Why the hell is the Prime Minister of Israel allowed to address the U.S. Congress? Is that normal? Do other countries regularly address the U.S. Congress?

186  2015-03-03 by [deleted]

I get that TPTB own our politicians, but how is this not outright treason?

Treason: Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

These guys are allowing a foreign prime minister to have the national spotlight. Everything Netanyahu says is being absorbed by the U.S. corporate media. Why does it seem like Iran is being silenced here? Everything I know about Iran tells me that they want peace and to avoid another Iraq. Thoughts?

Edit: "Not just any foreign leader either, one that brags about how easy it is to manipulate the United States into doing what he wants and how he wants to make life unbearable for Palestinians so that they leave their homes for other countries."

I just found a video someone posted on Netanyahu saying that he knows how easily it is to manipulate the United States. http://youtu.be/sDORGC7sXng?t=1m

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He owns the U.S. Congress. Israel and Zionism owns America. That's why.

I hear this claim get thrown around here a lot, but I haven't read enough to form an educated opinion on the matter.

Do you have any links that could enlighten me?

You want some REAL information? Then you need to take the time and read.

http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/dp/0374531501

Start there. Its written by the 2 most prominent political theorists of our generation. Waltz and Mearsh have added more to political theory together than all of the other political theorists combined IMO.

These two are not 'conspiracy theorists' - they are acclaimed professors of political theory. Renowned in every respect. They wrote about the "Israeli Lobby" and its impact on US foreign relations. Its an unprecedented amount of support. I know it sounds weird to say "Zionism owns America" but to someone who is IGNORant (not a jab at you, its just the reality) it sounds strange. When you start reading about Zionism/Israel/Jews and their political impact on American foreign relations, every action you see witnessed on your TV or articles you read make contextual sense.

If you actually want knowledge, and not just facts you can peddle but not backup, then by all means go Google away. If you want a grounded understanding of how Israel buttfucks Americans so openly, start with the book.

This is exactly the type of source I was looking for. Thank you very much, can't wait to bury myself in it... hoping its on libgen...

Do give it a read if you're truly interested; by all means, if it is going to be a chore to read then don't bother. There are many many more aspects to 'conspiracy thought' that are well worth a read. Israel is just one of many issues people take head on.

And btw, fuck anyone who downvoted you for asking a damn question. Nothing pisses me off more than someone asking a legitimate question. You did not approach it sarcastically or nefariously. Not that karma matters at all in anything ever, but if you were to be downvoted anymore other people would dismiss your post or might not be able to view it at all.

Damnit guys, stop downvoting people who want more information... that is the scummiest move I can think of besides shilling for a government.

You need to study forum disruption techniques. And stop paying attention to votes here. Delete the -4s in your Preferences to show all posts.

I think people might be a little jaded to questions, because some people use them to cast doubt where it isn't needed.

Or the vote fuzzying thing like the guy below me said.

I think it's important to look at both sides of the coin. Is it a coincidence? Are they just really savvy? Are they trying to help? How? Why would we be so involved with such a small country? Look for precedents and correlations with other non-jewish countries like Yugoslavia for example. Why did we go to war with them instead of make them our ally? What happened to spark the war? What were the events leading up to it? Who exactly did we support and why?

What I'm saying is that you should question everything no matter what you believe. The world used to be flat until people questioned their own beliefs. Once you've questioned all the details, you won't be able to draw a conclusion because it will draw itself.

I made a promise to myself that I'll no longer debate racy subjects with anyone that's not messaging privately or standing in front of me due to the relentless attacking not on the debated subject, but rather my character. When I see these comment patterns, they're always the same, I know I've stated something true that others want buried into the ground and never spoken of again. I don't do much with what I've learned as I believe knowledge is it's own reward. I'd love to know without a doubt the answers to questions that plague us just to know the truth, no matter if it supports my opinion or refutes it. Good luck on your search.

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Edit: we = United States

Thank you for this extremely valuable information. I do intend to follow up on the book and sources you suggest.

Just replying so I can save this link and comment lol

Do a Google search for zionist-owned and operated businesses in the United States - hell, in the world. You'll find they control almost all of the MSM here and have the government in their pocket.

You'll find they control almost all of the MSM here and have the government in their pocket.

Six Jewish corporations control 96% of the world's MSM.

That's even worse than I remember. Damn. Gotta cross post this to the kid I initially answered above.

How are they Jewish?

“You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America. In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…”

  • Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache

That quote has been debunked and originated on a Pakistani website. Totally fabricated, scripted bullshit.

Edit: Tzipora Manache is a fake person that doesn't exist and the alleged quote originated on a site that contained a virus. And just to add insult to injury even the racists have also said this isn't true. Way to spread misinformation.

Quite the coincidence that this 'fabricated bulls*it' so aptly summarizes the Israeli PM's sentiment:

Netanyahu: America is something that you can easily maneuver and move in the right direction. And even if they do say something, so then they say something... so what? 80% of Americans support us! It's absurd!'...

It's disinformation when it's intentional :)

Who is this person and when/where did they say this?

Also, I'm not sure how or why some of these companies are listed as being "Jewish" beyond the fact that there are some Jews in high positions. They're really grasping at straws. Its like the article said: Is the founder Jewish? If not is the president Jewish? If not is the vice-president Jewish? If not is the director of marketing Jewish? If not is there someone in the mailroom thats Jewish? And then just worked there way down and found a Jew so that they could call it a Jewish company.

Sony for example is a Japanese company yet its listed as being Jewish? Oh thats because apparently the Michael Schulhof, who runs Sony Corporation of America, and Alan Levine, who runs their picture division, are Jews. Well actually those aren't quite true either. A quick google search will reveal that Michael Schulhof was only CEO from 93-95 and Alan Levine was CEO from 94-96. So the two year stints of these guys forever made the company Jewish? Do you actually read the crap you post?

Chronic naysayers gonna say 'n***h'.

Do what u gotta do~

Lol what a funny response. I point out factually and logically problematic shit with the stuff you post and instead of defending it you accuse me of being paid to write it. You can't even tell the difference between someone pushing an Israeli agenda and someone who dislikes stupidity. Search my history and see if you can find a single instance of me defending Israel. You won't.

Lol what a funny response.

Haha! Thanks. Glad you were entertained.

Yeah, it was a good laugh. Its unfortunate that there might be people on this sub that instead of laughing will might make the same mistake you did and eat up unsourced quotes from made up apparently non-existent people and won't have the wherewithal to do a quick google search to find out the shit you linked was factually and logically incorrect. Have fun spreading bullshit that you're not even willing to defend.

  • Do you actually read the crap you post?

  • I point out factually and logically problematic shit with the stuff you post

  • Have fun spreading bullshit that you're not even willing to defend.

Calm down. I'm not here to quarrel.

Despite your less-than-courteous implications, the errors were not deliberate. I may have been hasty with the initial post, and had you been the least bit civil I would have removed it after acknowledging your correction. However, I do not respond well to cyber hostility such as you're spreading and apparently attempting to provoke.

The data in the infographic is admittedly dated, yet the gist conveyed contains relevance with regards to forces controlling global media. Names of some players may have changed, but the game remains the same.

First off, when you post really poorly written articles with bad information that implies that because companies have Jews in top level positions that they are going to spread misinformation and push a pro-Zionist agenda you're going to upset a few people. This is like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion 2.0 and to be fair, your response indicates that you did not (critically) read the article you posted. Second, if you want to talk about rudeness I would say that trying to nullify someone's opinion by imply they are paid to have it is much ruder than using a few bad words. Not to mention this was after I spent the time to do a little research and you simply responded by laughing, the aforementioned accusation, and posting a video of a horse. Are you going to be pretend that you did not do that to be flippant and dismissive?

Guilty as charged. I've yet to foster an immunity that would bestow upon me sufficient strength to resist provocative cyber hostility such as you lobbed my way. Unfortunately, I am still, on occasion, wont to reciprocate in kind to malice. The disappointment I have for my lack of restraint when confronted with sudden unprovoked ill will is considerable.

Cheers~

At least the pot is admitting he's black too. Have a good day.

He? Black?

W/e...

Farewell~

He?

I just use he rather than she as a default since most redditors are men and saying "he/she" can be a pain in the butt. Sorry if I assumed incorrectly.

Black?

The pot calling the kettle black. You called me out for being rude and then acknowledged you're also being rude.

Farewell~

I thought you said farewell earlier.

When pro-Israelis say, Amnesty is funded by Arabs so it is bound to be biased against Israel, you are not supposed to say that most of the media companies are owned by Jewish people because that would be anti-semitic.

Personally, i dont give a shit if the owners are jewish or not. Some Jewish people, e.g. George Soros, are anti-Israel. But its fucked up that people dont see through this hypocrisy.

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You left out the fact that they stole our nuclear technology as well.

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One of the reasons they killed JFK they had many more.

Yep this is a totally undisputed true fact.

regarding how BB owns the US Congress

I hear this claim get thrown around here a lot

Any single person standing against this would be 'wished into the corn field' the following day by the Ziomedia. It would constitute an immediate END to the dissenter's political career, absolutely without doubt over and done. This really should go without saying.

" I bet your gonna say the Holocaust didn't happen either. What other kind of Conspiracies do you have under your tinfoil hat? Aliens exist?!? Nazi sympathizer!" - anyone in MSM

This is what you'll get if you mess with Zionism or Israel, it's sad...

That or they reply to your non-911 comment with "jet fuel" comments. It's completely absurd.

This is what you get for posting in this sub on the regular as well.

More useful idiots are born every day.

Don't believe it? Just ask Helen Thomas.

Israelis are allowed to be American Politicians.

I think it's more like the US, Saudi Arabia, and Israel all have the same goals.

The US wants to eliminate oil competition in the region because the US has a ton of money invested in Saudi oil. Saudi is in it for the same reason. That's why Iraq and Iran are are targets.

Israel was created and backed to provide easy access into Saudi Arabia if something should threaten those oil interests. If the region stabilizes, Israel's existence will not longer be something the US oil industry will care about. If Saudi Arabia has to compete in the free market, it'll be the same thing for them. So Saudi Arabia and Israel want to keep the US involved in the region.

In addition to that, the military industrial complex wants to keep war going anywhere it can. More guns sold to the US army, the Israelis, and the Saudis. The Saudis easily throw money at radical groups that they bring up by funding mosques in war torn regions, throwing fuel on the flames of angry orphaned teenagers and young men in the region.

This makes weapons high demand for the Saudis and Israelis, and soon the US (I'm calling it now, next US president will be Republican and will go full scale invasion in Syria or Iraq).

Also AIPEC can pay congress to do whatever they want.

Lastly, the regions of Iraq/Iran, Syria, and Egypt have historically been a huge breeding ground for intellectualism and tolerance in the Muslim world. They are historically very diverse and tolerant populations, that if left to stabilize, would explode into a golden age in the region.

Can't have any of that. Especially if a stable Democracy was Shi'a. Even Bush said it. Democracy will spread. if Democracy is stabilized in the region, it'll spread, and take out the Saudi Royal family, and force Israel to be a democracy for everyone, not just European Jews.

I think it's more like the US, Saudi Arabia, and Israel all have the same goals.

Wouldn’t disagree with certain aspects of that.

Israel was created and backed to provide easy access into Saudi Arabia if something should threaten those oil interests.

I’d say it was created for a lot more reasons than that, but I would imagine that what you state here was certainly one significant benefit that came out of it - yes.

If the region stabilizes, Israel's existence will not longer be something the US oil industry will care about.

Would not disagree with that.

If Saudi Arabia has to compete in the free market, it'll be the same thing for them. So Saudi Arabia and Israel want to keep the US involved in the region.

Not a horrible dot-connection you did here, sir.

Reading the rest of what you stated, I must say that this was a very cogent, level-headed, intelligent summation of the dynamic. Very well-done, sir.

Not much I can disagree with in what you said.

Cheers,

bingo, can we close the 395,949 posts in this sub dating back some 10+ years?

BLARP! BLARP!

He owns the U.S. Congress. Israel and Zionism owns America. That's why.

no, you mongoloid wag the dog believer/lacky/fanatic, it's because Israel is the 53rd US state and it exists in and controls the middle east - and acts as out outpost in the last part of the world(the arabian peninsula) which is not totally controlled by the western world already culturally / financially / militarily / legally(though that's in the process of happening and has been for decades since the US first started invading and occupying the nations there).

A little bit of literacy would help you greatly - especially if you're trying to put someone down. It makes your attempts at doing so just a little less ironic. Regardless, what little I was actually able to understand of your illiterate scramble doesn't actually seem to be in diametrical opposition to anything I already stated. Ultimately, try to remember the following: Punctuation is your friend.

tl;cr: Learn to read and write. Here. This should help.

His punctuation may be bad but your grammar is bad. 4 sentences = 4 separate paragraphs? Like really?

Put them all into one paragraph for you. Feel better?

Not really. Jumping to grammar nazi in an online forum usually means you are losing the argument/too lazy to make a counter argument.

Regardless of whatever it "usually" means, what my previous "grammar nazi" statement actually meant was what I actually said. Additionally, within the context of what I said, I also directly addressed the previous poster's overall point. Considering this, therefore, it would seem that you've ultimately made no real point whatsoever. It's further irony, then, that you not only didn't realize that I actually DID address the previous poster's point, but that you yourself actually came on here to be the very "grammar nazi" you took issue with in your initial statement.

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Your insistence on ad hominems makes your tripe reek a bit too badly to bother reading it. Hope you enjoyed typing it all out.

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this is how you step out of the discussion because you aren't really here for that to begin with

Really? I'm not really here for a "discussion"? Is that what you think? You know what I'm not here for? I'm not here to go back and forth with a useless asswipe that began his initial rant with name calling. You've been shut out, son.

That's not "being unwilling to have a discussion". That's "being unwilling to converse with a piece of shit."

Stop acting like a piece of shit and I might actually read past one sentence of what you have to say. Otherwise, keep typing responses that only you will read - cuz I certainly won't.

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yes, really, and all you've done here and continue to attempt to do here is make yourself feel good about...

Sigh. More of the same. lol. Okay, son. Keep on typing. Ain't being read. Hope you're having fun! lol

ad hominems you def don't know how to debate.

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Israel is the 53rd US state.

America only has 50 states to begin with. What are the two before we get to the 53rd?

Why do Americans like Netenyahu but not Putin?

Netenyahu and Israel's policies have consistently pushed the US into war.

Why oppose the dictators of South America, Africa and the Middle-East but pick this one asshole, Netenyahu over other crazy assholes?

He's exploiting America's resources for the gain of his piece of shit country and deserves no support.

His power literally comes from his ability to manipulate the US by way of lobby groups, think tanks and government officials who are more dedicated to that strip of land in the desert than their own country.

You are unsatisfied with the answers given to you by mainstream sources because you're not a donkey. Anyone with a half working brain realizes the inconsistencies in the logic of the American policy creators and Israeli policy creators.

You ask why. You can start by deconstructing all the reasons given to you and start there. Ask yourself why we give unequivocal support. Don't give me that ally bullshit like its a chess game. Really ask.

Why oppose the dictators of South America ...

Excuse me, which dictators are you talking about? There are only some undemocratic tendencies in Central America, but none left in South America. They have republics there and democratic elections with less fraud than in the USA.

Have you ever heard of Venezuela? wtf?

Yes, Venezuela is democratic and officially a federal presidential constitutional republic. They had a lot of poor people (70-80%), mostly indigenous, that came under the bus during the conservatives that exploited the country and had ties to foreign countries. So the biggest profits went to foreigners and a few landlords with ties to them. The poor people are now the basis for the leftist party and the country riches are shared more evenly which stabilizes the country. And because they have big oil reserves they are targeted constantly by the Anglo-American empire that uses every occasion to attack the country and portray it in very bad light. I have no doubt they also organize demonstrations with the opposition, finance quite a few of the TV stations in Venezuela and tried several destabilization attempts.

Nicolás Maduro is President since 14 April 2013 with 50.61% in the democratic election. Some conservative clowns do not like it and depict Venezuela as dictatorship, but that is far from the truth. I know how a dictatorship looks like in South America. Most of the time there was a Coup d´Etat and a military dictatorship was installed with a ruthless leader for live that did not held any elections. Martial law was declared, dissident media silenced or prohibited, dissidents were tortured and disappeared, the police did not pay for their pizzas and the population was living in fear. That is what a dictatorship looks like. Think more of Pinochet. You do not find any of this in Venezuela so please do not spread the Yankee propaganda.

Are you saying that Maduro is not becoming a dictator? Venezuela is already a very authoritarian system, but it's currently in the process of a slow self-coup, of sorts, to cement the power of the chavistas. He has been arresting dozens of opposition party members and even the mayor of Caracas on charges of "conspiracy to overthrow the government", which simply means trying to win a real election. Chavez may have been a better leader, and truly liked, but Maduro is not. He is a wanna-be dictator and he is going to be the downfall of Venezuela. But no, you anti-american circle-jerkers can't see that because it goes against the propaganda you consume.
No one is saying America hasn't been involved in imperial capitalist policies, especially in S. America, but to assert that our opponents are true democracies, or are somehow noble, is naive.

The last dictator of Venezuela was the US backed Marco Perez Jimenez, who was overthrown in 1958.

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/The-End-to-One-Dictatorship-in-Venezuela-20150124-0002.html

The things you pointed out have nothing to do with dictatorship. The President did not call off the elections and he did not declared himself leader for life. His actions are within the consitutional perimeters. After last election there was kind of turbulance and there is no reason to doubt that he has evidence that some "opposition" members commited treason and tried to annulate the democratic results they did not like. And the reason I believe him over the US is that the US was also involved last time in the Coup d'Etat attempt plus that PNAC with its presidential advisors declared Venezuela a geopolitical target. I do not trust the ones who are constantly lying and I give the others the benefit of the doubt.

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised - Chavez: Inside the Coup

You have such a 2D view of the situation. You realize the PNAC crowd is no longer in charge right? We have real elections here. Power is transferred between different groups, peacefully. Venezuela has been controlled by the same group for decades. And when Maduro is recalled in 2016 and he seizes power by force, I'm sure even then you'll deny it and say it's some capitalist plot. He is wildly unpopular. And you think they don't lie? All countries lie and distort the truth. It's politics. Everyone does what's in their own best interest. You've just fallen for the propaganda from other side in your attempts to avoid the American propaganda. Many conspiracists make that mistake, admittedly even myself early on. I'm not into most of the stuff anymore because a lot doesn't hold water, but there are certainly some benefits to the point of view. But this anti-American flavor is idiotic.

Edit: seized to seizes.

You have such a 2D view of the situation. You realize the PNAC crowd is no longer in charge right?

So you think there is no continuaty in the US? You do not seem to follow the left-right paradigm, the military complex, the revolving doors, military continuity programms, lasting goepolitical strategies and the presidential puppets. Brezeinski is an advisor of Obama and his globalist friends are in charge since decades. There is only the illusion that the next party will change something of significance. Geopolitical strategies are not changed each administration.

I am familiar with all of those things. And yes, overall strategies don't change because Americas interests don't change very fast. But the means to achieving those goals do change. There is a dramatic difference between the Bush doctrine and Obama's approach. And what about Brzezinski? He is not an advisor to Obama. He was an advisor under Carter. He's hardly a hawk. He's opposed to a strike on Iran, was opposed to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, as well as being skeptical of the influence the Israel lobby has on the United States foreign policy. And so is Obama. What do you think this Netanyahu political theater is about? Obama is a much different president than our other recent ones. That's an example of a real shift in policy that a president and his administration brings.
I know the military industrial complex is powerful and influential, but not as much in recent years. I also understand the very real revolving door but that's a corruption problem that exists in every government around the world. It's a human-thing. We're kind of corrupt. Sure, some presidents are "puppets", but I don't think so in the way you see it. I think Bush 43 was heavily influenced by Cheney and the PNAC crew. He was very hands off and acted much more like a figure head. Obama has been vastly different. DOD's concern with Obama has been his administrations micromanaging of the military and our foreign policy. He is a very hands on president because he has a vision and doesn't want private forces having all of the reigns. You say nothing changes from administration to administration. Maybe in your lifetime, as a Clinton or Bush baby, sans the last few years, but that's not true on the big scale. The last 70 years have seen huge political shifts from admin to admin, left to right. The last 30 have seen a huge shift to the right, even under Clinton, but that very will likely change as the Y-generation comes of age. There's is no concerted effort to control the world by any one group of people. All we have is a huge number of groups and interests trying to steer policy in their own direction. Its to be expected and, honestly, pretty understandable.
And what is a globalist anyway? I hear that word but fail to get the meaning.

And what is a globalist anyway? I hear that word but fail to get the meaning.

Chavez called them "mundialistas". Alex says it is the NWO. But it is everything connected to the power structure behind the UN. This includes WTO, WHO, IPCC and all the other international, intergovernmental organizations plus all the non-official international groups that influence geopolitics like the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, the Transatlantic Partnerships, CFR, Rotary Clubs and their helping spiritual groups like Masons, P2, Knights of Malta, the occult, AA, Bohemian Grove, Golden Dawn, Rosicrucians, AMORC and many more. Not every member inside these groups knows the connections, but the more you climb the hirarchy the more you have to accept the idea that the best for this world is a united global body, with one religion, one jurisdiction, one system and absolute power for the ruling class. A lot of public figures inside these groups wrote a few books about globalism and praised it as the only way to go. If you follow the money and who was responsible for forming these groups you will see always the same names connected and you will know it is a system that serves them because they designed it that way and secretely controll it in desguise of democratic pseudo structures. The ones who joined because they believed they joined something good are trapped by the worst system ever imagined where no other options are allowed anymore and the monopoly is sacred.

He did change the constitution to eliminate term limits. Alternance in power is one way to keep a democracy healthy.

Have you ever heard of the US State Department's role in destabilizing Venezuela, leading up to the staged coup against democratically elected Chavez?

Sure I have. That doesn't make the Chavista government, as administered by Maduro, a true democracy. It's a fairly authoritarian system with an incredibly corrupt election system. MUCH more corrupt than America's, to put it very mildly. Maduro has been arresting opposition party members and mayors for a while now. He's becoming a true dictator and it's laughable to assert otherwise.

What about corrupt Bolivia or Venezuela?

The old tribes of Europe clump up in groups in the New World and they identity with each other. In Canada there is a large Ukrainian population and they are pushing Canada into a stronger anti-Russian position. Eventually though with all of the other ehtnicities the old blood ties fade away in passing generations but the Jews hold onto this like no other group and then through a variant of their religion they've brainwashed tens of millions of Americans into giving shit about this stereotypical Old World tribal meladrama.

I'm going out on a limb here but in going to say that you have seen a large group of western Ukrainians. There is a vicious bias against anyone who so much as speaks Russian on the west side of Ukraine. Speak to someone from eastern Ukraine and they may like, dislike, or be indifferent toward Russians. My wife is from a small city that borders Donetsk. She's half Russian and half Ukrainian, has lived in both countries, and had introduced me to people from both countries. The regular Joe doesn't really care any more than white and black pepper care about each other. There's more discrimination in some parts than others, just like everywhere else. I also think it's very important to not that Viktor Yanukovich, the ousted president, is from Donetsk. You nailed it with old world tribal *melodrama.

Just to clarify: the US is not opposed to dictators of South America, they oppose to any communist or socialist government of any kind in South America. They put in place the capitalist dictatorships South America had to endure between the 70s and the late 80s.

Yes Operation Gladio and the Strategy of Tension were disgusting but it makes me wonder why Americans don't think their own government will do such things even when they're caught.

They'll point to conspiracies committed by other nations but think that America will never do state sponsored terrorism.

Northwoods, Gladio, Strategy of Tension, Gulf of Tonkin, etc, there's a very long list of heinous American crimes.

Only reason Northwoods didn't happen is because when it reached Kennedy's desk, he vetoed it while practically everyone else approved bombing US cities to blame on Cuba.

They'll point to conspiracies committed by other nations but think that America will never do state sponsored terrorism.

I think the problem is that Americans aren't really in the dark about the government's capacity for such things, but they would LIKE to assume that when their government does do those things, there's a core of logic behind the actions that the American people are being served in the end.

The trick is to get Americans to realize this is very rarely the case, and that their government believes it owns them.

And you know, if the US happens to make a deal here and there with "local entrepreneurs" to make some (lots) of money outside of the purview of the taxpayer, then hey. What's a planeload of product a month between friends?

Because no other nation has as lobby as powerful as AIPAC.

Why do Americans like Netenyahu but not Putin?

Because Americans like who they are told to like. This is clear, just take a look at the celebrity worship that goes on.

That's true. People hate Mel Gibson because it's not cool to like him but love untalented hacks that somehow keep getting top movie roles.

There's blind love for celebrities because people are afraid to not be trendy.

On that note, I think it's the same with vaccines. People don't want the stigma of being an anti-vaxxer. They want to assert that they know better than Jenny McCarthy while pretending to care about other people's children. Anti-vax doesn't mean you're against all vaccines but that's a whole other conversation.

You really think Netanyahu up to this?

Please he is just a pawn. He doesn't even have the capability.

neither does Obama. master of puppets.

Putin doesn't allow Zionists to control its currency so naturally Putin is ridiculed. Same for North Korea, they don't allow Zionists to manipulate their currency. Any South America country that doesn't gets cancer or is killed off.

According to the House of Reps web site:

Only twice have foreign dignitaries addressed a Joint Session of Congress: French Ambassador Andre de Laboulaye (20 May 1934), to mark the centennial of the death of the Marquis de Lafayette, and Cuban Ambassador Guillermo Belt (19 April 1948), to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Cuban independence after the Spanish-American War in 1898.

Did he address a Joint Session of Congress? (I can't easily find the answer to that.)

Is it Constitutional for him to do so? Lets read this from The Washington Post:

Here’s the logic of the “unconstitutional” position: (a) the power to receive ambassadors and public ministers a foritiori includes the power to receive foreign heads of state when they are here on diplomatic business; (b) this power is lodged by Constitution in the executive, and, explicitly given to the executive, Congress can’t exercise it unless at the invitation of the president.

Sounds like Congress done fucked up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_session_of_the_United_States_Congress#Foreign_dignitaries

Foreign heads of state and heads of government from 48 countries have addressed joint meetings of Congress more than a hundred times. Israel and the United Kingdom lead the list with eight joint meeting addresses by heads of state or dignitaries. Other leading countries are: France (7), Mexico (7), Italy (6), Ireland (6), South Korea (6), Germany, including West Germany and unified Germany (5), India (4), Canada (4), Australia (4), Argentina (3), and the Philippines (3). Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu and Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Winston Churchill have each made three joint addresses to Congress, more than any other foreign dignitaries (Netanyahu: 1996[4],2011[5], 2015[6]; Churchill: 1941, 1943, 1952). Prime Minister of Israel Yitzak Rabin addressed joint meetings of Congress on two occasions (1976 and 1994) as did Nelson Mandela of South Africa (1990 and 1994).[7]

Complete list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_joint_sessions_of_the_United_States_Congress

And publicly Obama has been against Netanyahu. I sincerely hope our politicians do the right thing and shut this shit the fuck down. This is a blatant disregard for our Constitution.

Thanks for digging.

That isn't going to happen. Our politicians are either complacent puppets to Israel or dual Israeli citizens.

Exactly. Obama and Netanyahu get on like a Palestinian house on fire.

Where the hell in the constitution does it say that congress isn't allowed to invite foreign dignitaries to speak?

Nobody "fucked up". Netanyahu addressed a joint meeting of congress, just like dozens of foreign heads of state before him.

I thought Churchill addressed a joint session during WWII.

He did not address a joint session.

edit: He did address a joint session

editedit: He did not address a joint session.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi criticized Speaker John Boehner’s decision to invite Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to address a joint session of Congress, saying Thursday that it’s “out of the ordinary” to make such an offer without consulting the other party.

Source: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/nancy-pelosi-netanyahu-visit-john-boehner-114495.html#ixzz3TMZ8NjjR

No, you were right the first time, it was a joint meeting, not a joint session. The House and Senate are in recess for a joint meeting.

I guess she wasn't technically a foreign dignitary, Soong May-ling (Chiang Kai-shek's wife) is listed on wiki as the second woman to address both houses of Congress. And given that this was in 1943, her message was obviously overtly political.

I guess the equivalent of first lady doesn't qualify for foreign dignitary, but diplomat does. I suppose it's the lack of official position despite her likely having much more clout.

The "new" thing about this time is that his invite did not have bipartisan support.

Pelosi faulted House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) for inviting Netanyahu in the first place.

“It is out of the ordinary that the speaker would decide that he would be inviting people to a joint session without any bipartisan consultation,” she said in January. “This presentation will take place within two weeks of the election in Israel, and I don’t think that’s appropriate for any country that the head of state would come here.”

Never thought I'd agree with Pelosi. I should buy a lottery ticket.

I felt the same, I don't trust her for a minute but her reaction (and others) to Netanyahu's speech was refreshing even though it's just political gesturing with no real depth.

no real depth.

Not so certain. Was listening to AM radio and their painting Republicans as pro Israel. Things got humorous when they had to backtrack on Schumer and his anti Israel leanings. IMO, the more the US aligns with factions in Israel the better. We need more sunshine on Likud craziness.

Pelosi's statement:

“The unbreakable bonds between the United States and Israel are rooted in our shared values, our common ideals and mutual interests. Ours is a deep and abiding friendship that will always reach beyond party. Americans stand shoulder to shoulder with the Israeli people. The state of Israel stands as the greatest political achievement of the 20th century, and the United States will always have an unshakable commitment to Israel’s security.

“That is why, as one who values the U.S. – Israel relationship, and loves Israel, I was near tears throughout the Prime Minister’s speech – saddened by the insult to the intelligence of the United States as part of the P5 +1 nations, and saddened by the condescension toward our knowledge of the threat posed by Iran and our broader commitment to preventing nuclear proliferation.

“Today, Prime Minister Netanyahu reiterated something we all agree upon: a nuclear armed Iran is unacceptable to both our countries. We have all said that a bad deal is worse than no deal, and stopping the spread of nuclear weapons is the bedrock of our foreign policy and national security. As President Obama has said consistently, all options are on the table for preventing a nuclear-armed Iran.”

This is why I say, "no real depth".

Regardless of their talking points, the fact remains Democrats stood by our president instead of Israel. For the little knesset, it's a start.

To actually answer your question, it is common for foreign heads of state of close allies to address the US congress. Merkel and Brown both have addressed the US congress over the past few years just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are plenty of others.

It could very well be treason - but that would rest on Boner (yes I know I misspelled his name, he can't even pronounce his own name correctly)

Boner basically avoided the Obama approval. He should be tried for treason - as many other members of congress who facilitated this visit should be.

My real question is why there's nothing about this story towards the top of /News or /WorldNews, and I'm not one to rip inclusion or exclusion from various subs. I just find it very curious that such news isn't a bigger deal. The leader of the nation of Zion literally gave marching orders to the US legislature today, and its like no one noticed.

Well, I found it covered on the front page of nytimes.com and I also posted a link to /r/politics, but it's only gaining lukewarm traction. I think the problem is that people want to be entertained, not informed.

No question, and I'm not suggesting that it's not in the news. It's definitely in the news and all over even our most pathetic tabloid new stations, but the only thing that I saw about it on Reddit at the time were a few links to Fearless Leader Barry's response to the transcript of Zion Lord Bibi's rant to our legislature.

America is 329 years old this year and in that time no other foreign leader has addressed Congress three times. Every other time a foreign leader came it was at the invitation of the President and never to lecture us.

This is an insult of historical nature. To come here and lecture our President on what American foreign policy should be.

I wanted to see this compilation after watching the speech.

It scares me.

It is not treason for Congress to be addressed by foreign leaders. It is just usually not a common practice. Though I cant stand Bib and his rhetoric. Congress allowed other leaders to address America like they did Winston Churchill.

You might note that other countries occasionally also allow our president to address their government assemblies. The treason is politicians accepting bribes from foreign governments.

Normal no longer exists.

That's the "new" normal.

Nancy Pelosi: Netanyahu speech ‘insulting to the intelligence of the United States’

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/nancy-pelosi-benjamin-netanyahu-speech-react-115701.html

Sure it was an insult, but she picked the wrong reasons to point this out. She should have said that his warmonger propaganda is getting old and nobody is buying it anymore.

I guess her hands are tied as anyone in authority has to sign a pro-Israel pledge.

I wonder if it stopped her from giving 24 standing ovations.

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Thanks for calling Repubs on their bullshit. I voted twice for Obama. I'd vote for him again if it were possible.

Merkel did that too not too long ago.

'cuz Bibi got the dirt - imo, he's a war criminal just like the ones here in the US,we pay Israel, Israel pays politicians,

US lawmakers forced to support Israel,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqtmZrrbbL0

The only treason which will get you into trouble these days is against the World Bank. That did not seem to happen here, so Congress is still golden.

OK um where is relevant username /u/MossadOwnsPOTUS on this? Not even an I told you so?

/u/MossadOwnsPOTUS

/u/Flytape had /u/MossadOwnsPOTUS shadowbanned for pointing out to /r/conspiracy that /u/Flytape is jewish and has strong ties to /r/conspiratard (despite the dog and pony show).

Thanks for the update, but only strengthens the case of what we all know already.

Israel is special, because Holocaust. (And because of who donates to political campaigns.)

Just the notion that we have an AIPAC(actually we have 1 in every state) shows you who is control.

Tony Blair (the ex-British Prime Minister) gave a speech in 2003 when accepting the Congressional Medal of Honor.

Far too easy to spot the zioshills in this thread.

It's like a Whack a Mole game right now across the net. lol

obama blew it off. he knows whats going on. nothing of interest was said. it was basically a campaign speech

As numerous commenters under that YouTube video point out, the subtitles are fake.

He's our master. Didn't you read 'Animal Farm'? You know, the little fat piggy's (them) who order the dogs (US Army) around to beat-up or terrorize the other farm animals (us plebeians). Ain't life grand?

a 50meter polar cable will conduct electricity to your car parked across the building.

Right wing Jews have gotten so brazen, they don't care what people think.

Why wouldn't we let our real leaders address congress??

Would you see Obama going to the Knesset to present?

The universe is run by an Anglo-Zionist-Takfiri-Wahabi-Reptilian-Alien Hybrid-Gnostic-Alpha Draconian-Lizard-Mongolian alliance. They have put everything towards Zionism for now. That is the first priority on their agenda. Next it will be another.

Where do you think the shafts of the Great Pyramid aligned to when it was built? Take a guess.

Maybe adderall isn't working.

It works. That's why I know this and you don't

We got a smart guy over over here

Thanks mate! :D

The distraction shills keep getting worse here. It's been amateurs at best for years now.

Wait I'm curious what what it aligned to!!!???

Alpha Draconis

I felt the same, I don't trust her for a minute but her reaction (and others) to Netanyahu's speech was refreshing even though it's just political gesturing with no real depth.

I hear this claim get thrown around here a lot, but I haven't read enough to form an educated opinion on the matter.

Do you have any links that could enlighten me?

He owns the U.S. Congress. Israel and Zionism owns America. That's why.

no, you mongoloid wag the dog believer/lacky/fanatic, it's because Israel is the 53rd US state and it exists in and controls the middle east - and acts as out outpost in the last part of the world(the arabian peninsula) which is not totally controlled by the western world already culturally / financially / militarily / legally(though that's in the process of happening and has been for decades since the US first started invading and occupying the nations there).

bingo, can we close the 395,949 posts in this sub dating back some 10+ years?

His punctuation may be bad but your grammar is bad. 4 sentences = 4 separate paragraphs? Like really?

Your insistence on ad hominems makes your tripe reek a bit too badly to bother reading it. Hope you enjoyed typing it all out.

yes, really, and all you've done here and continue to attempt to do here is make yourself feel good about...

Sigh. More of the same. lol. Okay, son. Keep on typing. Ain't being read. Hope you're having fun! lol

ad hominems

ad hominems

That or they reply to your non-911 comment with "jet fuel" comments. It's completely absurd.

This is what you get for posting in this sub on the regular as well.

More useful idiots are born every day.

I think it's more like the US, Saudi Arabia, and Israel all have the same goals.

The US wants to eliminate oil competition in the region because the US has a ton of money invested in Saudi oil. Saudi is in it for the same reason. That's why Iraq and Iran are are targets.

Israel was created and backed to provide easy access into Saudi Arabia if something should threaten those oil interests. If the region stabilizes, Israel's existence will not longer be something the US oil industry will care about. If Saudi Arabia has to compete in the free market, it'll be the same thing for them. So Saudi Arabia and Israel want to keep the US involved in the region.

In addition to that, the military industrial complex wants to keep war going anywhere it can. More guns sold to the US army, the Israelis, and the Saudis. The Saudis easily throw money at radical groups that they bring up by funding mosques in war torn regions, throwing fuel on the flames of angry orphaned teenagers and young men in the region.

This makes weapons high demand for the Saudis and Israelis, and soon the US (I'm calling it now, next US president will be Republican and will go full scale invasion in Syria or Iraq).

Also AIPEC can pay congress to do whatever they want.

Lastly, the regions of Iraq/Iran, Syria, and Egypt have historically been a huge breeding ground for intellectualism and tolerance in the Muslim world. They are historically very diverse and tolerant populations, that if left to stabilize, would explode into a golden age in the region.

Can't have any of that. Especially if a stable Democracy was Shi'a. Even Bush said it. Democracy will spread. if Democracy is stabilized in the region, it'll spread, and take out the Saudi Royal family, and force Israel to be a democracy for everyone, not just European Jews.

BLARP! BLARP!

I wanted to see this compilation after watching the speech.

It scares me.