Xpost this to Subreddit Cancer if you haven't already. This type of shit needs to stop.

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I agree, but the only way to fight back against this nonsense is by exposing it. For every one of us that realizes reddit is dead, there are 10,000 that have no idea

Could you give me an ELI5 of why Reddit is dead?

This is certainly a bit more than you bargained for, but here's a link to the 3rd-top post in this sub. Basically an extensive list of reasons why Reddit is dead. If you haven't read it already, you absolutely should.

So where do we go now? I went from 4chan to reddit. Reddit has fallen apart.

I ain't going back to Funnyjunk man. I served my time in hell.

Time to go Valhalla.

WITNESS ME!!

SHINY AND CHROME :D

*spray paints mouth silver*

I skipped over funnyjunk and 9gag because cancer.

Never been, 4chan escapee here.

Back to Digg?

I visited that place recently, I didn't recognize any of it.

hubski

Oh god no please don't send me back to middle school like that

Whenever something like this comes up, people refer others to Voat.

Just so you know, I stole all the good Pokemon names

Goddamnit.

Is there a Voat app? I Reddit via mobile.

One app is called Versa.

It's really boring though.

Obviously. It's not like content is going to magically appear. People need to actually join and post things.

Thank you. After reading this tread and a few referenced threads I was becoming a little disillusioned.

I joined Reddit a few years ago and recently returned. The main attraction being that the community were the main driving force behind what was promoted... how wrong I was.

You pointed me toward Voat and their philosophy seems more to my liking. I know its not a be-all utopia but nothing is perfect. However, I'm voting with my feet.

Goodbye Reddit. Hello Voat.

Just registered thx :-)

Thanks.

Voat.co. It's the 8chan of Reddit and run by an anti-SJW / anti-bullshit, free speech friendly administrator. It has transparency lists for moderators and the actions they take and other sorts of goodies that Reddit does not have.

Remember; civilization was not built in one day- nor will Voat. Don't be a 99% and not contribute- join the 1% and contribute to the website, and help grow it. Reddit was incredibly small and nearly the same when people made the transition from Digg to Reddit.

Does being an egalitarian make me a SJW?

Does immediately discounting the opinions of anyone who would use the term "SJW" non-ironically make me close minded? These are questions we may never know the answers to.

I believe in equality and peace.

Absolutely not does that make you a SJW; I believe in the same things and absolutely abhor them.

Just because people value free speech and defend the rights of racists bigots and pieces of shit (like the guy that called you a hippie) doesn't mean they support those groups, which SJWs can't seem to tolerate. They are professional victims and coddlers, constantly looking for outrages or perceived offenses.

I'm fond of the phrase "offense cannot be given, only taken." To believe otherwise cedes control of your mind to others and then you are lost.

You sound like a fucking hippie.

nah, I'm an optimist and an idealist

Im some guy browsing reddit

Does immediately discounting the opinions of anyone who would use the term "SJW" non-ironically make me close minded?

That pretty much nails the definition of close-minded, so... yes?

Huh, learn something new every day. I'm still going to do it, much like I do with people who use the N-word or try to convince me of things with a faith argument, but it's good to know!

Knock yourself out mang. My jimmies have kevlar fiber woven in for minimum rustle.

SJW is a lifestyle choice.

Checked out Voat. Anti fat hate all over their /all sub. Noped out of there. Edit: Not fat but glad to know where the anti-fat trolls went away.

Voat.

I went to voat. I tried to register for 10 minutes and just gave up.

Voat.co

Too bad the same shit happened at 4chan. But they are always years too late. Sites pop up and become popular amongst free-thinkers because they are not censored. Then the genius starts to get known, and casuals start showing up. Some get TRIGGERED by something they read and the complaining starts up. Jackasses with agendas and absolutely no life start showing up and weaseling into mod positions. And eventually they get control and feel self righteous - but in the meantime, the sites fall into absolute irrelevance. Other great sites are doing great things, but the pooh-poohers and finger waggers are so helplessly out of touch that they have no idea.

The one problem is when big companies start hiring shills to shit post, because they have the organisation to ruin good things. Victimhood seems to be a huge demographic they are promoting everywhere, because it sells a lot of media. They want to fertilize a huge crop of self-righteous victims who are completely powerless except for whining - and congratulating one another about their whining.

It's all about the clicks.

I, for one, have just been moving on from reddit - except for a few specific subs I still visit sometimes. There is far better internet out there, untouched by these greasy, lame, self-righteous morons.

Hang on, if it's untouched by greasy, lame, self-righteous morons, how do you know about it?

I think you're trying to make a joke, so I'll reply as if so.

I'm behind 34 proxies - it's like wearing latex gloves. So my greasy, lame, self-righteous hands don't actually make contact.

Oh, latex gloves. I see. What if you're allergic to latex, though? Are there any silicone proxies?

I don't know. But I think my XXL Dragon dildo is made of silicon. I could try typing with it?

People push voat but I personally haven't been there and can't vouch for it. They guy who got me into reddit 3 years ago was already talking about how shitty reddit was becoming but he refused to tell me what the next big thing was

I checked out voat last week. It's basically a reddit copy, but with actual free speech and less bullshit moderation. There really isn't enough content there though. There would need to be some sort of mass exodus.

I just want a fucking app

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.cesarbrie.versa

This was the problem with Google+. Everyone agreed Facebook sucks but there was no way to get everyone to move. So it flopped.

Been working for a clothing company (famous Italian "duo") for years and my xwife works for a british one, have friends in several other famous companies (living in Barcelona). They all were once fbook only oriented but it's been more than a year already where they all moved to maily to G+. There are a lot of things that G+ provides that fbook can't . Most of the companies even moved to Android phones just to integrate phone + social stuff.

Most people who think that G+ is a failure is because they only use fbook with their friends circles and has more exposure, however most companies and way a lot of celebrities are moving to G+ for long time now.

Google+ was also extremely badly made. voat is not.

Voat.co

Just registered thx :-)

8chan isn't half bad if a bit slow on some boards

Dreddit.

is recruiting?

8ch.net

8chan.

It works like reddit. You can create your own "subs/chans"

Ebaums world

Outside Jimmy, outside.

If reddit is going the digg route, where do we go now?

It's the basic forum lifecycle. Eventually enough bad eggs get in the mod pool, and self selection ends up with even more rotten ones joining them, and the good ones leaving.

Eventually, you end up with toxic mods, and a user base of sycophants, kiss asses, circle jerkers, and plain old lurkers.

I first observed this, and mentioned it even, in 1988 relating to the BBS scene. It's sort of a microcosm of the rise and fall of civilizations. You can speed up and slow down some of the cycle, but there's no stopping it. Forum Rot will turn lethal at roughly a maximum of 8 years from the birth of a forum.

And while people will still be there as long as someone keeps the power on, visit Kuro5hin.org if you don't believe me, the place will be dead for all practical purposes.

Of course, some outlast this, but usually they're novelty sites, photo sites, or hobbyist sites that are essentially a circle jerk. I mean really, how many years can you talk about AR15 platforms before people think you're freaking rainman or some shit?

Fark.com, I think that one will outlive The Onion. The Fark forum, I think that one was dead on arrival. :D

But voat.co

It's sad to see the same happening here.

https://www.voat.co

voat.co It's an easy transition

Eh, it's not really. You're just surrounded by people who like to feel persecuted and ahead of the curve on this sub. Reddit isn't going the same way as Digg — not yet, at least. Digg had....other problems.

Well, that's enough reason for me. I quit this nonsense.

Still too small. And too obsessed with Reddit.

What in the world ...

That is new, bit shocked now.

god damnit. Why does this keep happening.... makes me want to kill myself just to get away from this fucked-up world

That post is actually terrible, full of untruths and ignorance about how reddit works and why certain choices were made. I made a rebuttal against every single point he raised here. All you need to do is stop and think for 10 seconds and you'll see how he's wrong

EDIT: I also want to point out to those who choose to gloss over the post or not even read it, that the OP argued for reddit's part in the Boston Bombing:

Look what happened in the immediate aftermath of the Boston Bombing, while users were pooling resources, the website was DDos attacked to stop the momentum[15] . Good thing to, since moments later, our honest government said “Hey everybody, these two guys did it!” For arguments sake, despite anything that followed, it should be extremely alarming that millions of people suddenly decided they were guilty based on nothing more than a picture, the government’s word, and the manufactured consensus of their peers. I was on reddit in the exact moment the shift happened and NOBODY could tell me why they suddenly believed, without any other evidence, that two people attending the marathon with a circle around them was evidence of guilt.

Is that a person you want to listen to?

So because you don't like something he said, no one should be able to hear anything he says?

How about no.

Honestly at this point I don't know what to believe.

Please refer to my other comment about free speech on reddit

See the thing is, reddit promotes itself as the great bastion of freedom, freedom of expression, and all things freedom.

Their recent blog spampost promoting their belief system includes several points making reddit out to be the great haven for all things free.

Yet in fact, nothing could be further from the truth.

Shadow banning is the biggest dick move in the history of the internet, ney the history of all communications. Those who defend it, the biggest dicks.

You didn't even start to read my big post did you? Because if you did you would see the first paragraph says this:

It was designed for spammers and other people like trolls, CP peddlers, vote cheaters etcetera. The idea is that they don't know they are banned, so they won't create a new account and do more rule breaking shit. Of course the admins will not tell you.

You have no idea how much spam you do not see because of shadowbanning

Ya I saw that.

It is the same kind of bullshit you are always spewing.

So, what then? You think spammers should still be allowed to post? Cos these are people who make an account and do literally nothing except spam their business/product. If they get banned, they make a new account. I've seen people who have usernames like MyBusiness32, because they've had the first 31 accounts banned. Shadowbans prevent these. Or what about people who post child pornography? Should they be allowed to continue?

And as for your comment about the 'same bullshit I'm always spewing'? I looked at your account to see if I knew you. You post to /r/whiterights and /r/coontown. Pretty fucken obvious to see why you want to post what you want. Grow up you racist little cunt

So, what then? You think spammers should still be allowed to post?

No.

I think that reddit and reddit mod cunts need to quit promoting reddit as this great place that is all about freedom, and then censoring people. Period.

Especially in such a dick manner as shadow banning.

You wouldn't know a racist if it invaded your home and raped your wife and children while you watched helplessly having been beaten and hog tied.

Then how should we deal with spammers?

So an entire race of people should be blamed for one piece of shit? Should white people all be compared to Ted Bundy, a guy who killed chicks and then fucked them?

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But before you start slinging slurs like racist, you should head over to /r/CoonTown[1] and/or /r/WhiteRights[2] and look at some facts.

lol, oh my god. Only in this sub. Keep it classy, /r/conspiracy!

Definitely the best thing I've read all month on this site.

Dude, I'm not racist. If you'd just head over to coontown you'll feel the love. Trust me.

That's what shadowbanning is for, you fucking stupid cunt.

And I will not go to that subreddit. I do not want to hear 12 year olds telling me the plot to Law Abiding Citizen to try and get me to hate black people

That's what shadowbanning is for,

Then quit using it to silence people you disagree with and shut the fuck up.

Ok, I don't think you understand the difference between ban and shadowban, or mod and admin. Mods cannot shadowban. All I can do is ban people from subreddits I am a mod of. If I ban you from /r/askreddit, you're still free to post everywhere else. Admins are the only people who can shadowban.

Oh OK durp..

Wait, seriously? Or are you being sarcastic?

And the NSA was designed for criminals, terrorists, infiltrators and spys. The idea is that by knowing what they plan before they do it, they won't be able to hurt America.

You have no idea how many terrorist acts are prevented thanks to the good ole' totalitarian NSA spying program...

Your point? listing only generally universally hated groups as the ones affected by shadowbanning is innacurate, and borderline deceptiveness. Saying shadowbanning is okay because it stops these bad guys from potentially doing bad things is a false equivalency. To filter content for those types of posts is literally the fucking job of the mods and automods. The fact is, innocent people get caught in a shadowban without them becoming aware of it, which effectively censors those individuals, which clashes thunderously with Reddits core pseudovalues.

You should be aware it's against reddit's policy to allow people 13 and under to use the site. So go to a different website until you're a little bit older, then you can come back and talk to me

I have to go soon so I only read through your first 2 rebuttals and I have rebuttals for you.

1. If you message the admins, they can just say no and there's not much you can do. Nobody else is going to see it. Also, the admins decide what messages to prioritize, but with /r/reddit.com the voters decided what got to the front page, and thus what the admins usually dealt with.

2. Sure, anyone can create a subreddit. But all the good ones are taken. It's like with business ideas, or domain names. A subreddit created today will never compete with /r/funny or similar.

1. Well it's their fucken website, they can run it as they wish. Do you complain when you go to a venue and they tell you you're not allowed to smoke inside? Or do you accept that it's their place, their rules? And that's not at all what /r/reddit.com used to be used for. It was a miscellaneous sub for everything - imagine /r/pics, /r/funny and a few others rolled into one subreddit

2. After technology was removed from the defaults, a lot of people went to /r/futurology. It now has 3 million subs to /r/technology's 5 million. Not as much sure, but it is still a respectable amount. /r/trees became the subreddit for weed after the original went to shit and people made new ones.

1. Just because it's their rules, doesn't mean I can't complain about it. That couldn't be less relevant. "North korea isn't bad, it's kim jong's country and he can run it like he wants"

2. They were alternatives, sure. But that's just power getting passed around. I'm talking about a completely new subreddit that isn't a repeat.

1. Then you're just gonna have to live with it

2. If you don't want a repeat subreddit, what do you want? Do you just want the big ones deleted?

1. Or I could switch sites, etc. Either way I have to accept reddit is not run ideally.

2. I'd like everyone to have some of the power. Not just a couple subs.

Switch sides to what? This isn't North Korea. To where do you plan to defect?

Yeahhhh, not really feasible

Why are you being such a twat to everyone? Reddit can run "their" site however they want but I can use it to recruit people to voat all I damn well please.

Because any ignorance you spew causes more users to hate mods for no fucking reason.

Idk man this is the conspiracy subreddit so what do you expect?

Like 99% of the theories people come up with will seem goofy to any given person. I thought that was like the point. Otherwise it's not a conspiracy theory.

Honestly? Exactly this type of attitude. The people in this subreddit look for ways to feel oppressed by the mods. If you look at Exile's history, he has no content since the post that got him banned from /r/europe. How are we to know he didn't go super-racist, and then delete al his posts so we wouldn't see them? /u/agentlame has shown up in this thread and called OP a xenophobic bigot, so there's probably something that was deleted.

/u/agentlame has shown up in this thread and called OP a xenophobic bigot, so there's probably something that was deleted.

Maybe, but now you're not being any less conspiratorial than some of the people on the sub. Either could be true, but if the OP did make a bunch of racist comments don't mods have access to that type of thing? Because it seems like in their convo they just gave him ammo when they could have shut him up immediately, if that's the case.

Also to be honest, "xenophobic bigot" can be pretty subjective, depending on the sensibilities of the accuser. Some people might think that saying "Islam is dangerous" is bigoted/xenophobic, but someone else might think it's justified. Even if he did post something that someone might consider xenophobic, it's bad to shut out his position. What if one day you want to talk about a controversial topic and some mods just decide you're a bigot and ban you from tons of subs?

It is possible yes, but that's hohw I'm raising the idea: as a possibility. OP raises his points as fact.

don't mods have access to that type of thing?

Not if he deleted it. The admins might, but mods do not. We can see comments we remove from out own subs, but if someone deletes their own posts, we cannot see them.

What if one day you want to talk about a controversial topic and some mods just decide you're a bigot and ban you from tons of subs?

Then you have to deal with that. Their subs, their rules. Remember: reddit is not the government, nor the US. The US Constitution and its first amendment do not apply on this website. If a mod wants free speech in his sub, he can have it. If he doesn't, then he can stop it

first amendment do not apply on this website.

You don't need the first amendment to value free speech. The first amendment just prevents the government from getting in the way of expression, but isn't the whole point behind it that we value our free expression so much we don't want the powerful entity of the government getting in the way? By that reason I think we should still try to bolster discourse, and not just shut people up behind the excuse "What, I'm not the government so it's ok when I do it". I'm not saying that mods should be forced run their subs in a certain way, but just because it's not government mandated it doesn't mean that a person shouldn't have open discourse, at least for the sake of reciprocation. I'm just saying it seems like a hazy and abusable policy to ban people for something as nebulous as "xenophobia".

You can value free speech while still retaining the desire to not have a troll run through your subreddit whose entire purpose is to piss people off. That person is not sharing opinions, he's just being a little cunt for the sake of it. And as much as I will probably get hated for this, not everyone in the world has the same look on 'free speech' as americans do. Americans get the constitution rammed down their throats from birth, and it grows on you (I need only point out the stereotype of "I'M AN AMERICAN, I HAVE RIGHTS" to make my point). People in other places are much more casual. I'm Australian, and we don't have constitutional freedom of speech. You know what is in our constitution? I have no idea, and neither does anyone who isn't a lawyer, because it means practically nothing to us. So there are going to be a lot of people on this website who don't share the same values as Americans, and so think that banning a racist is perfectly fine, even though it conflicts with 'freedom of speech'

As ELI5 as I can make it, SJWs working their way into mod positions on shitloads of subs to remove and censor shit they don't like and admins censor people who expose it or talk about. For example there was the guy who posted in askreddit explaining how a cabal of people from SRS gained mod positions in a load of subs essentially taking over a large part of reddit, he then set up a subreddit dedicated to chronicling all that sort of shit which got a fair few people subbed to it in one day (it was a couple thousand IIRC), he was then banned and all the other mods of that sub were banned and I think the sub was taken over by the very people that it was set up to chronicle.

There's a sick irony when SJWs act like Nazis.

"First they came for the actual Nazis..."

Feminism is an authoritarian cult. The same thing happens wherever they get into power positions. People really need to wake up and start speaking out against this cult.

You either die the hero... or...

And people say tumblr is home to the sjw

Do 5 year olds know what "SJWs" are?

A handful of cancerous mods have taken over most large subs. Once they infiltrate, they remove any decent mods, then start pushing their agendas as SJWs. Then they set up circle jerk rules where they can claim anything they don't like is against the rules and they can remove it. If they don't like you, they ban you from their other subreddits, report you to admins, get you shadowbanned etc.

The main thing here is pushing agendas though. Do you want news? or do you want news filtered through a social justice warrior's idea of what news is?

Stop buying reddit gold until Ellen Pao and the cancerous mods get removed from their positions. Start sending Bitcoin tips to anti-feminist posters instead.

Why give money to an organization trying to censor you?

Send it to posters who are creating value content here instead.

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Chairman Pao

/r/chairmanpao /r/EllenPaongyang

Check out /r/theoryofreddit, it made me pretty sad that reddit is deteriorating so fast. The only subs that have, for the most part, stayed the same are /r/truereddit and /r/philosophy

Reddit is going the way of Digg.

Reddit is dead because some racist asshole can't post a race baiting story hidden as a news story. 12 year old gets in school fight. Sure that fucking belongs in a non localized subreddit.

Because libertarians and right-wing shills are being called on their spammy BS and they are getting butt hurt about it. Moderating extreme right wing spam accounts = censorship.

Look at this guys submission history, it is all pretty much race baiting and anti-democratic stuff, no wonder he is banned from so many subreddits. There is a ton of people like this as well where you check their post history and it is just them jumping around regional subs and attacking democrats and not right enough republicans. They are either losers with too much time on their hand or they are paid shills, whatever the case though they are fucking annoying as shit and if reddit is "dying" because they are getting banned then I welcome reddits death.

EDIT

Oh I see, /r/conspiracy is only interested in left-wing conspiracies... There is no way there is a right-wing conspiracy to infiltrate reddit at a grassroots level and instill divisive bullshit right?

TIL that r/politics & r/news are hotbeds of conservative spam.

What's the alternative/replacement?

There are a bunch. For me, voat.

Start with /v/meanwhileonreddit

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I only subbed to voat but someone posted a list here of about 20 alternatives last week....maybe even in this thread? I remember one was 8chan though.

Voat.co apparently. Looks pretty cool!

WWW.voat.co

You're assuming that many of those other 10k would even care. The salient point that r/conspiracy overlooks in general is that most people agree with your points, they just don't care. There are so many compromises we make to live in a community that reddit mod abuse doesn't even register. If you wait for consensus to right a wrong you'll never see change.

If Reddit is dead, leave?

It's more fun to turn the lights on and watch the roaches scatter.

Neckbeards, damn.

For every one of us that realizes reddit is dead, there are 10,000 that have no idea

Reddit is dead???? D:

hits F5

http://imgur.com/5FDd1oF

HOLY SHIT D:

F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5

Fuckin hate this guy, gtfo with your karma grab attention whoring.

Wrong sub fuccboi

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See: /u/_____DEADPOOL_____

And, there's the reason Reddit is dead in account-form.

This dude is so fucking annoying.

Hurry before I get your username on voat.co

Big chance davidreiss would commit suicide without reddit. Don't think the admins want to have that on their conscience.

Some people take silly things like reddit way too seriously.

Like the guy that posted the three mile text wall our comments are under? That's pretty fucking serious if you ask me..

Yeah him and the guy he is writing about, both need to get a real life away from reddit.

The more time I invest in a silly thing, the less silly it seems.

Yes that could be a problem, spend too much time on something pointless and you start to belirve its important even though its not.

Don't worry about these kinds of things. It is figuratively what that sub reads: Cancer. The cycle of the internet holds true to this day. Power users will fuck a site up, and then people move on to the next thing. It happened with somethingawful, digg, even happened on 4chan. No doubt one day Reddit will crash and burn. Currently, it is what you make of it.

Voat could be different

Better to let Reddit die.

Actually, it'd be best to keep reddit going while the non-shitposters/circlejerkers go to Voat.co. the main shitposters wouldn't even notice a difference if we did it properly.

This is the 2nd time today ive heard someone talk about voat.co. whats the lure?

It's not Reddit

So Voat is the new Reddit, just like Reddit was the new Digg?

Might have to get ahead of that wave before the shit mods get the good positions.

Pretty much.

They already tried and have gotten chased away. I'm sure it will keep happening though

It was the same when reddit came about.

It nipped at Digg's heels for years until people just stopped going there.

It seems the same thing is happening now.. Voat has cropped up a lot more in threads, its only a matter of time until reddit is Digg'd

And i'll be glad to be a part of it :)

I don't know...this voat just seems too similar to reddit. I mean, reddit was similar to digg, but they both still had some major differences.

I don't see that as a bad thing honestly. Reddit is a wonderful idea and the layout is such that it appeals to damn near everyone. The problem with Reddit right now is how it's being run. We have too many corrupt mods and admins that don't give a shit. Voat is basically Reddit under different management and I think it's wonderful

I never was on Digg, but Reddit is the closest thing I've found on the internet to the hybrid of organization and anarchy that was Usenet.

The chief difference between Voat and Reddit is in the anarchy side of things. How much regulation is there, and where is that regulation coming from? In Reddit, the trend has apparently been toward a more top-down structure, where Reddit used to be (and Voat still is) more user-modded by way of karma.

The big problem with top-down structures is that, in some cases, it results in millions of users but only a handful of opinions, because if any of those users gets too far outside the accepted lanes, bad things happen to their accounts.

To me it's bullshit. Now I am a pretty conventional guy in terms of worldview, conservative, anti-SJW, anti-racist, and so on. But as much as I dislike certain other worldviews, a chief piece of my philosophy is that they should be demolished in open debate (if indeed their views can be demolished at all) and never censored away. That's not to say OT posts and untagged NSFW or NSFL posts shouldn't be deleted, because they should be. But as an extreme example, if someone wanted to come deny the Holocaust, I'd much rather have that argument than to just toss the guy out for having an unpopular point of view (no matter how stupid I might think that POV is).

So I think Voat is more in line with my philosophy. The real problem is that it lacks the critical mass of users and might always lack them.

That's the point brah. We jump ships until one isn't full of shit.

How, source?

I know that one cancer mod (britishenglishpolice maybe?) came over last year trying to convince people he wasn't bad and to let him mod something LOL. Everyone was like GTFO. I think b!polarbear tried also.

So they showed up with their reddit names?

yup

All the best subreddits (subvoates) have been taken and are just parked on and inactive, clearly waiting for everyone to come over so they have control. Guess who has reserved them all?

Who owns voat? Who is controlling it? What are the policies on free speech?

I'm not trying to be arrogant but to me it looks exactly the same including the website format except there is a lot less content

except there is a lot less content

Signal to noise ratio is higher over there. The constant flood of shit on reddit is nothing to celebrate.

Indeed. The two things killing reddit are incompetent, malicious mods and karmawhoring, shitposting spammers.

Without RES tags and filters the site has become unusable.

RES is like life support for this place

There's not as many people, so there isn't as much content. Yet.

And there wont be ever despite what people like to pretend. And if it did get the popularity? All the same issues would transfer over there instead. Enjoy.

You're kind of a pessimist.

"I'm right, and even if I'm not, it'll still suck."

Maybe you're kind of what's wrong with reddit.

But thats the future. For now you can enjoy all the subs as they used to be.

The owner is trying to build into it features to prevent the abuse by powerful people. at this point it is like reddit circa 2005, where the only users are the people who are sick of reddit's/digg's shit, but eventually there will be no one of substance left here, and then they will try to monetize the hell out of reddit, and that will be the end.

I heard reddit is somehow involved tho?

but is there an app?

Public mod logs, virtually no SJWs, commitment to free speech, currently floating ad-free support ideas to see community response... It is to reddit what 8chan is to halfchan.

OK. I'm starting to understand. I can't help but feel like it is what reddit was. Which then leads me to say "but for how long?"

Essentially for as long as it remains privately owned by pro-free-speech people. Reddit began its decline when it was sold to Conde Nast.

halfchan? people go there?
And 8chan is really still alive?

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For now. Both Digg and reddit once claimed the same.

Both of those lacked transparency and provided tools (in the name of spam) to allow the abuse of the system.

It's reddit, but you can limit how many posts are made per ip per hour and per day in your sub. You can set a 'vcm' vote count margin for your sub that can determine who can downvote. IE: a user must get a certain number of upvotes for comments and submissions in a particular sub before they can downvote anything in the sub (can severely limit the ability for vote shilling). Oh and the site owner is active and responsive to the needs of the community. He's come in, replied and fixed problems for /v/conspiracy on a handful of occasions already.

No corrupt mods

There is none. It is a shitty reddit knock off run by a feminist.

There is none. It is a shitty reddit knock off run by a feminist.

That's pretty funny, i would have said "it is an awesome reddit knock off not run by feminists", but I guess I actually use the site, so there is that.

I'm sure you said the same thing about reddit for a long time to.

Denial is a funny thing.

Under Yishan reddit wasn't that bad, and we still have a couple strongholds, like here, but for the first 4 years you could even have good discussions on /r/politics, then one by one the mods and sjws (with the blessings of the admin). There were never tools on reddit for transparency, that was left to the mods, and things like "shadow bans" were only used for spam. I would be VERY surprised if the admin at voat create a shadowban even for spam.

As soon as a decent phone app comes out I'm moving.

True, probably what will happen.

All of this has happened before, and will happen again.

Can you digg it?

No problem leaving Digg for reddit and I doubt it'll be any different the second time around.

Link for the lazy

I think so too. The owners put a person like Chairman Pao at the top, that means they want to change Reddit into something more monetizable fir a large corporation, and away from being a free discussion board. There is nothing we can do about it. They own Reddit. So moving somewhere else early seems like the best option.

Apparently some subreddits have a shared ban list

davidreiss666 is one of those mods who "oversees" 139 subreddits. While it isnt possible to do so and do a good job, it IS possible for him to ban him on 139 subreddits and to convince his friends on an offsite/private chat to do the same.

A cap on the amount of subreddits a person could moderate would be wonderful. Obviously a cop cant patrol 1000 miles by himself...nor should he be given blanked jurisdiction over 1000 miles with zero accountability.

Reddit has been using the buzzword "transparency" a lot lately. I hope this shows EXACTLY how transparent they are. Call their customer service hotline or follow the "Help" link to get in touch with the Reddit Mods/Admins and see what you can do about this.

Im just shitting you....there is no hotline or link. Go fuck yourselves, you plebs. davidreiss666 said "bye now"...what about that dont you peasants get?

As a person who lost a 3 year old account with 40k karma, 10 gift exchanges on RedditGifts, over a year of gold with months remaining, and a full friends list/tagged list that got banned for posting a business' phone number (aka "doxxing").....if you dont think this kind of thing CAN happen to you, you are fooling yourselves.

should any one person be moderating a hundred and thirty-nine subreddits?

who thinks that that's a good idea?

edit: who thinks that that's even possible?

Exactly....it is common sense to a site/Admin team that is even half awake or "trying".

Many of you would be surprised to learn that this isnt davidreiss666' first "my way or the highway" mod activity or the first time he has been caught dead to rights.

Not only is it impossible to moderate 139 subreddits...not only has he been shown to not be capable....not only has he shown to be abusive with his power....not only has he been caught in the act.....but there he is, still "doing the impossible" with the full blessing of those who made him a mod and who keep him as a mod.

It is every bit as "institutional" and problematic as the law enforcement situation in this country....and even less is being done about it.

This whole reddit situation depresses me when I think about it's implications on real life power and control.

If a mod gets off on the power and control they receive from a WEBSITE, treats those with differing view points with disdain, and does so with the help of like-minded "power hungry" mods in a figurative cigar smoke-filled backroom... (for no real reason I might add)

Then I can only assume when people have power IRL, the average citizen is fucked, lied to, and manipulated beyond belief. And probably doesn't know it. Again for... what reason? Control freaks man.

I mod a subreddit that features pictures of space ships. One of those is enough. 139 subs to mod would feel like a job.

To be fair here, it sounds like this guy really has nothing else going for him in life. His behavior strongly indicates that reddit is his life. Which is really fucking sad.

edit: who thinks that that's even possible?

I've wondered about this many times. Not gonna name any names but...

I think everyone here has noticed that some names keep coming up all over the place. I see links posted by the same user in ten or twenty different subs like worldnews, science, movies, geopolitics etc. Then I start wondering about stuff like, how the fuck do they find all this stuff? And how are they always the first one to post? And also, how is it that their posts are always making it to the top ten?

Then there was a weird episode I had where I asked a question to one of them. I did this by asking them a question in the comments section of a link they'd posted. They made a reply that seemed like it must have been based on personal information (possibly gained from looking at my user history). So I sent them a PM asking about their reply. This is where it gets interesting. I got back two replies from the same account. But it seemed like each reply had nothing to do with the other.

Something tells me that the username is just a name and that, maybe, there are multiple users for these accounts. This might explain a few things. One is the stuff I just mentioned. The other? Maybe there's 4 or 5 people on the reiss666 account. Most of them are cool, plus one neckbeard.

Guess which one is doing all the banning?

It's possible because when he bans a person from one sub he bans them from all. There, all 139 subs have been moderated. The end.

should any one person be moderating a hundred and thirty-nine subreddits?

No. They should not.

5 would be a great limit.

Me.

They should limit the number of places you can mod, for subreddits you do not own, and make it person based, not account.

I run and help out on a few subreddits, but doing anything worthwhile takes a lot of time, and all of the subreddits I'm part of are small, and I have very little if any responsibility. I couldn't possible imagine doing anything useful on more than 20 subreddits at one time, and that's if I wasn't actively participating on most of them.

The reddit.com of yesteryear used to have much more news and valuable content. Today, it's all memes and shit. Reddit.com is no longer the catalyst of the Internet, it is the asshole of the Internet.

I don't think i even sub to anything serious anymore aside from cancer and conspiracy stuff. The puns kill me more than the memes. I don't open /r/physics to see a thread where the top posts are puns, sorry.

The memes will grow tiresome, trust me.

Even more stupid than the puns...

As "bad" as the old default subs were (liberal /r/politics, /r/atheism, etc.) they did serve as "moat" - keeping the blithering masses back that eventually dragged reddit down to a lower-common denominator of quality and humor.

It's the same reason Two and Half Men is one the most popular shows. The more people you add, the dumber they get.

No, the old default subs were what made reddit.com.

Not the new shit. The new shit is what brought reddit.com down.

Agreed. When Conde Nast took ownership, they maximized the user base by opening the floodgates and nearly completely ruined what made reddit so special.

Remember "Random Acts of Pizza" or how the top comment in every article was ACTUALLY relevant information, properly sourced facts, or real professionals chiming in on the topic?

This used to be a positive, enriching community that went out of its way to help/donate to causes...

We are in complete agreement.

It's a shame.... what's happened.

I called the dude up who built jaanix.com and I tried to get the code for that... I also tried to help voat by advertising for them and posting.

Somebody needs to step up ... cuz I don't see reddit.com making it anymore.

Shit, I cannot reply to your post again ... it's ghosted.

But "how the top comment in every article was ACTUALLY relevant information" - BINGO

That's the old reddit.com right there - I never had to click the link... I never had to read all that shit...

You're right! That's the spirit of the old reddit.com - I could just click the comments link and know in 5 seconds what gives.

Thanks for showing me this sub, I've jumped into it since your comment was posted

WHOOO EEEEE!!! Some of you fellers take the internet SEERYUSS BIDNESS!!!!!!!

Not as serious as someone that needs to make an AE to post here :)

How old is this account, shit brain?

Did i say you made it to post here TODAY?

Oh god, another conspiracy! Hit the bong and watch some more "truth" videos on youtube, burnout.

snooooooore

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"No u"

What a classy response from mature, professional mods. A+, gents!

These guys are like high school hall monitors, and they're all clique'd up together and drunk on their "power". Unfortunately, they've become so entrenched within Reddit over the past 5 years or so, I'm afraid they are here to stay for whatever length of time this site remains popular. Call me a pessimist, but mark my words: They're not going anywhere, and the only thing that will ever get rid of them will be the complete collapse of Reddit a la Digg, and an exodus elsewhere.

The best we can hope for is that that new elsewhere will once again be open & free, and will remain resistant to authoritarian, manipulative megalomaniacs like these guys.

You wanna know a secret, most mods probably are college or high school students. On my old account, which I was forced to delete due to unintentionally doxxing myself and associating my company with my username, I was the mod of several subreddits. I was much more active during high school, but slowed down in college as real life hit me like a ton of bricks.

I got into fights with /r/politics mods, dealt with spammers, and at one point was in charge of over 1,000,000 collective users. The power trip and responsibility was too much for 16/17 year old me, so I just stopped responding and got other mods to do the work.

I had the power at one point to effectively turn a 30k subreddit private and ban everybody. It's amazing the power that can be given to someone so idiotic and inexperienced. Reddit is run off of volunteers. Some mods are bad. Mods who run hundreds of subreddits do it for the power. I did it because I genuinely like the communities. Now, after deleting my 4 year old account and starting over ( going to choose a new profile cause I hate the name of this one) I feel relieved.

This turned into more of a rant, but I guess the point is that reddit is not run by some professionals. We don't get paid, we don't do this for a resume builder. Some people power trip. It sucks. Reddit admins should limit the number of subreddits one individual can be a part of.

Maybe there can be some sort of reddit crimes tribunal?

/r/karmacourt is a joke

Literally

Isn't it supposed to be a joke?

IIRC it was founded in the hopes it wouldn't be a joke, but ... reddit.

Now I'm wondering how it could have been anything but a joke. What was ever going to come of it?

I'm sure some take it seriously. I've never looked long enough to care.

Wait, what? So I'm not really under house arrest?

Fuck it. I'm still not going out.

because "Hate Bans" are allowed.

it would make sense these are just kids, they sure and shit act like it and they spend all fucking day doing it.

Can someone explain doxxing and why it's bad? My user ID is based off my company name... I'm new to reddit so I'm sure I'm not doing something right.

It associates anything I do or say to my company. So if I voice an opinion then it reflects on the company and things like that. It also takes away anonymity, so now my comments can be traced to myself. This is problematic because I am then limited in what I can say in fear of retaliation from the company I work for or other things.

OK so basically it's an issue if you work for someone else then? I'm self employed and my private clients are all pretty much aware of my heavy libertarian leanings so I guess I'm fine :)

Thanks for the clarification!

Is it just me or does pandapandapanda sound like an aforementioned shill...no offense?

I never pushed my own agenda. Just showing how easy it can be done on this sight.

Your posts make it seem like you work for someone trying to give us a "secret" or a view which is probably set by something/someone. Maybe its a coincidence but maybe not. My first clue was the fact you 'had an account for years and worked for reddit' but now use a 4 day old account(yea I read the ddos story) I don't really believe reddit is run by high schoolers or non paid volunteers only. This is what you want us to think.

I think it's extremely naive to believe Advanced Publications would let a bunch of highschool kids run a site and form an agenda.

It's impossible to verify who a mod is and restricting people from the volunteer position would wreak havoc on the small communities. As a former mod who was at their peak in high school, they do.

Opinions on diaspora? http://reddit.com/r/diaspora

more of a fan of voat.co myself. Voat is basically reddit but with the ability to see all mod actions; also an anti-sjw admin.

I tried voat.co but soon noticed that the usual suspects had already taken over mod positions on certain subs, such as /v/RandPaul2016 etc.

Also the inherent problem of putting years of participation into a website just to have your account deleted (digg, reddit, twitter) or the whole site deleted (ning, friendfeed, twitpic)

We need a platform that keeps the content under the control of the content creators. I haven't tried diaspora but it seems the shills are adamantly opposed to people using it, which may be an unintended endorsement ... or a trap

The thing about voat that's supposed to be good is that it doesn't matter if the "usual suspects" come over. We can see everything they do, and the admin is on the userbases side when it comes to nonsensical and power tripping mods.

Reddit, or any site like it, would absolutely FALL APART without user moderators, and creating a subreddit should mean you get to run it how you want. Anyone who denies this is just a greedy shit head who wants their OWN power to be more than it should be.

This doesn't however mean we shouldn't keep "power modding" as unreasonable and not allowed, or that we don't have to work to keep things working properly on both sides.

You will never have a platform that is perfect, and you will never have anything like reddit without people to create, mod, and run subreddits. You can however hold people more accountable, keep things more transparent, and allow for better ways to find alternative subreddits.

I don't think users should be pushing out mods for the same exact reason you wouldn't want your account deleted. Some of them work really hard to make things nice, get codes implemented properly, and keep the subreddit clear. Users can make their own subreddit if they don't like it. We just need ways to get people to be able to find them should the atmosphere of the original subreddit degrade.

Voat seems to offer most of this. You can see if some mod is nuts. You can see what kind of crap they are trying to pull, and if you don't like it, you can say something, and then move the hell on. I however would like a "related" or "alternate" subreddit/subverse button, so easily find the next biggest sub to use. I would also like a site like that to limit mod positions, based on the person not just the account, similar to how you can't use multiple accounts to downvote people without getting in trouble.

Friendfeed functioned just fine without adult supervision for several years, until it was shut down completely because there was too much free speech going on. Friendfeed owner Mark Zuckerberg cited "declining traffic" as a reason to shut down friendfeed, in spite of the fact that friendfeed never had ads, hense didnt havr declining ad revenue.

Declining traffic is not the same as insufficient or no revenue. It never made a profit and was not expected to make one.

It was always a loss service, the Facebook acquisition was a defensive measure to allow facebook users to interact with websites who otherwise did not offer FB tie-in; raw userbase numbers were not sufficient to keep it relevant in that context. As long as people had continued using it in large enough volumes to keep its systems running, FB probably would have kept it up - all it did when adequately utilized was add substantial value to their own product.

Contact the administrator about it. He has a zero tolerance rule about cancer coming over and squatting subverses.

I recently deleted my 5+ year reddit account because I wanted to start fresh. No one gives a shit about upvotes etc anyway.

I highly recommend it.

fair enough re. the risk of shut down, and the crux of the issue being having control over your own voice.

Also the inherent problem of putting years of participation into a website just to have your account deleted (digg, reddit, twitter) or the whole site deleted (ning, friendfeed, twitpic)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFwcBBmgOe0&t=4m18s

Tell the admin. Or request a takeover

Yeah voat where you have to be popular to vote and they want to pay power submitters.

That's gonna work real well.

It's time to migrate I think. Those hitler mods will be the end of a good community.

RIP reddit 2015.

I'm just waiting for a viable alternative, although who knows if it will ever happen. After all the talk about 8chan, in 4chan business is as usual. Thats probably what will happen here. Please will complain but still won't leave.

I feel like an idiot in this thread, but what is an SJW? I keep seeing it mentioned.

urban dictionary will help you out

Just registered thx :-)

Yeah, what the fuck /u/psdtwk what a fucking pathetic response

Eh, I see them probably banning so many people from their subreddits for no reason that those people make new subreddits without them and the old subreddits will slowly die out. This may take years, but people will eventually get tired of the crap and move on.

Hall Monitor

The best is after they reply to you with asshollery, they then attempt to shut you down. If you reply too many times they scream "HARASSMENT" and get the admins involved for "abusing mod mail"

How do i know this? Because i've been shadowbanned for it before. And recently banned from subs i don't even sub to, and when i challenged the mods there have been threatened again.

If a mod can't have the decency to post a proper response, even towards the worst people, then they have no reason or business being a mod.

No u

"No u"

What a classy response from mature, professional mods. A+, gents!

NO! U!

So, why is some cunt the mod of that many subreddits? And not just no name ones. Seriously, how, why, and of what good is a guy "moderating" more subreddits than he could possibly view?

Power mods are the saddest creatures ever, they literally just sit in IRC all day and jerk each other off. They can mod so many subs because they have no life outside of reddit.

They can mod so many subs because they have no life outside of reddit. are paid to do it.

FTFY.

What? By whom?

I'll give you a hint... It begins with 'j'.
...
...
Jamaicans.

You've just been banned from 512 subs for racism.

Joking about the Jews secretly controlling the media narrative with money isn't antisemitic, it's anti-zionist

THE JUUICCEEE

Who's got juice? We've got a winner!

OHHHHHH!!!! I didn't get it at first! overmyhead

Ya man!

Jamaican me mad now!

Ehm... advertising companies, marketing companies, sales companies, web site owners, political interest groups, financial institutions...

Basically anyone who would and could pay to influence the news.

Holy shit, that makes so much sense.

For the longest time, I couldn't imagine why these guys would give a shit about this website and be so active.

If you control a ton of large subreddits, you can easily help out companies, or at least let them know of any bad publicity they get.

I feel so dumb for not having seen this before.

That's against Reddit's rules. /r/SkincareAddiction just had a bunch of drama about one of their mods doing exactly that.

Yeah, I figured it was, but I could easily see it happening. And Reddit is so hands off, how could they find out?

Basically, it would take a whistleblower one of them to leak it. And why would a mod who is on the take, care?

I just don't see how someone would care enough about reddit to freely all that time and energy?

Be smart. Don't get caught. Do what you want.

If it's true, reddit has become its own worst enemy

You give them too much credit. Simply being in power is addictive.

Do you have any proof of that?

Do you have any evidence of this? That's a pretty large accusation to make.

Hehehe, no I don't, but I was not accusing anyone in particular so I think in light of the publicly available information that some of these guys have been posting non-stop 24/7 over years it's quite obvious that they are somehow financially gaining something, probably not a simple promotion scam but something nonetheless. It would not be the first time mods have gotten in trouble for profiting from subs.

To play devil's advocate for a moment, your assumption is based on the premise that these 'power mods' aren't simply just really sad, lonely people with nothing better to do with their life than accrue what little influence they can over the world through the forums they moderate :P

You're right in saying that in the past there has been instances where moderators have gotten in trouble for profiting off of subreddits that they operate, but I do not believe that this is a common situation.

Ah. I thought /u/OnSpeakerCrab was under the impression that they were being paid by Reddit.

No, /u/REAGAN-SMASH's comment is indeed what I was implying.

Though I certainly don't doubt Chairwoman Pao has her fingers in the default subs.

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Yours is the first post I've seen that got me to take the decline of reddit seriously. Most of what I've seen is a narrow Ellen Pao SJW conspiracy, but yours seems more plausible as a broader victim of success sort of story.

Wow this was so long but I was fucking glued to the screen reading the whole thing. Seriously, thank you so much for your honesty. I feel like this is going to stick with me for a while.

Edit: What are your thoughts on Voat?

I know it was 12 days ago, but what did he say?

It was a long read and late at night, but this is what I recall: It was sort of like a behind the scenes look at the corruption within internet forums, specifically Digg and Reddit. He was with Digg from early on and watched it go from user-run to shill-run. He knew people with already-well-known usernames on Digg who would accept $400+ for a post from whatever company/organization. Later in an edit he admitted that he, too, accepted money for a post, and then hated himself for it and started calling out other shills and trying to spread awareness. By then Digg was already on the downfall and people started moving to Reddit... he said he's seen the same thing happen here with the big subs... my memory is a bit foggy at this point, but the next day I checked out the front page and suddenly it was so fucking obvious. His comment blew my fucking mind, I was already starting to see Reddit differently lately, especially after subscribing to this sub, but since I read that... I don't know, man, Reddit isn't the same any more for me. It's like food lost its flavor or something.

Also, paging /u/BrodaTheWise cause he asked the same thing.

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What did he say?

or are you bored and channel surfing the frontpage of reddit like someone who would sit in front of their TV clicking from one channel to the next completely out of habit.

QFT

You're exactly right on this, I catch myself doing this all the time now. Just mindleslly, aimlessly clicking on this or that link, this image, that image, amused for a couple of seconds and then completely forget about what I just saw as I click the next page of submissions.

If I really truthfully think about it, there are maybe about 10-19 subreddits I browse that are of any actual value in terms of content or images. The rest are filler, that fills in your main pages and just serve as amusing distractions for a couple minutes.

You made me re-think how I should be browsing reddit, maybe I'll cull that frontpage of all the useless garbage full of unfunny forced attempts at memes and all that useless shit.

Want to fix reddit? Take away the mods. Let the users vote up what they like and downvote what they don't like. Let the arguments recommence and the cyberdrama that entertains people flare up again. Let the vote system next to every comment and post count for something again other than being a tool to control thought

I've alway been a believer in user moderation, I've seen it work to great effect on 4chan when the few mods couldn't give a fuck about the boards and the users were mostly left to their own to self-moderate their board while mods only stepped in for illegal shit and spammers. The rest was up to us and it made for one hell of a wild west, it was fun and it was chaos, and it was free speech to the fullest extent possible - it's how the internet should be. And for some crazy fucking reason it worked because the users were smart enough to not respond to bait, not get all upitty over anything NSFW posted and immediately come crying to mods, threads stayed on topic, derailed spectaculariy and then by some miracle managed to get back on topic. Over-moderation and especially highly subjective rule enforcement and corrupt SJW mods fucking ruin everything and it's happening to 4chan now as well.

What a shame.

Fuck these power hungry, capitalist fucks who destroy our community and ruin the free internet.

This is great pasta

SOMEBODY CALL THE WHAAAAAMBULANCE.

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muh bad.

he does it for free

This is an excuse that I don't believe. It seems obvious to me that they are payed gatekeepers. Its probably not just one guy, more likely a team of people.

Don't discount the idea that mods are unpaid. Some evidence:

• People can play MMO games (and Facebook games, ugh) for 12+ hours a day.
• Even people who work for a living often spend >75% of their day doing nothing.
• Businesses are likely averse to outright paying people because of the paper trail.

If I were trying to get myself some internet-savvy mods and needed them to be absolutely 100% locked down to follow my orders, I wouldn't use money. I'd find some existing low-level mods who fit the power-hungry personality type and compromise their computer with CP or other illegal material and threaten to report them if they get uppity.

True. Also people can be compensated, without being paid. I was a moderator on a tech board outside of reddit for a long time, and several popular users were given hardware from time to time in exchange for spamming the board in that company's favor. It doesn't even need to be a concrete transaction, as in "we will give you this if you say that". If you give someone free shit, they'll likely start towing your line of their own free will.

This is not a supposition on my part, I was approached several times by an unnamed hardware manufacturer.

I feel like you were onto something interesting but kind of lost the thread with the idea that companies are setting people up for blackmail. I have no doubt that has happened, just like I have no doubt that people in positions of "power" on internet boards sell their influence, but I firmly believe that the vast majority of the time, it's just people who earnestly believe a certain thing. After all, someone needs to be paying those shills to advance a viewpoint, and the raison d'etre of shills is to convince other people of an idea. For instance, the OP might be a Stormfront troll, he might be someone who bought into the idea of white supremacy from stuff he read from Stormfront trolls on here, or he might just be a random person who signed up here and happens to believe that BS.

I don't think you really appreciate how much people like power. Being a mod is a teeny tiny amount of it but they love it.

When I was young I volunteered to mod a ~6,000 users forum, it was the only forum to discuss an obscure game I liked a lot and I wanted to keep it thriving.

The other mods there were fucking nuts man. They talked in the mod forum about the other forums they modded and how they did things, or talked about their stats on wikipedia, that kind of thing. One of them was a mod or admin of dozens of ~100,000 user forums, and he bragged about being in the top twenty for amount of edits on wikipedia at the time, and he spent a lot of time curating urbandictionary.com. He wasn't paid, he just liked feeling special and lived with his mom.

There were a LOT of mods in that forum like that.

The kind of people that are moderators for dozens of the huge subs just thrive on feeling superior, even though that is the smallest and most insignificant amount of power possible. I promise, whenever there is a post in a moderate size sub asking for more volunteer mods, they get hundreds of applications.

If you're going to make the claim they are paid, you need to back that up with facts.

Instead of making something of their lives (most of them are depressed, davidreiss for example) they hang out in mod queue all day and they think they're being useful. It's incredibly sad actually.

Has anyone else considered that /u/davidreiss666 is not an individual but a team of individuals with an agenda?

Sure but you can't say it on reddit or your opinion wont matter with your new label.

My opinion already does not matter to Reddit. I am not one of the cool kids around here and I am fine with that. In the same way that the agenda driven group* that is /u/davidreiss666 can dismiss an entire account history because it disagrees with a single comment or post I can dismiss them as inconsequential and impotent.

*At least I hope that it is a group because if it is one person then that makes me sad that they have no one that matters in their life.

Oh absolutely.

Think about it - RES is maintained and offered for free. To the well-moneyed hands of corporations, there are entire software suites devoted to managing moderator actions, accounts, sockpuppets, users, subreddit activity and relevant details.

In order to live such a lifestyle that allows them to spend their days judging others, they must have some source of sustenance and income. Whether living with parents, state welfare, independently wealthy, etc. The vast majority of people I've run into online who have loads of time to waste are "disabled" in some way, bound to a chair or bed and never more than a few feet from their laptop.

Can confirm. I'm a cripple and I spend a lot of time online because it's the safest way for me to interact with people. I do have a life outside of the Internet, but it takes a lot of effort to make it work and I end up disappointing a lot of people when I'm unable to do something I said I might be up to.

Thanks for being a nice cripple instead of an asshole cripple

Oh I'm an asshole cripple, just not a power hungry one. But everyone's an asshole.

I thought everyone was a cripple.

But everyone's an asshole.

Most people will never admit this to themselves. Even those of us who do, it takes a good chunk of adulthood to admit that we're included.

ah, the figurative version of the word literally

Why is the top mod of /r/conspiracy mod of 54 subreddits? Why has no one had a shitstorm over this before?

Who would anyone have wasted their time to look before this? Other twat mods seeing how their dick measures up?

But ya, seriously. Why and how the fuck do you moderate anything over like ten subs? That's fucked up. I'm sure they're all aware of the rules of all their hundreds of subs and enforce the rules rather than their wills.

Yeah, I am personally placing the likely threshold of usefulness at about 8-10 small-mid-sized subs, or about 5-7 of those and 1 large sub.

I don't think major or default subs should have mods with more than 5 subs at all under their modship.

/u/LowBatteryDamnIt Here is the reply to your deleted comment.

How do you trust someone with control of 54 subreddits to not be corrupt? There is a reason power is distributed in well-governed systems. If one link of the chain is corrupt, the rest is not by default corrupt as well (although I believe that would count as a conspiracy if it were as such).

http://i.imgur.com/A3XWbmk.png (This is the top mod of this subreddit)

I'll now mention that I don't feel like the 12 subs you mod are too many or that you're a bad mod. Most are of the same or similar subject content, which lends itself to having mods that know the subject matter. I will say that even though I think that is fine in this case, it would still lend itself to overzealous modding across a whole subject in this case (if you were a huge dick that wanted to censor something or otherwise hide/omit something from the limelight).

Honestly, I'm surprised that I never hear people talk about how so many of the top links on this subreddit are posted by the same 2 or 3 users.

Idea: limit number of sub's one act can mod. Obviously you have to deal with alts but it's a speed bump for douchrbagery.

They've tried to combat this previously with limited the amount of defaults a moderator can moderate. Obviously doesn't seem to be too effective

This is what Voat does. You can only mod 10 subverses

Most mods moderate HUNDREDS of subs. seriously, just click on any mod in a larger sub. Guarantee they mod at least 50.

The top mod of /r/conspiracy is mod for 54 subs.

Second mod is only 7.

The rest are mostly under 10 modships, with one other above 20.

HUNDREDS of subs

atleast50

sure sure. 200 is the new 50?

It's at least 100.

I wonder what kind of life those mods have, doing those things all day....

That's amazing. This kind of stuff can single-handedly destroy reddit once people realize something like voat.co exists. Honestly I wish it didn't have to be like this but if the mods are going to be this arrogant then fuck it.

I saved the links and pics just in case, I suggest some of you also do this.

voat was made specifically if reddit goes to shit. Which Pao's Reddit will go. I predict Reddit to go down in 2016.

Let's hope so

unfortunately, voat right now will need a lot of tlc to make itself worthwhile. categories like r/funny are easy to fill, but niche communities are hard to move, and that's the main reason (for me) to go anywhere. it's just more convenient to stay isolated in those niche reddit communities than look for one (or make it in voat)

Yeah, I've been unsubbed from almost every default for a long time now. If you stick to the less popular subs that interest you, reddit is mostly still pretty good.

On occasion I snoop around in places like this thread and SRD and such for the sit back with popcorn, watch the world burn type shit, but I mostly tend to stay out of it blissfully unaware.

Well the small communities can stick around here just fine.

Let's Make it So.

unlikely that soon, reddit has a large base and significantly more traffic than voat (as of the source i checked about 2000 times more traffic; ~500Mil vs ~250k views per month).

Check something like /r/leagueoflegends which has a base of 650+k members vs voat has 307; despite a lot of drama /r/leagueoflegends has a very active base, a frontpage post rarely has less than 100 comments (and often several 100's or even thousands)

the best players when they make a great play on stream they say 'reddit!' OR 'we're gonna be on reddit!' to the point that everyone in the community goes to reddit to talk about the game.

as /u/iki_balam points out below i think most people don't go to reddit for main pages but the niche pages and then also view the defaults/big pages

As a digg migrator you'd be surprised how fast things can flip.

This sealed it for me, I'm going to switch over to voat.

This kind of stuff can single-handedly destroy reddit once people realize something like voat.co exists.

Most people don't give a shit that some random person was banned from subreddits they didn't use in the first place. reddit literally lets you make a new account to circumvent bans without even having to verify an email address.

Exactly. I've been banned from several places that actually ban you. No new account until you get a new IP, any posting from the banned IP wipes out the new account and all email addresses associated with it.

Both times for anti-Zionist commentary. In one case I mocked a guy who said he had been trained to find invisible anti-semitism by a poet.

Voat.co is Woahverse rebranded. It's why subreddits are still called subverses. My biggest concern is that it is a side-project, not a company, and servers can get expensive quick. Hopefully the ad model they are working on (shared revenue with users) pans out.

The majority of the internet started as a side project, when side projects become big enough they become main projects.

side project does not require a hyphen. Downvote!

A fellow grammarphile! Upvote!

The current problem with voat is that 60% of its content is people bitching about how bad reddit's gotten. I really tried to start spending some time there as I'm totally for what they're trying to do, but sadly, they're largely living in a butt hurt past and its toxic super annoying listening to high-schoolers whine continuously in the corner of my eye on every page of "content", so much so that i start to feel almost infected by the negativity there. Much like someone would if they spent too much time in the presence of, oh I don't know say... something.. toxic.

When voat and its user-base decide to actually move on from their bad break-up, it may become a worthwhile use of time.

The same thing happened on Reddit when Digg imploded. It took a good 9 months for the Digg hate and hate of new users from Digg to die off. Some changes had to be made to how Reddit functioned but it all panned out eventually. I would assume the same would happen on Voat.

So long as it doesn't end up with a bunch of terds describing everything they don't like as "toxic" I think it will be just fine.

Does Voat know you're cheating on her?

Does Voat.co also have a modding system? If there is, what will stop mods from abusing their powers like this? What if they migrate with their 'experience' as a mod to voat.co?

All mod actions and mod messages are public by default

Voat.co? Hmm What is this? Looks legit

Shit, man. I'm glad to have found voat. I don't know if I'm coming back here.

These moderators act like little kids in the mod mail.. my god they are childish.

haha, you want to see how childish they get?
http://imgur.com/a/nvRsw

After reading those messages, I don't believe you have the high ground to call a 4 year old childish, much less an adult.

Yea sorry Ransal but you seem pretty weird mate.

I couldn't finish them. Painful to read.

Anybody in an argument with persons in any position of authority (however acquired) is well advised to be polite.

I was a saint compared to them.
btw, the person you replied to is a troll, he brigaded the comment.

Doesn't matter. You need to be whiter than white.

BTW: I don't understand brigading

There are marketing groups on reddit that get paid to remove, hide, or promote certain content.

They target my posts, if anything can directly relate to them and harm their agenda, they send in trolls/alts to convince normal people I'm the bad guy.

That's why you gotta be whiter than white. Your own post shows you arguing like a schoolkid.

I've gone the whiter than white route. If you play along with them, they will use that as proof that you agree with them, then troll you hardcore.

Do not placate them, it's worse than standing your ground.

Whiter than white means standing your ground without resorting to 'you must be idiots if you blah blah' or other insulting types of argument.

You just repeat your position without lowering the tone - or even descending to the other person's level.

In one of your posts you went straight in accusing the mods of some shady goings-on when there was no evidence of such.

Understand I'm not taking anybody else's side here. I'm a litigation lawyer and it's my job to argue points with complete decorum. It can be hard, but it's good discipline.

All evidence I speak to them about I have proof of and have shown them, they continue to deny it and troll whenever it comes up.

Tell me what proof you would like to see.

I'm not going to argue with you about this.

I offered some advice; you are free to take it or leave it. I won't hold a grudge either way.

I heard your advice and am enquiring as to what you would need for me to prove to you I was in the right.

You don't need to prove to me that you were in the right. It doesn't matter to you what I think.

lol bruh, all your complaining makes you as bad as the tumbler libshit whales. Trying to be a fucking vicim or some shit.. chill out, open a new account or just say fuck reddit and leave, wtf man

They target my posts, if anything can directly relate to them and harm their agenda, they send in trolls/alts to convince normal people I'm the bad guy.

Yes, I am terrified of what a gif you've reposted from Americas Funniest Videos can do to undermine my agenda. Hahahaha.

Seems like he consistently misses the "content rules" for subs he submits to, then tries to pick a fight and spin narrative when he earns a ban.

Which one are we talking about, the one who said I'm never coming back and didn't last 30 days or the other guy?

are you serious?
30 days was a lie, it was a perm ban and still is.

"No it hasn't been a month and..."

Message the mods and get a shadow ban threat, sadly they can request and it gets done.

I have a feeling I've gotten a few of their alts shadowbanned. They've stopped responding to me completely and now ban me from any sub they have power or sway in.
http://i.imgur.com/E6xttL6.png

Making a GIF from AFV or any other movie or show is not even remotely original content.

Reminds me of one or two mods from /r/military. I got banned twice for making a joke. It wasn't anything racist or silly. I posted an article about Bowe Bergdahl, and they took it down saying it was "hearsay and not facts". They deleted the submission, and then a few hours later the same article appeared, and stayed up. I called the deleting mod out and I got banned for it.

A week later I was allowed back. Then about a month ago one of the newer mods banned me over something similar. So I just went and made mybown military based subreddit, /r/militaries. It probably will never have the 60,000+ subscribers they have, but I do what I can for any who come looking.

Just like shitheads in the real world who seek power for its own sake and their own prestige. Infantile, imbecilic, incorrigible, and incompetent.

Its interesting how irrational people can be on reddit and how much they can get corrupted by a tiny amount of power.. that no one really cares about outside of reddit

I looked through your post history and you appear to be an anti-semitic white supremacist.

Can't really say I'm surprised someone would eventually ban you.

edit: and based upon this thread you created you seem slightly unhinged.

I actually already have OP RES tagged as a racist. So while it might be a bit of mod abuse, it's doubtful he's totally innocent.

I have OP RES tagged as "fappening originator".

So there's that.

OP RES sounds like some cool shit

OP RES

OPPRESS

Coincidence?

no way. that was a great day.

I now have you tagged as "not totally innocent".

That's funny I have you tagged as a racist too.

Doubtful, feel free to link to said post.

That's funny I have you tagged as a racist too.

Doubtful, feel free to link to said post.

Irrelevant.

Once someone calls you a "racist" (or "anti-Semite", etc) you ARE a racist / anti-Semite / etc. There is no defense.

/sorry, but them's the rules!

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Removed, violation of rule #1 of the sub. Continued violations will result in a ban from /r/conspiracy.

While I agree this is quite extreme, if true, I refuse to believe this is his only account. It's not like they're rationed. He's obviously portraying himself as the victim and as soon as I saw "slandered as a racist" I didn't even have to check their history to know what I was dealing with.

This kind of time consuming reaction by a longtime power user can only be attributed to some extreme trolling.

[edit] My profile analysis showed nothing too overt but I only looked at submissions. It could be sanitized. He does seem to like men's rights, hate feminists and report a great deal of crimes committed by either women or dark skinned men.

diversity is racism against Whites.

is something this fucker actually said.

It's true.

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Why even comment at all if you're just going make a suspension point?

Could you link to that commen please?

Even if you're right, just being an asshole racist shouldn't get you banned from hundreds of subs all at once.

Mods shouldn't have this much control. This is a case of "even a crazy person can make a point". aka "a broke clock is right twice a day".

just being an asshole racist shouldn't get you banned from hundreds of subs all at once.

Honest question, why not? If he posted racist comments in one sub (this is actually a case where he did, just look at his comment history), what is the problem with other subs who have anti-racism as a policy from preventing him from posting in there? Seems like it would be really inefficient to do otherwise. He's unambiguously racist, look at his post history.

I don't think it's harsh. If he really wanted to "turn over a new leaf" and participate in those other subreddits, nothing is stopping him from making another account and just not being racist anymore.

Because then we get into a slippery slope of defining what is or is not acceptable. Is being racist a reason to ban someone? Then what if you are, according to your religion, against gay rights? Or if you believe abortion to be inhumane? Can we talk shit about Israel or is that being anti-semitic? What about Palestine? Can we be anti-immigration, or is that not allowed?

Because then we get into a slippery slope of defining what is or is not acceptable.

If we don't have a definition of what is or is not acceptable, we must either accept everything, accept nothing, or accept things arbitrarily.

There are sites and subreddits that accept everything. And of course there are others who have rules, which might prohibit any one of those things you mentioned. Any arbitrary topic could be prohibited (even unracist viewpoints) and everyone is still within their rights. The only question is, how many people would still want to participate?

There are two sides to the "free speech" coin, people are free to express themselves and other people are free to not listen. Or if it happens in a space that they have authority, to kick that person out. That is what happened here.

Of course, the people of those subreddits would not be able to honestly say that all perspectives are tolerated. That is a standard they are not obliged to have.

edit: just to add, the slippery slope argument is regarded as a logical fallacy unless it can be shown that one step is likely to lead to another. If a subreddit decides to have rules for discussion, it is absolutely possible for them to say "it is OK to discuss whether abortion is inhumane" while simultaneously saying "it is NOT OK to discuss whether some races are inferior." That is not a line a rational person would consider ambiguous.

I understand your argument. My point is, I don't want the mods, who are not accountable to anyone, to have this sort of power, to define the discourse based on their personal views, and banning users if they go against them.

Of course you can define what is possible and what is not possible to discuss with no ambiguity. But my point is that you shouldn't. But if you do, then the few should not decide for the many.

If a subreddit decides to have rules for discussion, it is absolutely possible for them to say "it is OK to discuss whether abortion is inhumane" while simultaneously saying "it is NOT OK to discuss whether some races are inferior."

There is absolutely no discussion about anything, which is at the heart of the question. The mods decided to ban him based on their own opinion of what's acceptable. That was never left up to the community to decide.

There are two sides to the "free speech" coin, people are free to express themselves and other people are free to not listen. Or if it happens in a space that they have authority, to kick that person out. That is what happened here.

This is also a problem... The relationship of power is completely loop-sided. They chose to kick him out and effectively shut him out, but we can't do the same to a mod even if we wanted to. How is that a fair system?

My point is, I don't want the mods, who are not accountable to anyone, to have this sort of power, to define the discourse based on their personal views, and banning users if they go against them.

I think this is very reasonable. I'm aware that there are mod abuses, although I don't agree that this is one of them. I think it is worthwhile to think about what kind of system we want and how it should be moderated.

There is absolutely no discussion about anything, which is at the heart of the question.

You seem to be mixing up "racist discussion" with "discussion about whether racism should be allowed." Right now, we are discussing whether racism should be allowed, and as of yet neither of us have been banned (yay!). And I don't expect either of us will be at this rate, it is a respectful discussion. (Worth noting that this wasn't one of the subreddits in which he was banned, which sort of makes my point moot, but hopefully the idea still makes sense).

The mods decided to ban him based on their own opinion of what's acceptable. That was never left up to the community to decide.

I'm glad this isn't a system in which the community decides who gets banned or not, then you will have people getting banned simply for being unpopular. There are some decisions that are not well served by a popular vote. If we are going to have a system where people can be banned, it is better to have them be banned for reasons rather than for being unpopular.

In a way, the community does decide which rules they consider valuable, simply by whether or not they choose to use that subreddit. Considering all the different permutations of subreddits out there, if they wanted one that was more open to topics like racism, they would be using that one.

They chose to kick him out and effectively shut him out, but we can't do the same to a mod even if we wanted to. How is that a fair system?

It is an interesting idea, having mods being voted in or out of power. I'd like to know about websites that have tried this and if it worked well. I'm cautiously optimistic that it could work under the right conditions. At the same time, I think it is understandable that reddit is not a system like this, as much as we wish it was. As far as popular internet hubs go, it is the very worst one, except for all the others.

Well yeah, popular votes can go either way and some things should not be let up to the masses. But at the same time, there's a lot that should definitely not be let up to a handful of people.

I guess I can sum my point of view in this way: If mods want to keep enjoying the full range of freedom and absolute power they have in their subs, then there should be transparency, accountability and consequence for their actions. If they don't want the oversight, then there are things that they should be barred from doing (banning, shadowbanning, censoring keywords, etc.)

Why cant we just stick with the downvote system instead of banning? Used to be if you posted racist or whatever stuff everywhere you get buried in downvotes and away you went. Now people are getting banned everywhere and the whole site is starting to turn into one giant r/pyongyang.

being an asshole racist shouldn't get you banned from hundreds of subs all at once.

Actually, yes it would in my book. If that's the kind of person you proudly present in public, then good riddance. There's consequences to actions.

Haha never heard that clock one before I like it

have you got examples?

Just from glancing a few days back in his post history:

Why do Ivy League schools routinely have ~30% Ashkenazi Jews then?

Because they're super-intelligent and because they network and are tribal in helping each other out. Think about how many legacy Jewish students there are in the Ivy League, then about the money that they have to pay for them to go to schools in the Ivy League, and then about the Ivy League even thinking about diluting their Jewish population like they're trying to dilute their Asian population. Can you even imagine the ADL mainstream media shitstorm if the Ivy League discriminated against Jews in their applications? Our media is run by plenty of Jews so they would destroy any Ivy League dean who so much as thought about lessening the number of Jews that they accept.

Also this gem:

That's contradictory since diversity is racism against Whites.

Yep, I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking he is a racist. In this context, some of the curt mod replies seem warranted.

I don't see how that is racist. The first part is more like he is trying to show that an institute is racist. And the second thing could be racist, but if you look at the context the whole discussion is about lowering the score needed for African Americans and raising the score needed for Asians and White.

Can you explain how you think that's racist? This is all besides the point anyways since Mods shouldn't have this much control let alone have disrespectful communication or none at all.

The first paragraph buys into antisemitic stereotypes and makes some pretty broad claims without having any justification, as if it is just "understood" that this is the way Jewish people are.

As for the statement about diversity, I could see how a non-racist person might still have problems with affirmative action. But he is condemning diversity entirely. In another comment he talks about his desire for racial homogeneity.

Ultimately, I don't really see it as my role to decide who is racist and who isn't on the internet. All I said is that I don't blame anyone for thinking that he is. Perhaps you are right about mods having too much control, I don't really know much about how that works. In this case I'm having a hard time mustering sympathy.

Hmmm well I like to think it can be objectively proven and if it can't then it's not. But yea, I suppose that it can easily be perceived to be racist... I just think he's sharing his opinion without trying to be offensive.
I don't really feel sympathetic either; if a place has low tolerance then it's no surprise talking like that can get you banned. However the majority of redditors seem to think that this place has free speech but this clearly shows that it doesn't. Maybe I'm wrong though and most know that there is no tolerance here. Either they don't care or don't know that there are alternatives (when there are)

diversity is racism against Whites

I don't see how that is racist.

Are you stupid? Those are word-for-word active racist talking points. There's no context that can excuse it. There's lots of ways of criticizing Affirmative Action, but calling racial diversity "racism against Whites" is one of the most blatantly racist things you could say. Promoting diversity in colleges is about trying to counteract racial inequality and racial divisions, not about unfairly over-representing non-Whites.

Mods shouldn't have this much control

Agreed in general, though I'm okay with banning overt racists from explicitly anti-racist subs.

Counteracting racial inequality by lowering the score needed literally ends up unfairly over-representing non-whites...

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Thank you! The top comments/votes fell for his sensationalist title.

Can you give some examples?

Who cares?

Shouldn't he still be allowed to post?

Not if the subreddits disallow racism. /r/Europe, /r/HistoryPorn, and /r/History explicitly disallow racism/bigotry. And I'm pretty sure it's disallowed on /r/food even if it's not explicitly stated. A ton of subreddits have rules which do not allow for racism, and even on the ones who don't, it's often a safe bet to assume they're not going to take kindly to it.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from the consequences of your speech.

Yeah, this is the scenario that's supposed to convince me reddit moderation is bad? I'm glad this guy got banned, fuck him. I wish they would have stepped up banning assholes like this guy years ago. Different definitions of what the "cancer" is that's killing reddit.

Nice deflection attempt.

Yeah, if I ran a subreddit I wouldn't want OP on it either

diversity is racism against Whites.

is something this fucker actually said.

It's quite true though

well let's be honest, you come off as a racist in your comment history. i mean if you are then you should at least own it. i don't think you should be banned from so many subs for it bc others aren't.

I was about to say the same.

Just look through his comments. This isn't controversial at all. It's a racist being banned from subreddits that don't allow racists. Pretty simple, really.

He is racist. On that we agree. I think we also agree that we disagree with his views.

Okay.

But why should he be banned from subreddits like /r/food and /r/history? that's just mod abuse. He is racist but he is not uttering hate speech. he is not saying we should kill some group of people or deprive them of rights. he just dislikes non-white people, and though I disagree with him I fail to see why we shouldn't allow someone with differing views to present their argument. If it's bad, we ignore it.

The problem with silencing everyone who disagrees with you is that someone makes the call on 'what is right and what is wrong.' Of course hate speech that calls for the deaths or limitation of rights of other people is bad, but that's not happening here. What if this was the other way around? What if the mods were right wingers and they banned everyone who was pro-abortion or something because they said they don't allow baby killers in their subreddits? would that be okay? Because I don't think so.

I know reddit isn't public domain, it's private. We can't tell the reddit mods to allow free speech. But we can leave reddit if they refuse to do so, and we should on good conscience.

It probably was the wrong way to handle it, and it very much was heavy handed, I agree.

That isn't the problem at all. The problem here, is that.

A single mod shouldn't have control over 100s of subs

I agree with that.

He is, however, misrepresenting his case.

Yeah, definitely comes off as racist in comment history. That doesn't mean he should be censored though, especially in something like /r/food.

If the subreddit specifically disallows racism, then I don't see a problem with it.

However, the way this was handled looks very heavy handed, indeed.

That doesn't mean he should be censored though

If you and I can identify what he writes as white supremacist propaganda, why shouldn't he be censored?

Because censorship is stupid.

Why's that?

People are capable of judging the truth and value of what others say. This forum was originally designed with a system in place to bury unpopluar ideas and drive popular ideas to the top, why would we need mods to decide what is ok for us to see and vote on. This is whats so upsetting about this Ellen Pao safe space bullshit. Let the people vote.

Furthermore, the worst thing I've read from him is that he thinks it's ok for a population to want to remain mostly homogenius. While I disagree with the potential followup assertion that countries should be able to discriminate based on race, he's hardly saying we should kill the jews or some hateful nonsense like that.

It is about not letting people like that be comfortable. If I knew someone was a rapist, but you know, they never raped me or one of my friends, then I guess it is cool if they hang around? Hell NO!! Fuck em. Call me intolerant, but yes, I have no tolerance for racists, sexists, rapists, murders, homophobes, and many other people who are wrong.

It really isn't a matter of justice or rights if the proprieters of a private site decide to ban a racist comment-writing user.

he wouldn't have been banned from so many if he hadn't been pushing the issue and involving so many other mods as well.

Except what defines one as a racist is not so simple. I'm not arguing with you whether he is or is not as I have not looked at his history and I dont really care to, I just think that the up / down vote system was working fine back in the day whereas now it's turned into banning.

There's a special thing on Reddit called the downvote. Would you like a free and open forum where racists can simply be downvoted to oblivion, or a 'safe space' where some dropkick, power happy mod decides who he likes and what views hes going to allow.

Every subreddit has its own rules. Of course I agree with mods being able to enforce them.

That this particular person was very heavy handed, and probably didn't handle it like he should have, I agree to be the case. I also think it's unhealthy that a single person is a mod in more then, say, five subreddits. However, I do understand that it makes the jobs of moderators much easier. Some people simply needs to be blacklisted, and it's a lot of extra work if there is no sort of overarching communication (at the very least) between moderators.

Downvoting is nice, but it doesn't solve everything.

It's a mod on a power trip enforcing the rules of a subreddit outside that subreddit.

That IS controversial and IS harmful to Reddit.

From his point of view, there is no way that owning up to it will help his argument in any way.

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That's almost as bad, even racists deserve to have their views heard.

I look at it this way...

Lets say for example, that I'm a horrific racist, I don't like people with a different colour skin than mine. Should I be shunned and ignored so that my hatred can fester? Or should I be exposed to opposing viewpoints and counter-argumnets, so that I may be educated/enlightened, and that others can see how wrong I am?

Or..

Lets say I hold some views that could be perceieved as racist, I've been brought up with similar looking/sounding people, never met a 'brown' person before, I'm not a 'bad' person, just ignorant as shit. How do I learn from people I can't interact with?

I don't like censorship in any form. It reeks of a one-sided, piss-poor argument.

If they want to buy the domain whitepower.com, and build their website there, and the government tries to take it down, then yes, that is censorship. If reddit and the people they trust to mod don't want to hear it, they don't have to. Would you let me come into your home and talk shit about your mom, or child or S.O.? You have no right to stop me in my own home, but in your's, you have every right, just like reddit and its mods.

even racists deserve to have their views heard.

No, they don't. Nobody has the right to have their views heard. The right to speak them? Absolutely, but you can't force an audience to be receptive, and nobody should have to put up with a bunch of racists shitting up their subreddit.

If/when they post racist shit that you dont agree with, then fine ban/remove them. Not giving them the chance to learn/participate/enlighten themselves in the first place?

Nope, pre-emptive banning is horseshit.

"Oh, this aspect of your personality is a little 'fucked' by our standards, and instead of trying to help you out, change you a little, educate you on the proper way to behave, we're just going to dismiss you and anything you might ever say"

I hate to break your bubble, but 'some' people are actually racists, those same people live & work in the same world you do, they have the ability/right to interact and learn, just like you do.

Dismissing everything they might ever say, every contribution they may ever make, because of a 'character flaw' is bullshit.

They've lived 'x' number of years, they have 'x' to contribute.

Hmm. Is it still right to ban a racist if they didn't interact with the sub? Proactive modding is great and all but ehhhhhh...

IMO it's still scary that they have that sort of power to censor, but this just looks like OP had it coming and refuses to acknowledge why.

Agentlame no. But DR, Yea he would

People have always been moving one place to another, intermingling with people of other ethnicities

That doesn't mean any of us need to accept that.

Defending the Japanese people's right to self determination is what counts as racist now? The mods where accusing him of being a "stormfronter" for fucks sakes, ridicules.

i never said anything about the japanese -_- the mods are just saying he racebaits and then he was banned for it. i said it was wrong to ban him. i don't understand where i'm being misconstrued.

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how the fuck are you disagreeing with me? you are saying everything i said with more words. yes he has a view point but i don't think he should be banned for it.

you come off as a racist in your comment history

Sooo... Which comments are that? I checked his comments for a bit, but nothing obviously racist, IMO. ^{Maybe I'm just racist and just not know it yet}

edit:
Found one!

~10 minutes later: That's the only one!

It isn't.

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/35vido/til_in_1850_42_of_free_negroes_in_charleston_sc/cr8b6dq

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/2e4850/til_that_sweden_pays_high_school_students_187_per/cjw3nj7

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/2noixx/til_in_a_south_philly_high_school_asian_students/cmflnkp

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/35rwpa/tony_robinson_got_high_assaulted_multiple_folks/cr79cgm

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/35vay4/black_miss_japan_fights_for_race_revolution_i/cr8efe0

And so on. That's just from the first page of their "Controversial" overview.

You're either very bad at reddit or you're literally defending racism.

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I forgot about the "controversial" overview :c
I was reading the "new" tab.

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Fixed! Pardon my lack of reddiquette!

the world would be a better place if you got hit by a truck

what the ever loving fuck did i say that now deems me fit for death? fucking psycho

This is a side effect of Reddit's system. When you have a large subreddit, there's a natural tendency to find mods of other large subreddits for their experience. Same goes in smaller degrees for subreddits that share topics of interest.

This is caused by an independent group of people, and I don't really see what Ellen Pao has to do with it. In fact, the spam of 400+ ban messages could easily be considered to break the new harassment rule of individuals that was announced in the Reddit blog:

Systematic and/or continued actions to torment or demean someone in a way that would make a reasonable person (1) conclude that reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversation, or (2) fear for their safety or the safety of those around them.

Getting banned from unrelated subreddits, especially in those numbers would seem to pretty clearly violate that statute as well as being spammy. I'd recommend contacting the admins about the matter.

Of course, there's not really anything to 'fix', per se. On Reddit any given subreddit is owned completely and irrevocably by the head mod, who is usually the person who created the sub. In other words, the one who was first to think of the name.

He's not saying it's a result of Pao's reddit, rather it feels fitting to be suppressed and censored under Pao's reddit.

I think the point is just that it seems hamfisted to say "Pao's Reddit!" when the new policies likely would combat this abuse, if it would influence it at all.

This is what happens when you speak out against the militant matriarchy.

You repeatedly claim your "not racist" but I must point out that your posting history disagrees with you. You are racist. That also makes you a bad person. Judging people based on their race is completely bullshit and unacceptable in modern society. Go back to the 1900s. You belong there.

That doesn't warrant banning you from all those subreddits though. I understand that. Just stop pretending your completely innocent in all this, when all anyone has to do is take a quick look at your profile. Unless you delete those posts, that is.

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I said that.

People today are not wiser than people in the 1900 century, you fucking idiot.

You are racist. That also makes you a bad person.

What a good goy.

I don't see the conspiracy. I see the /r/subredditdrama, but not the /r/conspiracy.

Racebaiting shitposting racist that gets upvoted by his coontown friends gets banned from subreddits that don't want racists? Of course that's a conspiracy!

Oh no someone doesn't want racists on a board they can do whatever they want on. Better post to /r/conspiracy

Honestly, while I find your views repugnant, I support your right to speak them publicly. Suppression of speech is a slippery slope as those in power change. One mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter and so forth. And really, your views are so offensive to even those moderately right, or center, that you will eventually hurt your cause more then help it. Please, spew racist crap.

If only he had the freedom of choice to make his own subreddit or go somewhere he isn't "surpressed". Oh wait. This isn't a public utility, whose access and use you have a right to.

He should be able to say them wherever he wants. Downvotes decide the rule

So mods don't have the freedom to moderator their channels?

So mods don't have the freedom to moderate their subreddits?

ftfy.

I'd prefer a public utility to a private club.

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Some subreddits have rules against posting racist viewpoints, so there is that.

You might have some right to complain about these mods, but what really makes your post laughable is the fact that you claiming not to be a racist is an essential part of your point.
I don't know you, I maybe looked a total of 5 minutes at your comment history and it's megamultifucking obvious that you have some issues with this.
1/3 of all your postings mention someones race. Few days ago, you write:
"Typically, it's White nations in the Western world that have diversity pushed on them but if you look around you'll notice that the diversity mob and the Left never demand diversity in non-White places. "

Are you actually believing that your view on things here can somehow be considered something other than racist? Face it like a man, of course you're racist, and tbh I seriously doubt you don't realize that.

How is any of that "racist"? It may be a broad generalization regarding one view of diversification. Believe it or not, some conservative views recognize the effect forced diversity hurts the Nationals of a certain group or tribe if you will. Saying that immigrants are inherently worse because they are a different race would be "racist" but there is no denying having a country/power state that your national culture is inherently wrong hurts the national pride, image, and what made that country great. That is not to say that diversity is a bad thing, but it being forced not by the will of the people but by the powers that be, isn't a good thing.

This is opinion, not inherently racist.

"Typically, it's White nations in the Western world that have diversity pushed on them but if you look around you'll notice that the diversity mob and the Left never demand diversity in non-White places. "

This is like saying "Keep white land white." "Separate but equal." "Anti racist is code for Anti white."

You can see a lot of that last one being used in this very thread.

How is it like any of those? The fact that white people have diversity pushed on them, and not other races is racist because it is discrimination based on skin color.

Yes, this is an opinion that is inherently racist. Opinions can most certainly be racist, there's no distinction between the two. And trust me, I read through his comment history too and it is not pretty. It is beyond obvious that he is spewing racist shit. He only uses selective facts to veil the utter ridiculousness of what he is saying.

Specifically, he spins facts against diversity. He clearly has an oppression complex. The ultimate irony of this is that he is no different from the SJW, black lives matters, and other movements against actual oppression that he hates himself! It's the ultimate irony.

IT CAN'T BE WRONG IT'S MY OPINION.

Join us at /r/coontown for the facts

You're not wrong. This guy is one of the biggest race-baiting propagandists on the site. He frequently deletes his own submissions and comments after they've served their purpose, too, so you won't even see the half of it in his history. Loves to spam those massive lists of links in any thread dealing with race.

Them being a racist doens't have anything to do with anything.

What you have in quotes is not racist, its simply an observation. Do you have any evidence to refute the claim that was made? Racism is strictly hate for others races, and that sentence contains no racism, only observations of how racial demographics are changing around the world.

The statement is OP criticizing his own culture and politics. Remind me how that's racist again?

Found the sjw. Guess what buddy what you consider offensive or racist he might not. And either way this is an obvious attempt to silence an opinion they don't like, racism is just the excuse for it.

Lol, do just calling a racist racist makes someone an SJW?

On r/conspiracy? You really asking?

What is an sjw? I'm still confused about that.

It's anyone willing to call out bigotry when they see it. Especially recently, here one reddit, ever since stormfront (Internet's largest white supremacist forum) started brigading and reddit got more popular. Educated folks became less of a majority here and bigots have made some headway.

SJW is the new term, stands for social justice warrior, and is used as a derogatory slur for anyone who criticizes the racist comments of people like good old OP here

While I do feel op is racist based off of his history, I don't believe it should be censored. I definitely encourage others to call out that attitude. I feel like educated people showing others how ignorant that view point is would only help the cause and invoke semi educated conversation. You simply can't use anecdotal evidence to "prove" a race to be inferior. Thank you for clearing that up for me.

A SJW literally is the new Henry Ford.

"You can say anything you want to, so long as we agree with it"

calling a non-racist racist for pretty mellow comments about race makes you and SWJ.

Calling someone who discriminates people by their race a non-racist and then dismissing their ascription of certain qualities as innate to various races comes off as pretty racist to me.

Especially considering we are all one human race.

Except of course the greys, Nordics, Lizzies, etc..

ISHYGDDT you must be fun at parties.

How the fuck is that racist? White nations are the ones with diversity pushed upon them.

Anti Racist is code for Anti White.

FTFY

Join us at /r/coontown

Because colored nations still have loose holes from the ongoing assfucking called neocolonialism.

How is recognizing the systematic oppression of Whites a matter of racism?

There is no systematic oppression of white people... seriously.

LOL

Because there isn't systematic oppression of white people. We live in a white mans world. Source: Am White and encounter zero oppression.

Seriously, I could put on a reflective jacket, a hard hat and a clip board and walk into literally any place I wanted to. So long as I look like I know what I'm doing, I won't even be questioned.

This is very much the white mans world. Idiots screaming about white oppression are just frustrated that other races are getting equal rights. The vast majority of us don't worry about races. We worry about Humans.

I recommend you go try it in South Africa. You might want to order a coffin first though.

The very fact that you are referring to some people as 'Whites' is racism

To someone that doesn't understand the meaning of the word, sure.

As much as I dislike /u/davidreiss666 I'm kinda glad you got banned. I've seen you shitpost stormfront copypasta a dozen times and even though most of the time you get completely destroyed in the discussion by facts (that is - after coontown votebrigades your post to the top) you keep reposting them.

That kinda shitposting destroyed /r/europe some time ago. It got slightly better, probably by banning racist shitposters? I don't know. But I'm cool with it. Nothing of value lost.

that White power website

You mentioned this twice, but I fail to see where it comes from. /u/Benthetraveler accuses you of copy/pasting the same post over and over - not of plagiarizing it.

Regardless of how I feel about your opinions, I absolutely think you are right to post them and have them challenged. I don't even mind reposts if you can do a better job contributing to a conversation by using previously written material, rather than writing the same thing over and over.

Your a racist. You want the white culture to flourish right well I want all other diversities to flourish and if that means less whites then so b it. Get ready for the future bud u gonna have a rude awakening.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/13/18934111-census-white-majority-in-us-gone-by-2043

First, you do realize that you are the one slandering him and he kept his views on your racism private and just banned you and only mentioned it in mod mail when you asked why he banned you, right? Do you feel a tad hypocritical. This guys an ass, but he just banned you, you've obsessively stalked him.

Second, I can't read the post since you didn't link to it, but the title does sound racist. Why mention that someone of African descent attacked the girl? Why not just say a girl was attacked for wearing a crucifix? Does it actually matter that it was by someone of "African descent?" Also, do you realize that "African descent" is almost always not the right way to refer to a black person unless you're referring to someone who literally migrated from Africa in their lifetime and are acting in a way informed by that? Giving you the benefit of the doubt I'd imagine it's just a misstep, but realize that specifically calling out race is race-bating a bit when it has nothing to do with it. Why not call out the other kids religion? This is like saying the girl was attacked by someone of Irish descent...unless it's a protestant/Catholic English/Irish related attack it serves no fucking purpose. You should ask yourself why you'd mention someone of African descent and not if they were of Irish descent.

Tl;dr: The mods an asshole and so are you.

I'm ready for the downvotes (this sub usually isn't open to critique of its' main narrative),

Really doesn't sound like you are. Sounds like you're attempting to appeal to people who might otherwise downvote you. It was a well thought out post, and proper take on the issue.

I'm just appealing that they don't downvote based on the Tl;dr or the first sentence, just hope those who disagree read it. I'm editing out of there though since it probably is tacky regardless.

Cool. I'll start the cascade of deletes from here if you don't want these comments following your initial post.

If you want to delete it that's fine, otherwise don't worry about it. It's fine if I have some egg on my face for mentioning votes in the post, I did do that.

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The title of the article:

Girl, 12, beaten by classmate, for wearing crucifix - update

The title of the post:

Girl, 12, beaten by classmate, for wearing crucifix: A schoolboy of African origin attacked a 12-year-old-girl at a school in central Italy because she was wearing a crucifix on a neck chain, police said Friday.

The original title of the article makes no mention to race, albeit it does mention it in the article, why include it in the title? I'm not sure why the article included it either to be honest. Race literally has nothing to do with this from what the article says, it sounds like normal schoolyard bullying. Guess what, Irish kids do the same thing (I had a protestant English friend attacked by an Irish Catholic due to his faith, that would have more relevance because of the cultural history specific to that, however where you come from does not relate to religion directly). Mentioning specifically, especially in the title, the race when it's completely irrelevant would appear like race-bating even if the OP didn't mean it that way.

Again, not opposed to black people being associated with African-American (though black people generally don't like that term anymore as many have lived their whole lives in America and are just as American as the English or German descendants) my problem was bringing race in at all, I mentioned Africa because it's also considered politically incorrect now (just trying to help OP out in phrasing things in the future).

Yes, various cultures (race doesn't matter anywhere near as much as culture) can act differently but in this instance black people aren't known as being persecutors of the Christian faith...in general a lot of black people are Christians. There's no pattern to recognize aside from schoolyard kids can be assholes and in this case this kid was one of many who's picked on religion. I would love to see some evidence that black people are significantly more likely to be bigoted against Christianity than anyone else. I would imagine personal beliefs and the desire to make fun of something regardless of what would factor in more (let's be honest, if this kid is bullying for a crucifix he'd have found something else random if that wasn't there...there were other students at that school who wore crucifixes).

Political correctness is not what's at play here, this is an instance of biasing driving linguistics. He mentioned the race because he felt that was pertinent when there's no evidence that it is, not only does that imply undue bias on his part it also subtly promotes that bias to others. I would strongly recommend reading more on linguistics and how word choice and extraneous text can impact overall interpretation and use.

Oh, and as for searching...I'm not going to spend time searching for his post, he should have put it in there and Reddit's search system is quite the mess. I used the information he gave us to make judgement on to make judgement, in part because what was in the article almost assuredly didn't matter...I mean, if the kid was in some sort of Black Panthers movement...maybe, but Italy isn't exactly known for racism by its minorities...rather by it's neo-nazi's. Something tells me more kids have been beaten up for being black there than for wearing a crucifix and more white people have beaten people up for wearing a crucifix than black (though I have no sources so I could be wrong).

Tl;dr: I'm not sure how this actually applies to the meat of what I was saying.

Nice race realism. Next thing you're going to say is that black people's brains are smaller than white people's.

While I wouldn't be surprised I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt and think he's actually referring to pattern recognition among different cultures and just doesn't realize culture extends beyond, and is way more important, than skin color.

I think the bigger issue is that he thinks there's a pattern of black people persecuting Christians. To my knowledge a majority of black people in Italy are Christians so this would be a bit counterintuitive. Regardless I think it's obvious from the article this kid was just looking to pick a fight, let's be honest...there were a hell of a lot more kids wearing crucifixes than this kid picked upon, he would have picked on this girl for some reason or another.

People need to check this guys history before maddly upvoting this, whilst it is a definite overreaction on the mods part, looking through this guys post history I can definitely understand why people would consider him racist.

I just did and this guy is a piece of shit. The mods acted immaturely and this guy is racist. No conspiracy here, just two shitty people bitching at each other.

He's a racist. So what? It's sad to see the supposedly "free thinking" people of /r/conspiracy mindlessly accept the politically correct thinking on race.

You mean mindlessly accept non-racism.

Bro, I think we almost unanimously accept that Mods were out of line and power tripping, over all being dbags, But OP isn't a saint either.

As soon as I became a mod of /r/watchpeopledie this douchebag /u/atticus138 banned me from the subs that he moderates. He does the to all of the new mods. I guess this loser sits and watches for new mods to pop up. It caught me off guard so I messaged him and he refused to have any sort of rational conversation because I must be some sort of psychopath for modding that subreddit apparently. I guess all the doctors, EMTs, and med students who frequent our sub must be psychopatha too.

Anyway, I didn't really give a shit because he mods some lame ass subs but this is pretty clear mod abuse. I'm not gonna make a fuss anout it but I am very glad that you are standing up to this sort of nonsense on Reddit. These people are loud mouth, power hungry, opinionated, weak minded individuals who should be called out by the silent majority of sane people who want Reddit to be a bastion of free speech.

Read through some of your comment history. I genuinely don't think you deserved to be banned so aggressively, let alone at all. However, I can see how it could've come off as racist on some cases. Sorry dude.

From OPs post history he was posting things about separating the races, which in America is considered racist. Still messed up you got uberbanned, but from your history you probably said some pretty racist shit.

I was banned from a few of my favorite subs with no warning or messages from mods. It's the way she goes. Reddit died long ago. As did hope

you guys are so dramatic

ITS DONE FOR, MAN. OVER.

DIGG DIGG DIGG

That's why I make a new account every few months.

This is infuriating.

(Checks ops comment history)

Oh wait this guy is a piece of shit.

Was thinking the same thing.

/r/mildlyinfuriating (Checks comment history) /r/oddlysatisfying

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You forgot stormfront.org. That's another website I think OP would enjoy.

Yes, you do have crippling autism. Thanks for sharing.

Have you tried Stormfront.org? you should check it out, it has the same echo chambers Tumblr has. You would fit in.

Or, you know, it was for your racist agenda.

It took me 2 minutes of looking through your comment/submission history to find multiple reddiquette infractions - - with 'Don't editorialize or sensationalize your submission title' seeming to be the biggest culprit - - you tend to make submission titles racially tinged when the submitted articles have no racial subtext. That's against the rules, and you did it multiple times. It makes sense that you got banned - - you break the rules, you get punished. Why are you bitching when you know exactly what you did wrong? Plus you sound like a right proper fuck of a person. Go be a twat somewhere else pls.

This should be higher up up up vote

Not saying you should have been banned, but your comment history does seem kinda racist

Schoolboy of African origin?

Ok, if you have any understanding of large swaths of your intended audience, you should realize you're just asking for stupid reactions by using clumsy phraseology like "a schoolboy of African origin".

Was the anti-crucifix student actually visiting from the continent of Africa? An exchange student, I suppose?

Look, I am the last person to defend people with stupid politically correct sensitivities, but maybe at least try to present things accurately without dragging in flame bait.

Or maybe he is like most of us here, not a native English speaker coming from a country where that sentence is perfectly fine and normal? Because in my country, the direct translation for that is normal.

Or is this " 'Murican's only! screw the rest of the world" ?

Not really, no. This isn't about "improper English".

Update:

I went to the original source:

Girl, 12, beaten by classmate, for wearing crucifix

The exact words "A schoolboy of African origin attacked a 12-year-old-girl " do appear in the first sentence of the extremely brief article. No other details are given about the "schoolboy of African origin" other than that he is a minor who first attended school three weeks prior.

In the US, that is cringe-worthy because it's very clumsy in meaning and questionable interpretation.

I concede that since this english article is published in Italy, conventions are different there, but that would not be entirely clear to most western english readers who read the reddit headline.

So, I still stand by my point that a better choice of words can go a long way when your message is international.

Never stated it being bad English was a problem (because it aint), but that I cant see whats the sensitivity problem in using the sentence he did, because I meet such sentences in my normal life here. Sure there was probably better ways to describe it, but I wouldnt think twice when reading that headline, as it does not stand out as racist at all from where I come from, and I guess most of Europe wont have troubles either with such a headline, which is where OP seems to be from (well, and me too).

So what im indicating here is, that OP didnt know that these mods comes from a lot more sensitive area in the world compared to him, and never stood a chance of knowing that the sentence is wrong in their eyes, as they: 1: dont speak the same native language (Im guessing OP is Italian judging on the post) meaning something can go wrong in translation, and 2; comes from two very different parts of the world in terms of whats okay to say, and whats not.

At least make sure the mods tells him whats wrong before just banning him without a warning at first, especially as that sentence actually is in the damn article...

EDIT: About your update, his message was only intended for Europeans. That sentence would be perfectly fine in 99% of Europe, so cant see the problem here still... But the fact that there's a mod on /r/Europe thats from USA makes no god damn sense...

his message was only intended for Europeans. That sentence would be perfectly fine in 99% of Europe, so cant see the problem here still... But the fact that there's a mod on /r/Europe[1] thats from USA makes no god damn sense...

I agree, it doesn't make sense or explain the rest of the mess that ensued.

When you piss off Canada you need to take a step back and re-evaluate your life.

Sorry

a ok

Unfortunate some people are just bullies and mean to others. Seems like this guy needs to be let go from Reddit.

If that's how you feel check out OPs post history and tell me if the ban seems reasonable now.

I responded to what was posted on the banning of multiple people and unfairness. There were lots of things gathered. Was interesting.

Did he break any of the rules in those subreddits? No...then this is political censorship aka bullshit.

Mass banning like that sound like harassment that fits reddit's own definition

Systemic and continued actions to torment someone in a way that would make a reasonable person conclude that reddit is not a platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversaion.

There was a start of a discussion in undelete about political moderation but it did not progress far.

I'd love to see you report it to the admin and see what they say in light of their policy. You seem to have the ability to express the problem in a way that they may listen to you. This isn't a simple ban . They are tormenting you for expressing your ideas.

The thing is, you are racist.

oh my god who the hell cares

How is the same person a mod of /r/europe and /r/Canada? I though mods generally had to have some connection to the subreddits they moderate. And unless he moved continents halfway through his reddit career I don't see him having a connection to both.

/r/conspiracy, where the jokes write themselves.

Has anyone looked through OP's comment history? He talks a lot about race and has certainly posted some comments that some may interpret as racist:

TIL that nations, races, and ethnicities have no right to want to keep their societies homogeneous and that they're racist when they don't cave to the demands of the diversity mob. There's nothing racist about wanting to live in a homogeneous society. Typically, it's White nations in the Western world that have diversity pushed on them but if you look around you'll notice that the diversity mob and the Left never demand diversity in non-White places.

Another post:

Because CNN does a shitty job at acting like they're not biased and pushing the liberal narrative. I think they would be better suited covering actual racial hate crimes like a pack of Black teenagers attempting to murder an innocent White Baltimore man amid the Baltimore riots. Won't hear about that on national news outlets because it ruins the "Black people literally did nothing wrong unlike White people" narrative that gets pushed relentlessly by our mainstream media. These "teens" have been charged with attempted murder yet a racial hate crime like this gets no media attention. Instead, CNN and our media need to create White-on-Black racial crimes out of nothing because our media is trash.

And another:

I don't think the police have said that they "hunt" black men. If they look at them with suspicion it is because Black males comprise about 6 percent of America's population but commit about a third of the nation's crime. The incarceration rate for Black males is about seven times higher than that of White males. Would it be wrong for airport screeners and the TSA to look at Muslim or Middle-Eastern passengers with increased suspicion given the climate of terrorism in today's world?

Most of this stuff is borderline, but I would imagine that OP has deleted the stuff he doesn't want people to see. Let's take this with a grain of salt.

OP is entitled to his views and that's fine. I don't necessarily have to agree with him but frivolous banning makes his claims seem legit. Op is a good writer though.

It could be me, but that doesn't look racist. It looks like a collection of pretty valid points actually.

I'd guess you don't have a life if you subscribe to 400 subreddits.

Reddit rotates subscriptions that appear on your front page. 50 possible for regular accounts and 100 for gold. Subscribing to lots of subreddits keeps my front page diverse.

Also, he was banned from 400, he is probably not subscribed to 400.

leftist

/r/liberal

Lolwut

I have a hard time believing he is a true leftist. He is probably of the SJW ilk that hold right wing views yet pretend to be leftist. Everything is about identity politics instead of class issues.

All sjw are authoritarians. Ideologically i find them much closer to the khmer rouge then to liberalism

He sounds like a liberal.

Fuck this place. I'm out.

Check OPs comment history first.

How was some one as likeable as unidan banned for a little vote manipulation yet high powered mods just get to do what ever tey like and act like a 12yr old when caught.

"Bye now!" What a douche.

You know they just pigeon holed you into r/conspiracy right? By you posting this they also have made you look even crazier. Unfortunately r/conspiracy is the only thread on this site with actual news, but it is also full of the most disinformation. Learn to discern the bullshit from the truth and it shall set you free people.

I'll never understand why people invest so much into this website. Who cares, it's reddit. It's going the way of digg any way.

Just make a new account. Who fucking cares about the mods. It's so stupid easy to make another account and spam the shit out of them if you so desired.

This is the only power those dork mods have in their lives. Why do you think they act that way? Just make a new account and move on. They are instantly trivialized.

That's the funniest part of this. Just make a new account and you bypass all their power tripping. Seriously, they think they are bad asses and banned you... Oh no not your precious karma. It takes two seconds to make a new account and go back to posting wherever the fuck you want. Posting in /r/conspiracy, you should have more than one account for various things. You shouldn't rely on one single reddit account.

Mods think they have power on this website. It's a false sense of entitlement.

Also, your post history is questionable (wonder how much you deleted?) Not only are the mods on this site untrustworthy, so are the users and their stories.

Don't believe anything you read on this site, 99% of it is bullshit.

/u/davidreiss666 you're a pussy ass bitch who hides behind keyboards and uses valid causes as an excuse for your own pathetic dickery. you fucking suck dude, come on. You're not being a good guy. Ur a cunt m8

Yesterday there was post about a user who was banned completely from Reddit for posting a satirical image of Coca cola on Qatar issue.

Also, few days back there was a post about a user whose all posts were deleted and completely banned for leaking some sensational and revealing information about Reddit.

What have we come to?

I don't agree with your shadowban, but I'm not real sure how your post exactly relates to Europe as a whole region, much less the world. /r/Europe and /r/worldnews aren't /r/localcrimewatch

Hey Exile. Long time fan here. And as someone who has been in your position let me explain why this happened to you.

You are a victim of your own success. A quick look at your profile shows that you are an excellent writer. You use sources. You summarize them in a rational way. You make persuasive arguments etc... Most people would think that is exactly what a site that is suppose to be "a discussion board" needs." And they would be right. The fact that you have six years of reddit gold gifted to you clearly indicates that the users of reddit appreciate your contributions.

However, you argue and persuade for the wrong opinions. I don't mean as in objectively wrong. But simply out of sync with what powermods like davidreiss666 are willing to tolerate.

You are a immigration skeptic. You criticize feminism. You bring attention to violent black on white crime. You coined "the fappening." You are an apologist for free speech and anti-censorship. You are basically the Captain of Team Shitlord. And that is all it takes.

It doesn't matter if you follow the rules of the subreddits that you post in. It doesn't matter that you argue and debate in an open and forthright manner. Your positions are unpalatable to people like davidreiss666 and agentlame. You are simply to good at criticizing their beliefs to be allowed to continue to post.

Years ago reddit was an open discussion platform and debates raged. Rebuttals and arguments flowed and the karma didn't matter. Then slowly but surely the usual suspects realized that open debate doesn't serve their purpose because they usually lose. Censorship is much more effective. Now the majority of popular subreddits are simply sanitized of controversial topics and comments by mods who believe that they know what is best. And what should and shouldn't be discussed. It sucks. And it is literally the cancer that is killing reddit. You are just the latest casualty.

This is hilarious

Just think for a second about the type of person who would want to be a mod. Take a second. Yep, these are naturally the kind of douchebags you get.

Well, that just convinced me to unsubscribe from this subreddit.

Same

The David666 guy is a leftwing cunt that acts like a 15 year old that just discovered Che Guevara t-shirts. I can picture him reading Huffpost and Rachel Maddows blog while nodding in agreement.

I've been shadow banned from many subreddits because I am verified on fatpeoplehate. Oh well.

Wow, the way that mod Creesch spoke to you is awful, like a little kid who knows that they don't have the chops for a debate silencing you for asking a reasonable question.

It's bullshit.

Why is someone a mod in canada and Europe, those are 2 different places

(Most) Mods gets their rocks off banning people and then acting important, let them have their fun cause they cant get it anywhere else.

If they didn't have reddit, they'd probably be out kicking puppies and steal little kids' lunch money. It really is for the best.

I've also been banned from several subreddits just for commenting on a post in /r/fatpeoplehate, some of which I didn't even know existed. I'm not even subscribed to fph, it was just a comment.

/u/Combative_Douche banned me from /r/Negareddit for a post that was two weeks old because he disagreed with my personal views. Yes the post was supposed to be unpopular in general or I wouldn't have posted it in NegaReddit.

Edit: In Banning me for his personal disagreement with my views it completely makes NegaReddit Redundant.

You used immature personal attacks towards another user. You also tried to argue that 11 year olds can consent to sex with adults. You're just not the type of person we want on our sub. Whether you agree with our reasoning or not is kind of irrelevant anyway, as you can see our sidebar clearly states:

WARNING: We might ban you just because we feel like it.

Personally, I find it a bit amusing that you're still hung up on getting banned from a silly subreddit.

Everything you listed happened after I was banned with the exclusion of a personal attack, which was a retaliation and I can show that.

I actually defended myself from a personal attack by another user, he said fuck me for something I didn't do and I respond with "Your stupid too I guess cause that's not what I said in anyway". What I pointed out was that 11 year olds have sex with 11 year olds, not adults. I also pointed out that the cops thought that the kid consented with adults. Go back and look at the sub that got me banned, You guys have never even deleted it and I took screenshots just now in case you try to pull a fast one. I also have screenshots of the very immature way you and the rest of the mods responded to me when I asked why I was banned.

Regardless of wether you want me on your sub or not I may already be back there, you guys aren't exactly the fore leading group on internet security.

I brought it up here because It was relevant, and I still stand by my statement, your logic is flawed for the subreddit in question and cheapens the Negareddit, since it's purpose to be a place for unpopular opinion. Showing me your trump card rule of we can ban you because we disagree doesn't really make that change, your moderations of Negareddit is flawed.

I'm not even caught up on it like I said it was relevant here.

This is the sad part about reddit, and what it has become. All it has turned into is a giant circle jerk. So many post have distorted the truth or statistics involved to fit their agenda.

This is why I visit reddit less and less. It's become a shithole for weird, control freak shills to get off on power trips. I have no idea why reddit allows it to continue, except that they are corporate owned and must be getting paid by a group of parties interested in controlling mass media, ever since reddit got popular.

It's too bad. Reddit had the potential to be a great site. But I get turned off almost every time I come here anymore. It's just a circle-jerk of extremely closed-minded people maskerading as liberals.

I'm a very liberal thinker in many ways, and I find the brigading, whining, power tripping idiots (mostly SJWs) who have no purpose in life but to preach weird victimhood on social media like it's a badge of honor - disgusting. They aren't liberal. They are more like fascists - there's one way to think, their's, or you get brigaded, banned, etc.

It sucks to me that it ruined a potentially good site, but I laugh at the fact that these losers spend their entire day acting like 14 year olds. They probably are - I can't imagine any of them have a life resembling that of an adult.

Oh, well. There's a lot of sites out there better than reddit. It will be in the realm of myspace, livejournal, and AOL sites soon. They and 4chan can circlejerk one another about how they took over sites and turned them to shit, while the rest of us go have lives and have long forgotten whoever they are and whatever they did.

I'm glad this sub is at least a place where the idea of free speech is still taken seriously. You'll notice that the places where free speech is respected thrive. And places where control freaking is rampant disappear pretty quickly.

Sorry about the bans. You know you can just create another username and keep on using those subs if you have any desire. If they start shadowbanning you or something, just use a VPN or Tor or whatever and do the same thing - that is, if you give a shit at all about watching those places crumble and fail.

This sort of shit happens all the time on Reddit. If you post anything further right than establishment GOP safe zones, you can get banned REAL fast, even if its a reasonable question or government verified statistics. Reddit is a place that demands everyone be inclusive, unless its ideas that conflict with the progressive agenda. Thought diversity is a bannable offense!

Standard nwo 'free speech^tm ' . You are free to say and think anything .... anything that's in line with us, ofc. Only a -insert current buzzword for thought criminal- would not agree, and we ban/imprison/relocate/shoot enemies of freedom^tm .

Internets... So srs.... Such biz.

And this will be forgotten b the end of the day. Nothing will come of his actions.

This is kinda of funny really. This kind of thing never happens to actual racists, bigots, etc... Always some innocent target who does something rather innocuous. If they actually attempt to bring their bullshit to the hundreds of hate subs on reddit it's like poking a hornet's nest with a stick and there will be backlash. By doing it to a nobody (no offense) not affiliated with a hate sub they get this miniscule victory with zero repercussions. It's just stroking their own ego.

So we have come full circle.

The Digg kids left Digg because the admins realized popular vote is a terrible way to build a community when 15 year old are dictating the parameters of the discussion. Digg tried to empower superusers to proactively keep the house in order. Reddit tried handle the influx by empowering mods and splintering the community by removing the front page.

This has created the problem for Reddit that all the Digg kids were afraid would happen there...because they all came to Reddit! Of course, it's not even 99% of the users fault. It's the 1%...or in this case, two guys.

Some solutions I see:

. Remove the motivation for abuse of mod powers by removing user moderated subreddits from /r/all and other advertising like trending.

. Once above a certain threshold (ex. top 5% of subreddits), moderators may no longer be anonymous and have to be vetted by Reddit Corp. in as transparent a way as is responsible. Something along the lines of a job interview.

. Continue the splinter path and remove static mods. Make everyone a mod, and allow people to choose who moderates their favorite subreddits. The end result would be that, for example, the /r/politics front page could look very different for users depending on their moderator choices.

This /u/davidreiss666 fellow seems to take reddit way too serious.

"I have the second most downvoted comment of all time - I'm basically a god. Now that comment would have gotten me all kinds of imaginary internet points."

No, you motherfuckers who think there is some grand conspiracy going on are the ones who take reddit too goddamn seriously. It's a fucking website, get the fuck over yourselves.

mods 92 subs

does it for free

tells others they take a site too seriously

is a confirmed IRL fat fuck neckbeard

There's a mod in /r/offmychest that automatically bans anyone who posts in /r/fatpeoplehate

People believe she/they use a bot to do this. You can try it out if you want - just make a post in /r/fatpeoplehate and you will see soon that you are no longer able to post in /r/offmychest

It's pretty hilarious.

There are also a lot of instances of people who post in /r/fatpeoplehate who get banned by mods of other subreddits, with the reason for their ban being that they posted in /r/fatpeoplehate

There's a level of stalkerish creepy to some of the mod activity on Reddit. Thank goodness for throwaways!

just as you are allowed to say anything you want, other people are allowed to prevent you from coming near them when you say it.

That same mod used to mod white hate subs like crackertown. she erased everything when I posted it to FPH.

Kind of makes sense though, If you do 'hate' fatties, it seems like poetic justice that neither of you can get that weight off your chest.

I'm here all day.

So, a fat person?

Fat people hate was reportedly down vote brigading when other subreddits complained about fatpeoplehate being a toxic community, including offmychest, that's why people are being auto banned.

I highly doubt that. In all my lurkings I've never seen that happen, primarily because according to FPH rules you cannot link to other parts of reddit or your post will be swiftly deleted.

While not required, you are requested to use the NP domain of reddit when crossposting. This helps to protect both your account, and the accounts of other users, from administrative shadowbans. The NP domain can be accessed by prefacing your reddit link with np.reddit.com.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

Yeah, there shouldn't be a mod watching over 130 subreddits, but you're an idiot if you think what you post isn't racist. I'm glad you got banned.

Wow...that's actually pathetic.

The fact that these morons actually get some kind of power fantasy for moderating glorified forums is hilarious.

Whatever it was you posted, there's no excuse for the lack of professionalism in their replies to you. Don't they have to adhere to some training and standards for communicating with subscribers? They represent Advance Publications and the Newhouse family, whether they like it or not.

Fuck you /u/davidreiss666 and you /u/agentlame for being shit mods.

Dude. You are a racist. You are not innocent here. The mods overreacted but this is not a conspiracy. You can't act like you're being oppressed when you post the kind of shit you do everywhere. Of course you're going to be silenced, your views are shitty and extremely outdated.

I don't know what the code of conduct policy for reddit is, but if this any other company. These mods that responded you in such a manner would lose thier privilege.

the attitude of the admins is that mods can do whatever the hell they want with their subs, and if people don't like it, they can leave. These mods are currently breaking Reddit, and if the admins don't deal with it, I think it's safe to assume that they're doing what they're doing with the full knowledge and tacit consent of the admins.

WHO. CARES.

This place is getting faggier than tumblr.

That's shitty. I'm sorry :(

DavidReiss is a massive cancerous dick on reddit. Seriously anything that he even remotely considers racist gets banned. Besides /r/europe is a shithole of leftist censorship. It's doomed. OP if you don't want to be censored etc. when discussing European topics go to /r/european.

If you DON'T have ULTRA-LIBERAL world view, then DON'T comment in r/europe or r/worldnews. These subreddits are "governed" by ultra-liberal moderators and they do not tolerate anyone who has different political or world views. Your posts will get deleted and you WILL get banned.

Can I have some of that crack you're smoking that makes you think worldnews is liberal. It's obviously amazing stuff.

Sheep can't smoke crack.

Ye totally, that is why reddit gives you the option to make your own r/rednecksofeurope or r/notracistactualyesyourracist.

You can title your submissions; "nignog from niggerland, acts niggerly" or whatever else you racists assholes are attracted to reading.

Did you forget to take your pills this morning, retard?

So what you're saying is that everyone who has little different views is a racist. This is litterally the dumbest shit I've read this week, and it's only Monday. Tumbrl all over again.

We prefer /r/coontown

Deepest sympathies for OP, it's horrible when a minority make a website or forum a place you no longer wish to be. If you read this, I honestly hope this shit gets sorted, currently sharpening my pitchfork for when we need to mob the mods.

I wanna know the article you posted that started the whole thing.

Reddit is fucking disgusting and I wish there was an alternative that didn't suck.

You seem to believe that super jews control everything and that nations have a right to cleanse their people of impure ethnicities.

Funny, I think that the only country actively engaged in cleansing "their people of impure ethnicities" today would, in fact, be Israel.

So the OP is subscribed to 400 subreddits? Maybe the mods are doing him a favor.

Idk the first page of your post history is antisemitic and vaguely racist. Maybe they had enough of you?

If you were banned by two powertripping mods with authority across hundreds of subreddits, there's no conspiracy. You were simply banned, however inappropriately, by two mods. They took a dislike to something you posted, and prevented you from posting anywhere else where they had the ability to do so.

Hey my name's ren ho3k and here's my hot take

Reddit is essentially an internet forum and internet forum posts have never really changed anything in the history of the world. You can take a 1,000 heartfelt facebook posts or whatever and add them all up and they wouldn't be worth one actual person going out into the world and doing an actual thing.

So why is so much time and resources spent trying to expose this reddit shadow moderator conspiracy when none of it would have changed shit anyway?

Real shame you've been banned from a few hundred subreddits. I wouldn't sweat it dude, most of those fucking thugs are lowlifes with nothing going on in their lives.

reddit mods - Rated T

All hail Chairman Pao!!

I support your stance on all of these issues. This is a sad situation, reddit used to stand for something special. It used to stand for free speech. A place where the voice in the crowd could be heard if it had something valuable to say. But inevitably another website will be created. One that is better than what reddit has become, a place that stands for uncensored honest opinions. Even though it too may fall, so shall the cycle repeat. And hopefully free speech shall prevail.

I was banned from /r/diy for telling the mod to go fuck himself and linked him a picture of a butthole.

Agree with this guy or not, I'm intrigued by this reddit regime change thing that's going on here. You go man.

this is so funny. being a mod is literally their identity. look at how much they abuse their insignificant power. how small do they have to be to feel so important moderating on reddit.

All I know is that if you post once to /r/fatpeoplehate you will be banned from /r/offmychest even if you have never posted in that sub. This type of global ban is the same kind of logic that the credit card companies used until recently with something called "universal default." Whereby you failed to pay one credit card, and all of your credit cards moved from their normal rates to their default rates.

Completely absurd and in stark contrast with the values of this website.

Ellen Pao must be removed!

I can't fucking stand this agenda Ellen Pao is apparently trying to push.

Why must every online community fall to corruption? Says a lot about mankind I guess.

So do those mods have power in every subreddit?

Also a mod saying "fuck you asshole" shouldn't be a mod at all. In my opinion they should be more "civil".

GO GO POWER MODDERS!!

I was banned from both /r/feminism and /r/offmychest. Given no reason and was not messaged back.

I feel you.

so... open a new account.... ??

All good things must come to an end, even reddit. I still use a few subreddits that really don't have any reason for politics to sway the mods, and hell, I check out some nsfw subreddits, but so many mods on here use straight opinion and politics. Abuse of power. United States of reddit

See, this the real problem with letting reddit "police itself". Regular people get into power positions on very popular subreddits, power trip, and push a retarded agenda because at the end of the day if they were a productive and useful member of society, they wouldn't be spending all their time modding reddit.

So will there any action be taken by Reddit admins and get rid of these shitty mods or..... ?

/u/DavisReiss666 also banned me from /r/Europe because he thinks its wrong that i am a subscriber of /r/Watchpeopledie.

He is a complete loser.

Wow these people are complete and utter fucking cunts. FUCK YOU, you pieces of shit.

Pretty much looking like Reddit's time is up. Somehow moderators are destroying a platform based on self-moderation. This behavior is fucking childish and pathetic, who the fuck makes high school freshmen their moderators? Honeslty if a bus containing these people got lit on fire and exploded, it would be a benefit to the world.

If these utterly incompetant cunts want to drown free speech on Reddit, guess it's time to find a new place to go. Why the fuck are children assigned to moderate subs? Look at how these people responded. If that isn't a bunch of adolescents, that's sad,. what a shameful way for adults to act. These small, small people are on some kind of utterly fucking pathetic and laughable powertrip.

Where can we go next? There's one of these posts like every week, and I'm sure this happens ALL the time and doesn't get posted about. Not like making new accounts and scrubbing IP is hard, as if anyone we take seriously actually gives a fuck about karma.

I'm done with reddit. I'm done with manchildren default mods, I'm done with the fucking nonsense arbitrary rules in most subs. It's time for something new. The admins and mods finally achieved their apparent ultimate goal of smashing Reddit's nuts with a hammer so it's a completely tame, neutered, sanitized place with no good discussion about anything. Just one massive circlejerk that all follows the same approved narrative. Better make sure the topic you wanna talk about is on the approved list of circlejerks. Whole topics can be removed, thousands of hours of people working on posts to submit. Why post? What's next? Reddit is fucking done, people. These days reddit is less a news aggregator and more of an advertising aggregator, and thats the way the admins want it anyways. Welcome to fucking Digg 2, folks. This is indeed cancer, and it's terminal. If we don't do some kind of invasive operation and remove these fucking disgusting, malignant, toxic, tumors, Reddit will die a slow painful death.

Just for arguments sake, let's assume you were/are a racist. You still shouldn't be banned. While I find racism idiotic, its a viewpoint that people should have the right to express. It's something how truly difficult people have accepting free speech.

those people still thinking for themselves know reddit is finished and the clamp is coming imminently, it feels like a regime propaganda outlet already, time to jump ship to somewhere less controlled, the smart people find something else and move on.

This thread is totally getting brigaded.

TIL you can get drunk with subReddit power.

We should fight for what Aaron Shwartz really wanted and get Pao to resign as CEO

There has to be a Reddit wide rule, you can only be a mod of 5 subreddits.

No way can you be an effective mod of over 100 subreddits like /u/davidreiss666

I've been pretty outspoken about my disgust for reddit and its censorship, but I'm having a hard time being sympathetic in your case. Further, you're a troll. Half of your comment history's first page is three word insults and idiotic drivel. You claim to not be racist, but based on your comment history, it appears to me that you are biased in saying so. Being targeted for a dissenting opinion is one thing, but you have a clear racial bent and you apparently can't at least be honest about it, furthering my belief you're nothing more than a troll. True racists can at least be honest about it, but whitewashing it is the oldest trick in the troll book. You deserve your banning. Make another account if it bothers you so.

I don't agree with this at all, but would like to say a similar thing happened to me at /r/morbidreality I made a comment that was worded incorrectly and attempted to clarify it yet was still banned. I questioned why I was banned and in my situation the mod who banned me wouldn't respond. Another did and didn't really make sense. Power goes to people's heads.

Reddit is awesome, except for the mods.

here

Fuck that bitch.

Thank you for a good write-up. The pettiness of these mods is just despicable.

I use reddit to see funny pics and stuff. I could care less about this kind of drama.

So how do we get this jabroni to stop?

I pity you, and the hundreds of others out there too, me included.

Yep, conspiracy alright.

I mean i see the problem and the mod is definitely a shitbird, but is it really unfair or any of those things? Its a fuckin internet forum run by a HUGE corporation. There isnt free speech. There isnt any "fairness". You are using a companies service and they no longer want that relationship. So just leave. I dont see what else there is to talk about.

Lately ive been spending much more time on 4chan.

The concept of a Shadowban or whatever as I saw someone point out awhile back is the truest form of being a coward.

I assumed this site would have learned from the Gamegate incident that trying to conceal and hide things instead propels it like an atomic bomb, no truer example I could think of was that two weeks of something that would have faded instead because the center point of 3 months of conversation topics in multiple websites.

Reddit these days really needs some serious overhauling and management working, Bias will always exist but the current management is so biased towards these bizzare social crusades that exist to only cause anger and stir up problems.

Yet... I think that's kind of why it's set up this way, more clicks to random websites, more money in pockets. All in all I believe the answer to Reddit being such a cesspool as the time went on is the oldest answer in the book.

Money.

Nice to see Reddit Admins don't give a flying fuck.

I don't understand how you were being racist...

Well I went through your history and you do seem a little bent on asserting points concerning black people and misrepresentation of white people in the media but I mean even though I probably disagree with your opinions I don't think you should be banned for it.

Can't you just make a new account? Mod powers are limited...

yeah, if only there was a way to stop people from being racist with new accounts.

Time to go to Voat!

But Bernie sanders!

“The peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error.” - JSM

You are the guy that coined the fappening. I dont want to see you go :(.

Edit: if you end up making a new account please pm me your new username.

ive been banned from r/movies for years due to an uppity mod, but this is ridiculous

They were Jews...

i'm surprised this is still up

OY VEY! SHUT IT DOWN!

dude your link and gif cracked me the fuck up good on you =)

Wow that's fucking gross.

Just sent David a message just saying "Eat shit", I wonder if that's reason to be banned?

I hate when people get power trips and ruin shit for the rest of us. It's because of them that people hate even the good mods.

man, fuck reddit

These guys are so fucking childish it almost makes me want to laugh. Almost.

This is disgraceful.

Subscribe to /r/conspiracy

I've been getting banned from subs I never even visit, let alone post to. I think there's an automatic ban bot searching user histories and autobanning them if they don't conform to the standards of whoever is running them.

Fucking disgusting.

This is the type of shit that will kill Reddit, the same way it kills countries. A few power hungry elite get to make the rules and don't see the folly before them. Eventually the people will be heard... Either by voting or finding a better alternative to a doomed site in this case.

Have an upvote. What do we do now?

Same thing, no reason except power trip. Jerk said good luck getting it reversed. Reversed :)

yo this site sux. go elsewhere where u can still see negative and positive votes.

fuck that bitch. #ELLENPAOMUSTGO

Shame really, i honestly enjoyed your comments and submissions /u/ExileOnMeanStreet, these power mods are fucking pathetic intellectual parasites.

There is only one way to fight pieces of shit like /u/davidreiss666, create your own monopoly and use the same tactics to ostracize them. Sad but its the reality.

I got banned from /r/stopdrinking for a comment that indicated that I hated the sub...I don't! I tried to reason with the mod, but alas it was futile. I wasn't able to appeal to any other mods... I moderate on a VERY large and popular forum, and we NEVER ban someone unless two staff members agree. All bans/admin action against someone is seen by all staff.

Leftists always try to control the mass media by silencing dissent.

It's not just leftists.

What a bunch of little cunts.

The sad conclusion is not to take reddit seriously.

... Does /u/davidreiss666 even have a job? Holy fucking shit. I mean I knew powerusers were a thing because that's really what lead to the downfall of digg.com.. However I feel like anyone with that much spare time and dedication, if they're not a self made millionaire they're a failed human being.

Let's keep it 100, u/Exileonmeanst you're history shows you're a fucking asshole. Now, don't get me wrong, I think the Mod who banned you from hundreds of subs is an even bigger Asshole. So it's: o Vs. O hole

This subs mods is just as dirty as any other. Only 1 mod is king of less than 5.

sooo.... what's the next reddit then?

How depressing that it is this asshole's story I have to vote up in order to express my disgust with reddit moderators and their censoring power trips.

They have no power....nothing....banning people on a website that you can simply log in as someone else and carry on proves how much 'power' MODS have.

With so many downvote-worthy posts in the past, you have the power to make reddit a better place. If the mods don't beat you to it, that is.

Is this a good place to bring up the fact that I was banned from /r/feminism for no reason at all? I never even posted anything or commented.

I didn't read it all, but I checked the mod responses, they look like 12 year olds on the internet.

What do you expect ? Even if 10 000 people write about this, they will not do anything about this because they don't have to.

Were you banned from /r/squaredcircle ? Because that's the only subreddit that matters

I don't think it's a conspiracy, more like good modding.

Being fat drunk or stupidly thinking reddit means anything to anyones life ever is pathetically sad..

I was gonna upvote but now I suspect this post is just a rouse to round up dissenters. We're treading dangerous waters here...

This sounds like a day in the life of a /r/India mod.

I love how the mods in question just act like children, not even hiding the fact that they Banned you for having an opinion. Just a bunch of stroppy little girls (no offense to women/girls)

And just how unprofessional can /u/Creesch be? What an asshat. A good example of how the mods are becoming more and more immature and act like small mini dictators.

Seems more genuine than you, you probably have a right wing agenda and want to turn everyone against the left

I don't hang out in your subreddits, I don't know firsthand the content or tone of your posts, but this is a very well written and thoughtful post. Good luck.

Problem is no voat app for android, I do most of use of reddit on my phone.

The mods are Fucking dicks. I broke a rule I had no idea of (because rules aren't available anywhere on reddit is fun mobile app). I got a little snarky with the mod and I'm banned from wtf. They think they're cool, they think they're doing the work of the people, when really they're just a bunch of losers in the real world so they try to make up for it by being powerful in the reddit world. They're basically the reddit equivalent to a real life cop abusing their power.

/r/undelete gaining better stories than the rest of reddit.

Come to 3tags.org - get paid to post and conspiracies welcome, in fact part of the way forward to build a better future.

Why did they allow this post to stay up?

1. Reddit would be a better place without /u/davidreiss666. He's a classic example everything that is wrong with this site. The admins could and should act against these "power mods" but they won't. They're the catspaws.

2. Who cares if you think his comment history is racist, that's not the point, and bringing it up here edges on a huge ad hominem. He could he could a card carrying member of the KKK, that still doesn't justify what happened to him. Banning from one sub? That's a bit of a gray area. Banning from 400? That's turning the alleged racist into a victim. You don't fight bad speech with mod abuse and power tripping, you fight it with more speech, with a ban as the last resort rather than the first.

I'm telling people. These power (tripping) mods, enabled by the corrupt SJW admins will destroy this site, little by little, piece by piece. And it'll be sad. I'm unbelievably fed up this kind of shit.

They sound just like high school kids. If the admins don't stop this shit reddit is dead.

This is the problem with reddit. It is no longer a platform for communication. It's a platform for propaganda. A select few people control too much. And the fact that people can be banned for posting something that the mods disagree with is laughable.

Reddit is a site to brainwash and control and manipulate. Not to discuss. Voting is meaningless because you can be banned at the whim of a few "power" users.

The sooner reddit disappears and something else takes its place, the better.

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I believe it.

Fuck that guy. My response would be do you not like to live a free life? Because your pushing to not live a free life and have people control what you say like the Stasi and your just the start of it.

Have you noticed you come off as highly racist.

Tons of white fuckers don't pay taxes every year. Why single out All Sharpton? Fuck taxes anyway. Government don't know how to spend my money.

I wouldn't be surprised if black on white violence was a problem. Just look at all the diversity of violent people. Mostly they've all got one thing in common: Less than their wealthy neighbors who practice lawful violence.

I agree that reddit is dead.

You come across as highly racist. Racism isn't popular on reddit. At least it wasn't. Good luck with that.

Typical cowardly, subversive and deceitful leftist behavior, I expect nothing less from them honestly.

You cannot allow critical thinking to break through your delusional construction of reality so you amass power and influence in order to ban and censor any opposing and alternate viewpoints. It is the hallmark of a leftist to censor and silence instead of engage in debate and explain your actions and opinions in an honest way, because anything that challenges their ideology is immediately a threat as it could poke holes and expose fallacies in their fragmented worldview - especially in regards to what is happening in Europe right now, and what the future of Europe entails if it is not stopped. That is why so many people get banned from /r/europe, the mods seem hellbent on enforcing the leftist viewpoint, and I'm honestly not surprised that they do the same for other subs they control as well.

Honestly this whole funny situation reminds me of the marxist "long march through the institutions", where throughout the 1960's leftists and communist subversives were slowly but surely acquiring power and spreading their single ideology across a broad spectrum of American institutions (academia, media, science, literature, education, politics, etc) subverting and slowly censoring and pushing out the opposing traditional ideologies. Well that seems to be what has happened now to reddit in a similar sense.

One can ask what is the point of browsing a sub where the leftist ideology, thriving only on shaky foundations and great delusion supported by extreme censorship and leftist authoritarianism is the only ideology allowed? It's childish and dishonorable to the extreme. Reddit is not the only site where you see this kind of oppressive censorship of any viewpoints that challenge the "progressive" left, neogaf also comes to mind.

It is of great concern how this many subreddits are under the control of such a small group of mods, censoring and banning with abandon, corrupt and cowardly. In my view reddit needs to break up this mod monopoly - limit severely the amount of subreddits one is able to mod. Otherwise if only one viewpoint/ideology is enforced over such a broad spectrum of subreddits there can be no free speech and honest inquiry at all. And why such childish and obviously dishonest behavior has been allowed to persist for so long is of great mystery to me.

The real question is how do you even become a mod of so many subreddits? I can never even become a mod of even one medium size subreddit :o

If all this is true I find it hilarious that there is corruption in the leaders of all of the political subreddits.

Yeah I'm not a fan of the mods either

/u/trollabot ExileOnMeanStreet

Like to see what David says about this.

Secondly, never fight with a mod (or especially not an admin). You can't win and it annoys the mod.

I want to see bipolarbear in real life

inb4 shadowb& for outing some mods

My posts there were deleted for no reason.

People in power always wind up being cocksuckers... Yes I said it... Cocksuckers.

It's behavior and comments like those from these mods that make reddit looks like it's run by a bunch of bratty little kids drunk on power and not like a professional company

There needs to be a rule that you cannot be a mod of more than 3 subreddits on the same IP.

It's like some goofy cartoon where the cop that arrested you is also your judge, lawyer and prison guard.

Is this guy Q?

I used to have another account, and i posted some very right-wing comments on various political subreddits. After about a month, i was banned from posting in every political subreddit, including /r/Republican, /r/Conservative, etc. and all of my comments were removed. I never even received a note from a mod, just automatic messages that i had been banned, with the user as "[deleted]".

They should limit the amount of subreddits one person may moderate

Hail glorious leader Chairwomyn Pao!

Jump ship to voat.co. it's like reddit without all the SJW bullshit and mods with too much power.

Why don't the mods delete this whole thread? I don't get it.

Because there is no conspiracy and this makes OP look like a moron. Everybody is reading his white supremacist post history and agreeing with the mods.

I think it might be a good time to start mirroring posts that are in any way controversial and valuable to either voat, archive.today, and/or imgur. It's pretty clear it can go down any time now, and this information is valuable.

Any bot-herders maybe?

Great job! I'm left-wing myself (on most questions, anyway), but I HATE this kind of behaviour - and I've seen this way to much from the (far-)left/SJWs.

Kill the masters

Mods hate this sub badly. Even the CEO does. Holding anyone to account to their actions are to be buried. They want this to be a giant circle jerk.

They don't hate this sub, they know anything labeled conspiracy makes you look crazy, so only crazy people post here. At least that is their thought process. Basically I think they feel let r/conspiracy have at it because everyone knows conspiracies aren't true. Little do they know that conspiracies are becoming more and more believable as they are being exposed everyday

Don't care.

Fuckcniggg

What racist shit is he speaking of?

Reddit needs a spring cleaning, perma ban all current mods and start fresh, if they did nothing wrong, let them fight for their old post back, in which they have to explain why the deserve it, and these appeals should be public with polls to vote in their favor or lack thereof. It will give them a taste of their own medicine. This should be done every couple of years to prevent corruption.

Another way to do it is to have redditors vote their own mods in, any potential mod candidate must submit a public statement why they deserve to be a mod and have users vote whether he/she should or should not be a mod, and every year the actions of this mod should be made aware publicly to be peer reviewed, if he/she his found to be a good mod, he/she will stay, if not, he/she's off the mod team forever.

And it goes without saying that noone should be a mod of more than one subreddit, because, realistically, how can you expect one person to successfully moderate more than one at a time?

OP...as the racist your clearly are (by your posting history), all I can say is that it's a shame you weren't completely banned from Reddit. Saying that, the way the mods handled this was unprofessional.

I haven't subbed to any of these subs, so they must be SHIT anyway. Frustrating for you tho, I know 😔 I won't be going near any of those subs and it sounds like the mod /u/davidreiss666 is a silly whiny bitch and not one who's getting some.

I've been checking out "VOAT" it has a shitty name and it looks like it's from the 80s but the principal looks pretty good.

https://voat.co/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LlQNty_C8s

/u/iscuck_bot davidreiss666

How pathetic is your life that you can devote so much of it to moderating this website?

Not nearly as pathetic as the person who comments on how pathetic someone is for having a legitimate complaint.

EDIT: Probably misread that. Carry on.

I didn't look through your post history so I have no idea if the mods are right, but what gets me is I can never understand these mod power trips and power struggles on reddit. Its fucking reddit, who cares that much?

http://imgur.com/TD4Dl0l Keep it up. We are winning. 100x users on /r/Conspiracy vs /r/Liberal

So many fucking trash mods out there.

Lol people actually feel powerful modding on Reddit? And can't you just make another account if you're banned from a subreddit?

All mods are faggots taking it in the ass from delusional Ellen Pao.

Well that's what you get with disagreeing with tolerant people you bigot

I wonder if you understand the irony of your own reply.

/r/fatpeoplehate and /r/politics have thin-skinned babies modding them too.

To get insta-banned from FPH just point out how gays are killing themselves by choosing to not wear a condom, perfectly mirroring the dirision they have for the obese.

To get insta-banned from politics, just say "normal people" wthout specifically including transexuals or homosexuals, and the queers and trannies that mod will permaban you before you can say "AIDs".

To get insta-banned from FPH just point out how gays are killing themselves by choosing to not wear a condom, perfectly mirroring the dirision they have for the obese.

That's because you broke their sub rules though, one of which is no fat sympathy. They have 0 tolerance for any argument or post that leans towards fat sympathy. I got banned from FPH but I did have it coming, for breaking that rule. Haha.

At least their mods enforce their rules quite consistently, and they don't go banning people from other subreddits.

Mods are gods

Love the subtle "DAE hat ellen pao?" lure in the title

You don't help your argument by using labels like "Leftist". Stick to describing the bad behavior itself.

Upvote if you hate Ellen Pao.

I for one miss fucking miss the old Reddit. If it's just going to be some soap box for Ellen's BS I'm heading over to Voat.

The value system at the top is so fucked up. Looking for a payout with a BS lawsuit, condones fraud by marrying a guy who is guilty of ripping off nearly $150M, bans salary negotiations to ensure only the drones want to work at Reddit, and now wants to censors to make the world full of rainbows and unicorns... it's all fucked.

http://fortune.com/2012/10/25/ellen-pao-buddy-fletcher/

http://nypost.com/2015/02/18/case-builds-against-former-ny-hedgie-buddy-fletcher/

http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/07/technology/reddit-pao-negotiations/

http://fortune.com/2015/03/30/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-2/

I'm shadow banned from several subs because I think conspiritards believe I'm some sort of a threat. It's a conspiracy.

so the social justice warriors on /r/conspiracy have gathered their pitchforks in defense of a racist. cool.

How much time and energy did you waste creating that timeline. Who cares if you get banned in a subreddit you don't comment on.

Who fucking cares? Just make a new account and get more obnoxious with it. When they ban the new one up the ante. The general public doesnt know who is who on here and they dont validate a comment by looking at who wrote it. Spread truth and leave the kid shit to yourself. Use their power against them and nullify all of those bullshit and propaganda posts they try to plaster the site with now.

What fun user names can you come up with?

ooh, did i touch a nerve, Ellen? 8 upvotes then suddenly 3 down.

A racist was banned from subreddits pertaining to news and history?

Good riddance. Why don't you try leaving your parents' basement, OP?

Are you seriously saying that racists have no place in an open and honest discussion of news and history, when they are an integral part of news and history? Really? Do you also suggest diplomats ignore half of a culture before trying to negotiate? Maybe NASA should pretend that gravity doesn't exist, since it will make the work easier.

Uh, when it's time to discuss facts, there's no room for racists and their lies.

Who gives a shit?

No conspiracy here. Two second look at your history makes it clear. You're an asshole that got treated like an asshole by some other asshole. Stop crying.

/r/conspiracy consider this decentralized reddit clone

http://getaether.net/

There is also https://voat.co but we all know the same thing will happen to them if they get popular.

Well that's it bye guys I'm done with reddit now.

?????

People appointed moderator of a subreddit are specifically allowed to moderate as they see fit. If you don't like it, your only remedy is to not use that subreddit. This is no different than, well, anywhere else.

Why not find out where they live and beat the shit out of them?

Beating someone up over a ban on an internet site

really now..?

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Fuck this, I'm jumping ship. What is a cuck-free alternative to reddit?

You sound pretty mad : ^ ).

GJ pushing the envelop with your enlightening stories about 12 year olds in Italian schools.

What's next? 13 year old Becky from Orlando didn't get the new iPhone before the school started?

this is part and parcel of your white supremacist beliefs.

"I'm not racist"

yeah okay bud. Tell your sob story elsewhere.

Here's a conspiracy: the majority of people don't like racists!

Omg. Mind blown. Good riddiance.

We should have some kind of program to have people like him taught the proper way to think. Since they have had such a terrible education, it's obvious that they need to be educated again for their own good. Guess we could call it re-education. We should also make them do some labour during the process as well, so that the cost of housing and teaching them is not a burden on society. It's known that 'work will set you free‘’ of improper thoughts.

Reddit is not a public space. It's a private company. You can complain about not being allowed to say racist shit all day...but it's not a matter of free speach nor of rights nor of justice. Whether we like it or nor, the user is here to make the owner money. The owners owe us nothing.

So you've been stalking him for months, researching posts from two years ago, and you wonder why you got banned?

/u/trollabot TehAlpacalypse

You are one of the very few people i have bothered to tag as racist. I've seen you time time and again copypasting stuff from stormfront, get rekt by other posters disputing your "facts", and then one hour later, same copy pasta in another thread. It is only natural that a racist weirdo like you got banned.

Yes, /r/subredditcancer is the perfect place for racists and other dipshits to post their paranoid delusions. This post would fit in perfectly.

This is it! Reddit is officially over. See you all on the other side.

It is? How come? I mean idiots like you have been posting this for close to a year now. Yet you still haven't left? Why haven't you deleted your account yet? No one cares if you fuck off to voat. Why do you keep pretending that you will leave but then never fucking actually follow up from it? Do you think we gonna beg you not to leave? Get the fuck out already.

Clearly I needed an /s there.

Bitch I was reading through some of your comments. You are a racist u fucking bitch. U are like those Aryan motherfuckers who say they aren't racist but they wanna preserve the white culture. Bitch look at middle America so called "white culture" is slowing but surely turning black. I love fucking white women, they love to swallow big dick and love to drink this cum. I'm going to mingle with and fuck as many white women as I can just for motherfuckers like you. U racist bitch!

Black power.

Ur silly cuz I'm not black. The power indeed tho.

The reason that you have been banned, obviously, is for the shitstorm that you tend to leave in your wake. You are a deeply racist person. You are profoundly toxic to every community, and they obviously have the right to ban you, and even though you are "entitled" to your opinion, your opinion is not original, and no one is missing out when you are deprived of your privilege to share it.

More specifically, I read your example posts, and you seem to have two theses.

The first seems to stem from the idea political correctness has gone too far. This would not cause a shitstorm on its own. It's probably true. The conclusion that draw, however, is that the solution to this problem is to simply reinstitute racism.

There is literally no crime committed by a black person in America that will make the media talk about racial issues in a way where black people are being criticized.

No shit.

Your second thesis is somehow more hypocritical. In which you point out that Islamic, or secular ideology is toxic, and should be treated as such, but then choose to make this VERY POST defending yourself by saying that it does not matter if YOUR ideology is toxic. As long as it is popular, you should be allowed to share it indiscriminately.

Pick one.

I agree. I was rooting for OP until I started reading the kind of stuff he rights. But that's my problem to deal with, as a Muslim. I still think he was treated unjustly. I don't know if I can call him a common racists for sure, since he presents his arguments in a cohesive fashion. I liked reading his posts and though I hated the blatant generalizations (unbecoming of how he writes), but I don't see why discussion promoting cohesive posts that beg the opposite view point to bring their A game should be banned and or deleted. This gives the poster she his views more credibility then it deserves.

I dunno, I think I reserve the right to ban provably wrong posters if they are going to dominate the discussion, and have demonstrated an inability to change their minds.

The problem is that anyone who wants to agree with OP will, regardless of accuracy because he seems well researched. Discrediting him in a subcomment is not sufficient, because it is less visible, and it does not force OP to retract his comment. Other readers inherit his stubbornness, and the propaganda spreads.

OP is an infectious disease, and should be handled with pragmatism. His "freedom of speech" just means that the community is responsible for silencing him, since the government is not allowed to.

Is you being racist not a good enough reason?

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You okay, man?

Want to talk about it?

Rules 4 & 10. Removed.

People really need to stop being so fucking buttmad over Ellen Pao.

more racist mods banning anyone that doesn't support their racism of whites I imagine.

They're also part of a bigger organization that has to do whatever the one in charge decides.

And........nobody cares!

Try getting a hobby outside of trolling reddit and being a virgin.

Subreddits are privately owned places, not open forums. It's not a popular opinion, but you don't get free speech rights in privately owned places, and no one has to put up with your racism in their private area if they don't feel like it (and your post history is full of this). Personally I wouldn't want someone like you around me, I don't think it's unfair that someone also decided this and stopped you from being around them. It's shitty that one person has this much power, but all those places decided to give him this power and have by extension decided you are too racist to be posting there.

I too agree that ops opinions are fairly racist. He is using the actions of a few oppressed people to extrapolate that all people of a certain race are terrible. Uh ok...

I'm not really sure what the solution is for someone like OP. Banning seems egregious, petty, and gives his views more legitimacy than they deserve.

I don't think mass banning someone because you don't agree with their opinions is a very adult thing to do, however at the same time I don't think anyone's at fault for it if they want to do it. It's just immature, not morally wrong.

These are our core values. Allow freedom of expression. Be stewards, not dictators. The community owns itself.

http://www.reddit.com/about/values/

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Downvote galore. But it's the truth. Freedom of speech doesn't mean a god damn thing in private establishments (Reddit). Freedom of speech, as in the USA's Bill of Rights, is freedom to criticize the government and be free of jail time. It's hilarious how many people want to say dumb shit then get mad at the back lash because they don't understand the right they try to hide behind.

Banning you may be a shitty response, but on privately owned forums you have no real rights.

Which is hilarious because so many of the people yelling about censorship I guarantee have beliefs that fall in line with libertarian ideals, which essentially, if they had their way, would get rid of any sense of free speech because free speech is only relevant in the commons, of which libertarianism inherently doesn't recognize.

Point in short: most of the people in this sub have no idea about what they believe.

Lol, reddit beef. So lame. Is this what you neckbeards life came down too? Go outside lol.

unfortunately, voat right now will need a lot of tlc to make itself worthwhile. categories like r/funny are easy to fill, but niche communities are hard to move, and that's the main reason (for me) to go anywhere. it's just more convenient to stay isolated in those niche reddit communities than look for one (or make it in voat)

THE JUUICCEEE

You've just been banned from 512 subs for racism.

You forgot stormfront.org. That's another website I think OP would enjoy.

While I agree this is quite extreme, if true, I refuse to believe this is his only account. It's not like they're rationed. He's obviously portraying himself as the victim and as soon as I saw "slandered as a racist" I didn't even have to check their history to know what I was dealing with.

This kind of time consuming reaction by a longtime power user can only be attributed to some extreme trolling.

[edit] My profile analysis showed nothing too overt but I only looked at submissions. It could be sanitized. He does seem to like men's rights, hate feminists and report a great deal of crimes committed by either women or dark skinned men.

I actually already have OP RES tagged as a racist. So while it might be a bit of mod abuse, it's doubtful he's totally innocent.

I heard reddit is somehow involved tho?

So Voat is the new Reddit, just like Reddit was the new Digg?

Might have to get ahead of that wave before the shit mods get the good positions.

but is there an app?

I'm not trying to be arrogant but to me it looks exactly the same including the website format except there is a lot less content

If only he had the freedom of choice to make his own subreddit or go somewhere he isn't "surpressed". Oh wait. This isn't a public utility, whose access and use you have a right to.

Thank you! The top comments/votes fell for his sensationalist title.

diversity is racism against Whites.

is something this fucker actually said.

Even if you're right, just being an asshole racist shouldn't get you banned from hundreds of subs all at once.

Mods shouldn't have this much control. This is a case of "even a crazy person can make a point". aka "a broke clock is right twice a day".

have you got examples?

Yeah, this is the scenario that's supposed to convince me reddit moderation is bad? I'm glad this guy got banned, fuck him. I wish they would have stepped up banning assholes like this guy years ago. Different definitions of what the "cancer" is that's killing reddit.

Sheep can't smoke crack.

That's what shadowbanning is for,

Then quit using it to silence people you disagree with and shut the fuck up.

Some subreddits have rules against posting racist viewpoints, so there is that.

Yeah, if I ran a subreddit I wouldn't want OP on it either

Can you give some examples?

True. Also people can be compensated, without being paid. I was a moderator on a tech board outside of reddit for a long time, and several popular users were given hardware from time to time in exchange for spamming the board in that company's favor. It doesn't even need to be a concrete transaction, as in "we will give you this if you say that". If you give someone free shit, they'll likely start towing your line of their own free will.

This is not a supposition on my part, I was approached several times by an unnamed hardware manufacturer.

Is there a Voat app? I Reddit via mobile.

I just want a fucking app

Just so you know, I stole all the good Pokemon names

Who cares?

Shouldn't he still be allowed to post?

Ya man!

This was the problem with Google+. Everyone agreed Facebook sucks but there was no way to get everyone to move. So it flopped.

Nice deflection attempt.

Thanks.

Let's Make it So.

It's really boring though.

Thank you. After reading this tread and a few referenced threads I was becoming a little disillusioned.

I joined Reddit a few years ago and recently returned. The main attraction being that the community were the main driving force behind what was promoted... how wrong I was.

You pointed me toward Voat and their philosophy seems more to my liking. I know its not a be-all utopia but nothing is perfect. However, I'm voting with my feet.

Goodbye Reddit. Hello Voat.

Just registered thx :-)

Jamaican me mad now!

Huh, learn something new every day. I'm still going to do it, much like I do with people who use the N-word or try to convince me of things with a faith argument, but it's good to know!

I'm not going to argue with you about this.

I offered some advice; you are free to take it or leave it. I won't hold a grudge either way.

I feel like you were onto something interesting but kind of lost the thread with the idea that companies are setting people up for blackmail. I have no doubt that has happened, just like I have no doubt that people in positions of "power" on internet boards sell their influence, but I firmly believe that the vast majority of the time, it's just people who earnestly believe a certain thing. After all, someone needs to be paying those shills to advance a viewpoint, and the raison d'etre of shills is to convince other people of an idea. For instance, the OP might be a Stormfront troll, he might be someone who bought into the idea of white supremacy from stuff he read from Stormfront trolls on here, or he might just be a random person who signed up here and happens to believe that BS.

It's anyone willing to call out bigotry when they see it. Especially recently, here one reddit, ever since stormfront (Internet's largest white supremacist forum) started brigading and reddit got more popular. Educated folks became less of a majority here and bigots have made some headway.

SJW is the new term, stands for social justice warrior, and is used as a derogatory slur for anyone who criticizes the racist comments of people like good old OP here

Im some guy browsing reddit

A SJW literally is the new Henry Ford.

"You can say anything you want to, so long as we agree with it"

This whole reddit situation depresses me when I think about it's implications on real life power and control.

If a mod gets off on the power and control they receive from a WEBSITE, treats those with differing view points with disdain, and does so with the help of like-minded "power hungry" mods in a figurative cigar smoke-filled backroom... (for no real reason I might add)

Then I can only assume when people have power IRL, the average citizen is fucked, lied to, and manipulated beyond belief. And probably doesn't know it. Again for... what reason? Control freaks man.