Why am I not surprised, especially after the fact he and his family were murdered, especially after getting $30 million to make it? I reeks of a conspiracy to me. I was definitely looking forward to this coming out.

I was watching the rough cut movie that was 2.5 hours and needed to refresh the page do to service problems and then all of a sudden it was removed. The whole murder-suicide seems fishy to me. Neighbors didn't hear anything, no one missed the family for weeks.

You make a good point, usually you hear gunshots there pretty loud. Any one know the firearm used?

I don't think they said, they said the found guns in the house, but since he was ex-military, it is not unusual to have guns in the house. I'm sure they won't say if one of his guns was the murder weapon or not

Hmmm interesting. Either way gun may it be a 22. Or not is still pretty loud to the average ear.

Yeah, I have shot a .22 and it still was loud enough to hear next door.

What is the source for receiving $30 million? Thanks.

According to his friend, musician Jordan Page, "The film was about to start production with a $30 million budget from a major Hollywood studio." The comment is from the January 18 post about the deaths here.

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The documentary and the concept trailer that the fiction movie would have been based upon are two different projects entirely. In reading the comments, many people seem to be confused about this.

Ohh, ok. thank you.

http://www.policestateusa.com/2015/gray-state-suicide/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veEONs44rhM

You can view the rough cut here:

http://vimeo.com/117322702

It's been taken down.

try this one then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvhZU_wI4SE

This one is gone now too.

well... fuck.... i still have it halfway paused on my other tab and it's still playing i guess bc it was already loaded. i wouldnt know how to record the last half. the girl who uploaded it mentions in the description that he was dead. i wonder if the makers are paranoid and want to make sure they take down all copies, but since when did youtube respond so quickly?

heres another i just found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veEONs44rhM

shit - i hope some people got it downloaded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veEONs44rhM

Alex jones and his many supporters in the documentary part of this movie, isint that lovely. Also for those that dont know, there is an agenda behind this movie as most of the actors/guests found in the documentary part all support anarcho-capitalism, it is the underlying idea they are promoting which is nothing but a ghost chase. Anarcho-capislism inevitably turns right back into crony capitalism, in fact anarcho-capitalism might even be worse then what we have now if it were to be adopted. (unregulated big corporations, no health / bioengineering regulations, complete private security for only those with the money that can afford it with no civil servants otherwise, a society run by mafia's in the open, economic model that would propel the increase of consumptions, more extreme versions of planned obsolescence with little to no recourse, society literally run by oligarchs and greed for uncontrolled profiteering).

aynarcho capitalism is neo-feudalism in an edgy package. Koch funded right wing libertarians whose political ideology starts and stops with economy. The less redneck more tech savvy tea partiers.

This post needs more attention.

Seriously, wake up. You're doing what they want. Remember, question everything.

im glad you said this. ive only made it halfway through but it just wasn't completly settling with me and it felt off. you really summed it up.

heres a new link: http://youtu.be/0H8bk4NWpLY

What is the story with this? The creator was murdered?

Him, his wife and 5 year old daughter where found dead by a neighbor after packages and mail started to pile up after a couple weeks. The police call it a murder-suicide.

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/27887965/mystery-surrounds-purported-murder-suicide-that-claimed-lives-of-apple-valley-family

"The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension and the Dakota County Sheriff’s Office are assisting with the investigation, and told the Daily Mail that they are treating the death as “suspicious.”

Because it is!

Wow. That's crazy. I'm going to watch the rough cut later. Whats it about?

The rough cut is for "Gray State: The Rise," not the fictional 'Gray State' movie he did a concept trailer for that had just gotten 30 million in funding from a major Hollywood studio according to his good friend Jordan Page. Two very different projects.

Has anyone been able to find the rough cut movie anywhere? Everything turned up empty for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veEONs44rhM

working link to a mirror? lots of people must have downloaded it.

http://youtu.be/0H8bk4NWpLY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veEONs44rhM someone needs to make a mirror if it hasnt been done already.

thanks, downloading now.

concept trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy7FVXERKFE&list=WL&index=9

I have it downloaded. Where is the best and most secure place to upload it?

It is up on youtube for the time being, the link is in the edit2 at the top

mega.co.nz

Can you please upload and reply? It seems to have disappeared from most of the net.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veEONs44rhM

Here come the endless links and viral marketing campaign...

People just don't realize they're doing what they want. Question everything.

See you later, then!

I don't think they said, they said the found guns in the house, but since he was ex-military, it is not unusual to have guns in the house. I'm sure they won't say if one of his guns was the murder weapon or not