r/conspiracy: Vote inside on public access to /r/conspiracy moderation logs.

Vote inside on public access to /r/conspiracy moderation logs.

89 2015-05-27 by Flytape

There are three distinguished comments down below. You must comment to vote. Regular karma votes will not be considered.

One for the mods to vote yes or no in.

One for the community to comment in IF they vote YES for public mod logs (comment should read in the affirmative "YES I want public mod logs!")

And lastly one for the community to comment in IF they vote NO for public mod logs (comment should read in the negative "No I don't want public mod logs!")

SPECIAL NOTE TO ADMINS: I'm not asking for reddit votes as in karma, I'm asking for democratic process from the community here. Do not ban me for asking for votes. As clearly stated above I'm defining a vote as a comment in favor of or against making a this change to our community. Thus I'm not asking for karma-votes and I am not in violation of the rules. Thanks in advance for your understanding.

184 comments

63 Flytape 2015-05-27

YES YOU WANT THEM!

EVERYONE ELSE

Comment here (to vote) YES you want public mod logs!

18 Ziroshi 2015-05-27

Why wouldn't we want public mod logs o.o

13 Flytape 2015-05-27

They could be used to manufacture drama. I'm confident we can overcome that.

7 Ziroshi 2015-05-27

Ah, I can see that happening

Although i do agree that we can overcome it.

2 hack_jealousy 2015-05-27

We we even notice more drama?

1 Flytape 2015-05-27

Fair point!

1 junnies 2015-05-27

drama drives reddit! its a good thing!

4 DukeLeto2 2015-05-27

vote yes to public mod logs.

4 cali2kazan 2015-05-27

yes please.

3 MistrCreazil 2015-05-27

Shouldn't be any way but.

2 YouAreTheResistance 2015-05-27

I vote for public mod logs

2 Balthanos 2015-05-27

Yes I want public mod logs.

2 Eskimoman567 2015-05-27

Yes we want the logs public

2 Here4thaSh0w 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

2 AggregateTurtle 2015-05-27

I Vote yes to public mod logs!

2 SummerSoldier 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

2 Oak_Con_Cry 2015-05-27

yes on public mod logs.

2 Mumberthrax 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

(full disclosure: I operate /u/publicmodlogs, so my biased vote may not count. :P )

2 Flytape 2015-05-27

Sorting features would be nice.

You'll see what I mean now that a big sub is signing up.

3 Mumberthrax 2015-05-27

Good news then, because there is the ability to view the rss/json data filtered by anything you can normally filter by in the moderation log page. It isn't yet baked into the github site, but its open source so if anyone who knows javascript wants to, they could probably slap together a fix, make a pull request and I'd merge it, or fork it and run their own frontend.

For example, this is /r/morrowind's plain-jane moderation log RSS feed: http://www.reddit.com/r/morrowind/about/log/.rss?feed=c7b83b457469643f1912d5fee30e18dba808f351&user=publicmodlogs

and this is only the removed posts: http://www.reddit.com/r/morrowind/about/log/.rss?type=removelink&feed=c7b83b457469643f1912d5fee30e18dba808f351&user=publicmodlogs

3 Flytape 2015-05-27

Grandma wants it baked into the github site.

2 Dnars 2015-05-27

YES

2 maxt0r 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

2 Don117 2015-05-27

Yes to public mods

2 moonpurr 2015-05-27

Yes I want public mod logs.

2 brofidential 2015-05-27

Full transparency.

2 Fastitocalon 2015-05-27

I vote YES to public mod logs!

1 KafkaesqueNightmare 2015-05-27

Yes of course! Did you ever ask the mods about my inquiry regarding public mod votes??

2 Flytape 2015-05-27

Yes that why we are doing our mod vote on this in the public.

5 KafkaesqueNightmare 2015-05-27

Good stuff there, Flytape! I really do appreciate it and I know that other members of the community feel the same! Make sure to send my best regards to the mods! I just hope we can maintain this trend; who knows, it might have site-wide ramifications if we can keep this up!

Edit: ALSO: I just realized that by stepping into the light, opening up to transparency, the mods of this community are directly standing against Chairman Pao's idea of Reddit not being a platform of free speech! That is phenomenal and deserves some praise in and of itself. Good luck on your future endeavors towards transparency, free speech, and freedom of information!

1 BloodWillow 2015-05-27

Yes, please.

1 TrustyTapir 2015-05-27

YES.

1 Ifco 2015-05-27

Yes to public modlogs.

1 hack_jealousy 2015-05-27

If they are anything like Lincoln logs, I'm in!

1 Rhabdomere 2015-05-27

YES

1 shadowofashadow 2015-05-27

Yes

1 TheProdigalKn1ght 2015-05-27

Yes I want public mod logs.

1 redshield3 2015-05-27

Yes

1 nolesforever 2015-05-27

YES, I want public mod logs.

1 zyklorpthehuman 2015-05-27

Yes

1 gbramaginn 2015-05-27

Yes. Si. Oui. Ja. Sim. Hai. Shi. Da.

1 BoringOral 2015-05-27

Yes please

1 ben_chapleski 2015-05-27

Yes I want public mod logs.

1 TheOneAndTheOnly774 2015-05-27

Yes

1 llamasity 2015-05-27

YES

1 IHaveFiveOfBroats 2015-05-27

YES, I vote for public mod logs.

1 richard_m_lurkmoar2 2015-05-27

yes

1 Oop584 2015-05-27

yes, I agree

1 WorldAStage 2015-05-27

Yes

1 FranktheShank1 2015-05-27

Yes, i would like public mod logs

1 lastyegg 2015-05-27

Yes

1 Canadian_POG 2015-05-27

Aye, to the public with the logs!

1 Inyowindow 2015-05-27

Yes

1 SuperBlooper057 2015-05-27

Yes.

1 InternetPropagandist 2015-05-27

Yes on public mod logs.

1 MaliciousHippie 2015-05-27

Yes I want it

1 Findout246 2015-05-27

Yes.

1 Pavementt 2015-05-27

Yeah man

1 -TheWaddleWaddle- 2015-05-27

YES

1 Djr1423 2015-05-27

Yes

1 DeepHistory 2015-05-27

yes

1 FaultyFix 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

1 thoughtsandplots 2015-05-27

YES I want Public mod logs

1 Cgimarelli 2015-05-27

Yes! I want public mod logs!

1 omegawarrior3 2015-05-27

Yes

1 ingy2012 2015-05-27

Yes! I want public mods!

1 Apocalypse_Gladiator 2015-05-27

Yes.

1 aboutthree 2015-05-27

Yes to public logs

1 lordthat100188 2015-05-27

YES PLEASE BRUV.

1 supercede 2015-05-27

Yes.

1 44299 2015-05-27

Yes

1 DrenDran 2015-05-27

Yeah, obviously

1 -SPIRITUAL-GANGSTER- 2015-05-27

Yes, I would like public mod logs.

1 Big_Girl_Luver 2015-05-27

Yes.

1 eff-five 2015-05-27

Yes

1 saurongetti 2015-05-27

Yes, please.

1 SpaktakJones 2015-05-27

Why not?

1 a_shill 2015-05-27

YES please.

1 obnoxious_commenter 2015-05-27

Sure. Why not.

1 bloodlustshortcake 2015-05-27

Yes please

1 U96Q69 2015-05-27

YES, I want public mod logs!

1 Tentra 2015-05-27

Yes, I want to see them

1 RenegadeMinds 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

1 itsfreedomstupid 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

1 alseks 2015-05-27

Im on the fence about this but I think this would be a good idea still.

1 overredditid 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs

1 Gravybadger 2015-05-27

Yes please

1 Really_Dont_Know 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

1 reputable_opinion 2015-05-27

why not?

1 Akareyon 2015-05-27

Aye.

1 spasticbadger 2015-05-27

Yep, why not?

1 low_la 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

1 flashen 2015-05-27

YES I want public logs

1 holocauster-ride 2015-05-27

They should be made public.

1 snerrymunster 2015-05-27

yesh

1 JamesColesPardon 2015-05-27

Yes.

RIP your inbox bro

1 jtotheoan 2015-05-27

yes

1 nojoke72 2015-05-27

Yes!!!!! Public logs!!

1 ROCKISASELLOUT 2015-05-27

YES

1 anon108 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

1 laliluleno 2015-05-27

Yes.

1 Callampadero 2015-05-27

Yes, make transparency a priority, though it must eventually cause embarrassment to some. The feedback will be great! "Reddit's gone full transparency! Hoorah!"

1 know_comment 2015-05-27

do it.

but the SRD snoonet brigade is coming after you and AATA, and they know this sub would go down the shitter without you guys, so tread lightly.

1 Potss 2015-05-27

YES

Moderation should be as transparent and involve the community as much as possible, WHILE GUARDING AGAINST brigading and shills hijacking.

This could also be accomplished in a sister sub like /r/anarchy does it.

1 Flytape 2015-05-27

Hmm is this a new sub or did something change drastically? I seemed to recall that anarchy was taken over by "safe space" zealots... but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Am I thinking of a different sub?

1 Potss 2015-05-27

I was just referring to the fact that like some other subs they have a separate sub that is used as a mod log and for votes on bans and rule changes etc.

1 RoachesWinInTheEnd 2015-05-27

Yes for public logs

1 Prince781 2015-05-27

Yes

1 Fixin_IT 2015-05-27

YES, I want public mod logs.

1 fxtaken 2015-05-27

YES. Obviously, mr_dong the paid manipulator wants to keep them hidden.

1 mrdrstumpy 2015-05-27

That's gonna be a yes

1 Etchii 2015-05-27

yes

0 Dusty_Bottoms159 2015-05-27

Yes on public mod logs

-1 GMOmythsandtruths6 2015-05-27

Yes, it would be nice to know why /r/conspiracy is now deciding to capriciously censor comments. Without letting the poster know that it happened or why, I might add.

Makes the whole Reddit thing kind of worthless and pointless really. Especially with the shadow banning that happens for no reason and no explanation.

-4 HaltNWO 2015-05-27

There's no down side.

3 Flytape 2015-05-27

MODS ONLY

State your vote here in comment form, do you want public mod logs for /conspiracy?

12 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2015-05-27

Yep 100%, and I want to ensure that admin removals are also populated in the logs :)

6 Flytape 2015-05-27

I vote for public mod logs.

5 Ambiguously_Ironic 2015-05-27

Sure, +1.

4 axolotl_peyotl 2015-05-27

Absarootry.

3 Orangutan 2015-05-27

Yes. Anything to prevent more of this.

1 peterson2004 2015-05-27

Hey, how do private logs contribute to this? Reddit has been heading down hill and logs are private, so how will public logs make it any worse?

1 Orangutan 2015-05-27

I don't think public logs will make it any worse. I vote for public logs.

3 Suck_a_gerbils_dick 2015-05-27

Yes to mod logs all day

3 aka_biscuits 2015-05-27

Holy shit, mods are asking not to be banned for making a fucking poll. This place is fucked, jump to voat before you get banned for commenting.

2 spawnmower 2015-05-27

YES. Fix the voting situation. And you fix everything.

1 Flytape 2015-05-27

NO YOU DON'T WANT THEM!

EVERYONE ELSE

Comment here (to vote) No I don't want public mod logs!

3 oldguynewname 2015-05-27

I don't see how anyone can find anything within the mod logs important enough that they need to see them. Is the reddit mod logs important enough for your daily life you would give up that time to read them?

Reddit is becoming far to goddamn important to you if so. Go ahead and down vote me because you don't agree because you can't say this comment isn't important to the discussion.

Get outside people become active within your community and make a change for the better. Start a movement with others. See someone's face and speak with them about your views or concerns.

Don't think that just cause you get to see the mod logs you will have a realization. Or something else that isn't really important enough to influence anything.

I vote no keep that shit for you as mods to read and deal with all this site is for would be entertainment less I have to sift thru the better.

Keep up the good work in giving the others a voice thou /u/flytape

1 5arge 2015-05-27

Well said.

0 5arge 2015-05-27

No, I don't want them. Let the mods do their jobs without the added scrutiny. Transparency will not benefit anyone but the folks who troll this sub.

1 mr_dong 2015-05-27

I'm honestly on the fence with this one. The last thing we should be creating is more distraction from the nature of the sub, moderator transparency is a nice idea but the reality is that other ways of communicating are available to reddit users anyway.

I would suggest that if the crowd and other moderators want access to the logs then we should link to them in the sidebar. Personally i don't see it being helpful to the page to make a song and dance about moderator discussions week in week out. Besides, i don't want people stealing my pie recipes.

1 thefuckingtoe 2015-05-27

The last thing we should be creating is more distraction from the nature of the sub

You did notice who posted this right?

1 mr_dong 2015-05-27

Crowd decides, i don't think it's a particularly useful idea but if readers want it we will link to the mod talks in the sidebar.

-1 Mumberthrax 2015-05-27

If you'd like, you can also make modmail available publicly through /u/publicmodlogs, but I am not sure if I would recommend it.

edit: maybe i misunderstood what we were talking about. o_o

-2 thefuckingtoe 2015-05-27

i don't think it's a particularly useful idea

You did notice who posted this right?

3 mr_dong 2015-05-27

The main idea it just to show that the mods here have nothing to hide. As long as the idea remains background i really don't have a problem with it.

2 thefuckingtoe 2015-05-27

The main idea it just to show that the mods here have nothing to hide.

When axolotl answers who the fake David Chandler was he touted on the fake Richard Gage AMA, then I'll know they have nothing to hide.

When you or another mod shares the voting on reinstatement of flytape, the I'll know they have nothing to hide.

Below is a list of nefarious mod actions. Clear that mess up and we can have a conversation about mods not having anything to hide.

http://www.np.reddit.com/r/snew/comments/36wdrv/hi_snew_i_am_flytape_ask_me_anything/crht2h8

Edit: this is not meant as an attack. it is meant to clear the stagnant air around these parts.

1 axolotl_peyotl 2015-05-27

thefuckingtoe

6 thefuckingtoe 2015-05-27

http://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/36x2fx/alleged_op_of_the_qatarcoke_post_speaks_up_in/criejpi

Care to finish the conversation you ran away from a few days ago?

-1 axolotl_peyotl 2015-05-27

How many times do I need to answer your questions?

I don't believe the "official" version of 9/11. I don't know how the towers came down, I have no training/expertise in that field.

However, I'm inclined to believe that we've been lied to extensively regarding the events of that day.

The Richard Gage/David Chandler fake AMA was an unfortunate mistake, and one that certainly will never be made again.

Do I need to link that gif again?

3 thefuckingtoe 2015-05-27

How many times do I need to answer your questions?

You haven't answered my question yet. Who was the fake david chandler you tried to roll out in conjunction with the fake richard gage ama?

The best defenders of the OCT (official conspiracy theory) seem to be the mods of this sub.

I'm bringing others' dirty laundry out. Please help me wash it.

Do I need to link you defending a 911 debunker again?

Mods who don't know anything about 9.11 truth should not defend incorrect statements made by 911 debunkers.

You were involved in defending a 911 debunker that you rolled out as a real person, without verifying the person.

What actions did you take to verify the fake david chandler? Why didn't the fake david chandler show up?

Why haven't you answered a single question about who the fake david chandler was you were going to introduce?

Your silence says more than my repeatedly ignored questions.

Why is a mod of /r/911truth and /r/conspiracy so aggressive to those who seek answers?

You weren't qualified to host a richard gage ama. You've done more to hurt the 911 truth movement than to help it. You've chased away qualified professionals. You've made one post (numerology) about 911, and it's not flattering.

This isn't meant as an attack on mods. This is meant to clear the stagnant air.

0 axolotl_peyotl 2015-05-27

Why haven't you answered a single question about who the fake david chandler was you were going to introduce?

I've answered this. A lot.

The person(s) who faked the Gage AMA said that David Chandler, if he wasn't otherwise occupied, might be available to answer some questions as well.

The whole thing was staged, obviously, so it wasn't true. Obviously.

I'm baffled as to why you're belaboring the point.

You've made one post (numerology) about 911

I've submitted hundreds of things about 911.

The numerology post isn't even my own research, I just summarized a book I read that I thought was pretty neat.

Air sufficiently cleared?

-3 mr_dong 2015-05-27

When axolotl answers who the fake David Chandler was he touted on the fake Richard Gage AMA, then I'll know they have nothing to hide.

He made a mistake, his posting history is second to non regardless.

When you or another mod shares the voting on reinstatement of flytape, the I'll know they have nothing to hide.

Flytape is on a final warning and he understands it. The moderators wanted him back in and that was dealt with in house.

Below is a list of nefarious mod actions. Clear that mess up and we can have a conversation about mods not having anything to hide.

http://www.np.reddit.com/r/snew/comments/36wdrv/hi_snew_i_am_flytape_ask_me_anything/crht

This is exactly what we want to move away from. The page should be about conspiracy, not the moderators.

8 thefuckingtoe 2015-05-27

When axolotl answers who the fake David Chandler was he touted on the fake Richard Gage AMA, then I'll know they have nothing to hide.

He made a mistake

He won't address who the fake David Chandler was. I personally questioned him as to the merits of the fake Richard Gage and axolotl made one of the worst rebuts I've ever seen on this sub, as it concerns the truth movement.

Mods who don't know anything about 9.11 truth should not defend incorrect statements made by 911 debunkers.

Flytape is on a final warning

Cats don't have as many lives as 'the saudis did 911' flytape.

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/36vs66/why_mod_transparency_is_necessary_how_not_to/crhipo4

This is exactly what we want to move away from

I want to move away from people harming the 911 truth movement on reddit.com. I can't get one mod of /r/conspiracy to say that 3 towers were brought down by controlled demolition on 9.11.01. That's beyond strange.

Another mod in /r/conspiracy has little to no knowledge of 91101 but put on a fake AMA and tried to bring down 2 of the biggest advocates for 911 truth in one fake AMA.

http://www.np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/36x2fx/alleged_op_of_the_qatarcoke_post_speaks_up_in/criejpi

Again, let's clean house and open up an honest dialogue. Not meant as attack on mods of /r/conspiracy

0 JamesColesPardon 2015-05-27

I would suggest that if the crowd and other moderators want access to the logs then we should link to them in the sidebar. Personally i don't see it being helpful to the page to make a song and dance about moderator discussions week in week out. Besides, i don't want people stealing my pie recipes.

If they are anything like those potato recipes you're doing the site a service by keeping them a secret.

1 IntrinsicThought 2015-05-27

Yes yes yes!!! Public modlist for the people, its the only way

1 txstoploss 2015-05-27

Yes on public mod logs.

1 grandmacaesar 2015-05-27

Yes to public mod logs. And thanks for asking!

1 Br00ce 2015-05-27

Doesn't /r/uncensorship already show the logs? How would you show it?

(I voted yes for the record)

1 Flytape 2015-05-27

Through this

https://modlog.github.io/

1 FaultyFix 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

1 iamagod_____ 2015-05-27

Yea

1 AlwaysTurning 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs.

1 Crib_D 2015-05-27

YES

1 LordMandrake_ 2015-05-27

I, LordMandrake_, vote an obvious YES!!!!

1 Cgimarelli 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

1 make_mind_free2go 2015-05-27

yes on public mods

1 3_times_a_lady 2015-05-27

yes i want pubic log mods

1 macsenscam 2015-05-27

YES I WANT PUBLIC LOGS

1 Lunite 2015-05-27

Yes to public mod transparency

1 DecentralisedPower 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

1 zeropoint357 2015-05-27

Public logs would be a good start. Can't see why any mod wouldn't be comfortable having their actions visible.

1 mak3e 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

1 jasper1056 2015-05-27

YES, please admins. /r/ conspiracy needs public mod logs.... please do the RIGHT thing.

1 ismellwookies 2015-05-27

How is this even discussion? It's like a police officer having his buddies cover for him when they fuck up. What do they feel is privileged info that a peon like myself can't look at. If they had the choice, they wouldn't allow anything available for us to see.

1 _k_digi 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

publicly log your mod today !

1 RealByReel 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

1 SgtMythrandor 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

1 HTSMetal 2015-05-27

YES I want public mod logs!

1 Taylor219 2015-05-27

Yes

0 JoemeatballsSC2 2015-05-27