Kaballah: Anyone into?
0 2015-02-09 by hbonfatti
I think I'll start some "know your enemy" research, so I decided to study myself some kaballah. It looks very interesting, since it evolves math, which I think is the language of nature. Someone know some good links in that field for beginners? Or do you simple dismiss it as a satanic thing?
28 comments
3 4to6 2015-02-09
Save yourself a lot of confusion and get straight at the beginning the difference between what is sometimes called the Western Kabbalah, and the actual Jewish mystical Kabbalah.
The Jewish Kabbalah is a system of mysticism used by Jews for many centuries, mainly for religious purposes. The Western Kabbalah is a system of magic used mainly by non-Jews over the past century or so for occult purposes.
Neither one of them are Satanic or evil. At their center, they involve a kind of revisionist re-examination of verses in the Torah to extract a deeper mystical meaning from them.
There is an element of practical magic in Jewish Kabbalah, but the rabbis like to keep it under their little hats for the most part. They won't talk about it with non-Jews or with Jews who are not students of the Kabbalah. Jews doing Kabbalah do it mainly for mystical and religious reasons, and when they do it for magical reasons, they keep quiet about it.
Westerners, on the other hand, have integrated Kabbalah into Western occultism as a whole. Western Kabbalah is centered mainly around the ten emanations of God with which he created the world from himself in ten successive stages. These are rather rigidly codified in Western magic in a single diagram known as the Tree of Life. This diagram is derived from Jewish Kabbalah, but it has been transformed into something in Western magic that traditional Jewish Kabbalists would not recognize as valid.
2 Alcorr 2015-02-09
Definitely not a "satanic thing."
But, you'd find better info at /r/occult than here, most people here simply don't know about it or assume it's satanic which is actually hilarious if you understand how it works.
It's ritualistic magic along the same vein as freemasonry. Go over to /r/occult and ask them.
1 Scientologist2a 2015-02-09
not quite, although there is a mystical element involved with attaining enhanced communication with the divine through the proper use of ritual, etc.
essential the use of ritual magic for religious purposes.
as well as straight up symbolic mysticism
1 Alcorr 2015-02-09
How so?
You're typing without really saying anything.
1 Scientologist2a 2015-02-09
There is literally a body of ritual magic whose purpose is communication with the angels, and ultimately, god.
This exists.
There are also a collection of various mystical practices whose intention is the same.
In this case we are talking about rituals whose purpose is not personal power, but what is considered personal salvation.
This is part of the kaballah.
2 whipnil 2015-02-09
Check out r/holofractal. The Kaballah comes up a lot in the geometry of Nassim's theory.
2 LetsHackReality 2015-02-09
Yep and there some startling implications. For one, it's almost certain that there was at least one civilization more advanced than us many thousand years ago. And that TPTB have kept this advanced knowledge to themselves all this time, using it to their advantage.
2 star_particles 2015-02-09
Can u give a quick summery?
1 zipperlt 2015-02-09
Or just everything you know?
2 star_particles 2015-02-09
Reminds me of the movie pi. Spelt with the symbol. Anyone seen. It's great movie
2 hbonfatti 2015-02-09
I've seem it. Amazing movie indeed.
2 materhern 2015-02-09
Great movie. Highly recommend it. Haven't seen it in years though. Might be time to find it again.
1 star_particles 2015-02-09
Esp with the Hebrew in it it really reminds me of the kabballah
2 youfuckingslaves 2015-02-09
It's basically the same principle most people cannot accept or understand and that is we are god or source or all that is or eternal being incarnating on this planet. It is intentionally misleading and complex. The concept even understood intellectually is pointless unless you have an experience that provides "proof", deep meditation, near death experience, DMT, ETC...
1 hbonfatti 2015-02-09
A "friend of a friend of mine" have done DMT. It's a really changing experience, you kind of experience another realm of reality. But "he" said he don't consider it as a proof of the existence of God. The experience is very real, but some dreams are very real too, so... anyway, "he" recommends it a try for anyone seeking some truth, since you really feels as there is something more than this physical realm, and this feeling is worthy itself.
1 zipperlt 2015-02-09
Ding Ding Ding Ding!
In dreams, we relax and let go of our physical anchor to this reality and experience another one.
1 hbonfatti 2015-02-09
Yeah, that is some plausible theory, but a hard one to prove by scientific methods. But I guess sometimes we have to believe in ours guesses and experiences, because science don't reach all the areas of knowledge we have.
1 youfuckingslaves 2015-02-09
It's noteworthy to have mentioned that I have watched many NDE-ERS and the experience was parallel in many ways. I knew everything yet that was not as miraculous as a being of my power that could project him or herself to a finite flawed human being for the experience of limitation.
2 quantumcipher 2015-02-09
There's nothing inherently Satanic about the Kabbalah. It's a Jewish form of Mysticism, that has exerted (varying degrees of) influence over magick and esotericism over the centuries, perhaps millennia.
I would recommend the following, however from a neutral rather than adversarial perspective:
Hermetic Kabbalah - Introduction
Kabbalah, Magic & the Great Work of Self Transformation: A Complete Course
The Doctrine and Literature of the Kabalah by Arthur Edward Waite
1 migueltronix 2015-02-09
Its not a satanic thing its just Jewish mystism. Don't know what maths has to do with it.
3 quantumcipher 2015-02-09
The kabbalah (among other forms of mysticism) has had an undeniably profound influence on the hermetic arts over the centuries, from theurgy to goetia, in ritual magic from the middle ages to the present day, in a fair amount of the symbolism found in the contemporary initiatory orders we see today (e.g. Rosicrucianism, Freemasonry & the O.T.O., for example), and of course as seen in the amalgamation of Hermetic Qabalah.
1 Scientologist2a 2015-02-09
In some ancient languages the letters also double as numbers, notably greek and hebrew, among others.
This leads to elaborate thinking looking for religious insights hidden in religious texts based on the numerical associations of different words
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_numerals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_numerals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria
1 justabondservant 2015-02-09
Rabbis typically warn practitioners of Judaism to avoid it until you reach age 40 because of the possibility of going insane.
1 4to6 2015-02-09
Any form of intense mystical practice carries the danger of insanity along with it. It's part of the ride.
1 IlluminatedSnickers 2015-02-09
Look into hermetic teachings and alchemy friend. Predates Kaballah.
1 wakeuphisnameisYahsh 2015-02-09
It is Satanism and if you like I'll exsplain why.
1 hbonfatti 2015-02-09
of course I'd like to
1 wakeuphisnameisYahsh 2015-02-09
Its a ritual based system, which in this dispinsation all ritual based systems are carnal spirituality which is AntiYahshuan. Beyond that its a ritual based system created by the same people who killed the prophets and crucified Yahshua. Beyond that Yahweh has already shown explained the mysteries Romans 1:19-21, All that which may be known of Yahweh for his supernal nature to his eternal Glory, has been made manifest within them, so that man is without excuse. Interesting to note also Yahshua told them himself and who he told this to is important because he was speaking to kaballists "You search the scriptures and think yee have found life but you know not the scriptures speak of me". If someone's going to argue the point, bring up spiritual points not carnal understanding, this is a spiritual subject.
1 4to6 2015-02-09
Any form of intense mystical practice carries the danger of insanity along with it. It's part of the ride.