One thing I give to Texas, you do not give into the shit. You are labeled hostile and the confederate flag is being censored. The flag is about rebellion, not slaves. Keep your head up (we are with you). I'm a yankee, but my spirit resonates with yours.

Unfortunately Texans are growing further apart these days, with social media serving to fuel arguments among everyone. Maybe it's just among my generation, who likes to consider themselves progressives even as their rights and freedoms are stripped away. I used to consider myself fairly liberal until I started thinking about the broader implications of a growing federal government.

The only flag censoring I've heard of is state governments addressing the flag on state property... have private flags been censored?

There was a post here recently that showed a conversation between a customer and an Amazon employee concerning why they stopped selling any merchandise with a Confederate Cross on it. The Amazon employee stated that they stopped selling Confederate flags, bandanas, etc. "to comply with new federal mandates" or something to that effect. That scares me, because there has not been any news of a real or potential "federal mandate" pressuring companies to stop selling Confederate merchandise or outright banning it.

Regardless of your feelings towards Confederate symbology, the fact that the government can strong-arm big businesses into refusing to sell something because Uncle Sam doesn't like it is terrifying. It's the first step down the slope. Next, as we just saw in Oklahoma, comes the Ten Commandments. They. Will. Not. Stop.

If the only evidence of this "federal mandate" is the second-hand testimony of an Amazon wage-earner, and not some sort of law or executive order, I question the veracity of the claim... If the government's strong-arming businesses, you're right. Is there more evidence to support that claim?

If the only evidence of this "federal mandate" is the second-hand testimony of an Amazon wage-earner, and not some sort of law or executive order, I question the veracity of the claim... I

Exactly.

I'll bet anything that chat transcript was falsified. And even if it wasn't, it was just an ignorant Amazon employee making an ignorant comment. But it's MUCH more likely this was fabricated by some Confederate apologists trying to get people all worked up.

There was either a post or an article that mentioned it, but I'm having a bit of trouble finding it. Honestly, I'd rather it not be true, if you know what I mean.

Not privately yet. But wouldn't you agree that if you were going to eventually censor it and make it illegal, stopping distribution would be a priority?

Has the government stopped flag distribution somehow? Seriously, all I've heard about is what private retailers have decided about their wares, and what state governments have decided about decorating state property. If there's more to the story that I've been ignorant to, please share.

I have to admit; the conservative movement does an amazing good job scaring the shit out of its followers. They are absolutely trembling with fear of things that have not happened and never will.

It can't be good that we have tens of millions of citizens who are filled with terror based on lies told to them by self-serving right wing political activists.

You should know that. The govt has not done this. That's you inserting a strawman and creating an argument. You had no idea what I really typed there. edit: oh and you didn't answer my question, you dodged it.

You said:

But wouldn't you agree that if you were going to eventually censor it and make it illegal, stopping distribution would be a priority?

To me, agreeing would imply that some entity wants to censor the flag, that entity wants to make it illegal, and that entity is somehow responsible for "stopping distribution." However, all I've seen about "stopping distribution" has been private retailers making decisions about what products they carry, and state governments making decisions about how they decorate state property.

I did not intend to insert a strawman; the way I read your question, agreeing with you would imply a singular entity is engaged in "stopping distribution" with the end goal of censoring and outlawing the flag.

I will answer your question directly: Yes. If an entity doesn't want the flag anywhere, it would make sense for that entity to take whatever steps they can, including ending retail distribution, censoring free speech, or legally banning free speech.

However, I do not know of a singular entity in existence which has the power to make this happen, and further, I've seen no evidence that such an entity is actively engaged in this issue today.

I look forward to you reading into this to find out how I'm attacking you and must be wrong; please feel free to share whatever insights or insults occur to you.

The only flag censoring I've heard of is state governments addressing the flag on state property

And that's not censorship. If state legislatures choose to remove the flag, they are exercising freedom. That's their job: they control the capitol grounds and they are in charge of deciding what's on the flag. They are simply exercising their legal and legitimate prerogatives.

And you're right: there is no censorship of private flags. People can fly all the flags they want on their own property; they can get a Confederate Flag tattooed on their face if they want.

You're the kind of Yankee us southern folks love!

/u/Ihopeitsround I'm in Texas too and my part got slammed with some heavy thunderstorms that seemed to have come from out of nowhere! And they said this morning that there's more to come.

Today and yesterday make Bill look like a little sprinkle.

All Yankees are Northerners, but not all Northerners are Yankees, and you prove this fact well. We Southrons need more folks like you north of the Mason-Dixon Line, folks who understand our past and know that we're not a bunch of racist hillbillies.

Now I'm a loyal Louisiana boy, but if Texas secedes or redeclares its independence from the mess we're in, I'm goin' with it!

I have a buttload of theories but no evidence

/r/conspiracy

You may want to look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkK_5j98HLo

I found it quite interesting coming from a different angle and it does seem to make some sense regarding the areas marked as hostile and the reasoning as to why. At the end of the day the USA and Israel have been gunning for Iran for years and threatening them if they develop their nuclear programs. I just have a feeling that this is what Jade Helm is all about, but I must admit that all the martial law theories going around could certainly still happen at the same time.

It must also be said that Iran is one of only three countries left without a Rothschild centralised bank, and as you can see from the following, countries that do not have a centralised bank haven't fared too well in the past....

In the year of 2000 there were seven countries without a Rothschild owned Central Bank:

Afghanistan Iraq Sudan Libya Cuba North Korea Iran

The only countries left in 2003 without a Central Bank owned by the Rothschild Family were:

Sudan Libya Cuba North Korea Iran

The Attacks of September 11th helped to invade Afghanistan and Iraq to then establish a Central Bank in those countries.

The only countries left in 2011 without a Central Bank owned by the Rothschild Family are:

Cuba North Korea Iran

After the instigated protests and riots in the Arab countries the Rothschild finally paved their way into establishing Central Banks, and getting rid of many leaders, which put them into more power.

So you can see that many of the countries listed who didn't have a centralised bank found themselves at war and eventually under new control having one installed. It is my opinion that the powers that be want to war with Iran so they can take over and install a sock puppet leader who will do as they want and then eventually set up a Rothschild centralised bank.

I see this information passed around in memes and comments on blogs, but there isn't any proof for it, is there? Is it just something "we know" but don't have evidence for? What's the single strongest bit of evidence that the Rothschilds own all the central banks in all the countries in the world except 3?

Isn't that kind of an amazing claim? Doesn't it seem that if it were true, there would be abundant evidence of it? How could they keep something like that secret?

Even if we limit the discussion to the US Federal Reserve: What's the single best piece of evidence that the Rothschilds own the Federal Reserve?

Or if I may ask the question another way. Since there isn't any evidence, even a tiny bit, that the Rothschilds own every central bank on earth except 3, what was the single most significant thing that made you believe it?

this website lists all the central banks alledegedly owned by a Rothshild. Problem is, Iran is listed on there... I think people don't really know what they are saying about any of this. Some hard proof would be nice.

well as you are right in saying that there is no evidence, and I don't normally refer to them as Rothchilds centralised banks, it was just a quick cut and paste job from a site displaying the few countries without centralised banks over the last decade or so and I just kind of left it in without thinking.

But regardless of who is behind them, and even if it is just one person or group behind them all, I think it is safe to say they are inherently evil and not good for nations. the people behind them earn billions for loaning to governments, and they are not even loaning true wealth, it's just fiat monopoly money they lend that is not backed by gold. Countries just stuck in a never ending cycle of debt and people enslaved to the bank.

But they do say that the Rothchilds fortune is half of the worlds wealth, again no evidence for that but it's believable given the families achievements and background in banking. If you're looking at that kind of wealth then it is difficult not to see the potential power you could hold over governments and get them to install a central bank.

I want to believe what you said about the Rothschilds banks, but I've never seen that fact sourced.

Well that's fair play I guess, and I doubt we will ever know who is behind them as they won't want anyone to know. It's more than likely a consortium of wealthy people, but as one of the richest people on the planet, if not the richest, and with a banking incredible successful background in the Rothschilds family history I would be surprised if he is not in the mix somewhere.

The confederate flag symbolizes slavery about as much as a penguin symbolizes warm sunny weather. You know the first slaves actually brought to this country were the Irish long before we had any flags of our own. It's just a distraction to sew seeds of malice.

The military exercise is exstensive because of what it is training. Its mainly special forces and its evasion tactics. Overseas, our troops have found themselves in situations where they need to eacape an area quietly and quickly. This exercise is to do just that. States are labeled "hostile" because the soldier/s are to pretend theyre in a hostile state and have to make it to a safe zone through any means nwcessary. All the equipment is to give the soldiers a realistic training of war. Tanks, helicopters, bases, etc are all things you can encounter when trying to escape a country.

I dont trust the government but I trust that our troops would not, under any curcumstance, raid, violate, or fireupon american citizens.

I still look at the fact that soldiers are people, not robots. Although throughout history we see examples of people acting as robots but thats because they had motivation driving them to follow theyre leader such as food and shelter in a country that doesnt have those things. Our soldiers are still people who volunteer to fight for our country to protect us, i cannot physically see every single soldier willingly following orders like that. I for one would fight and i know many ithers would too. Actually most marines dont approve of the obama administration. Now knowing this, would the government risk this? Its asking for a revolution that they will lose. Theres to much at stake for something like this to happen in my opinion. But, i always keep an open mind and my gun at my side just incase something were to happen. I dont trust the government so im not dropping my guard completely.

Jade Helm is a joke. Its the new "FEMA Camps OMG!!" The only problem is the Youtubers who are making money off you watching their videos can't use "FEMA Camp 2015" in their titles and descriptions because its played out. As I told my brother last year when he was trying to convince me that FEMA was coming for us and told me to google "FEMA Camps 2014," I said, "Dude, google FEMA Camps 2012 and 2013. Its the same bullshit every year."

Downvote away and keep living in FEARMA suckers...

you mean "InfoLiars.com"? yeah

Exactly! Where's the EMP? Fema coffins? Death camps? Death panels? Fear Theater

FEMA has the ability to suspend the constitution. They are coming for your guns next, just like they did during Katrina.

Derp

I dunno what the fuck is going on, but you can be damn sure there's an evil wizard behind it.

I have been hearing and seeing quite a bit about these bases springing up everwhere.

I would love to see some photo / video evidence of all these bases popping up everywhere.

Personally, I just think Jade Helm are exercises and training for a coming major war overseas. Posturing to oppose the increasing aggression coming from Russia.

It's almost like prep for Cold War 2.0

Personally, I think there's a lot more research you need to do on Jade Helm if that's what you believe. You're believing what the government is telling you its for at face value, which is an out right lie.

It's the gov't/military staging resources in every city and state across nation in preparation for implementing countrywide martial law because they know our currency is on the verge of collapse which will result in immediate economic collapse of our whole country that is going to be FAR worse than what's happening in Greece right now. Greece's current state of insolvency and economic collapse is the first domino that is going to spread through the financial markets and trigger the collapse of our currency which will result in the collapse of many other countries as well.

Personally, I think there's a lot more research you need to do on Jade Helm if that's what you believe. You're believing what the government is telling you its for at face value, which is an out right lie.

I don't know about that. I recall when a similar exercise happened in the 90's called Operation Urban Warrior. They did a mock invasion of San Francisco bay, used 6,000+ troops, attack helicopters, tanks, APC's and set up internment camps where they processed dissidents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2PRX9pgXh0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jmimkL6oec

People like Alex Jones were calling it prep for Martial Law in America back then, and yet nothing happened as a result. It was just a training exercise.

So no, I don't think Jade Helm is prep for martial law.

Anyone that goes against the narrative will soon be labeled a domestic terrorist. I saw a comment in a /r/news article about people protesting the whole confederate flag thing and the comment was calling for them to all be killed for treason. There was also this story, http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html?referrer= , that was on the front page of /r/news the other day that talks about how homegrown extremists are more responsible for the deaths of US citizens than any outside terroristic threats. Which then sets the table for the crackdown of any citizen who exercises their right to free speech against the government as being a dangerous extremist , even more dangerous than the big bad Muslim terrorist bogeymen. All you have to do is pay attention to what stories and narratives are trying to be pushed on sites like this to get a picture of what lays in store for the future. This site is used to push narratives, those narratives are pushed for a reason. Things are going to start getting even more interesting, perhaps sooner than we realize.

Still waiting for your EMP that never happened. When are you textards going to realize jade helm is what the govt says it is, a training exercise?

Try or don't try. I don't care either way

oh no, people are disagreeing with my theory

surely it's not a bad theory, it's THEM who are wrong!

I was using that format to show that your logic is flawed. What kind of truth do you think flawed logic will get you?

Consider this: isn't people thinking the same as the rest of the members of the group exactly the reason they get deceived?

I don't even care about jade helm. I just care that we don't use the same tactics to get people to blindly agree with them as politicians do.

I'm basing my approach off of Socrates. People often thought he disliked them because he would question them, when in reality he just wanted them to know the truth. He supported them by strengthening their minds.

I think that you would benefit from reading The Apology and book 6 of The Republic, which are available translated online and free. Trust me, they will give you a better understanding of the world and help you in your endeavor for truth.

They're pretty short, I can send you links if you want.

Buddhism's similarities to western philosophy are astounding. Do you remember the divided line? The journey from Begginer's mind to enlightenment is just like Plato's journey from perception to intelligence.

I'm gonna research that. That sounds incredibly interesting. Thank you.