason to think his other foot needed that extra push.
Potential conspiracy angle. US government unwilling, or unable to normalize relations with Cuba because of a small group of wealthy, politically influential exiles still living in Florida.
To me, it seems plausible that some sort of deal was made. Political support in exchange for an economic embargo that would only end once Castro had died. It is possible that US-Cuban relations just happened to normalize at the same time as Castro's passing. But, as usual, it's probably not a coincidence.
91 comments
14 jddreamer 2015-01-09
http://en.mediamass.net/people/fidel-castro/deathhoax.html
Was curious, did a search and found this
0 BadgerGecko 2015-01-09
No proof in the article you posted though
4 jddreamer 2015-01-09
Wasn't trying to prove anything, just contributing information.
13 oblivioustoobvious 2015-01-09
Why should we believe a random submission without a source? I'm not saying that you're automatically a liar but I don't see any reason to automatically believe either.
I guess just take note and we'll see in time.
Edit: Tagging /u/rept4rzilla as a liar.
6 comewhatagain 2015-01-09
Tomorrow we'll see if this guy can be trusted or not.
-2 lakdaddy 2015-01-09
This.
3 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
I admitted in my post I don't have a source. I can't have one if they don't exist yet. Just wait until tomorrow and you'll know whether I'm lying or not.
6 oblivioustoobvious 2015-01-09
How did you get this "breaking inside info" then?
2 MathW 2015-01-09
Facebook apparently.
-11 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
ppl close to the castro circle
2 oblivioustoobvious 2015-01-09
And you know them how?
-20 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
that's a question you can think about on your own.
3 oblivioustoobvious 2015-01-09
I'm just seeing how far you're willing to go.
I realize that if you were actually being honest here that it would be stupid to reveal such information.
I'm still obviously not convinced but figured I'd see where this could lead.
You could be truthful. You could be a troll. Either way see ya in 24 hours.
-6 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
Have some faith, if i'm wrong, then in 24 hours i will own up to my claim.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2015-01-09
I'm not a fan of having faith personally.
-7 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
update: cuba national guard has been called in to guard castro's mausoleum
0 [deleted] 2015-01-09
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1 Siex 2015-01-09
Embarrassing...
2 MSSTUDEN 2015-01-09
I guess it time for you to own up to your failure. Right?
1 mudslag 2015-01-09
So how about owning up to your claim OP???
3 Takeme2yourleader 2015-01-09
You're goddamn right I will. I'll also hound your account with 100 throwaway accounts calling you out with my bullshit flag raising.
0 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
just the kind of redditors we need around here
3 mudslag 2015-01-09
You mean like the type of redditors that go around making claims without providing source material?
3 junkeee999 2015-01-09
If they readily admit they don't have a source and advise people to believe it or not, I see nothing wrong with it.
3 mudslag 2015-01-09
OP is making multiple claims without backing up any of it, only after being called out for lack of evidence does the OP backtrack. Not only that, none of this even begins to touch on a conspiracy. If you're going to make a conspiracy post, point to a conspiracy and at least add some supportive evidence.
1 Takeme2yourleader 2015-01-09
People forget the definition of conspiracy and somehow it got confused with the act of something strange and secretive.
1 singlebro 2015-01-09
No source or won't disclose source. Quite different. One I call you full of shit, the other I wait a day and maybe call you full of shit.
1 Takeme2yourleader 2015-01-09
I prefer both.
2 singlebro 2015-01-09
Still waiting.
1 Takeme2yourleader 2015-01-09
Don't hold your breathe buddy. You really think it'll be actually 24 hours when the news breaks of this big lie?
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2 Takeme2yourleader 2015-01-09
I didn't claim it fool. They OP did. Are you even reading this thread.
1 singlebro 2015-01-09
Yer right, I got confused between two people. Reddit used to only make OPs name in blue highlights, now I have RES and it makes whoever has messaged me highlited in blue and it confuses me.
2 Takeme2yourleader 2015-01-09
For God sakes man!! Don't delete the comment!
1 singlebro 2015-01-09
I just apologized for mistaking you for someone else. Relax.
1 Takeme2yourleader 2015-01-09
Haha. I meant to come off as standing by the Comment. It was on r/funny a while agi
1 OB1_kenobi 2015-01-09
Let me lend a little support with this story from r/worldnews. It's still being treated as an unconfirmed rumor. But the story itself seems legitimate.
0 [deleted] 2015-01-09
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3 putin_hates_cats 2015-01-09
Posted 1 year ago.
Stop upvoting this.
10 MSSTUDEN 2015-01-09
Think I'll wait 24 hours before I decide to up or down vote. No offense.
9 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
none taken, stay informed, brother.
1 MSSTUDEN 2015-01-09
24 hours and a down vote it shall be! Guess the only conspiracy left is if you are going to man up to your failure. Well are you?
1 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
Yes. I apologize for jumping the gun. I was wrong.
8 userofplebbit 2015-01-09
He was right!! (probably)
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2pqoun/fidel_castro_has_been_dead_for_a_week_they_will/
2 pigly_two 2015-01-09
This guy says Fidel died a month ago. OP says he just died.
At least one of them is talking out their ass.
2 putin_hates_cats 2015-01-09
No, neither one of them is "talking out of their ass".
A prediction was made about a month ago and it appears to be coming true.
All this post says is that Castro is dead and they are going to release it to the world soon.
These two posts do not disagree with each other.
-2 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
possible he died a month ago, but cuban officials claiming "just now"
0 mudslag 2015-01-09
Technically you're claiming now via your thread title.
2 putin_hates_cats 2015-01-09
But obviously OP doesn't have the information about when he died. The point of his post is that all signs point to them telling the world he died within the next few days.
-2 oblivioustoobvious 2015-01-09
And the OP's story unravels.
7 liverstealer 2015-01-09
Fidel Castro Odinga of Kenya died a few days ago. Either there's been some sort of misunderstanding or this is one hell of a coincidence.
https://mpasho.co.ke/2015/01/things-didnt-know-late-fidel-castro-odinga/
7 Bill_Cosbys_Penis 2015-01-09
why do you think the US just announce the new Cuba policies?
4 Tacitus-OZ 2015-01-09
He has been dead for well over 2 weeks. I am amazed they waited this long to release the information.
As soon as relations normalized I figured he would be dead. Some old men really don't let go and he is one them, his rivalry and hard headed unforgietful nature is legendary.
7 OB1_kenobi 2015-01-09
Potential conspiracy angle. US government unwilling, or unable to normalize relations with Cuba because of a small group of wealthy, politically influential exiles still living in Florida.
To me, it seems plausible that some sort of deal was made. Political support in exchange for an economic embargo that would only end once Castro had died. It is possible that US-Cuban relations just happened to normalize at the same time as Castro's passing. But, as usual, it's probably not a coincidence.
3 f3rn4ndrum5 2015-01-09
surely he has a +1up under his bed.
2 reputable_opinion 2015-01-09
I feel the disturbance in the force
0 toneii 2015-01-09
Me too, it was a difficult day. Is this why?
4 pigly_two 2015-01-09
But if this is fake, does that mean that you're responsible for your own shitty day?
3 oblivioustoobvious 2015-01-09
No. It means that /u/toneii has to find a different reason to confirm his/her beliefs.
0 toneii 2015-01-09
You're off the mark. It would mean considering another explanation, that's far from a reason to confirm my beliefs.
2 celocanth13 2015-01-09
Even if this is true, how is it a conspiracy? Castro is pretty old.
1 putin_hates_cats 2015-01-09
Stop being a "whats the conspiracy" nazi.
This info is relevant to the sub. Get over it.
0 celocanth13 2015-01-09
So it's a conspiracy every time a famous old person dies? Or is it just a conspiracy because he was anti-US? Castro is 88, the Cuban life expectancy is 79 and the highest in the world is only 85. Really, it's more of a conspiracy as to how all these people (Castro/Mandela/Il/Bin Laden) live as long as they do.
1 putin_hates_cats 2015-01-09
Right, so its just a coincidence that US-Cuba relations were recently a huge story in the news and then this death happens. (if it does happen)
1 celocanth13 2015-01-09
He was still alive when we started repairing relations and as far as we know he's still alive now.
1 sprtn11715 2015-01-09
Right, but you asked what the conspiracy was, not what everybody is reporting
-9 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
do you think he died from natural causes? coincidentally 1 month after US announces improved relations
17 pigly_two 2015-01-09
why don't you ask your inner circle and tell us?
-17 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
sorry, thought that answer was painfully obvious. in the event you can't keep up, i'm not going to spoon feed you conclusions.
11 userofplebbit 2015-01-09
But the guy had one foot in the grave. He was bound to die any time now. I expected him to die last year.
-12 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
i'm not stating anything is true/false, i'm reporting what i know and providing my opinion. the rest is up to you
3 reddbullish 2015-01-09
Hmm.
Interesting thought.
But i dont know why anyone would need him out of the way . Wasnt he very old and out of the government?
1 celocanth13 2015-01-09
He is 88 and hasn't exactly had an easy life, it's not unreasonable for him to have just died of old age.
1 reddbullish 2015-01-09
That was my thought as well.
2 mudslag 2015-01-09
Yes, it would be more believable that the Cuban gov reached out after his death, giving the US incentive to show an opening in policy. He had one foot already in the grave, zero reason to think his other foot needed that extra push.
1 Thementalrapist 2015-01-09
They've been trying to kill that fucker for years and failed, they obviously just let Father Time do his thing.
1 bitcloud 2015-01-09
Coincidentally some arbitrary time after something tangentially related to the US government occurred.
1 zenicaone 2015-01-09
also he was/is very old (?)
2 [deleted] 2015-01-09
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2 RyanOnymous 2015-01-09
January 9, 2014
-1 ENYAY7 2015-01-09
Dammit
-1 -p-h-i-l-i-p-p-e- 2015-01-09
This needs to be upvoted.
1 celocanth13 2015-01-09
No it doesn't, look at the date on the article.
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1 Myfourcats1 2015-01-09
Here's something. http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=2368629&CategoryId=14510
1 Kaisernegro 2015-01-09
Wow... this was predicted a while ago. wonder if i can find it...
1 delelles 2015-01-09
Hundreds mourn the 'death' of Fidel Castro after rumours sweep Twitter
1 dawn913 2015-01-09
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2903312/Hundreds-mourn-death-Fidel-Castro-rumours-sweep-Twitter-confusing-recently-departed-Fidel-Castro-Odinga-Nairobi.html
1 skywalkerr 2015-01-09
Rumors are rumors not the bullshit "truth" your spreading or guessing.
1 thoughtsandplots 2015-01-09
3 hours to go or did you retract?
1 oblivioustoobvious 2015-01-09
Well it looks like you're a troll.
1 thoughtsandplots 2015-01-09
Hey faker.
1 mudslag 2015-01-09
Well over 24 hours and still nothing about his death.
0 ragingfuzz 2015-01-09
How do you know?
-3 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
ppl close to the castro circle
3 ragingfuzz 2015-01-09
Well if its true, we need an ama after this turns out to be something real. Cool, u/rept4rzilla?
-2 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
sure
1 mudslag 2015-01-09
Clearly not as close as you would like to believe.
-1 pigly_two 2015-01-09
Huh. TIL he's not already dead..guess i forgot about him after he stepped down.
1 ides-of-march2 2015-01-09
http://gifsoup.com/view/2275906/fidel-castro-fall.html%2020/
1 pigly_two 2015-01-09
that's gotta be the most high profile face plant i've ever seen
-1 userofplebbit 2015-01-09
All hail the prophet rept4rzilla
10 JBSLB 2015-01-09
1 rept4rzilla 2015-01-09
please hail my 10 commandments
2-10. see number 1
1 singlebro 2015-01-09
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article8978120.html
Hail deez nuts
-1 youfuckingslaves 2015-01-09
http://mobile.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/entertainment/artikel.php?ID=341837
Bye bye Castro /s
-1 s70n3834r 2015-01-09
I doubt it, as we've been here so many times before; but one day it will be true. And God help Cuba when it is.
-1 ridestraight 2015-01-09
The freedom of Cuba is at hand!
His near future demise was telegraphed just mere days ago.
I'm shocked! I tell you! I'm shocked!
7 OB1_kenobi 2015-01-09
Potential conspiracy angle. US government unwilling, or unable to normalize relations with Cuba because of a small group of wealthy, politically influential exiles still living in Florida.
To me, it seems plausible that some sort of deal was made. Political support in exchange for an economic embargo that would only end once Castro had died. It is possible that US-Cuban relations just happened to normalize at the same time as Castro's passing. But, as usual, it's probably not a coincidence.
1 celocanth13 2015-01-09
He was still alive when we started repairing relations and as far as we know he's still alive now.
2 Takeme2yourleader 2015-01-09
For God sakes man!! Don't delete the comment!