GoPro goes to 80,000 feet.

GoPro Stratosphere flight.

Toy Robot 95,000 feet up

GoPro 109000ft.

The way the planet seems to oscillate in these videos is making me experience motion sickness for the first time.

Because I'm not a flat-earther. So you're not asking me the question.

I was just posting them so people could decide for themselves outside the confines of the flat-earth narrative.

I'm not sold on it, but I find it interesting about the UN flag and the fact that people are not allowed to go to Antarctica and if you are let in, it's heavily controlled.... It's curious.

The UN flag is the model for the flat earth..

A bit curious but I think the reason is for conservation, so loads of oil companies don't dig it all up.

Could be or there are others on the planet with us, ;) lol.

Also there is the strange British expedition at the end of WW2 which ended very quickly, maybe some sort of nazi base?

The Nazi's were very interested in Antarctica and did perform explorations, we also brought these very Nazi's back into various agencies via Operation Paperclip. What did these explorers/scientists really know. Many of them headed the various space/jet programs.

At the end of the day, idk. I think it's novel to think about, plus I have an over active imagination and do not trust any "authority". I mean we have never been to space personally, the only ones who "have" are from a government agency and they are telling you.

I think that map is used to show that the world is equal

Not sure how that map shows we are all equal. Looks like hidden in plain site to me, but could be wrong.

We have known for 1000s of years that the earth isnt flat.

Watched this video a few nights ago and it goes into the Masonic element of it and how the ancients realized the earth was flat, up until the Free Mason's came along, via Pythagoras..

I also don't know anyone who was personally in WW1, does that mean it didn't happen? Of course not

Fair point, the only difference is that WWI was a world war, we have footage and civilian testimony. The space program is only verified by the government (NASA and other governments). What civilian has gone to space to testify the validity of what the governments are saying?

Edit: from the doc I linked about the UN flag and the Free Mason connection: http://imgur.com/MQojJsJ. 33 is highly symbolic within the Free Masons.

The moon is round, the sun is round, jupiter is round, mars is round.

How would the earth have formed? and what path does the moon follow around a flat earth?

and what would even be the point of concealing the earths flatness?

The moon is round, the sun is round, jupiter is round, mars is round.

Says who? Have you actually ever saw any of these things with your own eye (telescope), or through the lens of a NASA camera?

How would the earth have formed?

Why couldn't a flat earth be formed? Why would it need to be a sphere and not say a cube (hypothetical)?

and what path does the moon follow around a flat earth?

Well, if the earth is flat it's pattern would coexist with the sun's pattern, hence the eclipses. These two celestial bodies would revolve around us, not vice versa.

and what would even be the point of concealing the earths flatness?

Many reasons. Extra real estate, extra natural resources, or even there are other species amongst us coexisting.

I'm not saying I believe it, but, it's a thought exercise. I question a lot of things and think this is a novel conspiracy theory. That is the point of humans no, to question?

Yes, telescopes Ive seen venus. Its round.

To look at planet formation, you have to understand gravity and fields of influence. Much like a bubble underwater, or a soap bubble in air, or even drops of water.

Youve seen footage of water in space right? or the vomit commit right?

Matter congeals to a focal point.

If the earth was a disk, the moon would have to be orbiting around the perfect edge. We would only be able to see the moon as a half in the horizon.

Otherwise it couldnt hold an orbit and would just be pulled into the earth. You see, there is no force keeping the moon up in the sky.

Yes, telescopes Ive seen venus. Its round.

Post some pics next time. If you get a good pic, post it. I've been watching the skies for years, and I'm not convinced it's a sphere.

Much like a bubble underwater, or a soap bubble in air, or even drops of water.

Drops of water are pear shape, not a sphere.

Youve seen footage of water in space right? or the vomit commit right?

I've seen what they've shown me, yes. I'm not convinced though, because I've never been there. Maybe when civilian outer space travel is a thing, we can clear up all this mumbo-jumbo. Hopefully, it's in my life time, still young.

Matter congeals to a focal point.

Need some evidence of this.

No drops are round. They only appear pear shaped because they squash and stretch

https://youtu.be/ynk4vJa-VaQ

Plenty of civilians have been in the vomit commit. Unless you don't count super models as civilians.

Water molocules forming spheres is your evidence.

My point?: you asked why it couldnt be a cube. So i explained.

Big bang is just one of several theories. My view is that there is no God or higher power.

Plenty of civilians have been in the vomit commit. Unless you don't count super models as civilians.

Wat?

Water molocules forming spheres is your evidence.

How is that evidence, they don't form spheres?

My point?: you asked why it couldnt be a cube. So i explained.

I never said it was a cube, I said why does it have to be a sphere, why not some other shape.

Big bang is just one of several theories. My view is that there is no God or higher power.

That's fair enough, I believe in some intelligent design, I'm not religious or anything, just believe there was some being/s involved.

Like I said, thought experiment, I'm not sold, but like to think about these types of things. Devil's advocate if you will.

Kate Hudson has been in the vomit comet.

water droplets do form spheres. I literally gave you a video

soap bubbles form spheres. air bubbles underwater form spheres. lava lamp globs form spheres.

Matter is attracted to matter. The more dense an object is, the more it attracts. Therefore, the most dense area becomes the center, the focal point. everything stacks evenly around trying to get closer to the center forming a sphere.

Again, if the earth isn't round, the moon is held up by magic. Because otherwise the moon would just crash into earth.

Also it would move really eraitcally.

Kate Hudson has been in the vomit comet.

So she ( a Hollywood model) was in a plane that says to give you zero gravity and this is proof of space? I'm not following.

water droplets do form spheres. I literally gave you a video

That video does not prove anything. All you have to do is watch a sink faucet dude.

Matter is attracted to matter. The more dense an object is, the more it attracts. Therefore, the most dense area becomes the center, the focal point. everything stacks evenly around trying to get closer to the center forming a sphere.

According to the official science. How do we know what is in the core if we do not have the ability to dig that far down?

Again, if the earth isn't round, the moon is held up by magic. Because otherwise the moon would just crash into earth.

No, not magic. Just science we aren't aware of. Why would the moon crash into the earth? Think satellites.

Also it would move really eraitcally.

Why would it?

You said civilians. I just named a civilian.

Droplets are round. The video shows round droplets. They appear pear shaped at speed. Im thinking youre trolling now.

By the core, i mean the core of anything.

Satalites are in geosynchronous orbit. Im suprised you believe they are real. Satallites couldnt exist if the earth were flat, we would send them up and they would come back down.

Basically, if we look at the moons positioning at different points of the earth, at different times, and translate it to a flat earth model, it would go back and fourth, not a circle.

You said civilians. I just named a civilian.

Who went into an airplane and dove to experience 0 g, dafuq is your point? Which also gives credence to the ISS. Are they on a diving plane?

Droplets are round. The video shows round droplets. They appear pear shaped at speed. Im thinking youre trolling now.

Not trolling, but having a discussion. Stop being so butt hurt about people asking questions that go against your world views. I did not see that in the video and checked my faucet (easy experiment).

Satellites are in geosynchronous orbit. I'm surprised you believe they are real. Satellites couldn't exist if the earth were flat, we would send them up and they would come back down.

Why? I never said any of that. Just because they say they zoom around a sphere doesn't mean they do. It's all based on classical science. I'm saying something fringe (devil's advocate). Have you actually seen a satellite orbit a sphere?

Basically, if we look at the moons positioning at different points of the earth, at different times, and translate it to a flat earth model, it would go back and fourth, not a circle.

Wrong, the case would be the opposite. If you take a helicopter and hover it for x amount of hours you would land in a different place, maybe Nepal or Europe. But, that doesn't happen, why? The earth apparently isn't moving.

Break free of your traditional thought and open your mind. This is a thought experiment and you are failing.

you can literally see the ISS with a telescope.

I was annoyed because you refused to understand why water droplets are round.

Now see now see, you just said something that proved your ignorance of physics with the helicopter thing. Lets say youre in a car going 70 mph, and you toss a coin in the air.

tell me why that coin does not shoot to the back of the car at 70 mph.

Traditional thought is that there is a god. That man was created and is special. Maybe you're the one failing?

P.S. you keep asking what my point is. Every time I answer one of your queries you cant refute, you ask what my point is. Troll tactics

A troll tries to provoke you into irrationality. I'm simply asking questions. BTW, a coin cannot hover like a helicopter. You've given me the classical science of things, which this theory refutes (ie. doesn't apply). You cannot break from this mentality and I'm sorry for you. I actually have a degree in astrophysics. I like to question the out of norm. You attack what your master's tell you to, smh. Gnite.

Ok. lets put a small rc helicopter in a van going 70 mph. Why doesn't the helicopter slam into the back of the van at 70 mph?

You don't have a degree in astrophysics. You don't even know how regular matter works.

This isnt classical science, this is observable science. Ive given you everyday observable sphere formations. You outright ignore them.

Ok. lets put a small rc helicopter in a van going 70 mph. Whu doesn't the helicopter slam into the back of the van at 70 mph.

I told you, one helicopter could end this debate.

You don't have a degree in astrophysics. You don't even know how regular matter works.

You have no idea who I am, what I've studied and what I'm doing. Fair enough, this is the internet. I could show you my degree, but you would still cry wolf. Believe me or not, idc, I know what I've studied and this shit isn't adding up. I know more than what I lead on, but have been playing devil's advocate. I repeatedly said this. Piss of troll.

This isnt classical science, this is observable science. Ive given you everyday observable sphere formations. You outright ignore them

No, it's classical science that you are taught. If the earth was flat, all the science/math would thrown out the window.

on the formation of cubes:

cubes do form in nature during crystallization processes. But you see they form from within a solution outward.

Where as spheroids form from outside matter to a central point.

Your point? I guess that would go against the big bang... Yea, all of this would be. It would suggest a completely different theory of things and how it was all created.

Anyone can go to Antarctica. They even have openings for dishwashers.

http://www.usap.gov/jobsAndOpportunities/

The fact that the moon disappears over the horizon. If I hop in a plane and fly toward it, I can see it again. Same with the sun.

Yes. I mean, the very concept of time zones requires a spherical earth.

It was originally a piss take. Some have taken it too seriously.

It doesn't disappear beneath the horizon. You can zoom in on the ship with a camera/scope and it will re-appear .

https://youtu.be/ZHxKK-HkEzY?t=28m27s

If you believe in a flat earth then you are ignoring all the evidence. People have known for thousands of years

What evidence are you talking about? The ancient cultures all knew the earth was flat. https://youtu.be/XH86yBK-ZsY

Just admit that you have never researched this topic for youself and are only going on what you've been told.

Since at least the Greeks the earth has been known to be flat

I agree.

What evidence did you point out? Gravity is just a made up word by the Freemason Issac Newton to try to make the 1000mph spinning globe theory work. Newton never finished the gravity theory and to this day we do not understand the force of "gravity". Things that are heavier than the medium around it fall, things lighter (like helium) rise, simple as that.

Here is private balloon footage showing that the horizon is always at eye level and flat. Often balloons (and the Red Bull jump) always have a fisheye lens so it distorts the image, If there is no fisheye lens the horizon is always flat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcteYfOMgJg

Here is a video about the ancient beliefs of flat Earth. https://youtu.be/XH86yBK-ZsY?t=1s

I know it is hard to believe that we have been lied to like this, but I haven't trusted the NASA priest class for sometime now (or any other arm of the Government for that matter) so It does make sense if you research it for yourself instead of just listening to what the "authority" tells you.

Of course, let's ignore all the evidence for it and be crazy!

The only crazy thing is believing that we are spinning 1000mph while traveling 67,000 mph around the Sun and never ever feeling any motion. If you had never been TOLD which was "correct" you would say that theory is much crazier than the obvious flat motionless Earth.

Since the Greeks most scholars have known the earth is a sphere, the idea that people thought the earth was flat previously was invented in the 1800s.

Pythagoras (who was part of the mystery schools) presented the idea and the Freemason Copernicus picked it up. If you think that flat earth was invented in the 1800's you are just ignorant. Did you not see the Ancient Flat Earth video I linked?

Why don't people fall off the world? What is below the earth? How can I fly around the world, sail around it?

I might as well stop wasting my time discussing this with you because you are too brainwashed to even research anything on your own.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Flat_earth.png

An ice wall "Antarctica" surrounds the edge. You can travel around the world east to west or west to east (by boat or plane. Nobody has ever circumnavigated North to South, because you can't. I don't understand "basic science" but you can't fathom how someone could travel around a flat disc? If you ever actually research this stuff you realize how much more it makes sense than the magic ball theory.

http://youtu.be/VNqNnUJVcVs here you go, you should be able to get this

I've already seen this video along with almost all of them on the subject.

Also in this video he uses the Flat Earth Societies BS saying that the Earth accelerates upward to account for "gravity" which is not true. There is no such thing as "gravity". The FES is controlled opposition to try to make the whole thing look like satire.

How is there no such thing as gravity?

It is just a word made up by the Freemason Issac Newton to magically "explain" all the crazy inconsistencies of the magic spinning ball theory. Things that are denser than the medium it surrounds fall and things less dense (like helium) rise, that simple. The stars are luminaries, the planets are just 'wandering stars' they are not terra firma planets like we've been told.

So by your logic gold would fall through the ear because it is dense.

Gold is heavier/denser than the air, not the earth if that's what you were trying to type.

Of course stars aren't real, what knowledge

Learn to read, I said Stars are light I never said they weren't real.

I think you need to learn about basic science

You aren't interested in learning anything so stop responding and continue worshiping Neil DeGrasse, Bill Nye, and all your other "Authorities" that you get your "basic science" facts from. Have fun on your 1000mph pear shaped oblate spheroid as your high priest Neil DeGrasse calles it.

Uh no it doesn't. Have you ever tried to zoom in on a ship after it went "under" the horizon?

stop caring about the sub's reputation.

this IS THE place for crazies.

Another problem with this sub is that it is prime recruiting ground for nazi groups.

The fuck?

Another problem with this sub is that it is prime recruiting ground for nazi groups.

The fuck?

you can literally see the ISS with a telescope.

I was annoyed because you refused to understand why water droplets are round.

Now see now see, you just said something that proved your ignorance of physics with the helicopter thing. Lets say youre in a car going 70 mph, and you toss a coin in the air.

tell me why that coin does not shoot to the back of the car at 70 mph.

Traditional thought is that there is a god. That man was created and is special. Maybe you're the one failing?

P.S. you keep asking what my point is. Every time I answer one of your queries you cant refute, you ask what my point is. Troll tactics

How is there no such thing as gravity?

It is just a word made up by the Freemason Issac Newton to magically "explain" all the crazy inconsistencies of the magic spinning ball theory. Things that are denser than the medium it surrounds fall and things less dense (like helium) rise, that simple. The stars are luminaries, the planets are just 'wandering stars' they are not terra firma planets like we've been told.