Sorry, if they accepted the money then that would be discrimination and a conspiracy.

This on the other hand is good news. It shows more acceptance

Sorry, if they accepted the money then that would be discrimination and a conspiracy.

That is why this entire thing is so hard to believe. Some multi-millionaire out there thought the Girl Scouts would accept this offer when they have a history of supporting transgender girls? They tripled the offer in 2 days.

Just check out their video asking for money: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/girl-scouts-is-foreverygirl#/story

Brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it? I'm all about acceptance, but this just doesn't seem real. And how would they even get caught?

There are plenty of bigots out there. Also plenty of people who think it is unnatural and should be stopped.

Maybe they thought that money could convince them it is very powerful after all

If somebody has 100 grand to throw around, chances are they aren't mentally retarded. An obvious result of the offer would be a media-shitstorm that would go against their interests. The Girl Scouts of WW know where their money comes from. They'd get more money supporting trans girls than excluding them. 66 percent of people who know a trangender person have favorable feelings towards them, compared to 13 percent who did not. And a 2011 poll showed 73 percent support protecting gay and transgender people from workplace discrimination. Anyone who has even done light reading on the subject knows that this organization would never accept that offer in a million years.

I'm not trying to fool anyone here. Obviously, I'm not claiming I have proof, but then again, how would you even get the proof? It was an anonymous donor. All I'm saying is it wouldn't surprise me at all, given the history of charity abuse. I just want people to think of these types of things before they open their wallets. Sometimes, the world is a dark place and some people really do have no conscience. I can see how this could be easily rationalized as well. The ends justify the means. As long as we are promoting the acceptance of trans people, anything goes.

If someone has 100 grand to throw around with that condition, perhaps they are mentally retarded.

Do you think this type of fundraising operation is implausible? Just think of how easy it would be to do this and how extremely unlikely it would be to get caught.

The Boy Scouts of America covered up child sexual abuse and were forced to release files. But a Girl Scouts organization can't play with a little PR to raise funds? It's entirely plausible.

Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts are two entirely separate organizations. Putting them in the same boat isn't fair argument.

That's not really what I was going for. The point of mentioning that was to establish that because an organization calls itself philanthropic or charitable doesn't make it any more likely that it is moral or impossible for corruption to be present.

Historical context is always a good option when having conversations about plausibility of this or that. Without any similar examples, my argument would be much less convincing. Imagine a world where pedophilia in churches was unheard of and somebody accused a priest of molesting children. The only reason those accusations have any credibility is because of the amount of similar accusations.

You are correct that the refused donation could be falsified. However evidence suggests not. Donations, large donations especially, often come with stipulations. Given the recent attack on Girl Scouts for their acceptance of transgenders and their frequent partnerships with churches it is highly possible. Additionally, even if were a money grab, the funds collected in this campaign are detailed to be for their underserved girl program. This is a stipulation they set themselves and have to abide by. Money raised will still benefit the cause they claim.

The CEO gets a percentage of the raised money as salary, right? 2 percent or something like that.

No. When you donate and specify a certain area, it will go to that area. This wasn't marketed to be a general donation. I should note that the vast majority of GS staff have a lesser salary for their position than elsewhere in their community.

Maybe they aren't retarded, I never suggested that anyway. There are rich people who are backwards in their beliefs. Maybe they honestly did just think they could apply enough pressure to get them to accept what they wanted

That is obviously what everyone else believes. I don't understand why you are repeating this to me as if I've never thought of it. I've considered that point of view. Anything is possible.

The only difference here is that nobody is admitting to the plausibility of what I highlighted. I've mentioned the history of charities to establish a reference point in reality. I outlined how easy it would be to pull this off and how to maximize gains with virtually no danger of being caught. Everything is there except for proof. So, is it plausible or not?

Did I say that it was not plausible? No. I am playing to the contrary. Also is anyone harmed by this conspiracy? No

Also is anyone harmed by this conspiracy? No

Assuming for the sake of argument that this actually did happen in the way that I described, regular people were psychologically manipulated into handing money out to a charity who otherwise would not have donated had they been privy to all of the information.

Even then it is advertising, people may have forgotten about the guides.

They supported the idea in the first place

Not any worse than advertising...I guess I can't really disagree.

Bill Hicks on Advertising.

:P

This was put out by a Girl Scout council, not the national organization which produces marketing campaigns for use across the board. In fact, GSUSA has not touched the subject.

Donations are made to Girl Scout councils all the time--many of them are anonymous and some have stipulations. Large donations do happen from businesses and individuals and they are no exception.

Donald Trump

If somebody has 100 grand to throw around, chances are they aren't mentally retarded.

I could see every billionaire who supports the GOP doing that.

Charities and various other groups have denied free money because of the source for quite some time now.

For example, the Prostate Cancer Foundation refused a donation of $5,000 from Reddit because the funds were raised via r/thefappening.

Source

The controversy the Scouts would've caused would've been monumental. Especially given the context of recent gay marriage.

Charities and various other groups have denied free money because of the source for quite some time now.

And heads of charities, especially massive popular charities, have a long history of fraud, abuse, and even molesting multiple children. Just because it says "charity," doesn't mean they are any more likely to be good people. That is why this whole thing seems fake to me because it wouldn't be a surprise at all. In fact, this would be pretty tame in comparison. https://www.charitywatch.org/charitywatch-articles/charitywatch-hall-of-shame/63

The controversy the Scouts would've caused would've been monumental. Especially given the context of recent gay marriage.

Which is obviously why nobody would offer them money to exclude trans girls. They obviously wouldn't accept.

And heads of charities, especially massive popular charities, have a long history of fraud, abuse, and even molesting multiple children.

How is that relevant to the discussion?

I'm assuming most people don't know this fact. This lack of knowledge would cloud a person's judgement about accusations against a charity because most people think "moral" when they hear the word "charity" or "non-profit," etc.

The same would go for a person who has never heard of any accusations against priests, then a person comes along and claims the church is misusing funds. They would think "yea right, it's a church!"

Oh I gotcha. Kind of weird to bring it up, as the conversation you were having centered more on the source of the money, not its use. But I guess more information is always good.

Also is anyone harmed by this conspiracy? No

Assuming for the sake of argument that this actually did happen in the way that I described, regular people were psychologically manipulated into handing money out to a charity who otherwise would not have donated had they been privy to all of the information.