Always start with yourself. The masses are not ready or unwilling to accept the responsibility that lies ahead if they were to awaken at the present time. Many of their comforts/luxuries would perish under the new lifestyle and, to them, it is an unacceptable risk for an uncertain reward (at the moment, they have their bread and circuses).

Vote with your dollar. Switch your money to a credit union. Eat healthy (Vegetarian if at all possible, or the best you can do). Exercise. Share information with those who ask and are ready. Switch your furniture/beds/curtains from chemically-sprayed P.O.S. to natural alternatives (wool). Only buy clothing you know doesn't come from slave-labor (Prison or 3rd-world country) and are made of natural fibers. Continue reading (may I suggest Chris Hedges new Book "Wages of Rebellion, The Moral Imperative of Revolt" or even perhaps the new Fight Club 2 graphic novels). Take fewer bathes/showers that use shampoo/soap. Get a Go-Bag ready and a plan of escape (practice once a month - make it a camping trip). Grow your own food/join a community-garden that grows their own food. Shop locally. Learn basic carpentry, machinery (small motors) and other important skill-sets (take on a new project every few months). Collect rain-water. Pay attention to weather patterns (happens naturally if you garden) and if you live in a risky area, consider moving if possible (earthquakes, coastal floods, nuclear power plants, fracking, metropolitan areas etc). Continue researching the mechanisms of control to better understand your enemy.

Do you have any examples of clothing companies that don't use sweatshops, prison labor, etc.? I've never seen any stores around me that don't have clothing made in another country. I searched for a list and I saw some that listed companies and then others would say that they've purchased something and it was made in China, I know that a lot of big box companies have stuff from China, Bangladesh, Malaysia, and so on.

Depends where you live, but as the other poster said, it will cost more. A 9.99-15.99 plain shirt at Target/Kohls etc will be 30-60$ (wool, made in America) [one example: http://appalatch.com/store/products/category/all-products/].

I like to buy plain shirts (v-neck or tee's) and bleach art onto them. I also buy pants that are made from hemp. My jeans I used to buy wouldn't last 3-4 years of use (in the knees and bottom cuffs). The hemp pants seem like they will start to wear down after my grandchild begins to use it (atm my child is not even two ;p). This place has natural fiber clothing and shirts starting at 32$: https://www.pararev.com/

Just search for hemp/wool/cotton all natural made in America (or country you live in). Look at reviews off-site etc and determine what is best for you.

It's just bothersome when you go to a rally/protest and everyone has a BoAmerica/Chase etc card and their shirts have Made in Bangladesh/China on them. Be authentic.

Either you can learn to make clothing yourself, find some local stores that sell self-made clothing or search for some high quality clothing made in Europe or the US. It'll cost you way more than sweatshop products, but that's of course a given.

saved. this is an excellent comment, although I'd like to add that these are a lot to ask for of a single individual. most people would take a decade to learn all that while still working to support themselves. all I'm saying is one step at a time.

100%. I am still working on many of those myself, and it's been a decade-long journey so far. Trees planted first after we got some property. They're just now starting to yield dozens of surplus fruit we can't even handle (put them in the ground 5-7 years ago). I used to eat spam and velveta mac n cheese or ramen on-the-daily back in college (or Domino's delivery). It's been a evolutionary change of all my habits - now we cook nearly every meal, but we still eat meat/fish 2-3 days a week (still working on it). I'm also sure I'm missing tons of things that I will eventually learn (hopefully) to increase my experience on Earth as an authentic being.

The revolution will not be televised.

It will be streamed.

Its difficult when this community is so heavily targeted. There is a huge push in mainstream media to paint us as crazy by saying we believe in Lizard people. Thanks David Icke.

Are we all talk?

Are you going to fire the first shot in this resistance? Because right now, other than educating others there isn't a fucking thing anyone could do.

And frankly, I'll be very disappointed if it comes to violent resistance anyway -- because the predictable result of a bloody fight is that somebody else will rule over us. And the new rulers will be even worse.

It is my opinion that it will take empty bellies and unheated, unlit homes for people to be angry enough to throw caution to the wind and rise up. But they'll be rising in anger against MRAPs and killer drones in a total surveillance environment and the results will not be pretty.

TPTB have planned for all that.

And nobody has stolen any plans for the death star.

It's a trap.

And the new rulers will be even worse.

Might as well not even try people. Go home. You are permafucked losers. The end.

Or perhaps find a way to correct things in a way that doesn't leave a space for an even more tyrannical regime?

Might as well not even try people.

Or you know, invest the even greater effort required to actually improve things.

i'm really tired of all the people saying that our foe is too powerful and large to be defeated.

Blame Michael Aquino and 7th Psychological Warfare Division.

"Win with Words"....

Prove them wrong

See, that's the thing about overthrowing governments: even if you succeed, they're usually replaced by an even greater evil.

Any power can be defeated. But sometimes, discretion is the better part of valor.

Fearmonger

How eloquent!

Look, if you have no coherent plan for what to do after a successful overthrow -- then somebody needs to impart a healthy fear. Because leaving a power vacuum is sheer lunacy.

Source: Iraq.

Open source online democracy. There, solved. Now get revolting.

Open source online democracy. There, solved.

Ok. Now we have some vaporware.

It's not solved though until we have fully-tested, peer-reviewed software. And we still have to figure out how to grant access to the poorest people who don't have internet access or in many cases, even a smartphone or computer.

But I like the cut of your jib.

Now get revolting.

Not till the software is in place and robust in the face of a government that is currently able to turn off the internet and seize public roadways, public utilities, etc.

Fine, I got a little excited.

I would like the message to get out though. The reddit community(including our fallen brothers who jumped to voat) to me is just the teething stages of our democracy. When this place actually fires, the amount of good will and intelligence on display is one of the few things that keeps me going with the idea.

Everyone in the real world is all too quick to remind me that 'everyone else is too dumb' and only their way/the way of a super smart guy in charge is the way out of our current mess. Bullshit. Smartest guy in the room, is the room or whatever.

It would be very interesting to me for some very small town to switch to something akin to an on-line direct republic. Full transparency. No representatives voting on behalf of anyone. One citizen, one vote.

Perhaps collectively, we could just buy a town.

Alex Jones says we're it, but only when we're listening to his radio program.

there are more petitions to sign than anyone can imagine, if space allows, starting a community garden is an idea (if it won't be considered illegal),

stop: being a "constant" consumer, wasting food/water.

Unplug as much as possible, This will mean different things for different people.

When the time comes, do what you can from where you are.

Don't follow leaders. Make them herd us like cats. Did you ever try to herd cats?

They will fight us with waveforms as much as with guns, sound and light in different firms.

If you can, be the one who has the ability to detect and share the presence of approaching wave forms such as with thermal imaging tools and what ever else fits.

They can see you in the dark, return the favor.

The killbots are coming and when they arrive and they no longer have to worry about recruitment or orders being refused we are all fucked.

Aint nothing can be done besided accepting we are a fascist nation and ruled by Jewish masters and continue on with ur life.

We can educate ourselves to better communicate within a group setting or on a public forum.

and we can start by avoiding self-marginalizing approaches like the previous commenter. the real problem isn't something with a name any of us know, and those other blame-groups just keep the circle-jerk spinning. Any "group" you are prepared to point a finger at is a smokescreen and a killword.

This is a war that can't be won by the people. If we try to fight back either peacefully or even violently then they will silence us, and have armed forces at the snap of a finger, then take away more of our freedoms. Now if every military, police officer decided to quit their 'jobs', and every citizen quit theres and we all stopped being slaves to the system, we might have a chance.

This is what I have tried to tell people before, only I said it in terms of having to kill/battle the military officials and police officers because I believe they are too brainwashed to lay down arms and turn around. The military and police force are the means by which we are being held back from significant forward progress towards actual, meaningful change.

There is one thing. Gaining knowledge - power. The Concept of Social Security provides with enough of it. Some help. The amount of the material is immense but sadly the translated part is still small.

Stockholm Syndrome

No one is going to go outside and do anything until it's right in front of their face and affecting them personally. That is the natural outcome. Many people are apathetic and don't care about the government or are not informed. Violence won't work because of the militarization of the police force and DHS. I think we should use our technology and creativity to usurp the powers that be. Simple logic can easily break them down and conveying messages of resistance in a commercialized way can increase awareness of the masses.

Yeah, Bostonians really stood up to the gestapo 2 years ago.

Personally i write papers on different forms of government and economy, and then debate the merits of them. I feel that i have swayed a lot of my close acquaintances to the open minded reasoning that it takes to see beyond our current world, to the world of tomorrow. I love everyone, and everyone is unique in their own way, most just cant show it. But honestly, some people are dumb as shit. I feel like my big contribution though can be to help them think for themselves, and to do alot of the thinking that i am good at for them, so they can focus on doing their own good :)

Romans 13:1-7 states, “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”

This passage makes it abundantly clear that we are to obey the government God places over us. God created government to establish order, punish evil, and promote justice (Genesis 9:6; 1 Corinthians 14:33; Romans 12:8). We are to obey the government in everything—paying taxes, obeying rules and laws, and showing respect. If we do not, we are ultimately showing disrespect towards God, for He is the One who placed that government over us. When the apostle Paul wrote to the Romans, he was under the government of Rome during the reign of Nero, perhaps the most evil of all the Roman emperors. Paul still recognized the Roman government’s rule over him. How can we do any less?

The next question is “Is there a time when we should intentionally disobey the laws of the land?” The answer to that question may be found in Acts 5:27-29, “Having brought the apostles, they made them appear before the Sanhedrin to be questioned by the high priest. 'We gave you strict orders not to teach in this Name,' he said. 'Yet you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and are determined to make us guilty of this man's blood.' Peter and the other apostles replied: ‘We must obey God rather than men!'“ From this, it is clear that as long as the law of the land does not contradict the law of God, we are bound to obey the law of the land. As soon as the law of the land contradicts God's command, we are to disobey the law of the land and obey God's law. However, even in that instance, we are to accept the government’s authority over us. This is demonstrated by the fact that Peter and John did not protest being flogged, but instead rejoiced that they suffered for obeying God (Acts 5:40-42).

Not fighting =/= Support

That's some Bush-logic "If you're not with us, you're against us."

Of course we shouldn't support this, but we have to live with it. No, we should try to eat healthy food (since we should keep our body healthy & clean as also said in the Bible).
No, we should not support them abusing the Earth and destroying it. We shouldn't be doing it, but that doesn't stop others from doing so.
As the Bible says, everything will be resolved soon and the Earth will be cleansed of this evil and it'll be completely restored.

Let me just tell you, I totally do not support government, but it's the way we have to live.

It is not our job to cleanse Earth ourselves, as Jesus will do that.
Our job is to serve God and wait until that day comes.

I'm a Christian and I believe God helps those who help themselves. I don't think sitting around waiting for Jesus is the way to go. If I am proven wrong, I hope the Good Lord will forgive me.

It reminds me of the story of the guy who lived in the suburbs when there was a horrible flood. The waters are rising, rising.

A neighbor comes by in a rowboat, offers to help the homeowner escape. Homeowner says "No thanks; Jesus is going to save me."

Later, the local Sheriff comes by in a larger powerboat. Homeowner, again, says "No thanks; Jesus is going to save me."

After another day, flood waters still rising, a rescue helicopter is sent to get the guy. He still declines: "No thanks; Jesus is going to save me."

You can guess what happens: Flood waters keep rising and the stubborn man drowns. When he gets to heaven and meets God, he says, "Great to be in heaven, but what the heck happened down there? I kept waiting for you to help me!"

And God says, "What are you talking about? I sent your neighbor, the Sheriff and finally a helicopter to save you!"

God works in mysterious ways. We are his vessels. The body of Christ should not be sitting around waiting for the Messiah. He'll show when he shows, and if he's not grateful for my efforts to push back for Good and Justice in his name, I will swiftly drop to my knees and beg for his immeasurable forgiveness.

Молитесь Богу но держать гребля на берег (Pray to God, but keep rowing to shore) -- Russian Proverb

Haha, that's a very good one. I'll have to remember that.

This argument is ridiculous and I hear it every time, most often from fedora wearing atheists.

Yes, this is what I believe and feel.
I could ask you the same "Are these conspiracy theories of yours what you truly believe, or have you been conditioned to?".

This statement of yours implies every religious person is just brainwashed from birth. Makes me quite sick.

Oh no sorry for taking it that way! Browsing on reddit it just sometimes feels like most people are after you the whole time, haha.

Well, I feel that it is true. When reading the Bible, so many things are just eye-openers and you can really see the parallels of the current world we live in.
My parents are Christian, so yes, I did grow up with it. I was never forced to go to meetings though - I had the choice of going or not going. These beliefs weren't forced on me and every time I had a clear choice, my parents stressed this.

Absolutely not.

When talking about "evil" things in the Bible, most if not all of the arguments stem from the "evil" Mosaic law where stoning was allowed. Well, the Mosaic law was removed by Jesus and nothing in it should be done today for we aren't under the law anymore. Nonetheless its inclusion in the Bible is important because it's the history of God and his laws do reflect his views and opinions on certain things. (Just wanted to clear that up ;D)

But, no, there's really nothing in the Bible I don't agree with.

Yeah, no problem. If you've got any more questions you can just PM me anytime.

you are in the wrong game if you expect god to swoop down and stop fascists.

You're right. He's not only stopping fascists.

He's stopping all evil.

God created government to establish order, punish evil, and promote justice

So you're saying God condones torture? Good to know.

This along so many other assumptions are merely that; assumptions based on lies and prejudice.
I assume you have never read a single chapter of the Bible, otherwise you would surely understand this.

If you want to argue about things, please, get yourself informed about the topic before you go on and spew nonsense. If I want to make an argument about climate or GMO or whatever, I don't just say things I "think" that aren't true.

Actually, I'm a former Southern Baptist minister.

Whoops. Seems like I am one of those baseless assumption makers this time.

This passage makes it abundantly clear that we are to obey the government God places over us.

This doesn't even make any sense. God doesn't place governments over us, we elect governments ourselves. If we can pick them during elections, we can also depose them with revolutions when they no longer serve our interests.

And you think this isn't all planned?

You realize a one world government and destruction of organized religion is prophesied in the Bible? What do you think of how he'd reach that?

Regardless of if you believe in the Bible or not, it does make sense.

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Yep, they've never read even a single chapter, most easily deducted from how they think the Bible prophesies an "apocalypse", "end of mankind" or whatever junk. Totally not true. The end of the Great Tribulation will be a glorious day indeed.

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Just imagine hearing the trumpets.. man. Language can't express the joy.

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Yep, not many will see it. Like 1. Thes. 5:2 says "for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night".

We are very close to the Great Tribulation indeed. We can see all the signs of the UN coming more and more together in a more and more immoral and godless society and religion being mocked and ridiculed, leading to the soon destruction of it.

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Oh yes. Soon Jesus will be seperating the good harvest from the weed.

But then again, just knowing about this and knowing Jesus won't bring you very far, as Matthew 7: 22, 23 say "22"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' 23"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'"

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Thanks. Stay strong as well and persist in this wicked time!

"But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." (Matthew 7:14)

I wouldn't lay this at the feet of the UN. The core evil in the world does not stem from the UN.

But what you say about the mockery of religion rings very true. And in many cases, religions have done themselves no favors and been corrupted from within, just like our government.

Things are indeed advancing quickly, but I am not convinced they cannot be slowed or put off for another generation or two.

Oh no, the core evil does not stem from the UN, it's simply a tool to make things happen.

Oh yes. Just look at the Vatican, a.k.a. Corruption HQ. Of course they're part of the false prophets.
Yeah, the mockery is funny. When I watched that video of Dawkins telling his "followers" (let's be honest here: atheism of today is for many almost like a religion itself) to mock and ridicule religious people, I just had to laugh. I mean, that's exactly what's written in the Bible. They're being steered and don't even know it.

Yes, things are advancing very quickly. But then again, we do not know when the time has come. Not even Jesus knows it. Only God.
We can't slow down or put it off though. We can't do anything against God's will, he controls the direction the world is going to be going and when. If there is a big revolution which stops the world government, that would also have been part of the plan - we just don't know, and therefore, there's little we can do other than wait.

Old Testament & New Testament. Are you Jewish & Christian ?

The God in those stories seem to change attitudes towards the little creations made in his image.

I am Christian, but we do respect the Hebrew and Aramaic scriptures.

The authorities that exist have been established by God.

This makes lasers shoot out of my eyes. Let's be clear as to the statement I'm attempting to make here:

FUCK THAT.

They claim that God said that shit. The truth to the right of that claim comes from the lips of a man holding a blade. The same claim has been made for generations and rests on this fucking ridiculous concept of "a divine right to rule". Prove it. The crown's "divine right" is nothing more than a bullshit pretext for a monopoly on violence. Any Religion that exists with any kind of "ours is the only way" sentiment anywhere in it's holy text only serves the greater purpose of keeping humanity divided and enslaved.

Any person or group claiming dominion on my person is committing an immoral act, because God made me sovereign over myself when I was given free will. This is your unalienable right.

8/10 troll effort.

Sure, easy to dismiss an honest opinion as "trolling".

And you think this isn't all planned?

You realize a one world government and destruction of organized religion is prophesied in the Bible? What do you think of how he'd reach that?

Regardless of if you believe in the Bible or not, it does make sense.

Sure, easy to dismiss an honest opinion as "trolling".

I am Christian, but we do respect the Hebrew and Aramaic scriptures.