Fuck the TPP, we will not comply. Mass non compliance is the answer!
334 2015-06-24 by [deleted]
You cannot censor the internet. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.
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85 no1113 2015-06-24
Correct. Mass noncompliance is indeed the answer.
27 compliancekid78 2015-06-24
If only I had more than this single upvote.
Non-compliance is the key that unlocks freedom.
18 no1113 2015-06-24
Agreed. We must make sure and not put the cart before the horse, however, my good man. While noncompliance may indeed be the key to unlock freedom, it seems to me that the thing itself that leads to mass noncompliance starts with all of us as a species putting aside our heavily indoctrinated racism and all our brain washed prejudices, all come together as the ONE people that we indeed truly are, and all work together as one.
Without our coming together as one and seeing each and everyone of us - black, white, indigenous, Asian, male, female, trans, etc, etc - as ONE UNITED FAMILY FIRST, it seems we will not be able to accomplish the mass noncompliance needed in order to unlock the freedom we're talking about here in the first place.
11 compliancekid78 2015-06-24
I think being loving and peaceful people will help with that.
I'm super lucky that most people are super chill with me. I try to spread that around as much as is possible. I hear that your energy has an effect four people out (Malcolm Gladwell said that - he's a douche, but I like his story so I'll go with it). If you think of spreading your energy out four people deep you have a lot of power in this world. Local power, but power non the less. The power of positivity.
Stay strong my brother.
Inroads are being carved.
7 no1113 2015-06-24
Oh absolutely. Agreed. Having a sharp, critically-thinking mind, I feel, also helps.
Maybe it might not be so much luck as much as it might be that you might simply attract the kind of energy you tend to put out. That’s a possibility too. :)
Well there you go. As such, I don’t think you’re “lucky” at all. You’d be lucky that most people were super chill with you yet you were an asshole. You don’t seem to be that though, so yeah…You tend to attract what you put out to.
Gladwell or no Gladwell, that seems a decent enough postulation.
Agreed. Well-said. I’d say spread your energy out globally though. Just be a beacon of light as much as you possibly can. Doesn’t mean you have to be a “smily, shiny, happy person!” 24/7. Of course not. Just try to be nice and honorable to people - even if you have a very serious look on your face.
Thank you, brother.
Namaste,
5 Findout246 2015-06-24
Michael Ruppert and William Cooper would strongly agree with you!
5 compliancekid78 2015-06-24
Bill Cooper always gets an upvote.
2 cannibaloxfords 2015-06-24
Behold A Pale Horse set it all off for me in high school. I started questioning all the teachers and told all the military recruiters to fuck off
1 no1113 2015-06-24
Good for you, sir (no sarcasm).
1 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
The power of our thoughts and emotions are everything. They have a direct effect on the very structure of the universe. Keep your vibrations of love and positivity brother and you're resonating that frequency and changing the world wherever you go.
2 compliancekid78 2015-06-24
It sounds ridiculous and hippie-dippie, but you're right.
I cultivate a sense of optimism with purpose.
It makes my life better and the lives of those around me better.
11 blacy0520 2015-06-24
It when the government disguises false compliance as a good choice when shit starts going downhill.
Nazi Germany.
I will not comply with TPP and to boot, fuck this obvious Corporatocracy which is the United States of America.
The people should not, and hopefully will not, let this be the darkest moment in our nation's history.
5 denmaur 2015-06-24
How can we perform non-compliance when we don't even know what's in it?
1 [deleted] 2015-06-24
lest we forget Coca-Cola and Standard Oil (look up the Hitler relations)
2 Might_be_jesus 2015-06-24
Except everyone is kept juuuuust comfortable enough to cultivate apathy over important things.. The ensuing boredom then spawns obsessions over trivial bullshit.
The frogs have almost come to a boil
1 ercaerca 2015-06-24
or it could possibly be the key to opening your cell door before the officer of the state "department of corrections" (can you ever imagine a more orwellian term to label a group of turnkeys and jailers / slavers?)
because that is what will happen for some of the non-compliers.
I just hope it's not retroactively effective because that will basically destroy everyone's lives and that would cause serious backlash. Everyone watches TV on the internet, almost everyone in the younger generations.
I just don't think it's going to be possible for them to enforce this because as soon as the new generation comes into power, we will just be like "are you guys kidding me with your bullshit? that's ridiculous fuck off".
2 compliancekid78 2015-06-24
Living free involves risk.
I will not acquiesce to enslavement.
This displeases the self-appointed rulers and I know it.
If they don't like it they can go cry in their mansions.
1 ercaerca 2015-06-24
yeah, that, or send their police to get you so you can go cry in your jail cell while wailing about yer freedums and getting maced or tazed for your trouble by your fellow murcans
2 compliancekid78 2015-06-24
It'll be nice when people start defending themselves against violent attacks.
Mere costumes do not lend legitimacy to violence incidentally.
2 boxingnun 2015-06-24
Amen my friend!
1 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
We are everything there ever was, is and ever will be. Only we experience ourselves subjectively one expression at a time. We are all different expressions of the same one consciousness so what is there to fear? Nothing.
1 ercaerca 2015-06-24
ok david icke
8 jabelone 2015-06-24
The people don't know their true power. Imgur
2 no1113 2015-06-24
This is 100% correct. We've been made to forget it. Heck, many of us have been made to never know it even existed in the first place.
2 JOEDIESE 2015-06-24
A little active military exercise in the southern US states seems to be geared towards dealing with exactly that: non-compliance of citizens.
1 no1113 2015-06-24
Interesting. I don't put it past the state to gun down its own citizens one bit. Adamantine solidarity amongst the citizenry is, therefore, required if any chance is to be had to combat such resistance.
I would not, unfortunately, say that we have that solidarity as a citizenry, however. I'm also not 100% sure though that every member of the military would go along with orders to shoot and kill members of the very country they supposedly swore to protect.
2 m0q 2015-06-24
we need to let the mass know what these fuckers are doing!
1 no1113 2015-06-24
Correct. Spreading awareness is at least a start.
1 StopThrottle 2015-06-24
Lol noncompliance.. At this point its starting to look like we need to take it a little farther.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
2 denmaur 2015-06-24
It would be fun to watch Hillary dodge some more bullets.
1 paul_the_clown 2015-06-24
Heyyyoooo!
2 opheliaks 2015-06-24
Their should be mass rioting. WHERE THE FUCK IS EVERYONE
4 no1113 2015-06-24
Negative. Rioting is most definitely NOT the answer. Rioting is the dumb, unthinking, moronic idiot's response. It is the stupid dog's response.
What there should be is a mass togetherness that steps forward and manifests itself as (again) noncompliance.
You take all the idiots that would potentially riot and, instead, band them all together and cause them to peacefully A) not take part in the shitty system as it stands, while B) absolutely help support, house, and feed each other while they're being noncompliant with that shitty system, and you will have a movement and make a statement that the system will have a MUCH bigger problem with than a bunch of idiot dogs running down the street looking like morons.
Rioting solves exactly zero.
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1 no1113 2015-06-24
And violence does have a place. I don’t disagree with that and there is nothing that I said that even implies otherwise. I am a huge second amendment advocate and strongly feel that EVERYONE should be armed.
This has exactly nothing to do with advocating “rioting”, however, which was the original point I was talking about. Far different.
I think both MLK and MX are significant and important, but I personally side with MX more than MLK.
Incorrect, sir. If a million people peacefully decide to NOT go to work, NOT pay their taxes, NOT take part in any military exercises, NOT be TPTB “police man” guard dogs, and everyone decided to instead support, house, cloth, and feed each other, then TPTB will definitely have a HUGE problem with that and they will most definitely not see that as “preferable because they don’t have to do anything.”
Their entire system of control and manipulation would come absolutely crashing down if more and more people caught on to that type of peaceful noncompliance and acted accordingly.
And regardless of whether that can be done with or without violence, it MOST DEFINITELY will never ever need or require any sort of stupid “rioting” in order to accomplish - like ophellaks above advocated.
Incorrect. There should definitely be a means by which the masses can individually and collectively protect themselves, but don’t think for a second that the choices are only “Gandhi-like peace” or “all out, violent war!”. Not even close. There are many means of nonviolently protesting, and if one way doesn’t work, another way can be utilized before feeling like one has to resort to any sort of armed conflict.
One should never ever be afraid to engage in armed conflict, but one should also never rush headlong into such a thing if it can be avoided.
Again, incorrect. If a motherfucking SHIT TON of you/us confront TPTB and say “Yo, we are going to stop supporting this system like…right now this very moment.” and this group happens to be, say, a billion people that are all working together peacefully?
Sheeit, son. You better believe TPTB will have a real difficult time handling that.
Whose going to police the police if the police are on the side of the citizens? What military is going to shoot down peaceful protestors if the troops are on the side of the citizens themselves?
Realize that my ultimate point has nothing to do with trying to advocate “ONLY PEACE AND THAT’S IT! NO OTHER WAY!!” No. I’m totally okay with armed conflict if it’s needed.
Understand that what I’m advising against is RIOTING. That was my initial point, and it still very much stands.
Violence, if absolutely necessary, has to take place, and if a people are defending themselves, is what it is. I’m not advising against that. Rioting, on the other hand? Yeah, that’s fucking stupid, yo. That’s for fucking dumb asses and will never ever solve a thing.
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1 no1113 2015-06-24
1) Not really.
2) What does that have to do with the point I'm making? What does this have to do with the fact that I'm not nor was I ever talking about the advocating of rioting?
...You really seem to be continuing to try to talk about something that is actually ENTIRELY different than what the real point here is. If you want to continue to do that, then...okay, I guess. I'm not quite sure what you're meaning in this response, but it - again - does nothing to the fact that it's only rioting that I'm talking about going against.
Do with that what you will.
1 [deleted] 2015-06-24
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1 no1113 2015-06-24
If by "something" you mean "noncompliance", then I'm already doing that to an extent in how I live my very life, so I don't think it applies there. If you mean "take up arms", I wouldn't say I'm unwilling to do that either. If you mean "riot", then yeah. I totally wouldn't be willing to do that, but that's only because, again, rioting is stupid and will not actually work.
Within the context of what would actually work, I'm willing to do a lot.
ftfy, but yeah. I would totally agree with this statement.
None of it applies to me, however, so I yet again am not sure what the point you're trying to get at here is, as there is nothing I have said that applies to any attempted rebuttal you have made.
0 Alacritous 2015-06-24
Rioting isn't just running around stealing from shops.
1 no1113 2015-06-24
So? And? It involves a lot of shit that, by definition, is pretty dumb and often illegal.
Are you literally sitting here actually trying to defend rioting?
Seriously?
What the fuck?
Wow...
0 Alacritous 2015-06-24
It doesn't necessarily mean what you think it means. An armed mob facing off against police lines trying to stop them from getting to food would be a riot.
1 no1113 2015-06-24
It doesn't mean what you think it means.
Regardless, this conversation was over various responses ago, so I'm done. Have the last word if you want. I'm out.
0 Alacritous 2015-06-24
Alright, I will.
0 opheliaks 2015-06-24
Rather then insulting me you should take a glimpse into reality.
The masses aren't going to wake up, you can ship off entire races of people to camps and those left behind will think " at least its not me" till its them.
We've literally been taking it up the ass since 1913. That's 100 years of bred in compliance. Corporations are openly and publicly making a move to override the rights of all constitutions and who cares? There's a list of the companies involved and look around, there's no peaceful protest, there's no boycot, there is nothing.
1989, protests in Beijing
that's what needs to happen. A couple thousand innocent persons need to make a spectacle. One that cannot be ignored. One that'll force the puppeteers back and off while those remaining revamp this ridiculousness system we've prescribed too.
3 no1113 2015-06-24
The fact that you took what I said as personally referring to you is greatly indicative of where your mindset is at.
A reality showing that riots exist and take place does absolutely nothing to the fact that they are, again, the methodology of the stupid, unthinking masses, and they solve exactly nothing, help exactly nothing, propel exactly no movement forward, and actually help keep TPTB in power because the riots do nothing but allow the dumb, unthinking, “unwashed masses” to let off some steam before things go right back to the same old status quo that existed before the dumb rioting occurred in the first place.
History has shown this over and over again.
I wouldn’t say that this doesn’t in fact seem to be how things are. However, the point I’m making is that rioting isn’t going to help curb this.
Possibly long before even that, but yes. At least since then.
Understood and agreed.
I do. You do. Others do.
Exactly. Why? A good reason for that is because we’re scared and we don’t trust that we will be supported by our fellow brothers and sisters if we try to stand up. That’s the main reason why.
Rioting isn’t going to help this, however.
That was not a riot, however. Not by far. That was a mass, official demonstration - an official protest. Look it up. Again, rioting is not the answer.
I would not disagree with that.
Correct and agreed.
Goddammit I’m agreeing with you! The point and fact of the matter, however, is that RIOTING is not what’s going to help this to happen! It’s not “rioting” that will do it! It’s intelligent, concerted, mass noncompliance that is done TOGETHER by the protesting group.
We are not in disagreement in much of anything aside from your thinking that any sort of dumb “rioting” should take place. Again, fuck that, sir. Fuck that. We need to do more and do better if we have any chance or hope of really making anything work.
3 cannibaloxfords 2015-06-24
Its not going to be mass rioting. Just a systematic and slow taking out of key figures at the top by well financed and highly trained mercenary types. At least how I envision it
1 no1113 2015-06-24
I would not disagree with that. There needs to be a LOT more than simple noncompliance. Noncompliance is a start, however.
Well, although we shouldn't be unwilling to fight and die for our liberty - collectively and individually - it is not always entirely necessary. As such, one shouldn't necessarily rush headlong into the arms of oblivion and self-annihilation for the sake of freedom if one doesn't entirely have to.
1 boxingnun 2015-06-24
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." -Declaration of Independence
19 [deleted] 2015-06-24
At some point, we all have to stop paying taxes.
11 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
Exactly, in vast quantities the system could not cope.
17 [deleted] 2015-06-24
There's a whole generation of student debt that can't be paid off too. Everyone needs to stop paying that shit as well.
4 ThatPoopingMane 2015-06-24
Agreed. This needs to happen now.
8 sunnyd69 2015-06-24
Not to sound like a dick. How do I stop paying taxes? I work for a company that has payroll and taxes are taken out, if they are not it is recorded. No(most) company will pay cash. I'd love to avoid taxes, especially payroll taxes.
7 falseramona 2015-06-24
Don't work for a company.
2 iamagod_____ 2015-06-24
As this system fails more and more each day, this becomes a necessity.
3 your-nuts-sir 2015-06-24
Learn to live without / with minimal cash.
1 fxtaken 2015-06-24
Get paid as a consultant, not an employee. There are tax and health care advantages that benefit employers in this situation, most businesses will support your switch. After you're getting paid as a consultant, then just don't pay your taxes.
1 onedialectic 2015-06-24
They will just put you in jail.
6 miss_sogony 2015-06-24
good luck with that
1 your-nuts-sir 2015-06-24
Not to worry.
The TPP allows for non-compliant countries to be policed by foreign member country's police / military / courts.
6 denmaur 2015-06-24
It's clearer everyday why Obama feels such urgency to restrict our ownership of guns.
2 [deleted] 2015-06-24
It's not exactly a "new" thing...
2 escapefromdigg 2015-06-24
Too bad for most people they are taken right out of their paycheques. Hard to get around that unless people start paying each other in BTC.
1 HaltNWO 2015-06-24
Nice try, IRS.
12 LordMandrake_ 2015-06-24
There are far more of us than there are of them.
We HAVE to do this.
It is our destiny as human beings to break away from the chains that bind us. Too long have we been groping in the dark.
We know what we must do.
And if we don't start somewhere, it won't happen.
We have to save our selves from this system. We cannot rely on a god or aliens or whatever.
This is our planet. Let's take it back together.
2 thinkB4Uact 2015-06-24
Well, what do we do? First? Second? Third?
I propose, we organize, communicate, form consensus on ideas, form goals, and then take actions. We need to elaborate on each of these points in order to be successful.
People that shrink from controversy don't get to dictate the policy or process. In other words, if our members choose not to acknowledge empirical reality in their discussion, after it is presented to them and they have had time to digest it, we should not feel obligated to take them seriously and slow down the process. This shall not become a situation where the slackers prevent us from forming consensus. We can include everyone that wants to participate, but we should not allow people to stop the process by continually objecting and at the same time being wishy washy about what they are trying to say. We can't just say, "make a better world," and then put that task onto others. This is about us taking all of THAT responsibility. We shall ask, how, repeatedly, discuss it, rectify disagreements with more discussion, and then form a consensus around policy. We just give our power away to others by demanding things without caring about how they are done. We'd sound like impotent children crying to daddy to buy them sugary crap at the grocery store.
2 C_33 2015-06-24
OK. Let's do it. Where do we start? Who's the enemy exactly?
2 Free__Will 2015-06-24
Organizing strikes would be where I'd start. In fact I wrote to my union in the UK today advocating this.
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2 Free__Will 2015-06-24
I'm not talking about long term strikes, just regular (perhaps monthly) well organised, multi-industry national strikes which would go on until the TIPP is dropped from the political agenda. Nobody needs to lose their minds (or houses) from not working!
2 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
I value your input, you're not alone brother.
6 falseramona 2015-06-24
Opt out of the rigged system as much as you can. Be the change you want to see. Don't like big business? Support local small business. Don't like Internet censorship? Get off of it and talk directly to people in your community. Don't like banks? Don't use them. Don't like money? Don't use it.
6 OWNtheNWO 2015-06-24
Everyone download Aether is a p2p usenet version of reddit.
3 A_600lb_Tunafish 2015-06-24
We ain't gonna do shit lmao.
Except take it up the ass of course.
22 no1113 2015-06-24
I'd love for you to be incorrect, but it would seem you may not be.
You shouldn't be so seemingly proud of the possibility of being correct about this, however ("lmao" over this? Really?), as it will have even worse effects on you, me, and the rest of the human race than is already the case without it.
4 A_600lb_Tunafish 2015-06-24
We have no mechanism to fight back. We gain an inch they take a mile. Things always, always, always get worse.
Stand on a corner and ask random people what they think about the TPP and they'll have no clue what you're even fucking talking about.
We the people have no fight in us. We just don't fucking care.
8 no1113 2015-06-24
We have shit tons of mechanisms to fight back. We just don't have the will power to do what is necessary at this point. Those are two different things.
Just because we are horses that aren't willing to drink it doesn't mean the that water's not right in front our noses.
That's because we're not gaining the inches that we need to.
It would certainly seem that way. Looks can be deceiving, however.
I wouldn't doubt this.
It would seem a great deal has been taken away. I wouldn't disagree with this.
We've been made not to to a large extent. We've allowed ourselves to be made not to.
None of this is anything to feel happy about or "laugh out loud" about, however - not even in jest.
8 4to6 2015-06-24
We need a leader. Ideally, we need a set of leaders all working together to plan and run the insurrection. A single leader is vulnerable, but a school of leaders in various fields would be hard to discredit or murder.
6 compliancekid78 2015-06-24
Why do you need a leader?
It's your decision to comply or not comply.
No one can live your life for you.
Not even a dear leader.
1 MaryLS 2015-06-24
You can do this individually, but it won't have much of an impact. Plus, many people are not in a position to stop using banks, etc. I think role models would be helpful.
2 iamagod_____ 2015-06-24
You tell that raindrop how meaningless his actions are as the flood washes over
1 [deleted] 2015-06-24
Apparently having a useful opinion on the matter is downvote central...
0 [deleted] 2015-06-24
Jesse Ventura, who literally won a case against Hollywood (a movie) to discredit him. Eh, maybe he'll get like 2% the vote, slightly ahead of Gary Johnson, who is also legit and the media ignores.
1 Cgimarelli 2015-06-24
Here is a good article to take a look at if you get a chance. It touches on some of the themes being mentioned here and throughout the post: The Three Stages of a Revolution
5 no1113 2015-06-24
We ourselves need to each of us actually BE the leader we wish to follow. No sooner do you appoint some stand alone "leader" for some cause than that cause is super easy to destroy and dismantle by simply assassinating that supposed "leader". If everyone follows a particular principle, however, then it simply matters not who tries to do what to undermine the movement or cause because EVERYONE has the ability to stand alone in the responsibility needed to move forward and succeed.
It is in part the "leader/follower" paradigm that has enslaved this society and caused so much trouble in the first place. It is this leader/follower mentality that has made our entire society filled with sheep that complain, complain, complain in websites like we're presently on yet are unwilling to do what's necessary to stand up and take charge.
And why is that? It's because we are foolishly trapped in this mindset that is "waiting for a leader".
Agreed. Ideally, in a group of, say, 10 million insurgents, we need a set of 10 million leaders - all of which are powerful enough to have a common goal and powerful enough to know when to work together as one toward a common objective.
True leaders can all come together and do this.
Agreed. That school of leaders, however, needs to be each member of the entire group.
Here's a question for you, however, and I really would like you to answer this:
How willing would you be to follow a true, honorable, intelligent leader that also just so happened be black?
You have a penchant for not responding to many posts, but I would like, if nothing else, for you to answer this one question posted here.
EDIT: My response was posted over 8 hours ago, and, as of this here EDIT, you have posted about another twelve responses in other boards, and your very last message was posted but a mere 24 minutes ago. This lets me know that you not only saw and read this here response to you, but have decided to not respond to the question I asked you. Because of this, I will once again make mention of the fact that even though some of the things you say may seem to be valid when looked at superficially, the fact of the matter is that - as per your extensive post history and the fact that this is the second or third account you've made after your other accounts were banned for repeated and continued racism - you are a 100% "white supremacist" degenerate. The real meaning of your comments, therefore, truly make them hardly worth the time it takes to read. You are singularly self-defeating in posts like the one you made here because, while you might sound like a person with a normal head on their shoulders if someone didn't know any better (talking about "the need for strong leaders", etc) the fact of the matter is that the "leaders" that someone like you refers to are "strong, white, Anglo European leaders that look at all other races as inferior to them and think of themselves as being superior to everyone and everything else."
The second an even mildly intelligent individual finds out that you think in this manner, they will also realize that yours is a mindset that is about the last type that is needed in any developed society, and the sooner such a type of caustic ignorance is entirely rooted out from a civilization, the sooner that civilization can prosper and move forward.
It is because of mindsets like yours that the problems you're even talking about here largely exist. Such putrid froth is indicative of only the most morally corrupt mind, and such a mind has exactly zero business in a healthy society.
1 davidtoni 2015-06-24
Who the hell cares what color they are?
If they're alive, aware, and willing to take back our world from The Cabal they can run their campaign out of my house.
We are beyond a "color thing" now. This is survival of every race, every religion, save one.
1 no1113 2015-06-24
That's what I'm saying. I agree. Unfortunately, people like 4to6 very much care and have said multiple times that whites are genetically superior to non whites.
There is an elite that human civilization is being unduly controlled by, and the species would do well to root this influence out.
It should never have been a "color thing" in the first place as far as I'm concerned.
I'm a little confused by this last sentence. "This is survival of every race, every religion, save ONE." tends to mean "This is survival of every race, every religion, except ONE race"." That itself seems to imply the you are okay with *not saving one of those races. Am I correct in this interpretation? And if so, what race are you referring to?
Looking back at this response you posted here, your use of the words "The Cabal" seems at least to imply that the race you might be referring to might be the Jews.
Is that correct?
If it is, then I would not agree with this at all...and this is why:
Firstly, "the Jews" are actually not a race at all. It is a religion. Secondly, "the Jews" that you are in all likelihood referring to (if you indeed are...don't want to assume) are in fact, not Jews at ALL. They are Khazars that infiltrated and hijacked the real (more middle eastern based) Jewish religion, called themselves "Ashkenazi Jews" instead of "Sephardic Jews" (a ridiculous thing, to be sure, as the Sephardics are the real Jews, and the Ashkenazis are little more than Anglo Europeans from eastern Europe) and have used this infiltration to create a global "Guilt Trip Industry" off of - not the least of which took place during WWII. False flag after false flag have been created by them so that they can then use the horrors they're covertly responsible for in order to guilt the world into letting them exact the horror they're exacting.
As such, it is most specifically the actions of those Khazars that call themselves Ashkenazi Zionist Jews that must be rooted out and stopped.
ALL racism must be stopped as well, to be sure. White European ignorant bigots like 4to6 or whatever his name is are a HUGE part of the problem. African racists that go around exacting violent crimes upon other are definitely part of the problem too. Racism of ANY kind is what should be rooted out, and although some groups seem to exact more of it than others, ANYONE who engages in the activity is very much in the wrong and is a definite enemy of humanity and, by extension, the planet Earth itself.
1 davidtoni 2015-06-24
No, I am not referring to Jews at all here.
I assume that you are familiar with the Club of Rome? The Class of 300 that rules the world? The real "Illuminati?"
To them Jews are nothing but "court Jews"--they give people a reason to get pissed off at people that are, in most cases, more successful and maybe even in a prominent government or banking group. So what? That shit is all for show anyhow...those people have wealth, but not even close to the "real" wealth we're dealing with in the Club.
I'm sure that there ARE Jews in the Club of 300 (the Cabal)...but I doubt that there are many, if so. Jews exist a level down the pyramid at least, maybe a few levels down. Definately a level above the goyim but the reasons for this are many and don't, for the most part, come from the Jews themselves.
If I had a magic button that I could push and EVERY JEW on the planet would die at it's push...guess what would happen if it were pushed? Absolutely nothing at all. There would just be fewer people against "their" evil in this world. No "problems" would go away...in fact the mess would be worse than ever before.
And yes, I agree with you and so do many regarding the true Sephardic Jew. When I was in Israel Sephardics were, literally, second-class citizens. The Askenazi (Khazars--and Jewish for political reasons only!) in Israel are (mostly) the Far-Right Zionist nutjobs who want continuous war so the money keeps flowing in for THEIR masters.
Please note that I met MANY awesome leftist Askhenazis in Israel...they knew what was going on, and usually weren't too pleased about it. But in Israel the Leftists have less power than ever before nowadays
Geez, even years ago Ehud Barak was considered a "right-wing Zionist nutjob" but at least they could say "well, yeah, but hell, I'm no Netanyahu, you know!" ; ')
1 no1113 2015-06-24
I can’t say I’m too familiar w/them at all, sir.
I’ve certainly heard of that.
Well, I’m not sure who the “real” Illuminati is, as the individuals on this planet that are supposedly “the enlightened ones” are said to be peon underlings who got all their information from beings far above them still and that aren’t strictly from “around these parts”. Relevant.
Whether it’s the “Club” or some other group that is the one truly in power, I understand what you’re saying here and do not disagree with it.
Sounds about right.
I don’t know that it would be worse than before, but I also don’t think that what you are saying is without reason, and I would sooner agree with you than not.
All very correct, sir.
That’s good to know. They must be careful not to be complicit in the crimes of other Ashkenazis, however, by simply either standing by idly and doing nothing, or perpetuating the evil by virtue of their continuing to allow themselves to benefit from it.
And that indeed is pretty bad when you consider that the previous Zionist nut jobs are being favorably compared to Netanyahu.
1 davidtoni 2015-06-24
Oh my god, I must recommend a book here!
Look it up, you should find it online. It's called "The Conspirators' Hierarchy: the Committee of 300" by Doctor John Coleman. I downloaded mine from rarereactor.tk. This is ESSENTIAL READING!! What's so funny is that they change their name occasionally to sound totally benign...and NOTHING could be further from the truth. It's astounding.
Just be warned, you're about to go down the old rabbit hole like you never have. Since the book was written a few years back you can see how it has all played out PERFECTLY...only guns owned by private citizens are gumming up the works.
This book was essential reading for me. It's all true and suddenly everything will make a TON more sense to you.
Let me know if you have trouble finding it and I can either email it or stick it on Dropbox.
I am so excited to be introducing this material to someone else who could really use the information! I hope that you enjoy it; I guarantee that you will. Best thing is that you'll KNOW it's the truth based on what's happened in the last 15 years and it will make you realize exactly where Jews, Gentiles, Islam denunciation, the current political climate, etc all fit in and it will greatly comfort you that there IS a common enemy and there are far fewer of 'them' than you think.
Enjoy the read friend! This book literally changed my life and my entire way of thinking. It is VERY powerful stuff and 'they' don't like it getting around...all they can do is hope that people consider it all "bullshit conspiracy theory" but events since its last publication show that this is far less than accurate. It's real, and it's scary. But it, at least, shows us EXACTLY who the 'enemies' are...and "the Jews" (yes, even the Ashkenazi) are FAR down the list.
I'm really, really eager and excited for you to read this and let me know what you think. I'm betting that it will have the same effect on your way of thinking as it had on mine.
2 no1113 2015-06-24
Thanks for the book recommendation, sir. Will look into it.
The book I linked above is pretty damn balls deep in the rabbit hole as well, so we’ll see what the 300 book does.
A lot of the b.s. that exists on this planet already makes a lot of sense to me, but it’s always good to know more.
Cool. Thanks. Will do.
Is this it? If so, I found it. :)
Thanks agains for the recommendation. I’m currently reading through William Bramley’s book again (second time). I’ll either begin on the 300 pdf when I’m done w/Bramley’s book, or will read them concurrently.
Cheers,
2 davidtoni 2015-06-24
You found it!! Great. Now the journey will go even deeper. You will be astounded by what these people do and what their reach is. I mean...astounded.
Thanks for the link to the Bramley book! That's a new one for me although I've certainly heard of it!
This will be cool--let's read each other's stuff and then perhaps have a little "bull session" regarding the comments we each have! Could be fun. I'm all for it!
Enjoy it...and ALWAYS read it with a mind towards what is going on today; right now. Remember that it was written some time ago and just marvel in how much of this very "conspiratorial" tome has come to pass post-9/11.
I'll get started on the Bramley book, literally, right this moment. Thanks and cheers!
1 no1113 2015-06-24
Halfway through w/this talk right here.
Pretty insidious stuff most certainly.
Cool. I'm good w/it too.
1 davidtoni 2015-06-24
Wow...I never saw that talk.
I'm 140 pages through the Bramley book and I must say that mind=blown. This whole "custodial" outlook on development was one that I never thought about--imagined, but never had put into words. Wow.
1 no1113 2015-06-24
The rabbit hole goes very deep, my good brother.
Very deep.
Gives a whole new meaning to who and what we might be as a species...
1 davidtoni 2015-06-24
By reading the first chapter I can already guess that you'll totally dig "my" book as it explains that nearly everything is designed to maintain a perpetual state of war.
Listen to David Irving. Had you bothered to lift the hoods of any of the German lorries you would see FORD stamped right there on the intake manifold. In a million ways both sides profited from cities being burned, people being systematically killed, and so on. They profited from the information they gleaned..but not anywhere NEAR as much as they profited monetarily by "playing both sides" and, of course, "playing both sides against each other."
Great book so far and I'm less than 10 pages in! This certainly is my kind of read, for sure. Thanks again!
1 no1113 2015-06-24
Interesting because Coleman, in the lecture that I linked above, talks about quite a few of the plagues that were spread that Bramley also talks about in his book as well. Both Bramley and Coleman have their own various sources - Coleman’s sources lead to the 300 and "black nobility" type of influences. Bramley’s references lead to off world sources. They both seem to have validity in what they say, and I’m not certain at all that either one of their sources invalidates the other.
1 davidtoni 2015-06-24
These "off-world" sources are really blowing my mind. But then again, there are folks who say that the "300" arose from the Sirians, or such things.
This is a really great book. I always thought there WERE such a thing as "off-world intelligences" but that they tried more of a benign "teaching role" that the Dark Ones spun to their own devices. How else to experience "stair-step evolution?" It's like man learns to fish then learns the Precession of the Equinoxes??? Geeezus. There's SOMETHING there that we're missing BIG TIME.
Anyhow, between these two books, I'm hoping to intelligently co-mingle my information and get a "big picture" as to what is happening as it is OBVIOUS that we have been "visited" since, indeed, we existed as a civilization. Probably for a LOT LONGER. I wonder if Bramley gets into what the Moon "really is"--why it reverberates when it's hit, why it acts hollow, etc.
I think that Bramley could have a lot of valid points here. So far I agree 100% with what he's telling me. It's just like....whooooah!.....you know? The brakes are squealing in my head, if you get what I mean...
1 no1113 2015-06-24
Yeah. Kind of difficult to just discount all of them - especially when they’re sourced from archeological and textual evidence.
It’s both. Has to be. Just like human beings. Some of us are mostly assholes. Some of us are mostly saints. All of us have a bit of both in us. Takes all types.
Yep. It really does seem like and there really is a lot of evidence pointing toward the possibility that the missing link between humans and primates is actually in the stars - “out there”.
I’ve started reading the 300 book, and even before I started, it definitely seems to me that humanity is a “kept” race; a species that is used - as far as TPTB here on Earth are concerned - in a manner akin to the way a parasite uses a host. We are the parasite. And who is the host? Well, the 300 are certainly much closer to the host than the average citizen - that much seems indubitably certain - but I’m not 100% certain that the Committee is the very bottom of the rabbit hole. Not in the least. I’m not certain at all that the Committee of 300 are themselves nothing more than peon Earthly emissaries and representative that have a closer connection to who’s really in charge than we the average citizens do, but who themselves may be nothing more than “king rats” to the top top level. Bramley himself makes reference to this and dedicates the entirety of chapter 25 to the concept of the “king rat”.
The rabbit hole goes pretty deep when one gets to things going on here on this planet…but it goes really deep when one begins to consider that there really is actual, valid evidence pointing toward off planet influences and manipulation.
I don’t recall him getting into that too much if at all actually.
Yeah. There are definitely a lot of interesting points he makes.
Ha. Yeah. Shit’s crazy, man. Totally. That’s why I’m reading through his book again a second time. Hey, by the way, there are a couple of pages missing in the book here and there. I forgot which ones they are, however. I have the actual hard copy of the book and I also have a scanner at my place as well, so if you get to those pages, just PM me or whatever, and I’ll scan the copy of the actual page and send it to you no problem so it doesn’t disrupt your reading. I’d do it now, but - again - I forgot which pages in the pdf are missing.
Cheers,
2 davidtoni 2015-06-24
Thanks for the reply!
I agree with you, the 300 are definitely near the top as far as the PEOPLE go but are they the custodians?? It seems obvious to me at this point that there is a custodial race somewhere, using this whole thing for...what??? Energy? Are we being mined for something? This is what I'm hoping Bramley's book explains...and I'm being led to believe that it's headed that way pretty soon now.
It goes down further than I could have ever dreamed. With Bramley's info in the mix (and with the realization that is HAS TO BE TRUE in great part--it's obvious, especially after the discourse on the religions) it's like I'm pretty sure that I'm simply not gonna "get" this "cosmic joke" until it all plays out and I'm not here to "evolve" any further...except perhaps in an energetic sense. Who knows??
Did you read that famous thread from GLP, god, it must have been five years back--it was a guy that was, supposedly from "up the ladder" and he answered certain questions that were phrased intelligently? If you know what I speak of...I want to re-read those after the Bramley book. If you're in the dark try googling something like "GLP illuminati interview." Was like an AMaA for a level above the Club of Rome. REALLY INTERESTING. I will try to find it somewhere if you've yet to read it. It took place over five days.
Cheers. I'll keep you updated, so far...WOW.
1 no1113 2015-06-24
I would say very likely “no”. I’d say the 300 are likely some of the top terrestrial emissaries of the custodial society. I wouldn’t doubt that some of these Earthly representatives might even be more genetically related to them than the average human, but I do not think that they actually are the custodians themselves to any degree.
I’d say perhaps off planet based.
Seems to me as far as I’ve been able to assess from the readings and research I’ve done that the reason might be two-fold:
Use a genetically created slave to mine for gold needed to restore a possibly deteriorating atmosphere on their home planet, and
Use this slave race as a host to parasite off of and not only keep the host/slave subjugated, conquered, and dominated (like humans keep, say, cows and other domesticated livestock used for slaughter), but keep the creator-custodial species and it’s Earthly representatives (i.e. those humans in, perhaps, The 300 Club, among perhaps other secret societies) advantaged, elite, and quite well off/cared for/tended to.
These are two of the more nefarious possibilities. There is a third option, however, and this one, while no less powerfully subjugating and indeed cruel in its own way, might have a much greater, more complicated implication down the line for the human species that can actually be said to be good and evolutionarily advantageous.
I outlined this third possibility over two years ago, and although some of the quantifiable dates and particulars have proven themselves to be miscalculated, the overall direction and meaning of the information itself still very much stands, and I would not be surprised if there is much more truth to it than not.
If you want to really understand what I was talking about in it, I would suggest that you read all of my responses in that particular thread along with the site I linked - and not just the OP alone. The information there is a rabbit hole that goes veeery deep - deeper than even Bramley’s work alone, if you can believe that.
So these three options are my current guesstimates with regard to what might possibly be going on here on this planet. I by no means pretend that these are exhaustive guesses, however. I’m sure there are other factors involved.
Maybe.
It seems that this is a very astute overall assessment on your part. I would also say that, as a bumper sticker I read a while back that still sticks with me to this day said: We are not humans beings having spiritual experiences. We are spiritual beings having human experiences.
As such, I would venture that you might very well be right in that further understanding and elucidation will likely take place upon our evolving further into a more energetic state after discarding these physical vehicles we currently call “our bodies”.
Very interesting, sir - very interesting indeed - because the link I referenced above I think itself heavily references the very talk I believe you are here referring to.
It seems we are functioning on similar wavelengths here.
The two pieces, in conjunction with the commentary that I myself made on it, I feel helps clear the air just a bit in terms of what might really be going on.
That or it might just confuse one even more. (lol) :)
Please do.
Namaste, my good man.
1 no1113 2015-06-24
Hey. Continuing on in my second pass through Bramley's book, I came across this interesting tidbit of information related to some of the things we were talking about.
On page 211 it says:
It further goes on to say:
Then on page 212 it says:
I could imagine some of the members of the Committee of 300 being at least partially, distantly related to some of these beings perhaps. Additionally, in the last quote, one can see where some of the beginnings of the fiat currency and banking systems began.
Very interesting stuff, to be sure.
1 davidtoni 2015-06-24
This is amazingly interesting.
I'm on mobile phone so I'll respond in time when I have a real keyboard.
1 no1113 2015-06-24
Cool.
2 Autocoprophage 2015-06-24
stop your infighting and learn how to defer and be quiet, and maybe you will have a leader.
just saying.
-1 teh-beast 2015-06-24
I will lead you all soon enough, be patient.
3 no1113 2015-06-24
Lead yourself, bro.
Lead yourself.
3 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
Also can you not see that this whole house of cards is about to fall down? We are not going to hold it up any longer, I think I can speak for many of us here.
-1 thepipesarecall 2015-06-24
Lol.
2 davidtoni 2015-06-24
He's 100% correct.
I asked 25+ people today at bus stops what they thought about passing TPP. The ONE person who knew slightly what was happening asked me what it had to do with Rahm Emanuel.
The public is nearly 100% in the dark and will continue to be thanks to false flags like Charleston.
1 iamagod_____ 2015-06-24
Being willing and knowing when to throw ones self on that one way ratcheting cog is the means to halt the machine.
1 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
There is one simple solution to all of this and yes it is simple. Be the change you want to see in the world and project that outwardly. If we love the world and each other, our lives are fundamentally changed and the world is fundamentally changed and all it is like everything else is a choice. Don't lose faith in humanity. Humanity is like an ocean, if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
0 your-nuts-sir 2015-06-24
You shill you.
Attempt to demoralize much lol
2 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
We're not discussing your personal preferences ;) aha
2 falseramona 2015-06-24
You may not do shit. That's your right. You have no right to speak for me.
2 H3CX 2015-06-24
What can I do to stop the TPP and stand up for myself? I really want to do something, I just don't know what to do.
2 Findout246 2015-06-24
Michael Ruppert and William Cooper would strongly disagree with you.
0 your-nuts-sir 2015-06-24
Ah... The business chance lightbulb lights up.
Searches for discount anal lube on alibaba.
3 Bacore 2015-06-24
Are you saying you'll refuse to comply with rules instituted by our elected reps that sell us down the river especially when they never even bothered to let us see the paperwork that sells us so we could at least discuss it?
Are you saying you never elected a representative who's job was to enslave you rather than represent you?
Are you saying that non-compliance to enslavement is the right thing to do when someone i trying to enslave you?
3 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
Yes, never and yes.
3 DjKnivez 2015-06-24
Mass non compliance is the answer
2 hellomondays 2015-06-24
maybe im jaded but this is going to go a lot like nafta. A lot of anti-globalist outrage for a month then everyone quiets down and moves on with their lives.
1 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
How far are those people willing to go before they rise up. We are sick of this. We can bring change. No one person can do everything but everyone can do something.
1 [deleted] 2015-06-24
a month sounds optimistic, people hardly see past a week trying to earn their keep
2 mambotangohandala 2015-06-24
Nonviolent Noncooperational Confrontation
2 chamaelleon 2015-06-24
Everyone needs to learn how to make a 3D printer out of old inkjets, and grow hemp to turn into bioplastic and hempcrete substrates for the printers. Make all your own stuff instead of buying it from corporations, or they will continue to buy and own our government.
1 [deleted] 2015-06-24
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4 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
I believe it is the change in us, the shift in consciousness that is going to bring change and pull us through this. There is a new dawn as they say but not what they expect it to be.
1 opheliaks 2015-06-24
There is no shift. If people were standing blocking traffic creating an uproar in the streets. If people stopped working for these company's shit would change. They can't inprision everyone. Make a spectacle let the world see how enraged you are but eberyones addicted to the cash. They wont change there's no growing consciousness.
1 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
It's not obvious to everyone, yet. There can be certain circumstances that hasn't allowed this process to begin. One thing we are not, is powerless. That's the exact attitude they want to entrap us in. Poor little me! You are not a puppet which life pushes around, deep down you are the whole universe. I feel that you're underestimating your own capabilities. The key is opening your heart and letting the information guide you wherever it leads. You don't seek enlightenment just like there's no path to peace, peace is the path and enlightenment has been there all along, you have to remove the barriers and let it in.
1 malcomte 2015-06-24
What do you mean non-compliance?
Not obeying? Guess what happens when the ISDS makes a judgement against California for its minimum wage laws or its Supreme court deciding Uber's contractors were in fact employees.
I imagine that any kind of ISDS judgement will be enforced anytime a State issues debt, regardless of the will of the people, regardless of non-compliance.
I believe in resistance and creating communities of resilience. To truly not comply with the TPP, I think you would have to stop working/using corporate stuffs.
1 Wood_Warden 2015-06-24
The unions are threatened by the TPP (and all the other incoming trade agreements).
They need to shut down America with a mass strike.
All the eviscerated middle class that live month to month in rental (or mortgage enslaved) homes can't afford to do this though. Thus the dilemma.
We need some sort of quorum sensing in which the entire population acts as a whole to work towards a common goal. It's the only way that will work with positive results that lead away from some new form of control taking grip again.
1 Cgimarelli 2015-06-24
Relevant: The Three Stages of a Revolution
0 [deleted] 2015-06-24
I'm sorry but waiting for the 3 ads at the top of the page is total bullshit. You can run a website on maybe $20/month US....
edit: page has 4 splash screen ads, then a shitload more. FOR FUCKSAKE it's just a capitalist page seeking fucking idiots.
1 immibis 2015-06-24
Non-compliance to what, exactly?
1 [deleted] 2015-06-24
Won't achieve anything, even on reddit, most people don't care. Apart from people who spend a lot of time on the internet people don't know enough about it to care.
1 keptfloatin707 2015-06-24
You down with TPP?
You down with TPP?
You down with TPP?
1 patrioticamerican1 2015-06-24
Better yet do what Colorado did recall them all.
0 I_askthequestions 2015-06-24
How can we comply to something that is undemocratic and kept secret?
3 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
By voting or supporting the system in any way or by doing nothing.
0 [deleted] 2015-06-24
Hate to point it out. But you basically just said "we can't". By doing or not doing something, covers all possible behaviors in general. Maybe that was the point.
The biggest hurdle to me, is when raising awareness of this bullshit, to circumvent the mainstream ideology with simple examples and measures of action. We don't really have that... and it'd be awesome to say I did, but I do not.
0 Potss 2015-06-24
Mass noncompliance--->mass revolt.
0 jdballin23 2015-06-24
Mass non compliance is the weapon of choice, however you must know your enemy. If people don't realize that first mass non compliance isn't a real possibility.
0 PythonEnergy 2015-06-24
However, most sheep follow the lead of the sheepdogs.
0 Tempest_the_Tank 2015-06-24
But... but... what about the Dukes of Hazzard toys??
0 blacksunalchemy 2015-06-24
I fail to see how one can "not comply" with the TPP.
1 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
Of the TPP's 29 draft chapters, only 5 deal with traditional trade issues. Most would set rules on non trade matters that affect our daily lives. "Food safety", internet freedom, medicine costs, job offshoring, financial regulation, and more. Our domestic policies would be required to comply with the TPP rules. So we do not comply. This is far bigger than the TPP. Mass non compliance to the whole economic system. A system that the more successful it is in it's own terms, the quicker it destroys the planet. It's the perfect environmental and human assassin. Mass non compliance will bring the whole thing down.
0 blacksunalchemy 2015-06-24
So you want to collapse the entire US economy to protest the TPP? Burning down the forest to save the animals doesn't sound like the most logical of approaches.
2 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
I know it's hard to imagine a world none of us have ever seen but it is perfectly possible for every human being to have a life full of abundance and health, joy and harmony with the universe. Knowledge and the imagination of possibility. We do not need our government, it needs us. Just like the earth does not need us, we need it.
0 blacksunalchemy 2015-06-24
I really don't think you are thinking this through. Utopian fantasies are just that, fantasy.
Your fantasy would crumble the foundations of modern civilization and take us back 200 years.
No electricity, no electronic communications, no waste and water management, no food safety, no maintained roads, no rail, no airplanes, no nothing.
In fact, it would probably lead to the deaths of billions of people as groups rush in to fill the power vacuum. Civil Wars, rioting in the streets, mass murder on an untold scale.
Government is not the enemy, it's the corruption that is the enemy. By eliminating government and it's protections on all the aspects of modern society, you invite chaos to reign.
Your utopia would never come to fruition.
1 TheMassAwakening 2015-06-24
Of the TPP's 29 draft chapters, only 5 deal with traditional trade issues. Most would set rules on non trade matters that affect our daily lives. "Food safety", internet freedom, medicine costs, job offshoring, financial regulation, and more. Our domestic policies would be required to comply with the TPP rules. So we do not comply. This is far bigger than the TPP. Mass non compliance to the whole economic system. A system that the more successful it is in it's own terms, the quicker it destroys the planet. It's the perfect environmental and human assassin. Mass non compliance will bring the whole thing down.
0 [deleted] 2015-06-24
I'm sorry but waiting for the 3 ads at the top of the page is total bullshit. You can run a website on maybe $20/month US....
edit: page has 4 splash screen ads, then a shitload more. FOR FUCKSAKE it's just a capitalist page seeking fucking idiots.