So I take it your grandfather would frequently don a compass and square (a profaned unicursal hexagram with a G in place of the eye / ayin or rose within a triangle of perfection), and that your grandmother was partial to wearing the rosy cross.

The name of the group was in another language and the only word I recognized was light.

Was it the Hermetic Brotherhood of Light she had mentioned to you?

To clarify:

Measure a corner of the Creation, and multiply that space in proportional progression, and the entire Infinite will multiply its circles filled with universes, which will pass in proportional segments between the ideal and elongating branches of your Compass. Now suppose that from any point whatever of the Infinite above you a hand holds another Compass or a Square, the lines of the Celestial triangle will necessarily meet those of the Compass of Science, to form the Mysterious Star of Solomon.

Triangle of Perfection (Wisdom, Power, and Beauty) - made to represent the Tetragrammaton, or sacred name of God. Yahweh is the Hebrew vocalization of the Tetragrammaton יהוה.

I have a few rosy crosses myself. I'm looking at one at this very moment, one my family happened to have acquired in Germany when I was a child, the birthplace of the first public Rosicrucian order ironically.

So, was it the Hermetic Brotherhood of Light after all?

Gold und Rosenkreuzer?

Loge zur aufgehenden Morgenröthe?

Die Ritter des Lichts (Knights of the Light)?

Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn? Ordo Templi Orientis? Fraternitas Saturni?

One last question: Did she ever mention the word Moriah?

Now, was it simpy Moria from the LOTR?

Or was it Mount Moriah from the Old Testament, where it is said Abraham was instructed to sacrifice his son Isaac, later to be known as the Temple Mount where the Temple of Solomon was allegedly built, where the Knights Templar were first headquartered during the Crusades, where Mohammed was said to have 'ascended into heaven', site of the Al-Aqsa Mosque and Dome of the Rock, known now as Mount Zion?

Or, was it in the name 'Moriah Conquering Wind'?

Illuminati? lol if it is

How do you know, for a fact, she is a Rosicrucian?

This is pretty heavy....

My friend is in the freemasons and says it's the same basic stuff as our college fraternity, though I am quite interested in Rosicrucian.

Freemasons are basically softcore satanists; just thought you should know.

I am not very clear what you mean, though as I understand satanism, they are people who are very materialistic and believe in doing what they feel is right for each individual (bound within the law), hedonist so to speak.

There are plenty of videos explaining how Freemasons are not exactly what they seem. In the end it all leads to a certain "group" that control everything. All i can say is do some research; find the truth and believe what you see fit.

Behind the scenes there could perhaps be something more nefarious, but to my friend and his freemason brothers, there is nothing out of the ordinary, and as he puts it, "can be very dull."

Do you really believe your friend will tell you everything? Ask the right questions and maybe you will find the right answers. Keep an open mind but the rituals they preform allow demons to tap into their bodies(obviously not a good thing). Look at the dollar bill(count the stars, count how many leaves the eagle is holding). It's like a piece to a puzzle. All i can say is keep finding more info, the evidence leads to much bigger and horrible lies. The truth nowadays is not so easy to bare.

I'm a Freemason and Rosicrucian, and I am not a satanist.

You may find the Egyptian Rite to be of interest to you.

Then you are what they call an "underling", you are not in the higher level of freemasonry yet. In the higher levels: that is where satanic rituals begin to take place. A ritual in itself isn't really a good thing either.

What you're referring to would be an inner order of adepts, what some would refer to as the New and Reformed Palladian Rite, which may or may not in fact exist, one the overwhelming majority of Masons would have no part of.

The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry.

It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain.

-- Albert Pike, Morals & Dogma of Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry

And you are mistaken to presume any ritual is inherently negative. It depends on the ritual, who is performing it and in what context. If you are Christian, your Sunday mass is in fact a ritual.

Here's something I've always wondered: if there really are these super double secret levels of Freemasonry that an underling such as myself is not aware of, how do you -- as a non-mason -- know that it exists?

It's a bit more than that. Try reading Morals & Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry for some insight.

The Rosicrucians haven't officially resurfaced for hundreds of years. Although here are many orders -- including freemasons -- who claim a spiritual heritage or even direct lineage. The connections to freemasons are compelling.

In the 20th century, an occultist named Max Heindel said he had a vision of Christian Rosenkreutz -- the legendary and arguably mythological founder of the order -- who directed him to establish a number of Rosicrucian churches in the United States.

Your grandmother may have been a member of one of his churches. It was quite a large organization.

Coincidentally, one of the best sources to learn about Rosicrucianism from would be Manly P. Hall's book the Secret Teachings of All Ages. It is not light reading, and if you are new to the subject, I recommend reading the introduction and conclusion first to orient you.

The author's mother was a member of Heindel's church. Hall spent some time in his youth with them, but was primarily raised by his grandmother. He wrote his book -- which is truly a gigantic tome -- at the age of 27. It is widely considered to be one of the greatest books ever written on the esoteric and occult, both for its detail and its scope. People have wondered how he came to so much wisdom at such a young age, especially since he was not formally educated.

One could speculate that Heindel was telling the truth, and indeed had a vision of the leader-mystic of the Rosy Cross, and instructed the young Hall in the mysteries of the universe.

Keep in mind that the Rosicrucians are not commonly identified as nefarious groups, like the Illuminati or Skull & Bones.

/u/quantumcipher has seeded a large and fascinating list of articles related to this subject on /r/occultconspiracy. I recently created that subreddit, and would love if you subscribed and cross posted your story for discussion.

It's very well written, and eerily relevant. A couple excerpts from the conclusion:

In the ranks of the so-called learned there is rising up a new order of thinkers, which may best be termed the School of the Worldly Wise Men. After arriving at the astounding conclusion that they are the intellectual salt of the earth, these gentlemen of letters have appointed themselves the final judges of all knowledge, both human and divine. This group affirms that all mystics must have been epileptic and most of the saints neurotic! It declares God to be a fabrication of primitive superstition; the universe to be intended for no particular purpose; immortality to be a figment of the imagination; and an outstanding individuality to be but a fortuitous combination of cells! Pythagoras is asserted to have suffered from a "bean complex"; Socrates was a notorious inebriate; St. Paul was subject to fits; Paracelsus was an infamous quack, the Comte di Cagliostro a mountebank, and the Comte de St.-Germain the outstanding crook of history!

What do the lofty concepts of the world's illumined saviors and sages have in common with these stunted, distorted products of the "realism" of this century? All over the world men and women ground down by the soulless cultural systems of today are crying out for the return of the banished age of beauty and enlightenment--for something practical in the highest sense of the word. A few are beginning to realize that so-called civilization in its present form is at the vanishing point; that coldness, heartlessness, commercialism, and material efficiency are impractical, and only that which offers opportunity for the expression of love and ideality is truly worth while. All the world is seeking happiness, but knows not in what direction to search. Men must learn that happiness crowns the soul's quest for understanding. Only through the realization of infinite goodness and infinite accomplishment can the peace of the inner Self be assured. In spite of man's geocentricism, there is something in the human mind that is reaching out to philosophy--not to this or that philosophic code, but simply to philosophy in the broadest and fullest sense.

...

The one hope of the world is philosophy, for all the sorrows of modern life result from the lack of a proper philosophic code. Those who sense even in part the dignity of life cannot but realize the shallowness apparent in the activities of this age. Well has it been said that no individual can succeed until he has developed his philosophy of life. Neither can a race or nation attain true greatness until it has formulated an adequate philosophy and has dedicated its existence to a policy consistent with that philosophy. During the World War, when so-called civilization hurled one half of itself against the other in a frenzy of hate, men ruthlessly destroyed something more precious even than human life: they obliterated those records of human thought by which life can be intelligently directionalized. Truly did Mohammed declare the ink of philosophers to be more precious than the blood of martyrs. Priceless documents, invaluable records of achievement, knowledge founded on ages of patient observation and experimentation by the elect of the earth--all were destroyed with scarcely a qualm of regret. What was knowledge, what was truth, beauty, love, idealism, philosophy, or religion when compared to man's desire to control an infinitesimal spot in the fields of Cosmos for an inestimably minute fragment of time? Merely to satisfy some whim or urge of ambition man would uproot the universe, though well he knows that in a few short years he must depart, leaving all that he has seized to posterity as an old cause for fresh contention.

War--the irrefutable evidence of irrationality--still smolders in the hearts of men; it cannot die until human selfishness is overcome. Armed with multifarious inventions and destructive agencies, civilization will continue its fratricidal strife through future ages, But upon the mind of man there is dawning a great fear--the fear that eventually civilization will destroy itself in one great cataclysmic struggle.

True, the R.C. as it was once known, has remained more secretive than the various outer orders we have now, such as the AMORC for example.

It's funny you would mentioned The Secret Teachings of All Ages, as I had intended to post that very book to the sub next, and in fact had that exact source bookmarked / queued up to do so..

Synchronicity!

Indeed.

Order of Melchizedek? Horus Maat? White Brotherhood? Eastern Star?

Those are good guesses, with the exception of the Great White Brotherhood, considering it is the most elusive and exclusive of any.

What do you know about the order of Melchizedek?

At one point referring to an order of priests and kings in ancient Judea, alleged practitioners of the Merkabah, and to some students of the Mystery Schools of Ancient Egypt, later alleged to have ties to the Essenes and Gnosticism. In ancient Judea, it was a term synonymous with being both a king and priest simultaneously, as was the case with the supposed messiah, Yeshuah and with the order's namesake, Melchizedek. The implications of this order being more relevant to theologians, more or less irrelevant in esotericism and as pertains to secret societies. To others, it may still exist today in the same manner as some view the Great White Brotherhood, in a purely allegorical sense as a group of alleged ascended masters. Though unlike the order of Melchizedek, the Secret Chiefs of the Great White Brotherhood are known to have been in contact with certain adepts and founding members of key initiatory orders and secret societies over the centuries, perhaps millennia.

Thanks for the info. I came across this the other day which mentions Melchizedek a number of times and have been interested to learn more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXphXMJLCV8

They know nothing of Yahshua's priesthood and they know nothing of melchizedek. Wana learn something? here http://www.ayahasherayah.org/images/elohim.pdf

"Light" figures prominently in the names of many Hermetic spiritual organizations. Golden Dawn. Hermetic Brotherhood of Light. Society of the Inner Light. Silver Star. Stella Matutina. Illuminati. Luciferians. Lucis Trust. Light is the common theme. It is a light of spiritual illumination. Light is knowledge -- darkness is ignorance.

Indeed. Light here being a reference to illumination, to gnosis, henosis and the Great Work.

Freemasons are basically softcore satanists; just thought you should know.

It's a bit more than that. Try reading Morals & Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry for some insight.

Indeed.

What you're referring to would be an inner order of adepts, what some would refer to as the New and Reformed Palladian Rite, which may or may not in fact exist, one the overwhelming majority of Masons would have no part of.

The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry.

It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain.

-- Albert Pike, Morals & Dogma of Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry

And you are mistaken to presume any ritual is inherently negative. It depends on the ritual, who is performing it and in what context. If you are Christian, your Sunday mass is in fact a ritual.

Here's something I've always wondered: if there really are these super double secret levels of Freemasonry that an underling such as myself is not aware of, how do you -- as a non-mason -- know that it exists?