I watched for 30 seconds. I'm embarrassed to be subscribed to /r/conspiracy. Thank you for playing into every ridiculous tin foil hat conspiratard cliché possible. Well done. You guys must really be amused with yourselves.

It's always the same mods flytape, axolotl_peyotl and now assuredlyathrowaway has lost credibility — and I respected that guy a lot.

Such a fucking shame how much negative influence just a few mods can have — some people aren't fit for the job. I think a check and balance system should be implemented for moderators.

EDIT: wow didn't notice this — http://i.imgur.com/6ESTYuk.jpg

JTRIG 101

/u/youmayberight79?

No. You're like the 5th person. What the hell? Pay attention to the topic at hand and stop falsely accusing me, are you another flytape groupie?

oh fuck off. i just saw it in the picture. why is it in the picture? i did address the topic at hand, in another comment.

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/31dy9y/the_first_official_rconspiracy_podcast_is_now/cq1fyb7?context=3

I apologize for being so aggressive. :/

no need to apologise mate, just look at each comment for what it is, not what it could be.....

You listed the only 3 mods that are continuously attacked by the meta-subreddits and that actively contribute to this community.

The podcast really pissed of TPTB on reddit. Don't want the rest of the world to see what goes on here in an easy to digest format. I support any /r/conspiracy member making a podcast.

Someone who is actively participating in shady dealings isn't going to put a face to their shenanigans by making a podcast and attempting to shed light on the shady dealings on reddit.

You are ridiculous.

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Credibility == bow-to-the-hive-mind

That's not what this subreddit is about. If you're worried about "credibility" you're worried about what others believe about you. You're a sheep in need of approval from the outside.

This is a place for open discussion. Leave out the self-censorship to "belong" to the herd. That's for the main stream hive mind.

Someone who is actively participating in shady dealings isn't going to put a face to their shenanigans

Controlled opposition is absolutely a legitimate PR strategy.

There's always room over at /r/C_S_T ...

Never let a crisis go to waste

/end shameless plug

R limited hangouts has 1k subscribers. Umad

Not really. This isn't a competition (yet). Or is it?

Is Snowden a part of a psyop??

I believe so.

what was the point of even saying a comment like this? are you the full dollar? btw /r/limitedhangouts just looks like a circlejerk now because of your constant, repetitive comments. its a shame that you chose being a condescending jerk over mutual conversation.

I actually plugged you guys during the live broadcast too.

Awwwww

I'm embarrassed to be subscribed to /r/conspiracy.

Let me help you. Scroll to the top of the page, and look in the sidebar on the right. There is a red button that reads "unsubscribe". Click it.

Good job not solving anything.

So I don't have to watch ... was it chemtrails, cell phone cancer, elite pedo rape/murder rings killing thousands a year? Which of the stupid nuttery did they start with?

it was probably some shit about there not being WMD's which caused a war, and that the NSA was been capturing everyone's communications. Damn nutters.

Wow. I'm speechless.

http://imgur.com/APBCDqz

Is this a fucking joke?

Not only is this mod the most scrutinized in the sub — now got him doing live chats in pinned threads voicing his opinion with a mask on?

Flytape has been involved in so much controversial BS (alongside his buddy axolotl) that this new "live chat" interview seals the deal— he is a COINTELPRO wet dream.

As a subscriber to this subreddit, I highly disapprove of this ridiculous situation and I am very disappointed in the execution.

it's like this subreddit was actually gaining ground with great TILs, public exposure site wide, and no disruptive stickies or AMA — constant WTC 7 posts and even a post about HW bush that went viral on reddit — then BOOM you guys come in and make a decision that reflects on the whole user base, which coincidentally involves flytape wearing a fucking mask rambling about shit.

http://imgur.com/APBCDqz

This is JTRIG 101

I may be mistaken, but I don't remember anyone consulting the users of this sub about starting a podcast. What gives /u/Flytape the right to host a podcast that purports to speak for this community? This is gross.

It's very coincidental considering his past.

http://www.np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2ooful/david_colestein_holocaust_revisionist_filmmaker/

http://www.np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2ooful/david_colestein_holocaust_revisionist_filmmaker/cmq7o9j

I agree completely. This is unacceptable.

Agreed.

Flytape is always associated with moves that hurt the sub. Your comment is exactly why; though you fail to mention that Mr Dong and Sovereign Man are in on it, too.

I agree

you do realize people do this intentionally correct? cognitive infiltration happens ALL the time. as well as well poisoning.

I can understand being apprehensive about certain controversial individuals representing us because you happen to disagree with them personally, sure. The rest just seems like mellowdramatic hyperbole. Besides, who says we have to be serious 100% of the time solely because of what other people might think? Fuck that.

LOL, you clearly got brigaded here.

It would appear so.

Let the votes speak for themselves.

yeah sorry votes dont speak for shit. If we knew where the votes where coming from, maybe i would give a dam. I think 3rdeye has his own axe to grind or somebody elses.

Ding ding ding!

Vote bots always downvote my limited hangout posts

let the votes speak for themselves

Oh God my fucking sides. Okay 1 month old account with 3month old account friend, just two more in a long string of new accounts rehashing the same shit trying to depose the same people. We'll let the 'votes' speak for themselves.

I certainly will. And in spite of your over-the-top comparison of a light-hearted pod cast to COINTELPRO, ignoring the prevelance of actual shills on reddit and users who false flag racist bs here (i.e. BipolarBear0) and instead attacking the mods for personal reasons, I actually tend to agree with most of your posts here, regarding WTC 7 specifically. So thanks, for that, at least.

False flag racism? You mean like the Hitler bot displayed on the podcast?

There are indeed examples of 'false flag' racism here, of users posting content they do not believe in to troll and brigade this sub and make it appear racist, as evident in the mod leaks and as admitted to by certain users previously. I also acknowledge there is indeed a handful users who unfortunately post legitimately racist material here and there, users I would ideally ban were the other mods not opposed to it out of concerns of censorship, which is at least somewhat of a valid point. In regard to the Hitler doc posted on the sidebar, that was a decision made when I was not active as a mod here nor using reddit in general, and one I would have opposed vehemently if I were.

I certainly will. And in spite of your over-the-top comparison

How is it over the top? You are using hyperbole to paint a false narrative to support the clearly compromised mod /u/flytape .

/u/quantumcipher , your cards are showing very clearly.

ignoring the prevelance of actual shills on reddit

Where did /u/3rdEyeNavigator do that? You are making a false claim.

and users who false flag racist bs here (i.e. BipolarBear0)

And /u/flytape

and instead attacking the mods for personal reasons

Stop lying, it's clearly not for "personal" reasons. /u/flytape is presenting himself as the "representative" of /r/conspiracy , and his video makes him appear to be a lunatic because he's using an absurd post apocalyptic type background and wearing an extremely bizarre mask for seemingly no reason.

JTRIG 101 indeed, and you appear to be defending it.

How is it over the top? You are using hyperbole to paint a false narrative to support the clearly compromised mod /u/flytape.

So where, exactly, did I use hyperbole? He referred to Flytape and the entire podcast as being COINTELPRO, which you have to admit is an exaggeration, ergo hyperbole.

/u/quantumcipher[2] , your cards are showing very clearly.

What cards would those be? I'm stating my opinion on the matter. Nothing more, nothing less. If you knew the shit I've had to put up with in defense of this sub, you wouldn't say this.

Example: I've received multiple death threats in the past for supporting this sub and for posting controversial material regarding false flags and black ops, I've been trolled relentlessly by r/conspiratard and SRD trolls (repeatedly referred to as a 'retard' 'crazy' 'schizo' 'anti-semite' 'piece of shit' 'basement dwelling neckbeard' who should 'kill myself' etc on a daily basis at one point), I spent a few months as a mod here dedicating a few hours a day solely to removing similar comments directed at the sub and being the only mod at the time who would bother to ban dozens if not upwards of a hundred trolls / shills / JIDF / occasional white supremacists, now have stalkers who 'follow me around' (according to the admins) downvoting everything I post on reddit and trolling me occasionally in random threads as a result, have done nothing but defend this sub in others in the past only to be brigaded and ridiculed repeatedly as a result.

Are those the "cards" you're referring to? Or is it the accusation from one user in this thread for not being as harshly critical of the mods here for doing a stupid, meaningless podcast where they didn't feel the need to take themselves too seriously? Which is it?

Where did /u/3rdEyeNavigator do that? You are making a false claim.

In this thread. Rather than focusing on actual shills and users who actually post antisemitic content here as I have done in the past, he is referring to the mods here as "COINTELPRO" over a stupid podcast.

And /u/flytape[4]

Okay. Where did he post legitimately racist or anti-semitic material here? As far as I'm aware, he's what some call a 'holocaust denier'. This is a topic I do not necessarily agree with and one I personally consider a waste of time. Yet, I do not recall seeing him post this material here, in this sub, as you suggest, let alone anything legitimately anti-semitic (i.e. racist against jews). This is a claim made often by JIDF and trolls who feel the need to sensationalize the activity of the mods here, accusing the entire mod team as being "Stormfront" which is absurd considering I've never seen any of them being legitimately racist, and that one of them happens to be Jewish and considering myself who was once a mod here is only half white (not exactly "Stormfront" material). If you have evidence to suggest otherwise, that Flytape did in fact post racist material here, I would like to see it, and if there is any I will apologize for being wrong in that regard and adjust my view accordingly.

Stop lying, it's clearly not for "personal" reasons.

I'm not lying about anything. I'm expressing my personal opinion on the matter as honestly as possible, which I had a feeling others would give me shit over for not conforming with the sub's hivemind of constantly attacking the mods over petty bullshit.

I don't see any other reason to hate Flytape so much, other than for his personal views (i.e. holocaust revisionism) or as the result of a personal interaction with him in the past (where he can be admittedly be crass and even rude at times).

/u/flytape is presenting himself as the "representative" of /r/conspiracy, and his video makes him appear to be a lunatic because he's using an absurd post apocalyptic type background and wearing an extremely bizarre mask for seemingly no reason.

This is a podcast, hosted by the mods. Hence, it is reflective of the mods and the mods themselves, until they have any other guests, at which point it will be reflective of the guest's as well. I think of it as an AMA. The person doing the AMA isn't going to speak for the entire community, nor are the users who post questions in the AMA speaking on behalf of the entire sub. It's two individuals entitled to their own opinions and sense of expression. If you disagree with that, that's fine, however I do not consider it reasonable to equate this to COINTELPRO or JTRIG when we have actual examples of this found throughout reddit (i.e. r/conspiratard and peppered throughout the default subs) more worthy of that distinction.

JTRIG 101 indeed, and you appear to be defending it.

I'm not defending or agreeing with it, entirely, other than to defend their right to say or do whatever they please as individuals, on a fucking podcast, and not take it too god damn seriously. To call that "JTRIG" is an offense to all the legitimate examples of JTRIG-like behavior I myself have pointed out here in the past.

wearing an extremely bizarre mask for seemingly no reason

There are thousands of redditors out there who falsely think that Flytape is an antisemite. Those people want very badly to doxx him and ruin and/or end his life because of their zealous hatred of antisemites. Did you really not know that, or are you just pretending like there was "seemingly no reason" for protecting his identity so that you can jump in on this latest witch hunt?

JTRIG 101 indeed, and you appear to be defending it.

Dude, they're playing you like a fiddle.

What the fuck is up with the stupid mask? Not watching childish crap like that. Thanks for wasting 30 seconds of my life.

Smoking weed while wearing a stupid mask. TOTALLY worth listening to. Yeah, I remember high school too.

rolls eyes

Some people just love to complain, it seems.

What you're doing is very subversive and disruptive to this subreddit.

There's no way to think interviewing the most hated mod in this sub with a mask on would be helpful — especially as a sticky.

JTRIG says thank you.

omg dramatic much? I dont think he is hated.

The overwhelming majority if this subreddit disagrees.

Lie much?

says a random person on the internet with nothing to back it up by hot air.

omg dramatic much?

No, not at all.

I dont think he is hated.

Are you new here? /u/Flytape has been suspected of being an infiltrator for a LONG time by many many people, myself included obviously.

Only reason why we don't pursue it further is because it's true, and if you push it too hard they ban you.

I may be banned from /r/conspiracy for all of the comments I have made here today, and I've been a member here for about 5 years.

I know what's up, and /u/flytape is definitely not legit, I've heard every pathetic excuse they throw up in defense of /u/flytape and his infiltrator behavior, and they're all nonsense.

You sound like nonsense and trying to infiltrate yourself. Its easy to make accusations without backing them up.

You sound like nonsense

How so? That personal attack is pathetic and has zero support, I can easily link you plenty of comments from a plethora of users all calling out /u/flytape for the infiltrator that he is.

and trying to infiltrate yourself.

You can trawl through my 4 years of comments here and you will find absolutely nothing to back up that completely false claim.

All you've done so far is take my claims, and "turn them around" on me alleging that I am what I am claiming /u/flytape to be.

Yeah, that "turn the tables" garbage doesn't work, but nice try.

Its easy to make accusations without backing them up.

Boom, here's evidence, how is /u/flytape fit to be mod?

Secondly, your evidence is any thing but. there is nothing wrong about getting to the truth of the Holocaust. History is written by people who want to rule the world. All you're doing is saying people shouldn't have the right to hear alternative views. Thats censorship. I dont care if you believe that its true or not we have a right to look at things objectively without overlords telling us how to view the world, we're done with that, I dont need anybody telling me what is true and what isnt. If i see something that isnt true ill call it out, not tell the world it cant have a voice.

Secondly, your evidence is any thing but. there is nothing wrong about getting to the truth of the Holocaust.

I never EVER used "the holocaust" as evidence against /u/Flytape , so why are you making that false claim?

History is written by people who want to rule the world.

No, history is perverted and re-written by those who wish to subjugate the world under their rule, but it originally documented and recorded by many individuals.

All you're doing is saying people shouldn't have the right to hear alternative views.

No, that is a false claim, I have never stated that, you are presenting a strawman argument. Stop lying, especially about thing which I have never stated.

THIS is my evidence of why /u/flytape is not fit to be a mod.

Any other user would be banned for blatantly breaking rule 4 would be banned, but apparently /u/flytape is allowed to tell people to "fuck off" because he's above the rules.......

Relax man. I didnt quite get what you were trying to say with that link. your saying that because he said fuck off that he should not be an admin?

I was telling a user to fuck off who was ACTIVELY WITCH HUNTING A MOD FOR NO REASON.

If your proof is one comment I made last year to a guy who was eventually banned by reddit for vote manipulation in /r/conspiracy then you're on the wrong team.

You do realize that the people I was arguing with in that link were confirmed by the admins to be vote brigading and manipulating this forum?

So my anger was founded and my suspicions were validated, those users were shadow banned for breaking the rules of reddit.

And those same users are here again for this drama which you are supporting.

You do realize that the people I was arguing with in that link were confirmed by the admins to be vote brigading and manipulating this forum?

How did the admins confirm that, and what evidence did you see that supports their "confirmation"?

So my anger was founded

No, no it wasn't, not in comment form as a mod.

And those same users are here again for this drama which you are supporting.

Care to show? Right now all I see is a claim with no evidence and a convenient explanation.

Just FYI, the admins are clearly corrupt, so I don't know why you would try to use their "authority" to legitimize your claims.

Just FYI, the admins are clearly corrupt, so I don't know why you would try to use their "authority" to legitimize your claims.

Ok dsprox. Your clearly trying to create drama now, im going to drop this. You are doing nothing to try and make things better.

He just has a grudge against Flytape for making fun of his tirades one time long ago.

LOL, only in your dream world. I'm calling you out on how you are going about this. If you have problems with flytype, thats fine, it just seems childish to use this event to attack him, come up with your own post and get real input instead of trailing a conversation about a podcast, throwing accusations out that don't really have much support.

LOL, only in your dream world.

No, in reality, you pretending it's not real doesn't make it less real, nor does you trying to laugh it off, a clear sign that you know you're wrong and have nothing actually intelligent to say in support of your stance.

I'm calling you out on how you are going about this.

When, starting now with this comment? Because you haven't been doing that so far.

If you have problems with flytype, thats fine,

Myself and at least 50 other users that I have had correspondence with.

it just seems childish to use this event to attack him

Why and how? He is wearing some crazy looking mask and using some insane looking background when he could just make a normal looking video that shows the appearance of an intelligent person who is not acting strange in any manner. That is not what was done, so how is me questioning it "childish"?

come up with your own post and get real input

Been there done that, and this is real input, which I have received multiple times in the past in multiple other threads where /u/flytape is being called out for his seeming subversion.

instead of trailing a conversation about a podcast

I'm not trailing anything, this thread came up in my feed, and I already feel this way about /u/flytape based on my past interactions with him, and the interactions with him I have been told about from other users, who in most cases provided either links or screenshots, like the one I linked you previously.

throwing accusations out that don't really have much support

It's hard to gather evidence from comments which have been deleted and screenshots which have been removed.

There was a whitewashing of a lot of information from Reddit about 2 years ago.

I made a post about trail derailment, analyzing over 50 cases and categorizing them based on the evidence in the case as either being a normal actual accident, or an accident that appears intentional, for oil and coal trains.

I can not find this post on reddit, or through internet searches.

Reddit has been 100% compromised for at least the past 2 years, if not possibly 3.

2 years ago is where the shift really became noticeable, and today it is far more severe, if it wasn't made plainly obvious by /r/todayilearned mocking /r/conspiracy through their subreddit style just recently.

I made a post about trail derailment, analyzing over 50 cases and categorizing them based on the evidence in the case as either being a normal actual accident, or an accident that appears intentional, for oil and coal trains.

did you post it on r/conspiracy? cant you use repost it? and keep an eye on it and see what happens? Id feel more inclined to support you if there was more than one case of this. So far I havent seen things being removed and if so they were reinstated.

Im just getting real tired of all the accusations who knows what is true and what isnt any more? There is so much disinfo going on in the world today its really hard to make distinctions.

If I recall correctly the very first time you had an issue with me was when you got called down for breaking the rules. You wouldn't stop calling people names and eventually got banned for it. Then started a witch hunt against me and eventually you listened to reason, apologized and agreed to follow the rules.

Yet here you are trying again.

Get over it. You people have no right to tell me how to present myself. Stop with the drama queen shit.

If I recall correctly the very first time you had an issue with me was when you got called down for breaking the rules.

What rules was I breaking, and how was it resolved? Please feel free to post our messages pertaining to that incident.

You wouldn't stop calling people names

What names was I calling them?

Then started a witch hunt against me

I was expecting this, as this is what you claim every single time anybody calls you out for what you are.

"You're witch hunting, stop witch hunting".

Yeah, stop making false claims that people have started anything.

You have been continually called out by many users long before I ever decided that you are not legitimate, so how is that me starting anything?

and eventually you listened to reason

There you go painting false narratives again. I didn't start a witch hunt, and you telling me to stop calling you out for what you are isn't reasonable, so no, I didn't listen to reason.

I backed off because I've been a member here for longer than your garbage account has even existed for, and I didn't want to be banned by you because I know that's who you are and how you operate, because of what you are.

"Oh shoot, people are on to me, better threaten them with false claims of 'witch hunting' and then ban them if they still persist."

Ban me now, and everybody in /r/conspiracy will know for sure that you are indeed an infiltrator.

Yet here you are trying again.

LOL, /u/3rdeyenavigator made this thread dude, because they caught on to your ruse based off of your attempt to appear like a crazy person in this video you just made claiming to represent the entire community of /r/conspiracy , which is nonsense.

Get over it. You people have no right to tell me how to present myself.

No, and yes we absolutely do. You are a mod, and your actions represent what is allowed in this community.

Based on your actions, it is apparently only okay to tell people to "fuck off" when your username is /u/flytape , otherwise you get banned.

Stop with the drama queen shit.

Stop with the strawman false claims, you think we're foolish enough to fall for that?

You are the one who is acting like a drama queen.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/015/352/1348764844816.png

Just /u/flytape messing around.

And his "messing around" while acting as a supposed "representative" of this community which made him and thus /r/conspiracy appear to be legitimately crazy is acceptable?

How is his "messing around" okay, considering the position he is in?

Why is this always your garbage lame excuse, "oh he's just messing around".

You think we're seriously going to buy that bunk?

Look at your downvotes dude, Negative 15, and don't you dare claim you're being brigaded by tards either, that pathetic excuse won't work either.

The more and more you try and come to the defense of the clear and explicit subversion of this sub, the more obvious you are making yourself and what your purpose here is.

I've been here 5 years, I know what's up, and you're not fooling me.

Hey /u/assuredlyathrowaway , your cards are showing.

Anonymity is understandable, but it's reminiscent of le Guy Fawkes.

Anonymity is understandable

Huh? If you want to be anonymous, DON'T DO A VIDEO CAST. This is the height of overblown self-indulgent craptacity.

It's like when a news story blurs out someones face in an interview.

They could've just played the audio, but having video can 'look' better. I think it makes it seem more real, if you get my drift.

They could've just played the audio, but having video can 'look' better.

So then why would you dress like an insane person?

I think it makes it seem more real, if you get my drift.

Oh, okay, so /u/flytape intentionally dressed and acted as crazy as possible so as to make it appear that "conspiracy theorists" are all "crazy".

/u/rockran , all you do is come to the defense of the subversion that occurs in this sub.

We all know who you are, and why you are here.

You are not fooling any of us.

So then why would you dress like an insane person?

A plague doctor?

You should ask him. Maybe he wanted to have some fun whilst hiding his face, but didn't know how to use a blur filter. It was a bit too le-Fawkes for my liking.

intentionally dressed and acted as crazy as possible

Dress? Sure.

Acted? What stuck out as being really crazy to you?

all you do is come to the defense of the subversion that occurs in this sub.

Surely I do more than that :/

We all know who you are, and why you are here.

Spooky!

Looks like you're creating a fiction about those who happen to disagree with you.

Dude I wore a mask to hide my face.

I didn't act crazy, we had a normal conversation.

Crazy people don't throw out subliminal messages left right and center like you buddy. Everything you said was deliberate and vetted. I am an expert in neurolinguistic programming defense.

I am an expert in neurolinguistic programming defense.

Lol!

Lol what? Subliminal messages aren't real. They don't even work

I'm not a master of "neurolinguistic programming defense", but I do have a master's in Linguistics, and for what it's worth, I can assure you subliminnal messaging is both real and very effective.

Its not. Multiple studies have shown it to be worthless.

tell you what .. show ONE link to a study OR article that shows subliminal messaging in advertising doesn't work.

There is a whole industry devoted to swaying your buying habits, and they do it with a huge range of techniques, subliminal pictures being one.

Im older than you so I remember OMNI and other magazine articles about this in the 70's and 80's. It wasn't even denied then.

This is a pretty well known thing. Subliminal messages aren't used. They are pretty ineffectual. Must be old enough to be out of the loop then. http://psycnet.apa.org/?&fa=main.doiLanding&doi=10.1037/0021-9010.79.6.866

Dude I wore a mask to hide my face.

Why? Are you ashamed to voice your opinions? You have no valid reason to have worn that mask, and don't even try to start with the "death threats" BS excuse you always claim whenever anybody questions you.

I don't care how many people have sent you "death threats" online, none of them are going to act on it because they've already implicated themselves as guilty by having sent that electronic communication which is instantly logged by the NSA and analyzed and flagged for being an actual death threat, serious or not.

I didn't act crazy, we had a normal conversation.

You didn't "act" crazy, you appeared crazy, which is a part of acting. You don't have to act how you would imagine a crazy person to act to seem crazy, you just have to look crazy.

To "normal" people, that mask makes you look like some kind of nut.

Why could you not have worn a balaclava?

Why can't you just show your face?

You don't want to expose your actual real person because it would lead to us being able to find out who you actually are by being able to look up your personal information because that would reveal things about you that you're trying to keep concealed from us? Is that it?

I see no other logical valid reason for you to have worn any form of a mask.

Dahboo7 doesn't wear a mask, Rense doesn't wear a mask, Adam Kokesh doesn't wear a mask.

What is so special about you, /u/flytape , claiming to be man of the people, that requires you conceal your facial identity while you claim to be working in the favor of people who do not hide who they are?

Why

I've had numerous death threats, people who tell me that if they find out who I am they will do everything in their power to get me fired, my children taken away, killed. etc etc

I have no idea why I would wear a mask.

Have you seen the witch hunts that reddit has produced? they have gotten people fired and worse. I'll wear a mask and you have no right to force me not to.

No i'm not showing my face, Go away. Get over it.

I'm not Dahboo7, Rense, or Adam Kokesh. I don't want my Identity revealed to the world. SORRY

Why don't you dox yourself? Everyone on reddit is hidding behind an anonymous handle. They can reveal themselves if they want to, or they can remain hidden. reddits rules support this, and I choose to remain hidden.

Its not your business or your choice to make.

and don't even try to start with the "death threats" BS excuse you always claim whenever anybody questions you.

I've had numerous death threats, people who tell me that if they find out who I am they will do everything in their power to get me fired, my children taken away, killed. etc etc

OH wow, just as I predicted, here's you tired old "death threats" excuse.

I have no idea why I would wear a mask.

Sarcasm, hilarious.

Have you seen the witch hunts that reddit has produced?

Yes and they are laughable and pathetic, and of no consternation to me or any other sane person.

they have gotten people fired and worse.

Care to show? I do not remember those.

I'll wear a mask and you have no right to force me not to.

Oh wow, an actually true statement. Shocking.

No i'm not showing my face,

What are you hiding?

Go away.

LOL, says the mod to the user who has been a member on /r/conspiracy for longer than your account has existed. This is how you behave as a moderator? How are you fit for this position when blatantly disrespecting well known positively contributing members?

Why don't you dox yourself?

What kind of idiotic question is that?

Everyone on reddit is hidding behind an anonymous handle.

That is straight up untrue, a bold faced lie.

My handle is not anonymous, and neither are thousands of other usernames.

Why do you blatantly lie so much?

OH wow, just as I predicted, here's you tired old "death threats" excuse

Of course I did because its pretty obvious why I was wearing a mask.

Care to show? I do not remember those.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/15/michael-brutsch-reddits-biggest-loses-job-identity-gawker_n_1967727.html

What are you hiding?

My face.

What kind of idiotic question is that?

Well since that is what you seem to want me to do, why don't you do it yourself?

Of course I did because its pretty obvious why I was wearing a mask.

Nope, false, it's not obvious. Nobody outside of people who you have told knows that you have had ANY death threats sent your way.

What is obvious, is that you explicitly choose a very bizarre looking mask that does not have a "normal" appearance, thus making you look not "normal", perhaps a little "crazy", which appears to have been the intention.

Keep making excuses all day long, I know they're excuses and I'm not buying them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/15/michael-brutsch-reddits-biggest-loses-job-identity-gawker_n_1967727.html

Rofl, the man was literally trolling in an explicitly offensive manner just for the sake of his own amusement.

There was no witch hunt, he just slipped up and blew his cover of "anonymity" and his terrible inhuman behavior finally caught up with him.

He allowed himself to be exposed, people viewed the information and figured out who he was, and it all caught up with him.

Give me a real example of somebody who actually had something unfair happen to them, because this guy was rightly exposed for the piece of trash that he is.

"Nothing like living in the US with a disabled wife and no health insurance,"

Because you lost your job for posting sexually explicit pictures of women to the internet without their knowledge or consent. The fact that they "brought it upon themselves" by wearing skirts in public that allow people to take upskirt photos doesn't act as any form of defense for his actions.

What are you hiding?

My face.

And a whole lot more.

Well since that is what you seem to want me to do, why don't you do it yourself?

Wow, can you please stop making false claims? How will revealing your face allow you to be doxed? Can you please explain that to me, because I do not understand how that works.

A static image or something would be a bit less ridiculous.

How is this guy still a mod here?

/u/Flytape is obviously controlled opposition.

Just stating what I just did will lead to them attempting to ban you, another clear sign of who they are, because they know people know and wish to not be publicly called out.

I bet you /u/Flytape and /u/BiPolarBear0 and some other users created /r/conspiratard themselves, and use it as a false flag opposition force.

This makes it easy for them to claim that things are being suppressed "by the tards brigading" so as to convince people that whatever is being suppressed must be "legitimate" because "why else would they brigade it?".

Perhaps this is a diversionary tactic to make people buy into disinformation as being credible.

This is how you have to think, because these people are far more clever than I have just demonstrated.

Doesn't matter if he's a shill or not — he cannot responsibly conduct himself as a mod here. He's been involved in WAY too fucking many problems. He needs to go.

Did u know he banned me?

I thought it was from Eyes Wide Shut, or maybe Brotherhood of the Wolves

Oh I'm not referring to where the mask might be from. Just that wearing the mask is a poor choice.

I concur.

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His mask reminds me of those masks used by doctors during the Black Death, seriously wtf. People will think this Subreddit is just full of crackpots from the middle ages. This podcast was awful. Everybody in this Subreddit hates Flytape, this podcast seals it.

What did TIL do to spotlight this place?

How many here would not want to keep their anonymity? The mask as I see it fills a purpose although it looks stupid as hell.

As long as it isn't a Guy Fawkes mask, who gives a shit? Clearly, the mods don't speak for everyone and are entitled to their own opinions, just like everyone else here.

This is where you're mistaken.

Mods do speak for everyone here especially when it's a STICKY.

They're not like everyone else here — they can push anything they want to the top.

Just stop. This is some BS.

You have a point, as to content they choose to sticky being representative of the community. That's a given. On the other hand, this is reddit, and the Internet, a casual environment, hence it should not be expected let alone required for them to be humorless automotans with no opinions of their own. The mods each have their own views and conspiracies they believe in and others they do not, which is standard for any user here and perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned, even if they happen to believe in something controversial I strongly disagree with. You're never going to please everyone. It just isn't possible, nor is it reasonable to expect otherwise.

IMHO as mods they should limit there actions to reporting on real issues that we all agree need to see the light of day and less giving their own opinions, as they have been put in a position or put themselves in a position to be a voice for r/conspiracy.

To add a bit further I saw the video, and i guess my feeling was, "What do we have to hide?" and why are we talking about petty things that dont matter in the grand scheme of things. At the same time if their was good intentions behind this then I appreciate the step forward to try something new.

i actually addressed this very topic in the podcast.

I don't speak for anyone here, I just mod here. People have unrealistic expectations from the mods to be some sort of PR wing of the conspiracy movement. We are all just individuals.

But by using the name /r/conspiracy you are indeed soaking for everyone here in this sub, without even clearing it with them first. You being a mod here clearly indicates you were speaking on behalf of this community, otherwise you wouldn't have named it /r/conspiracy!

You know damn well if a mainstream media outlet were to see your little Nazi snoovatar, they would absolutely try and say that all of /r/conspiracy are Nazi sympathizers. Your a fucking mod, ACT LIKE IT! Did you really thick that Wearing a fucking ski mask would help this sub, or hurt it? Do you really expect people to take you seriously with a mask on smoking weed?

I'm completely cool with a weekly podcast that involves and includes the entire sub here, not just the mods or a few handpicked users who will speak for the entire sub.

I'm completely cool with a weekly podcast that involves and includes the entire sub here, not just the mods or a few handpicked users who will speak for the entire sub.

Make it! For the love of god make it but quit bitching about other people's stuff they did.

I wasn't smoking weed either. It was a vapor cig. get over it.

I dont agree, if I was a mod I would hold myself to a higher standard. It doesn't matter if you think you dont speak for people, what matters is the perception that mods speak for the community. They are considered leaders weather we want them to be or not. At the end of the day when quotes come out about this sub, you guys will be the first to be heard and we will be the last. Do you really want to be careless about what you say in this community? Sorry Flytape.

So wearing a mask in a video is THAT big of a problem...

You guys are taking the internet waaaaaaay too seriously.

well I was actually talking about not asking the community about this and getting input. Mods need to take into account whats most important to the community so the correct message is getting out. The mask thing isnt that big of a deal.

If you want to do your own thing, thats fine, just dont call it a r/conspiracy podcast, IMHO

That is a valid criticism. I'm sure we will call it something else in the future.

I agree with that, in general, and that's kind of what I did as a mod here incidentally. On the other hand, I never expect other users to conform to my ideals to appease me, and we shouldn't either.

In order to have a balanced community we have to agree on ideals that are going to protect us from harm. This is one of those things that is a no brainer. I think you are smart enough to see that.

Yes, to a point. At what point is it taken to the extent of censorship? Those who oppose this sub would love nothing more than the mods and its users to censor themselves out of fear of ridicule, which is precisely why they use ridicule against us. We shouldn't lose sight of that in pursuit of our cause. I'll admit, however, I was willing to do that on occasion for the benefit of the sub, as a mod, but do not expect nor want the other mods to do the same. It should be a personal decision and not one mandated by others, and if we did it would be hypocritical to the concept of this being a free thinking ground that respects freedom of speech and expression, of one that allows controversial content not allowed in other parts of reddit but arbitrarily censors content that certain users happen to disagree with.

Well said. Well then what do you suggest, because sometimes I feel like our freedom is being used against us, when I see posts like the Holocaust being a lie (even if it is a lie) that message is being used by people that want to destroy this sub by calling attention to it in a negative light. The fact that we support things that are questionable.. even for me... I dont know what to think I dont really know what is true any more. But I know its being used against all of us to draw us closer to fascism so people in power can use that to create wars and violence.

If I had full control of the sub, I would do the following:

a) require mod consensus and common sense in allowing sidebar changes (e.g. no pro-Hitler content)

b) ban those who do nothing to contribute to the sub constructively while consistently derailing conversations (e.g. shills) and to ban any user who ridicules the sub and/or its users (e.g. trolls)

c) continue to disallow arbitrary shill accusations, unless they meet the aforementioned criteria

d) ban any legitimately racist content even if a slur is not used, to ban white supremacist websites (i.e. davidduke.com) and remove any posts that refer to 'the Jews' 'blacks' 'whites' or any other race as being inherently negative unto themselves

e) posts criticizing Israel and Zionism will be allowed at all times, any examining elements of the Holocaust critically with sincere intent will be allowed even if I happen to disagree with them personally, however only so long as they do not violate any of the other rules

f) all other rules, aside from those amended previously, would remain as stated on the sidebar, however can be removed by request of the sub after a vote.

Users who do not post here constructively and violate the rules may be subject to an immediate ban. Regular users would receive a warning and have their violations removed without exception. Repeated violations may result in a ban, however.

Axolotl and flytape have violated all of those rules, too

http://www.np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2ooful/david_colestein_holocaust_revisionist_filmmaker/

A good portion of users have violated a rule here or there, at times accidentally, which is why warnings can be useful. And mind you, those are my rules as I would like to see them, not the actual rules of the sub.

I absolutely love your new rules.

I'd adapt them personally.

I had planned on implementing them in another sub, an alternative to r/conspiracy, at a time when this sub had been heavily brigaded by trolls from r/conspiratard. As their sub is no longer allowed to link to here directly, a result of their persistent brigading, and considering the sub in question would have but a fraction of a percentage of our users, I ultimately decided to abandon the concept entirely. I consider it now more of a backup or redundancy measure, a last resort for a later point in time.

I'd be more lenient if it wasn't the same mods every time (flytape/axolotl) involved in sketchy behavior.

axolotl had nothing to do with this. Don't let that interrupt your campaign though.

choke

Moderators can't wear two hats, moderating impartially on one hand and advocating their personal beliefs on the other hand. Eventually there will be a conflict.

It's similar to a public school teacher advocating their political views in class. It's a misuse of power. Even if there are "safe" exceptions to advocacy, there will eventually be a conflict. So mods must choose one or the other.

Especially in the case of Flytape, who mixes ad hominem with banning people for ad hominem (I keep a file of screenshots of examples, if you want them, or better yet just look through his comment history), the conflict is egregious. And to your comment that "nor is it reasonable to expect otherwise, it just isn't possible" for a mod to behave like an umpire or an impartial judge, this is the first time I've ever disagreed with you. It's not only reasonable, it's non-controversially minimally expected in any position of authority.

You make some entirely valid points, some I'm inclined to agree with. The problem is you imply the mods can't express express their personal beliefs, which in and of itself is contrary to the spirit of the sub. Considering the mods are typically chosen from users who post here regularly, it isn't necessarily or reasonable to expect them to be devoid of an opinion, or to not at least occasionally if not regularly contribute their own point of view or content. As for FT, I agree that his approach to moderation isn't always helpful, however not nearly as detrimental as some claim it to be, let alone being worthy of the label "COINTELPRO". In the latter portion of your comment, you're taking my words somewhat out of context.

And to your comment that "nor is it reasonable to expect otherwise, it just isn't possible" for a mod to behave like an umpire or an impartial judge, this is the first time I've ever disagreed with you. It's not only reasonable, it's non-controversially minimally expected in any position of author

This is what I actually said, in its entirety:

The mods each have their own views and conspiracies they believe in and others they do not, which is standard for any user here and perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned, even if they happen to believe in something controversial I strongly disagree with. You're never going to please everyone. It just isn't possible, nor is it reasonable to expect otherwise.

In saying this, I was referring to their posts and comments expressing their own personal views and opinions on certain conspiracies (i.e. believing in one conspiracy or another) and in how they choose to conduct themselves when not moderating, specifically. I agree with the need for moderators to be as objective and transparent as possible, strongly, which is exactly how I've conducted myself as a mod here and elsewhere, as politely and professionally as possible in the process. I apologize if I inadvertently led any of you to conclude otherwise.

Quit your whining.

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Found another one.

Go back under your bridge.

Oh the irony.

First time visitor here and by god trollabot is the best thing since sliced cheese

Don't let certain moderators/users steer you away from this subreddit, there's a lot of real information they're discrediting -- whether it's on purpose IDK

sure, kid. keep whining.

Do i speak for you?

You try to

No I don't.

I even addressed this very subject in the podcast. You should have listened instead of impotently raging.

Have a great night.

I have zero interest in hearing Flytape talk about anything.

I concur with this. Worst possible choice for a guest, the most abusive mod of /r/conspiracy.

Lets vote him out

more like most active mod of /r/conspiracy. just because you dont like his decisions doesn't mean they were not warranted.

I do

The conversation is going wonderfully so far.

dont listen then. no big deal

I didn't. And it is a big deal because we don't like you. We didn't like you as a mod. We don't like you as a user.

You were shadowbanned, and now you're magically unbanned?

whos we, you and your shadows?

click these links in order

/u/FIytape

/u/Flytape

/u/FIytape

/u/Flytape

MAGIC

Guys, what was the point of this video?

If the intent was to establish credibility, why in the holy fuck would you put Flytape on...in a fucking mask?

Three hours of reddit mod drama and gossip. No thanks.

This is shameful and you should be embarrassed.

It's no small coincidence that your guest has been accused of siding with neo nazi types, denies it and bans people for accusing him of such. Then just so happens to have this image on his broadcast screen during the podcast:

http://i.imgur.com/6ESTYuk.jpg

WTF! Is this for real? Whoever is responsible for that should IMMEDIATELY be banned as a mod. As a subscriber and active member here, this ABSOLUTELY does not reflect me or my beliefs.

If any mainstream media were to pick up on this, and use it to show that this sub sympathizes with Nazis, all of the hard work which has happened here will be immediately discredited. Quite shocking this was shown actually.

Hard at work today I see:

• http://i.imgur.com/wqoHNKH.png

Dont try and devalue this, its an important point and needs to be discussed.

I don't understand what your trying to say, you've commented the same number of times as I have here. It's an important issue to me which obviously I'm passionate about, is there a problem with that?

Looks an awful lot like you are copy-pasting from a smear campaign script or something.

No, not at all, I assure you. It really just makes me angry that the mods are using the hard work of this community to promote THEMSELVES without involving the community beforehand.

Just because you weren't paying attention at the time doesn't mean that everyone wasn't invited to participate.

Participate by asking questions or actually participating in the Podcast itself? AATA has already clearly said that he will be the one choosing the guests, choosing the topics, and choosing the format, so if you mean we only get to participate by asking questions which may or may not be answered, nah I'm good.

Pay attention to the comments by others here, clearly in not the only one who has a problem with this podcast in its current form.

Dude you are getting played the picture was mocking the #modtalk irc channel and reddit in general as being nazi-esque why would anyone who's MUH SHITLER portray their dear leader as anyway affiliated with this shit site. The two accounts fomenting this don't even have a combined lifespan of 6 months - and they pretty clearly have a bunch of zombie accounts and some program they are voting with.

It's worse than you think http://www.np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2ooful/david_colestein_holocaust_revisionist_filmmaker/cmq7o9j

He is involved is so much BS individually, it's fucking scary that the mods still allow him here -- EVEN PROMOTING him.

Why would Holocaust revisionism be banned here?

Is there any other historical event that is not allowed to be questioned on /r/conspiracy?

As for all the idiocy about Hitler, as long as the Zionist regime is not worshipped, there will be "anti-fas" pretending to be "Nazis" in order to then point and scream "HITLER!"

http://commondreams.org/hambaconeggs

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I think you're missing the point . . .

Back at ya.

Can we get a response on this?

http://imgur.com/HDLcuLP

yep we were talking about the modtalk leaks.

Agree that the "/r/conspiracy podcast series" should probably involve the input of /r/conspiracy rather than just one mod. But I'm really feeling like the mod-bashing is getting old. It's starting to blend in with the white noise of the constant shill-calling and detracting from real content. People are mods, and mods are people. You don't have to personally love every mod, but the system is what it is. Time to build a bridge and get over it.

http://i.imgur.com/6ESTYuk.jpg

Flytape must go.

I wonder why he madea post announcing my ban

You are allowing your personal vendetta to sway you into a coordinated campaign by outsiders, I can't believe you don't see that.

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faking AMAs

Keep trying to move the goal posts there 1 month account

wearing masks

Awww what's the matter? You can't get Flytapes biometrics? You poor baby!

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Yeah that's what it is. I'm going to have a serious discussion with a one month old account who just intimated that they intentionally faked an AMA with Gage.

http://i.imgur.com/7jckjIA.gif

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• They

• I

pick one.

Mods are like impartial judges or umpires. They cannot wear two hats when one of those hats is advocacy. They must observe impartial demeanor, moderate decorum & avoid appearance of conflicts-of-interest and impropriety. None of these are controversial except to those who want corrupt mods.

The quality of this podcast was terrible. Is it not 2015?

This is hilarious and disturbing.

Alot of people are in here shitting on you, and its being done in a bit of an aggressive way. i would like to add some constructive criticism if you would like some, i have listened to so many podcasts that i feel i can help you guys /u/AssuredlyAThrowAway and /u/Flytape.

here goes:

1) get a whiteboard for all your topics, have both the same primary points duplicated on both your whiteboards for you to refer to for the entirety of the recording

2) critique your information/content that you are using for your show.

3) record your show and then both watch it together, if possible to pick up on anything that you feel is necessary to add/unnecessary to delete from the show(s)

4) i noticed there was some "dead air" in the recording, anything more than 2 seconds is bad. while this does happen unintentionally, it can make the recording look amateurish. this has the unfortunate effect of damaging your credibility. it sucks, because your content might be great, but it has a negative subliminal effect.

5) The mask. The mask can work if it has a point related to the conversation. it doesnt matter if you wear a bird mask, but it has to make sense, otherwise, you just look like a guy smoking wearing a fucking bird mask. it makes you too easy a target unless it actually means something. if it was me, and i wanted to do the mask thing, id probably do something like a Nixon mask or something similar. my advice? grow a beard and wear a pair of sunglasses or get rid of the bird mask.

6) If you decide to lose the mask, add something interesting & relevant to the background picture/video. even screenshot conversations or video/pics from recent world events would be good.

thats all i can think of at the moment, if you have any questions i'd be glad to help. this podcast has real potential, id like to see it work.

Please

1. take the official tag off the title of this post. It does not represent r/conspiracy, you gave nobody a say on this
2. respond to the post about mods using mod tools to promote their own adgenda.

no probs.

Yeah sorry man, its easter sunday here in Aus so the kids are keeping me busy atm. ill be back on in a few hours after the inlaws leave.

Excellent criticism, thank you kindly.

I don't understand all the negative comments. This a great Idea and I hope the mods setting this up don't get disheartened from the comments of a few assholes. They obviously have a hard on for /u/flytape.

If you need a guest let me know. I won't wear a mask. I'm more interested in the subject of awakening others and what we can do with the information we have learned to help change the world. I'm not particularly interested in the meta stuff on reddit.

This thread is just sad. Seeing seasoned users I had upvoted dozens of times prior now attack one another over something this arbitrary, I can't help but to be reminded of this.

Exactly what I was thinking quantum. And after watching the entire podcast I can honestly say it was a great insight into the workings and history of reddit. /u/flytape has a unique perspective a lot of can learn from. And I liked his Spy vs Spy mask. Fuck the haters.

Just now reading through this craziness and finally got to your post. I feel the same man.. My head hurts and I really have no idea what to think of all of this.

Id be down for an interview too. SUPERSEDE THE STATUS QUO!

We talk about surveillance almost daily here.

We talk about people who are anti-tptb and call for action being monitored.

We talk about people dying in mysteriously, convenient, ways that benefit tptb.

Then after all that, when someone actually attempts to do something, anything - as we're always encouraging people to do: some form of action - they chooses to do a pod cast, and because of the reasons aforementioned they wear a mask, we then call them crazy and childish?

So you might not have liked the topics? Fine, give them constructive feedback, or produce content of your own as an example, collaborate, but what does tearing down someone's genuine effort achieve?

Do not place the entire weight of representation of /r/conspiracy on their shoulders, that's counter productive, they're as they state, just individuals with their own opinions. They may be moderators, but a moderator is just a person entrusted to enforce and enact forum rules, a moderator isn't a an absolute subject authority.

This sub doesn't operate as a one narrative fits all, and just because something's posted, or someone's said something, doesn't mean we all agree and join the circle jerk we see so often in other subs - so he's said something you don't agree with? So fucking what, that's the nature of free thought and an open forum to present your ideas. It doesn't mean we have to agree and rally behind them.

For the people advocating they only choose certain content because they're moderators, content we all agree with somewhat, is really just a form of censorship - Yeah get out there, talk about the big issues, but only talk about the big issues that make us look good - the fuck. Not only is it limiting content, you're then censoring yourself on what's perceived socially acceptable to talk about, may as well make this place into another /r/worldnews then.

Edit: I don gramma gud

you posted this 1 minute after I posted my comment, what a coincidence.

r/conspiracy Moderators can't wear two hats, moderating impartially on one hand and advocating their personal beliefs on the other hand. It's the same as a public school teacher advocating their political views in class. It's a misuse of power. Choose one or the other.

To be honest, this two hat point is probably mostly due to how moderators are selected for this forum - afaik, they're generally content posters who are active, and are voted for by the community to become moderators.

So, you've got a long time poster who generally does well, receives up votes, gets discussions started. Then the community votes this person into a position of moderation because they're well known. Then you expect the them be impartial, magically, from that point on? Even though their impartial behaviour that has rewarded them to this point, is the very behaviour that made them a moderator?

Edit: delete them

I'm glad I'm on the other side of the planet.

Funny how it says /r/conspiracy in the title, but the YouTube account name is Conspiracy Mods. Don't use the greatness of this sub for your the personal gain of only a few of the mods.

If you genuinely want to have a broadcast which is inclusive and that EVERYONE here can participate in like a group Hangouts or something, great!

The narcissism of the mods here, to use the community to try and make themselves famous now on YouTube is discusting, and almost too much for me take. I'm going check out Voat.me after this

/u/AssuredlyAThrowAway @ around the 50 minute mark claims that he hasn't disagreed with /u/George_Tenet because Edward Snowden has been "trickle-truthing" information.

But the fact is, he gave all his documents to journalists a long time ago and has nothing to do with what journalists decide to publish in relation to the documents he provided.

This is a common misconception among a lot of people. (I can see how this misconception happens when articles are often titled "New Snowden leak...").

But Snowden is not "trickle-truthing" anything. He dumped the documents to journo's he trusts and THEY are deciding what to release.

/u/George_Tenet may be well-intentioned but he/she is just flat out wrong when the implication is made that Snowden is strategically and selectively leaking information.

Obviously snowden gave his stuff to glenn and laura and ewen, disregard Snowden, dont look at him. Look at how the msm, corporate controlled, tells you what to think about Snowden. Even if snowden was sincere, they are still controlling the message

Ive never made that implication. U trust omidyar? Matt taibii difny..

Also, proud to have been mentioned. Its te nay. Not te net

Was the mask really necessary? You could of just left his image off and do the podcast. It does not promote a good look and give credibility to those of us that take /r/conspiracy serious.

Oh great, some psychopath in a mask to represent us. Thanks guys.

Psychopath does not mean what you think it means.

A person suffering a mental disorder with abnormal social behaviour?

Imo, that sums this video up perfectly.

Its the first PodCast. GizaDog should have been there!

Booooooooo.

We want Jeremy Sagan!! Sagan! Sagan! Sagan!

http://911blogger.com/news/2015-02-28/911-free-fall-22615-jeremy-sagan

I posted about mods abusing their power by sticking their own stuff and hosting there own AMA's and Best r/conspiracy videos. Please contribute

Hahahaha, the "butt chugging" "why is that a thing?" "your buddy got some wine, drink it! don't stick it up your ass!"

I could really get into this podcast.

dont you guys... dont!

I hate the Bizarros...

As far as I know, Flytape is working with Mr. Dong and sovereign man in order to disrupt and discredit this sub. There are at least two more mods that work with them, maybe more.

Embarrassing and embarrassingly bad. If this isn't the first and last version of this puerile podcast, you can guarantee that the aural atrocity is a covert attempt to undermine this subreddit. "Flytape" is such an appropriate virtual mask...sounds like every possible conspiracy claim sticks to him.

It's just him and his buddy axolotl_peyotl that the community has problems with. They need to go http://i.imgur.com/6ESTYuk.jpg

Always promoting hitler junk in stickies

Anyone touting Hitler is being counter-productive. We need to focus on the here and now. There's so much shit going down and the tsunami is possibly on the horizon (though I do think there has been successful pushback by white had overt and covert forces that have slowed things somewhat). But this Hitler shit has got to go.

The main issue is that they have the power to push this shit to the top of the subreddit with stickies. It influences the whole community and this same mod + his friend axolotl are always the ones creating issues. They can't handle the power.

Thats a valid point, I posted about this weigh in.

Satirizing people for acting like Nazis is too complicated for you, eh?

Every account instigating this is less than 6 months old.

The main three including OP are all one month old. All harping on about 'cognitive dissonance'.

Appearing to consist largely of trolls from hostile subreddits and perhaps moreso banned users with alt accounts with a personal vendetta attempting to dominate the narrative and manage perceptions.

http://i.imgur.com/eCZWeSr.jpg

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Because every 6 weeks there is a new batch of accounts just like yours who try and use the same angles and spin to get the same indented results.

They're thicker than cockroaches on this thread.

Agreed. I was just thinking about that. Its not really helping us get though the real problems that are happening right now.

Always promoting hitler junk in stickies

I confronted Axolotl about this. He never responded to my reply:

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2w32u2/fake_disney_measles_outbreak_send_in_the_clowns/cooyfnj

Moderators can't wear two hats, moderating impartially on one hand and advocating their personal beliefs on the other hand. It's the same as a public school teacher advocating their political views in class. It's a misuse of power. Choose one or the other.

This I agree with, we should really discuss this. I was thinking about make a post about it and see where it goes but im not sure how it would work..

You didn't ask anything.

Im asking right now. You guys should not be able promote specific adgendas and you should not be collecting comments from the community on your own agendas.

Secondly the last thing we need right now is to be questioning the Holocaust when much more important things need to be on the table.

the last thing we need right now is to be questioning the Holocaust when much more important things need to be on the table.

Bullshit. The Holocaust lies are every bit as important as the 9/11 lies. We are forced to cater to Israel because the media forces We The People to sit through Holohoax stories almost daily. And it literally takes just a couple of minutes to do the basic math and find that 6 million is a bullshit lie.

Now you eastern european "semitic"-converts, rush to my comment page to see all the horrible jew-hating comments I must have posted on /r/stormfront or whatever. You'll find none. I have no affinity for Hitler, I am not a skin-head nor a neo-nazi, nor a supremacist of any type. I despise all sorts of superiority, whether it's kkk, aryan nations, muslim brotherhood, zionism, new black panthers, whatever. Thinking that any one race is better than any other race is bee ess. This has nothing to do with hating anyone. It has to do with hating a lie that people conspire daily to promote.

Axol promotes vaccine truth and holocaust revision as his main topic of choice—while faking AE911Truth AMA.

It's just him and his buddy axolotl_peyotl

Agreed. All the problems are with just those two, who ought to be forced to step aside for the sake of the sub

You guys are splitting hairs with taxes. You are missing the POINT.

All taxes are slavery. There should be NO TAXES. On anybody. There should be no income tax, there should be no sales tax, there should be no capital gains tax. There should be no tax on corporations. There should be no tax on people. There should be no tax on robots or cats or dogs.

You're still caught up in the old system of socialism vs capitalism and productive members vs non-productive, rich vs poor.

This is insane. No taxes need to exist.

Here is the solution:

1) You destroy central banks and their money printing to "control inflation."

Why do economists swear we need central banks? Because they print new money needed to keep the money supply from deflating. This is needed because the economy GROWS. If the economy is growing and there is no new money then the worth of your dollar/currency goes up, because there are more goods available and the same quantity of dollars/currency in circulation. In an isolated context this becomes a problem (increases value of debt) and in a global context this also becomes a problem (you price your goods out of global markets).

So it's obvious you need to print money to keep in line with the growth of an economy. That is what central banks are supposed to do. But they do it through mechanisms that benefit themselves (debt to governments), buying treasury bonds from a government's Treasure Department for which the Treasury Department has to pay monthly interest payments (bond coupons) to said central bank, thus sucking money out of the government's budget. So this is obviously an issue. You're adding a huge burden on governments for something that should be a simple mechanism, with no cost.

2) You REMOVE ALL TAXES and you allow governments to print new money for themselves based solely on the growth of their economy.

An economy grows 3-4% then they print 3-4% new money and this is their annual budget. When they spend this money, this money enters the money supply and you control deflation/inflation. This is practically an exact science, we know very close to reality how much an economy grows annually. It can be measured with high degrees of precision.

But but but, this cannot be! There is no country in the world where the annual growth of their economy is equal to their government's annual budget! Look at the US for 2014, 2.2% growth on $16.7 trillion, that would be a budget of $367.4 billion versus the $3.02 trillion they made by taxing America. You're off by an order of magnitude!

Yes, we are. But you are forgetting that you're stealing 30-40% of America's money each year. Imagine how much America's economy can grow each year if you stop cutting off it's legs every year and taking 1/3 of everybody's income.

There is no doubt that all countries on this planet could grow at sustained rates of 10-20% every year if their economies were allowed to keep 30-40% of their income. It's simple fucking math. You'll spend more and you can even save money! If the USA grows at 10% (which is highly conservative after injecting 30-40% more money into people's pockets) you'll have an annual budget of $1.6 trillion. When you reach 15% per year growth that's $2.4 trillion, at 20% a year you're making more than the government steals from it's people (i.e. $3.2 trillion).

It's FUCKING SIMPLE. It's easy. It has been studied. It is known. It must be done.

It obviously can't be done overnight. You'll need to lower taxes slowly but immediately destroy the central bank and have the government print it's own money. You start by lowering taxes to 25% and printing 2.2% of the money based on the growth. In one year you'll see the growth of the economy shoot to the roof to 3-4%. You lower it to 20% and you'll see it go to 5-6%. You lower taxes to 10% and you'll see America and all countries on this planet explode in MASSIVE GROWTH. When you hit 0% taxes we'll have colonized Mars.

I know it sounds insane and simple. Because it is. This is the terrible mechanism by which the planet has been enslaved and humanity is made to suffer.

It must end now. Do not get caught up on divisive side shows and who needs to be made more of a slave through taxes and "equalization/fairness." WE ARE ALL SLAVES. And there is a simple thing we can do to free ourselves.

omg dramatic much? I dont think he is hated.

I was telling a user to fuck off who was ACTIVELY WITCH HUNTING A MOD FOR NO REASON.

If your proof is one comment I made last year to a guy who was eventually banned by reddit for vote manipulation in /r/conspiracy then you're on the wrong team.

Relax man. I didnt quite get what you were trying to say with that link. your saying that because he said fuck off that he should not be an admin?

I believe so.

There are indeed examples of 'false flag' racism here, of users posting content they do not believe in to troll and brigade this sub and make it appear racist, as evident in the mod leaks and as admitted to by certain users previously. I also acknowledge there is indeed a handful users who unfortunately post legitimately racist material here and there, users I would ideally ban were the other mods not opposed to it out of concerns of censorship, which is at least somewhat of a valid point. In regard to the Hitler doc posted on the sidebar, that was a decision made when I was not active as a mod here nor using reddit in general, and one I would have opposed vehemently if I were.

Well said. Well then what do you suggest, because sometimes I feel like our freedom is being used against us, when I see posts like the Holocaust being a lie (even if it is a lie) that message is being used by people that want to destroy this sub by calling attention to it in a negative light. The fact that we support things that are questionable.. even for me... I dont know what to think I dont really know what is true any more. But I know its being used against all of us to draw us closer to fascism so people in power can use that to create wars and violence.

I absolutely love your new rules.

I'd adapt them personally.

no need to apologise mate, just look at each comment for what it is, not what it could be.....