Evolution is a fraud
0 2015-01-17 by iowntheuniverse
It was propagated and designed to separate and distract you from the true creator and to maintain a state of ignorance.
The ones who are and were responsible for this know this true greater architect.
49 comments
6 Rockran 2015-01-17
You're referring to the Flying Spaghetti Monster as the true creator, right?
3 I_Like_Spaghetti 2015-01-17
Yum!
-6 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
What an obtuse comment. Suffer in your ignorance.
3 Rockran 2015-01-17
What a..cute reply.
May the FSM extend a noodly appendage to you in your times of need.
-7 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
Where have I ever made a comment about noodly appendage or whatever meatball spaghetti monser? Thanks for mixing a credible supposition with such not credible. Great tactic.
2 Rockran 2015-01-17
How did you know the great FSM consists of meatballs?
It appears you already have knowledge of the great one or you enquired into his greatness.
May your future research lead you on a long and enjoyable voyage full of carbohydrates and proteins.
RAmen.
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1 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
“When a great genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign; that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
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1 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
Sorry for calling you stupid dude. I was joking.
0 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
Insolent swine, you and the other hooligan were the ones having fun about some spaghetti caricature without meaningfully contributing to the discussion. That should be called smearing shit all over.
As for other, must you be spoonfed everything? Can you not understand? If you can't then you should not be in this discussion.
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1 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
Thanks
0 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
Because the caricature you are referring to has two meatballs in it, you utter dolt.
You make reference to something and you don't even know what it is.
2 Irradiance 2015-01-17
Even if there is a greater mystery or whatever regarding the origin of species, it can't really be denied that evolution is real. I mean, you can observe it yourself with a petri dish and some antibiotic agar.
Even if there is a god, deity, or whatever other super-advanced being pulling some strings that we're unaware of, it doesn't invalidate the observation that lifeforms adapt to their surroundings.
What do you think when you see a big pair of tits? God made them? No, we made them by liking them. Maybe god made us like them. Fair enough, but the mechanism by which they are produced is still congruent with the theory of evolution.
0 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
Finally, a post worth replying to.
My personal belief is that it was created (through a creator and not the conventional creator, maybe something which humans cannot fathom) through a mechanism similar to darwinism.
1 Irradiance 2015-01-17
Well, my personal hypothesis involves an almost infinite multiverse where all creatures, once reaching a point where sexual selection plays a role, leads to arbitrary evolutionary paths that seek differentiation and increased awareness.
The will of "God" in terms of whatever it is that furnishes us with our self awareness, is to only "see" the forms that manifest the expression of its (God's) will. This current reality appears to be the unlikely path taken by evolution on Earth because it is here that God's "attention" is focused.
So, it's a mixture of evolutionary forces guided by the mathematical and statistical rules of reality meeting the will of the "creator" to observe this particular manifestation of that process.
2 orrery 2015-01-17
The Astrobiological Theory of Evolutionary Metamorphosis shows that Earth was seeded with DNA and that the Tree of Life unfolds in a systematic fashion much like how the caterpillar becomes a butterfly.
http://youtube.com/?#/watch?v=9EZyFzkUC4c
/debate
1 robaco 2015-01-17
Is this godlikeproductions.com?
1 Rontagosh 2015-01-17
You should get in touch with a microbiologist, or anyone educated, or a book that explains evolution. Hope you're kidding.
-7 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
It's a theory. It also started at an interesting point in time, if you happen to look at the historical context.
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-5 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
I am a neuroscientist. I have sufficient knowledge on evolution. Do you know about evolution? Maybe you need to google it and come back. Thanks for your insightful argument.
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-4 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
How am I flashing my ignorance? Maybe you do not have the capability of sufficiently comprehending such theory and cannot form a logical rebuttal, therefore you resort to "projection", if you know what that means.
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-1 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
Do you know what a theory is?
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0 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
Has the evolution of humans been proven?
Can we repeatedly observe and experiment with humans through the ages?
That is not a fact. Please be reasonable.
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1 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
What game am I playing? I am only quoting your definition of "scientific theory"
This is quite laughable. Who it is denied by, is your opinion and brings subjectivity and the possibility of being erroneous when you imprudently state looking at motive first when dealing with any argument. Such statement is very unanalytical.
I would say, back before the 4th century BC, people would have told someone preaching the earth is round as being extremely ignorant.
Can artifacts and genetic evidence prove human evolution?
I heartily laugh at you. Thank you for that.
1 BingoRage 2015-01-17
In addition to the wonderful responses of InternetPropagandist; I would like to add mine, here.
Evolution does not have to be "proven" separately in the human case. Either it is or it isn't. Since you demand change that can be seen over generations, there are more than sufficient evidences from experiments in bacterial lines to demonstrate the mechanics of evolution: mutation, adaptation, population change.
As for human experimentation, "we" do not need to do anything of the sort, if you demand it. Nature has already done that dirty work for us: - the human lineage was struck by the drying of Africa and retreat of the great intercontinental forest millions of years ago. Our ancestors responded by leaving the trees and taking to the savannah; apes recede from most of asia and europe. Recent analysis of the ardipithecus skeleton shows that our ancestors walked upright much earlier than had been believed. - the human lineage is struck by an ice age and a population diverges from a common ancestor that specialises in colder climate and close quarter hunting of megafauna. Dna evidence shows that we crossbred with this ancestor, but they still went extinct. - The human lineage is struck by a supervolcano 70 000 years ago. Mitochondrial DNA evidence suggests that humans were reduced to a population of a few thousand; the oldest strains traced to the hunter-gatherers of the Kalahari. - The human lineage is struck by an asteroid strike that kills our neighbours, the dinosaurs, about 65 million years ago. Size, metabolism, fur-bearing and burrow-dwelling are some of the facts that allow us to survive. No photographs, but we have a good description of gramps. -etc.
1 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
Who said anything about evolution needing to be proven separately? If you read the body of the post then you should ascertain that this is referring humans. Please do catch up.
Again, I do not demand anything of bacteria. This post concerns evolution with respect to humankind. Do not go about posting something based on a title.
1 BingoRage 2015-01-17
IP is rigt. You play games. You make demands for one thing, then claim to be asking something else.
1 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
'IP is always right' because you cannot come up with anything else. Read the post and make a connection with your brain, if I am not being too optimistic.
“A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.”
1 Rontagosh 2015-01-17
And it's been thoroughly debunked. Not sure if one can call it a theory at this point, seeing how theories require rationalization.
-5 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
There's a theory against a theory of evolution, that has been debunked? Good one.
2 Rontagosh 2015-01-17
Yes, and the theory for evolution being a scientific one. There's a key difference. You're just trolling and making the conspiracy sub reddit look bad, aren't you?
-2 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
What's your point? Both theories have been debunked, OK.
1 Rontagosh 2015-01-17
The scientific theory for evolution has not been debunked....lol. My point was: the 'theory' that evolution is false has been debunked by the scientific theory supporting evolution.
-2 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
Source.
1 Rontagosh 2015-01-17
Seriously? Find and read the theory yourself. There are so many ways to access it freely. The wonderful thing about science, is that you are encouraged to test the theory to be wrong. Please do; you'll win a Nobel prize or whatever.
-2 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
Source on the ridiculous theory that has been debunked (most likely by paid researchers on an agend) you are talking about you tool.
1 Rontagosh 2015-01-17
You're the one who posted about it, lol. It's either your 'theory' or you read it somewhere. Anyone is welcome to test the theory of evolution, not just paid researchers...lol, where do you get this stuff?!
1 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
lol, I posted about a theory? idiot.
1 Rontagosh 2015-01-17
You're theory is your subject, so yes. This sub Reddit is about conspiracy theories after all. Look, you're the one distracted here, and you need to question more important things like "Is there an economic Reich attempting to subtly enslave humanity, and have they done so already?". Study science on the side dude; it'll help you figure technicalities out. Saying evolution is a fraud is on or near the same level of stupidity as flat-earthers. Good luck.
1 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
Your not you're
You said that the theory against the theory in evolution has been debunked. I asked you what theory you are referring to. You then said my theory. This shows that you cannot render a logical basis of argument.
If you think that such supposition is stupid, then that is fine. People accepted that the earth flat as certainty as well. People also accepted that AIDS could be solved by having intercourse with virgins as certainty as well. If you think such belief is ludicrous, that is fine, but please do not taint it and allow people to observe, analyze and derive their own conclusions.
1 Rontagosh 2015-01-17
Yes, I had a grammar error; I probably have many. 2 is correct. As for 3, I suggested studying the theory and testing it for yourself. It's observable for fucks sake. Somehow that's tainting something or not allowing someone to derive their own conclusions (lol?). It's safe to say you are stupid, and that is closer to a fact than an insult. Evolution is not a certainty (after all, absolutism is foolish), but it's damn likely, and it's currently not being disproven. On flat-eathers: I was referring to those who still believe in it, regardless of debunking (which is similar to those that deny evolution without any understanding of the knowledge of it).
1 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
I am grateful that you admitted you cannot make sense of anything.
Secondly, are you saying the theory of evolution is observable?
Thirdly, if someone that admits that he cannot make sense of anything, calls someone else stupid, then I shall rest my case as such act would be a compliment.
1 Rontagosh 2015-01-17
I can make sense of some things. Not sure where you got that conclusion (that I can't). Evolution is observable and testable, yes. I can't waste any more time on this; you should know what you need to do by now.
0 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
Read my reply and then yours and you will understand, (hopefully), where I got that from.
Goodbye, sad to say I wasted my time.
1 Rontagosh 2015-01-17
I truely hope you don't vote or breed.
1 iowntheuniverse 2015-01-17
Well maybe I would say the same to you or, maybe I would say 'evolution' works out and someone as foolish and incompetent as you would forfeit your ability to breed so I don't have to say it. Ha.
This is seriously the first time I have ever heard someone tell me to test out human evolution myself.
You, with you imprudence and ineptitude, must be evidence natural selection doesn't exist.
1 no1113 2015-01-17
No it's not. It's just significantly more complicated than the mainstream makes it out to be.
1 orrery 2015-01-17
Oh and Darwin plagiarized A.R. Wallace
0 GORE69 2015-01-17
If you believe science or religion can explain our existence. Your a fool. If you want to push your beliefs on to other people with hatred or sarcasm. No matter what your intentions you are evil.
-2 BingoRage 2015-01-17
ha ha
1 BingoRage 2015-01-17
In addition to the wonderful responses of InternetPropagandist; I would like to add mine, here.
Evolution does not have to be "proven" separately in the human case. Either it is or it isn't. Since you demand change that can be seen over generations, there are more than sufficient evidences from experiments in bacterial lines to demonstrate the mechanics of evolution: mutation, adaptation, population change.
As for human experimentation, "we" do not need to do anything of the sort, if you demand it. Nature has already done that dirty work for us: - the human lineage was struck by the drying of Africa and retreat of the great intercontinental forest millions of years ago. Our ancestors responded by leaving the trees and taking to the savannah; apes recede from most of asia and europe. Recent analysis of the ardipithecus skeleton shows that our ancestors walked upright much earlier than had been believed. - the human lineage is struck by an ice age and a population diverges from a common ancestor that specialises in colder climate and close quarter hunting of megafauna. Dna evidence shows that we crossbred with this ancestor, but they still went extinct. - The human lineage is struck by a supervolcano 70 000 years ago. Mitochondrial DNA evidence suggests that humans were reduced to a population of a few thousand; the oldest strains traced to the hunter-gatherers of the Kalahari. - The human lineage is struck by an asteroid strike that kills our neighbours, the dinosaurs, about 65 million years ago. Size, metabolism, fur-bearing and burrow-dwelling are some of the facts that allow us to survive. No photographs, but we have a good description of gramps. -etc.