Drugs are deprogrammers. Feel that third eye pulsing in your head? Thats the leopard shepherd - trying to show you the tesseract.

I honestly don't think your energies on Ayahuasca are from the enlightened path - they come from your dreams and emotions.

Drugs such as Mushrooms-LSD are much more beneficial for the release of isotropic hallucinogenic feelings.

Ayahuasca is a plant and definitely has a part on showing people the light, but you have to get though you own darkness first. The amount of suffering people have cause in their own lives has to be faced to move forward. Ayahuasca shows you your darkness.

What do you recommend for the enlightened path?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShEsoL1BlMg

What's this? Some kind of art?

MIKE FOLK

Huh?

Just leaving a easter egg for a friend of mine- that is friends with Otto, and might come across this...

I consider myself a friend of his.

cool, he seems legit.

I was teasing with this but seriously before enlightenment chop wood carry water after enlightenment chop wood carry water.

If you want to increase your power Raja yoga, the book Modern Magick, Kabbalah these subjects can take a human and make them a living god.

The world is run by dark occultists, look around. We need to balance it with white magick. Look at the Lord of the rings for the allegory. Sauron was the blackest darkest Magician, Sarumon was the white wizard and Gandalf was the grey. The temptation for power turned Sarumon to a black wizard and in doing so it demanded Gandalf to turn white to balance it.

You can also pull from Star Wars too with the force being used for evil by Darth Vader and The Emperor while Ob-wan Yoda and Luke using the SAME force for good. It is all based on will of the user. If you know yourself 100% and tryst that ego won't take over (unlike most of the Golden dawn folks Aleister Crowley) then it is safe to use.

I want to add that before Gandalf turned whit he battled demons these may be internal or external not sure that it matters but before becoming white you must transform yourself through battling all of your demons. I don't recommend everyone walk the path unless you are clear and have worked heavily on the self. Pharmahuasca and mushrooms are good for this. Acid is OK but prefer the natural occurring to the synthetic.

I think it's a little from column a and a little from column b. Haven't had Aya, but had some solid times on dmt. It more or less told me that there's a galactic war going on and earth is the focal point and that a lot of the conspiracy theories I'd been reading about were true. That gave me a lot more conviction to go and investigate things further. But, I wouldn't have been inclined to try dmt in the first place were I not already questioning the program.

What do you think the active ingredient is?

Aya is 2 ingredients: the alkaloid and the maoi.

Vaporized/ingested dmt is a bit different than aya whereas its only the former.

Correct. You can't really accurately claim you haven't had DMT.

P.S. Find an MAOI if you so desire.

that and its produced by every living thing on this planet plant and animal.

so theres that to think about

RE-PS: grapefruit, strawberries, etc, etc. heres a list

Agreed. The scenarios when humans naturally release DMT is extremely fascinating.

its called a business mans high for that exact reason.

For those who don't know what ayahuasca is, here's an article I highly recommend reading.

It's one of those chicken and egg things - most of those that feel the urge to explore ayahuasca have already began to search for meaning outside of the mainstream, socially sanctified paradigm...

Then again, it moves you so profoundly into your humanness. The mysterious core of existence that is not echoed in the scientific materialist society is shown in it's full glory, and inherent in that is a sense of love of the self and creation. When a sacredness is felt, I think it makes it easier to see the extent of madness and darkness on the planet, as compared to the apparently so far unrecognized spiritual reality and transcendental human potential.

I think planetary/societal unity is a vector that we have inside of us and that we wish to realize. When the realities of how beautiful that could be are glimpsed upon, the distance between our present moment and that possibility are much easier to see!

PEACE! :)

Thanks! And yeah that definitely aligns with what I'm saying, sounds like a good theory to me. I find it quite hard to talk about without sounding new agey, but If enough people were tuned into this conscious, caring and for the greater good type consciousness then I think it would result in a domino effect greater than the individuals inputs combined, which I guess is just like what cells do, like you said. We just need to tune into that. Have you drank ayahuasca, if you don't mind me asking?

Yeah the New Age is a weird one. It's such a gimmicky term, and since every movement is a 'new age', it seems like a bit of a joke to proclaim the coming age as an especially new age. Then again, it kind of seems like it is?

And how do you think it is trapping us? By keeping the perception of the movement as a conceptual fad rather than a genuine thing?

It could be more of the type of person who would take part in an ayahuasca ceremony. Most "mainstream thinkers" probably don't even know what ayahuasca is, so it seems likely that it's mostly more open-minded people who would take part and probably people who have looked beyond the superficial Matrix the huge majority of the world exists in.

Other aspect to this is: were the other 12-13 people American ex-pats such as yourself? If so, that would be another reason since I'd assume the majority of ex-pats are pretty aware of what's going on in the world and in the US (which is probably the main reason they left in the first place).

That said though, I think there's definitely a link there between drugs like ayahuasca and "seeing beyond the veil", it probably does have something to do with the pineal. I hope I someday get the chance to take part in an ayahuasca ceremony, haven't done so yet.

I'm in NYC so generally not somewhere known for great levels of freedom or doing anything out in nature. I've always assumed I'd most likely need to go elsewhere if I actually wanted to take part in a ceremony.

Hmm... yeah, I'm curious if you don't mind - I'd definitely look into it.

Perhaps it should be made an institution that everyone takes ayahuasca the day before voting day.

I've heard the pineal gland called the "intuition organ"

Yup. As your awareness rises, you start to rely more on direct perception instead of thinking. You get more comfortable identifying with 'awareness' as your true identity rather than ego. You then are able to pick up on more information directly, since your ego isn't blocking things out or distorting them.

As for intuition and political awakening - obviously you can't intuit the temperature that steel beams burn at, etc. But things like the obsessive media coverage of 9/11 set off serious alarm bells. It starts to look fake. Like planned out, fear-based, repetitive programming that purposefully contradicts itself. "They attacked us because they hate our freedoms, so we're going to respond by curtailing our freedoms." etc.

Intuition is hard to 'prove.' It's not a magic power. It's more about being really in touch with yourself and the nature of things, so you know BS when you see it.