Anything with even the word vaccine in it is almost always immediately downvoted in this sub.

I don't think that is true, but people do seem to have very polarized views when it comes to them.

Do you post vaccine related stories? Do you post stories anywhere near the frequency I do?

Because vaccines work.

Yea, like last year's flu vaccine that the CDC had to come out and say was 3% effective. Good odds! Where do I sign up?

Vaccines are sound in theory, there is zero way to argue against that.

Just ask smallpox how effective a vaccine is. Now the flip side is that as soon as you begin to monetize a product there is incentive to sell sell sell regardless of outcomes.

Ironically smallpox had all but died out on it's own way before vaccinations came along. There had been a massive 90% decline in cases and it looked to be on its way out. Vaccination didn't bring it under control, vaccination was merely brought into use when it was too late and barely changed any smallpox statistics.

Same with Polio.

Ironically smallpox had all but died out on it's own way before vaccinations came along.

The first inoculations for smallpox were just after 1800, the first real modern attempts at eradication happened just around 1950.

It was trending down because people understood more about disease. Simply the fact that inoculations work should be proof that vaccines are scientifically sound.

Just check some graphs out showing the decline of smallpox and the introduction of vaccination, you will see there is clearly no correlation and smallpox had all but died out before vaccinations even started.

Vaccination may have eradicated it and kept it at bay for all these years but that could have well been happening of its own accord anyway looking at stats.

they are using fear tactics to force/'lawfully' insist we/children are medicated for diseases/infections that are no real threat at all

aaaaaand to add insult to injury (pun intended) they have no liability (on purpose, shaming us for not trusting big brother tyranny, when our blames go misdirected) when the plethora of injuries inevitably spring up from the poisons in the 'vaccines'

But at what cost, one must wonder. Remember the doctor who was discredited, and thrown into an insane asylum to rot for pointing out that doctors should wash their hands? There wasn't even money involved in that circumstance, yet he was viciously attacked for going against the current mindset of the medical community. Here we have a situation where companies are making a killing on the administration of vaccines and vaccines are adamantly supported by the vast majority of the medical community. So you can imagine the opposition to the very idea that vaccines could be unsafe will be hounded down.

that's exactly why we need the visibility of a actual legislator/politician to stand up for America and against these pharma companies that are making $ from killing us 'legally'

That isn't the problem a lot of people have with them. The problem is that there is a lack of trust in how they are regulated. Ok, so polio vaccines work, but does that mean they are effective against all diseases? Does that mean companies should be trusted to make new vaccines without telling us how they are tested?

just because a certain 'vaccine' can hopefully induce an immune response semi-effectively after someone gets a disease/infection... this doesn't mean we need to preemptively give children an alphabet of 'vaccines' to save them from the sick monster ... AND from the mountains of evidence we have seen so far these 'vaccines' are doing more harm than good IPSOFACTO if the govt is requiring that children are given these innumerable, harmful, unhelpful 'vaccines' they are NOT doing any of this in the interest of the general public/health, but SIMPLY to LINE THE POCKETS of BIG PHARMA!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!! WE SHOULD ALL BE SOOO MAD ABOUT THIS!!!!

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Care to enlighten me as to where? I've never been aware of that. I will browse through it this weekend if I can find a good source.

Hi i checked into how vaccines were tested in Canada before being used on the public. The info i found was that safety data was being submitted by the manufacturer. I personally am not against vaccines but i firmly believe that people should have a choice. I wrote an article on it. if you are interested you can find it here: http://www.thefinalhour.ca/the-final-word/the-war-drum/index.html

Any links to naturalnews get automatically spam filtered sitewide on reddit. The mods here have told AutoModerator to approve any such submissions, but I'm not sure if the same works for comments or not or if AutoModerator just screwed up and didn't save it from the dustbin.

Stuff going into the spam filter automatically (not put there by AutoModerator) would not show up in the mod log. For example, if you look on the mod log right now, your OP here had to be approved by AutoModerator.

Edited - there are 2 invisible replies in this topic. I saw one had been filtered by AutoModerator (posted by a new user, /u/moocanada). Not sure if the other one is a shadowbanned user or what's up, but I didn't see it in the mod log.

what is wrong with naturalnews?

They got caught vote brigading. Their articles are un-cited utter garbage anyways.

Agreed, you are right I've read a few, its just fear mongering without proof.

Any links to naturalnews get automatically spam filtered sitewide on reddit.

Exactly.

For example, if you look on the mod log right now, your OP here had to be approved by AutoModerator.

I think this speaks to the success of making the mod logs public. Without transparency, then drama can be manufactured over legitimate site-wide issues (such as the banning of natural news).

So yeah, well done on just checking the mod log, you're spot on.

You're also absolutely correct about the new user (moocanada) being filtered by the automod (account is only a few hours old).

Not sure if the other one is a shadowbanned user

Yes there is, good call and thanks for pointing it out.

/u/frygo is shadowbanned and I've approved the comment.

4 out of 5 times when a comment is "missing" it's a new user or someone linking to infowars, natural news, etc.

However, sometimes it is in fact a shadowbanned user.

I wonder why they hide the shadowbanned user's comment, but not the fact a comment is there.

Is Infowars in a sitewide spam filter as well?

That would explain why I rarely see links to it, and the few I do are in this sub.

Most of the time its spam. A normal user figures out pretty quick (Usually) that they have been shadow banned.

That and mods can see and approve those posts, if you are really curious you could pm one of them and see what it was.

But again most of the time its junk.

This comment has been overwritten by an open source script to protect this user's privacy.

If you would like to do the same, add the browser extension TamperMonkey for Chrome (or GreaseMonkey for Firefox) and add this open source script.

Then simply click on your username on Reddit, go to the comments tab, and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top.

Actually, most of the time it's a new user.

However, in the case of this thread, there were 2 hidden comments. One was a new user and one indeed was shadowbanned.

why is the first message say deleted?

I'm sorry to inform you that you've been shadowbanned.

I recommend contacting the reddit admins, good luck.

This looks like a false alarm, but I did have a vaccine post censored by Mr Dong a while back. It was about the 2014 or 2015 flu vaccine being the wrong strain. He stated that he was trying to clean up the sub or some such nonsense like that.

I'll spend time locating the link if anyone is interested.

sorry guys but /r/conspiracy has been corrupt for awhile now. things will become more apparent in time

Its reddit

You're on the wrong site if you want to try and fight the system, this site is the system.

This really seems to be an america-only problem

While I believe that pharmaceutical companies have terrible practices in terms of testing the vaccines, the concept is valid and helped eradicate some of the most deadly diseases, esp. in early infants. Then again, I'm puzzled by the recent outbreak of autism, so there must be definitely something wrong with the vaccines these days (I have also read that it's possible that males becoming fathers in their late 30s, might be the cause, it might be that the sperm is more prone to produce less genetically healthy offspring). I will still, however, vaccinate my child, though I'll make sure to avoid certain manufacturers.

So we're back to vaccines now.

The reason why its classed as spam, is because it is spam. It's just complete and utter garbage reporting. Trying to sell you coconut oil and hemp clothing.

...and you are wrong.

Thanks for your insightful comment.