This has been coming for a long, long time.

Keep the heat on until they set things right or the place burns to the ground, either one.

Interesting, Voat's down as of now.

Servers?

Yeah, they were already struggling under the load when this all started breaking loose.

I thought they go taken down permanently because their hosting provider didn't allow non-politically correct content? It's so hard to tell what's disinformation nowadays because everybody is speculating like it's fact.

they moved to another server after it happened, apparently a direct attack from users or admins from reddit + the ddos attacks after it + their paypal account permanently limited if this is not the act of a group with an agenda, wonder what else it could be

It's stuff like that that worries me. We have literally no idea what's going on behind the scenes. Reddit puts up the atmosphere that it's a homely family place but in actuality it's just as corrupt as the msm. It is the msm now. Apparently they've made connections big enough to influence hosting companies and even paypal. I hope this AMAgeddon thing takes off because if not, we've gotta find a new platform and fast because shit is seriously about to go down in the conspiracy world, the elite are making their moves now. Wouldn't it be convenient if reddit was shut down right at this time?

This is what tends to happen with millions of "users"

Dem clicks.

Suddenly investors have the power.

They let this happen, and I barely blame them... It's the natural order of things when we let capitalism rule.

What now?

We go set off explosives to pretend we're happy about"our independence" from oppression.

Happy Americatime, everybody!

That's what Fascism is. Government and Corporate collusion.

Takes both.

Demclicks unite!

I feel like I just stepped into the thickest haze of mental illness ever in this subreddit. Particularly with how everyone has their own theory or conspiracy, and ya'll affirm one another, but don't really respond

Best of luck.

Could be in the same bed.

The fuck sticks from SRS claimed to be sending harassing messages / (child?) Porn / other disturbing content to Voat, pretending to be new users. Just so that nobody could migrate their from reddit.

Seriously, go to their subreddit and tell me you wouldn't like to string every one of them up by their toenails.

What is wrong with those people? They hate reddit so much that they dedicated an entire subreddit to pointing out how shitty it is yet they don't want anyone to leave and they won't leave themselves? Everyone there sounds like they came from tumblr and should go back immediately.

Bingo. They hate themselves, and everyone around them. No idea how they manage to keep chugging along with that much self hatred flowing through their veins

have a hypothesis. Please bear with me.

A few weeks ago, I saw a post in r/all about this new website called 'voat.com' or something, which is basically like reddit. I didn't bother clicking the link, just scrolling through memes. And now, most subreddits are going private in revolting against (not reallt sure this is the reason) Victoria's getting fired issue.

One of the subreddits I suscribe to, mentioned that since they made their sub, they can go to twitter, facebook for updates, etc. They also mentioned that voat.com is having difficulties managing all the traffic that is coming because of redditors migrating over there.

So, I was just thinking, its kinda funny seeing that post 2wks ago or so introducing that site and now people are almost leaving reddit because of this blackouts. What's the catch? I haven't seen any excuse as to why Victoria was even fired. Does someone want destroy reddit? If yes, who? If not, why aren't they doing something about this?

What are your thoughts?

Voat has been going for longer than a year, it was whoaverse before that.

The same thing happened to reddit with the digg fallout, reddit was unresponsive for days and shitty for weeks if not months. Elastic capacity costs money and to handle a mass exodus requires a hell of a farm.

I can't even mod a FB page properly by myself so I understand what you mean lol

A few weeks ago /r/FatPeopleHate was banned, and hundreds of thousands of users migrated to voat.co, that's why you saw it a few weeks ago.

I read about that but didn't really look into it. Why did they ban it? Was it because of the subcontents and comments?

They said that /r/FatPeopleHate was brigading, idk if that's true or not, but the admins sure as fuck don't stop /r/SRS from brigading

The admins are a funny bunch, eh?

Posts were getting to the front page and they were embarrassed about that IMO.

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Huh. It's just like the plot in Mean Girls. Except that Victoria's awesome.

Hug of death

Try Dojo Press, a site similar to Reddit and Voat. It has a conspiracy subgroup.

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Hardly. A PR shill team running the show? Sounds familiar.

"She does something I don't like! She's a shill!!!"

God does that trope get tired...

And the usual suspects come right out to support the same tired and busted bullshit. Transparent.

"Ha! There are people with consistently opposing viewpoints that I have! That still makes them shills!"

No, transparent idiots who are clearly incapable of using tact and superior arguments. Who spend 8 hours a day, 5 days a week telling a conspiracy forum that conspiracies don't exist. You're fooling no one.

Glad you had to bust out the alt this quickly. Yet another prime example of a tactless fool. (Ed.)

Does my comment history look like I spent all my time shilling around? Hahahaha you have to be trolling.

Hence the need to pull out the alt within minutes. Regardless, the messages of unwaivering support of a PR firm doesn't exactly paint you very positively.

Why the hell does a little bit of celebrity PR in a fucking interview bother you so much? Like, of all the things that concern me in this world, making sure the vanilla celebrities get a couple snowball questions for the sake of pushing the movie/book whatever that they're touring for is the least of my concerns.

I mean sure, the glaringly obvious scam AMAs like Woody and Mr. Freeman stand out as wholly shitty, but that's on them - not Reddit. And even then, why does that matter? What evil agenda is being pushed by shitty phoned in celebrity interviews? It's like you're just getting riled up for the sake of it. Point that energy at things that matter.

Enough for you to publicly stand up for it? Repeatedly? What is your motive for all of this?

Curiosity mostly. A couple paragraphs might give you the impression I'm "passionate" on the subject - but frankly I've just never felt a reason to join in on the Victoria/AMA hate just because every once in a while an AMA has a few snowball questions tossed in for clear promotional reasons. I don't know. Maybe I'm just a "sheeple" being "played". ;-)

To stand so firmly on a single message speaks volumes.

I don't know, you're standing just as firmly on your side of the line without actually responding to my base curiosity (and reason for conversing).

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Those who pay her, sure. The fuck outta here...

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No, it's because "she" (used collectively) is a massive part of every single large PR performance here on Reddit. Frankly, she's as transparent as the ownership. She isn't some beacon of what's right. She's a huge part of the problem.

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As if some cocksucker celebrity can't sit behind their monitor and keyboard just like the rest of us do.

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The fact they have to use such tactics speaks far louder. It's no wonder things have completely gone to shit since making such changes.

You realize she did a lot more than just hold celebrities hands through cushy AMAs right?

That's all that I've found on her (although I truthfully haven't done much research), could you point to some more info on her that backs up your statement?

A lot of the earlier subreddits that also went dark (science, history, movies) relied on her as the go between for all their own AMAs. Personally, I enjoyed the /r/science AMA series that they've had. While they don't rely on the whole "Victoria is here helping me" thing, she has been essential to getting those subreddits up to speed on AMA management, and still frequently was the main source of contact for the AMAers.

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She is the face and nothing more.

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Absolutely unnecessary to claim your voice. Your overenthusiasm kind of sealed the deal here, friend.

She knows the game and plays it. She's a casualty of her own system.

They murdered him

Pedro for CEO!

I think it kind of belittles the cause (reddit admins being dicks) to keep using childish lingo like "Chairman Pao". She sucks as CEO. Can we just use her real name?

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Yeah but it makes everyone look really immature and, like I said, belittles the cause.

When I hear chairman pao I think Far Cry 4 with the dictator dude.

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You're being a dick. I disagree with her being CEO and the admins of reddit but going "She's a big ole meany stupid poopyhead!" makes you look like a child. Bring up valid criticisms and just call her Pao.

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So you're saying you'd like to have sex with her? Okay, then.

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A lot of people suck at their jobs. Hell I'd say I suck at my job, but I try to get better, and I try to do what's right, and that seems (because I don't know the real story... "seem") to be the problem here. Don't call each other names. We are all on the same side here.

Nah. If she deserves to leave she is gonna leave. So no acting like children isn't gonna effect anything. We shouldn't have a restrictions on how we speak. Especially comedic type of content. So if you wanna restrict how someone speaks, then go fuck yourself

You're banned from Chairman Pao's office!

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Done! You'll have to pay it forward.

That's what she is though

/r/impeachellenpao

/r/impeachellenpao

Chairman Pao steps down.

And then what? Another money hungry CEO will take her place and do exactly what advanced publications wants them to.

*CEO Pao, this is a capitalist site running on Capitalist for profit ideals. Call a spade a spade.

We should start flooding Reddit with photoshopped nudes of Pao.

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JUST DO IT!!!

thats what you said when /r/fatpeoplehate was banned. yet youre still here. make up your mind.

That's what you said when /r/fatpeoplehate was banned. Yet you're still here. Make up your mind.

Obvious troll is obvious.

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Bro. I was talking to /u/sawburst, who's comment I quoted.

Unless he is your alternate account?

fuck you

Hey mods, request her to do an AMA here on /r/conspiracy

I really want to buy her a beer.

She's part of the propaganda arm of reddit.

Really?

Yeah, I know this(there were several threads discussing this over the last months) but I really like the idea of the mods standing up to this and not be afraid of the admin team etc.

It's like people forgot about baby steps. Or even change at all!

She was part of the propaganda arm of Reddit. Now she's a former employee and hopefully she's disgruntled enough to want to speak out.

Then maybe Pao will sure her into oblivion and even a crowdfunding like the "greek bailout" won't help her.

I am really trying to understand why she was soooo important. I thought a pillar of reddit was to have the community run itself, and here we have an employee who clearly worked as a PR rep. When guys like karmanaut vouch for her, I think that says enough.

Watch - make careful note of which subs side with this makeshift controversy.

I'm more concerned about the mod here which was in favor of joining the blackout.

Which one?

Assuredly..

Hmm. I'm sure he has his intentions. Overruled anyway it looks like.

I think he is ok. He used to be just a user. I don't know about tape though.

Why?

Back when it was in its infancy, that subreddit was mostly filled with interesting people who had unique jobs or experiences. The more celebrities that wanted to promote their crap, the more of a need there was for someone like Victoria. Will AMA revert to their older format, though? Doubtful.

Of course they're all supportive, but only because she's attractive. No one would give a shit if an uggo (except pao) or a man was fired.

Am I falling for it Jim?

You know much more about the internal drama than I do......

That AMA with JJ is a Real Hoot!!!

Could have Victoria been a perceived threat to Ellen?

threat?

ellen is pond scum compared to Queen Victoria.

Sounds like you'd really like to ask her out....

/r/conspiracy could do with an infrequent but well selected AMA-er sometimes.

Why not?

I was thinking about Jesse Ventura. He'd be perfect for an r/conspiracy AMA.

The James Corbett one was great. He responded with video posts. There was the whole AE911T guy fiasco, though. Mixed bag.

I was looking for a good place to make that suggestion myself.

It seems like most everyone wants to know what really happened. Victoria is the one person who knows exactly what went down.

Who knows what other juicy details we could learn? Victoria could be the Edward Snowden of Reddit. As an insider she would know all about the plans for commercializing the site. Perhaps, she'd be willing to let everyone know what's really going on behind the scenes.

Victoria should do an AMA.

Why not have Victoria do an AMA somewhere?

mjpopcorn.gif

Eat your gossipy hearts out SRD.

If I were an investor this action would scare the shit out of me. AMAs are Reddit's cash cow, and if uppity users can disrupt that its not good news.

I can see admins making changes to how subreddits work so that they get control and prevent this happening again.

They will be signing the site's death warrant if they take the mods power away. Not only will all the mods and many of the users walk, but they will be left with the responsibility of moderating all of the content on the site themselves. Even if they had the manpower to manage all that, it would further drive people away because there would surely be heavy censorship site wide to try to keep the users in control.

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SOMEONE hired her, why aren't we asking for him/her/them to hand back the keys to the castle?

Wasn't it Yishan, the previous ceo who hired her? I'm 95% sure it was. There was weirdness surrounding that also. He broke the nda and made a weird post on reddit, drama ensued.

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How about Advanced Publications' tenor?

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Of course, but I think the original question of "how does removing Pao help?" is valid when the real ownership will replace her with a similar CEO. It's their vision that carries the day for reddit.

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You aren't reading what in typing. Management isn't the problem.

I say good.

As much as mods of many subs have abused their powers, the admins at Reddit have abused the mods for far longer by not providing them the things they need to manage the number of users they have.

If this finally opens up a better dialogue between mods and admins, cool. Chances are it will just further prove how poorly mismanaged this site has become over the past couple of years and the exodus to voat.co will continue.

I don't think people will leave Reddit. It is too hard to restart and quickly have the same breadth and level of content. I'm hopeful that reddit changes because of this, but they have the leverage: they know people don't want to leave, as evident by all the drama. Serious exoduses happen quietly and promptly.

I think they've lost a lot of leverage with the subs going dark. With the mods finally taking a stand; demanding better communication with admins and better tools to mod their subs.

The one theme I seem to notice through the more sane posts I've been lurking is that Reddit has forgotten that it's not the site that makes it money, it's the community. Hopefully the admins can see through the bullshit and understand that.

You're right though, exodus' are sudden. Voat's servers have been fubar for hours now because people want to leave.

When voat gets back up, why isn't /r/conspiracy planning on moving IN ITS ENTIRETY to that site? That's the kind if exodus that actually works, not this weaning off / hanging around to be a part of the drama BS.

I think that's because this place is mostly an echo chamber. Sure, there's some good posts, but there's so little discussion on them. Very little discussion all around. It's a lot easier to just post one line quips & comments than actually elicit a discussion about a topic.

That's circular. It's an echo chamber because people are still here.

People are still here because it's an echo chamber. It's an ouroboros of conspiracy!

except one solves the other and not the other way around.

Oh I agree, the echo chamber can easily migrate- but why bother when it's already so ingrained here?

What I was trying to say, which I did very poorly, is that voat isn't an echo chamber. Since that element isn't there, the people who require it haven't left the one they have.

Once that chamber is established, and it is getting close, then they will feel more comfortable 'contributing' to the discussions.

By they do you mean you?

Nah, I've been over on voat since the whole SLC fiasco and have really enjoyed the discussions I've had. A lot more challenges to critical thinking without condescension and belittling. But I can say the same thing of Digg when Slashdot was suddenly all the rage. I can say the same thing of Reddit while Digg was all the rage. It's just part of the lifecycle of these websites.

Because cost goes down every two days and Im bored. Once they fix it I'll use both and see which one I prefer.

Commit. Exclusive content will drive others.

I meant voat goes down lol. But yeah if it gets better servers and is as good I'll switch.

/r/cowporn has shut its doors. I'm sure all of the 2 subscribers will be heartbroken, but it must be done.

Edit: NO WORRIES EVERYONE. WE HAVE FINALLY DECIDED TO RE-OPEN OUR HUMBLE HOME. PLEASE ENJOY.

Why did I have to find out about this sub NOW?!

I hoped that I could come here for some good information about what might be going on, but it's nothing but more circlejerking.

How is everyone ignoring that this happened just before a major holiday weekend? The same weekend that FBI is warning everyone about.

Something is going to happen soon and I have a feeling that it's going to be big.

I mentioned this last night on suppressing the hive mind for a big event, but I deleted my comment. I still have not ruled this out. July 4th. Weekend. Hmmm.... Guess we'll know at 9am EST tomorrow.

Explain. How is reddit's management incompetence linked to a ... (you fill in the blank)?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI9iYW7VAAAzzJN.png if true wow, but seen this pic floating around

TL;DR : Victoria didn't feel right commercializing AMA and got canned for resisting. (no confirm, just a post floating around)

What does that have to do with a big holiday weekend and the FBI?

It's a theory of his. He sees correlations. This is r/conspiracy. He thinks it's interesting that all this came up before this big holiday and he feels something might be happening. It's called" there's something in the air tonight Great song but an accurate way to say how someone is feeling.

That's great but I'd love to hear an actual theory instead of a prophesy.

I think there's something going on here besides just the AMA liaison being fired. I want to see what's happening in the private mod chats, I don't think we're getting the full story.

Why is /r/videos down? Disseminating information on reddit just got more difficult. Did Victoria have friends in every sub? The response seems strange in scale and form, is all I'm saying.

A nod from my hero!

Is that the real you on voat? With the multiple spaces and the characteristically high-quality submissions?

Hey, here's a theory:

Remember that Ellen Pao is an interim CEO, not permanent. The public hasn't been privy to any information indicating that a search for a permanent CEO is happening in the background...but it may well be.

Could all the recent shitshows (especially FPH and the Darkening, both dramas which appear to have been primarily kicked off in perfect storms by seemingly tone-deaf moves by management/admins), and the inability to improve/appropriately monetize the site just be insurance that no one in their right minds would ever want the permanent position?

This would clear the way for a founder to take over the reigns again, as who else would want to get the sheer level of shit that Pao is receiving?

Who would want to manage a ship that appears rudderless, whose captains don't appear to understand how to steer it?

Maybe a founder who, despite the missteps the public sees, believes he knows how to steer it.

At which time, a few simple, key moves could return the site from chaos, from the influential entertainment and propaganda platform it is now is into an actually highly profitable entertainment and propaganda platform of the future.

Pao as prototypical sacrificial female CEO, y'all. It's a very clichéed, but very, very common technique in the business world.

What is stopping the Admins from removing mods altogether and merely having paid Reddit employees overseeing the subreddits? I can see them moving in that direction in order to resolve the subreddits going private.

I don't think there's THAT much money in reddit? With over 9000 active subs, millions of daily users and posts, there would have to be a lot of employees to oversee it all. And then Pao and her gang wouldn't make as much.

They would just have to find more ways to monetize the site which would make it way worse. Also, they would only have to hire mods for the mAjor subs. I bet that 90+ % of traffic is to r/aww and r/funny

Surprise surprise that /r/news, /r/worldnews and /r/politics haven't joined the protest. Those 3 subs are constantly brought up here for constantly deleting posts that interfere with the mod-shills interests even if they don't break any rules.

So, what if this was the plan all along?

Let's assume that reddit was gaining enough political currency to start "rocking the boat." Thus, something had to be done. Pao gets put in charge, and she now has the job of getting shit put on lock down. Now, this can be done either via censorship, or by just getting the masses to flee, leaving them disorganized. No more Sanders for president, no more annoying "netizens", etc...

Thoughts?

I do not disagree. It's suppressing the hive mind in a way that benefits the elite. It's classic bait and switch if you ask me.

"Oooh, that evil internet woman fired our favorite internet woman. I will unite with the rest of reddit while we stick our heads in the sand in hopes that the evil internet woman goes away." -reddit

Nothing can be determined until we hear from Victoria (/u/chooter) or an admin that has more information. I think what the subs are doing in great and let's the higher ups know that we care about this website and WANT to save it. But it may be too late and the inevitable is, well, inevitable.

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What does her leaving actually accomplish though? Honest question not defending her, just straight up curious what people are hoping to gain out of a CEO leaving?

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What's the voice though? So far it sounds like a rally march,

"What do we want?"

"Pao fired"

"When do we want it?"

"Immediately"

"Why do we want it?"

"..."

Our voice is heard, but what's it actually saying?

Why do we want it part would be pretty long. It doesn't really fit in well with protesting chants. You know that. There are multiple reasons why people want her gone.

You could yell things like

Safe space!

Censorship!

Her history with lawsuits!

Mobile reddit sucks dick !

Out of those 4 items, only the 4th is actually relevant to my user experience on reddit. But I use a 3rd party app which mostly dismisses it.

I'd like to see how long the subs stay private. I doubt Pao will just say "Ok you win I'll step down" seeing how determined she was in her lawsuit.

Just like a Marxist to burn something to the ground rather than give up the power.

How long they stay private is going to be interesting to see. I hope they do so for more than a day or two. At the heart of this is more than Pao or Victoria from what I've read. It looks like this was the pretty large straw that broke the camel's back from the mod-side.

I hope they keep this up for a substantial amount of time on popular subreddits. Their obstruction may not lead to Ellen Pao stepping down or anything remotely close to that but I think it can (and I hope) lead to better dialogue between mods and admins.

She won't talk. Look at the last time someone did from reddit. He got crucified. Cause yushon tore him apart.

Yes but she is gone, fired. Unless there is some weird NDA set up I don't see what would hold her back.

Its not just a nondisclosure agreement or gag order that could prevent her from talking. There's gotta be something else going on (i.e. personal reasons, buy out, etc.) keeping her from coming forwards.

It's too early to jump to conclusions

No its not!

Getting her next job. Reddit user base probably showed how much of a liability she will be for the next company. Hopefully they don't see it that way.

As an employer I would thou.

I would hope she has colleagues at reddit that can vouch for how well she did at her job. Especially all of the celebrities and notable people she has met along the way, there has to be someone that can help her out.

If you think about it, she revolutionized the way (or was part of said revolution) that notable people connected with their fan base. With Reddits use of upvoting, it allowed for these people to do a quasi interview with the masses.

I hope this gives her some credit for future career prospects.

Voat is already flooded lol. Man, this is exciting, I've been saying reddit has been dead for a long time, I was just a little too early

Does voat have a mobile app? I can't seem to find one. If they are going to replace reddit they will need one.

Boats for Voat, for Android.

A broken clock is right twice a day.

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Wat

Don't be too sure

I really wonder what Pao and the Gang are thinking right now.

Do they just laugh at our attempts to protest, knowing that in a few days everything will be forgotten when a few hundred cat pictures reach the front page? Are they scared shitless, aware that if they keep taking this website in their direction we will go in a different direction? I want the latter, but unfortunately Voat is down, so we have no other option.

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5 minutes ago

Victoria (/u/chooter) has deleted her comments on the OutOfTheLoop thread from earlier. /u/waazd

http://i.imgur.com/EwdbsIx.png

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This whole thing started because she was fired, seems somehow relevant to me.

Pao must go

I agree.

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I agree again but to that end, it looks like /r/science just caved.

Typical.

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Methinks they were likely given 'incentive' to reconsider.

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Well don't give up, this is worth fighting for till the last breath.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxoMqs7iGqk

Probably got her to sign a NDA.

I was thinking something along those lines.

You know stuff is shady when they have people sign NDAs when they leave.

I can't even see how that would be legal.

America, corporations are worth more than people Dow here.

Roger that, but it feels like we've been a real Target up here, too lately.

For sure. Canada is turning into America-lite. Sorry, our corruption is contagious.

You owe no more an apology on behalf of the Corporate-Government merger that ails you, (and indeed the world around you) anymore than white blood cells do to the human body doing what little they can to fend off legitimate illness.

Happy Independence day to you sir!

Gee, thanks.

So reddit and voat are now down. The lines of communication are down. Not good, if something important were to happen

Yeah that scares me too... I want voat to come back up.. I'll feel better when voat is back up...

At least we have this place, still. They can't block the new queue, reddit would be truly over and done with if the admins or, god forbid, the mods start censoring legitimate user activity on /r/conspiracy

Potential modtalk leak regarding this incident: http://pastebin.com/akunryxY

AKA the great mod power grab. It's way too obvious that the power mods (who are more despicable than any reddit employee) are using this little hickup with Victoria (who helped streamline celebrity AMAs and make them PR friendly) to grasp at more power when they actually should have less.

Maybe its time for a PodCast ;)

Bring out the masks and ecigs. Fucking idiot dumbass.

/r/ObscureMedia has gone dark

Just curious. Who was up to have an AMA today? And this weekend? I am going to assume, being a holiday weekend in the US, that we will hear that Monday Victoria got her job back.

Who got their AMA silenced by this?

Nobody particularly important: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.reddit.com/r/iama

It's just the principle, I think.

Yup, nobody that looks important. Carry on good folks. Can't blame the jews for this one.

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lol, people are jerking off, surfing facebook, or some other procrastinating, that's it.

https://www.np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3bxhxf/happenings_three_subreddits_have_gone_private/

Big thread here. I think conspiracy should stay open or link to a single thread with the info. People need to be able to see all the shenanigans from somewhere.

Fucking ironic that all main subreddits open up with similar statements all at once.

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Comments on another post 7 hours later....

I made a petition post for /r/funny to be private and it was removed for unclear reasons. Goodbye free speech.

I knew nothing of the person fired (I pay zero attention to /r/IAMA and other similar subreddits) but it is clear to me the festering anger over Reddit going "corporate" has come to a head.

This is the end, my friends... The end. Reddit officially jumped the shark.

I followed one of the twitter hashtags and noticed their is the boilerplater "we heard you and we will make changes" corporate bullshit post.

They DIDN'T hear anyone and they DIDN'T make changes, other than the changes that helped the corporation. Unless Victoria is reinstated and secret santa guy, NOTHING CHANGED.

A lot of us predicted this so... Not too shocking.

For those of you that are upset with the way that Reddit is being run, however still plan on continuing to browse. I highly recommend using Adblock. Also DO NOT buy Reddit Gold. Be mindful that this site gets much of it's revenues from their sponsors.

A lot of the main subs are back up. Gaming is cracking the ban hammer. I think the admins are going round taking control of some subreddits.

It seems like these subs coming back on is being controlled behind the scenes. I mean it's just the flimsiest of excuses these mods are giving IMO. And on top of that, every video on rvideos has something with "Victoria" in the title. Something fishy is going on.

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Let's burn Reddit to the ground. This shithole deserves no better after the assholes moved in. Sorry for being so direct, but it is the truth.

Reddit has been ready for this for a while. But none of the issues were things people could rally around. Removing fat people hate? Hard to do, preaching safes pace? Hard to do. Even if those are legitimate issues on their own they aren't as appealing to the masses. Victoria is a good, nice, respected and known quantity people can rally behind. She is the face people will rally behind because it's finally a face that's not embarrassing to rally behind

Info if anyone wants to read about it more.

Why was /r/IAmA, along with a number of other large subreddits, made private?

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxduw/why_was_riama_along_with_a_number_of_other_large/

And now the tantrum is over, and the front page is filled with a multitude of subreddits, when normally it's strictly Aww, Funny, and Gaming that get to make it

Wow, what a mess.

OK my take. I think Victoria was fired DURING the latest AMA fiasco. I mean like while it was ongoing, in the middle. They told her to put the keyboard aside and leave. Then Pao took over the keyboard - more likely dictated via skype what to type. This is why that AMA took a bizarre turn after a point.

There is no indication that she was fired today so this is as likely as anything else.

the latest AMA fiasco

OOTL. What was that?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bx23y/whats_the_deal_with_the_jesse_jackson_ama/

A date that will be forgotten in a couple of days after its out of the media cycle.

Pao is taking a beating!

http://i.imgur.com/0ZCUopH.jpg

And all her comments

https://www.reddit.com/user/ekjp/comments/

No, for a data to live in infamy; the organization that made that date memorable has to live through it.

I hope Victoria has an alt and posts a "theory",in this sub as a user, that is actually the truth of what exactly went down.

/r/gaming is back up...

i'm in

Someone on this thread mentioned the concept of Hydra when describing sites like reddit. We should work on creating multiple reddit like sites so that Good information can continue to reach people.

Thank you for opening my eyes !

Can anyone ELI5 what is happening? I only just got on Reddit after a few days and am seeing this blackout shit. What's going on?

I hope someone can see this. I've been looking over everything but this all seems sort of weird to me. A few months ago I saw a lot of hate for Victoria because she was the pusher for IAmA. People said that the subreddit became a propaganda house, and that she was nothing special other than to help that propaganda move better.

So she leaves, the propaganda house goes dark, and other subreddits go dark. This is in order to get the admins attention though?

This all seems like some big pile of blah to get Redditors worried about something else, get them in the heat of this debate, but what was going on before this? Where was attention going to, especially from you guys?

Obviously I need clarification and more knowledge, but this just all seems weird to me, something doesn't sit right.

Basically the hate was put toward the wrong person she was pretty against the propaganda take over of iama and after she was fired the people who run iama are now uninvolving the reddit admins due to them (the admins) wanting more propaganda controlhowever who knows how long that will last.

Thanks for the clarification. I heard the admins bypassed the IAmA mods and opened it back up, sort of insane really.

Didn't happen on IAmA, they closed down while deciding on what to do and opened up when they decided to remove admin involvement (which will make pao Very Very unhappy). I think it was /r/pics that might have been but I think that was a hoax (though who knows by this point)

all in all its not getting better check out the new post on news, our message was not heard.

'news'? Can you link the post? I am not sure if you mean /r/news or if there is a news thread about all of this somewhere, I am just not sure if this news post is in a different sub as a submission.. thanks

Yes /r/news lol sorry it was late

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I don't get it. What does 'going private' do?

Going private is a fucking joke. If /r/conspiracy does it, you're showing solidarity to people that fucking hate us. You're better off erasing all the major subs in protest if you're for real about this. Just make sure everything is cached before hand so reddit doesn't make a cent from site hits. I can't believe the bullshit I'm reading here. (/u/illuminatedwax I hope you're reading this)

Can you ELI5 why people are making a big deal over this?

Reddit is a private company, and can fire/hire anyone.

We the community are its most valued asset. In business meetings they talk about pageviews, active users, demographics, basically us. We are reddit's product, being sold to advertisers.

And those maintaining this community, are mods, who are also unpaid, and expected to keep their subs in order.

If suddenly there would be a mass exodus from reddit, their cwhole company collapses.

I think the conspiracy is: Reddit is planning on competing with Facebook but retaining user anonymity. Reddit still has the best commenting system of any bulletin board system out there, which will be key for companies who want to grow, maintain, engage with their customers for both public relations and online marketing purposes.

Keeping anonymity and preserving the commenting system will be critical, since it's a competitive advantage to Facebook's real name policy which tends to "water down" the discussions. Here the discussions tend to be more open and honest—which will be valuable information to advertisers and other organizations alike.

To grow revenue Reddit will welcome new "official" subreddits for corporations, e.g., r/P&G, r/Walmart, /r/Target or media companies e.g., r/Disney, r/Wired that want to advertise/engage with their communities using things like inbound content marketing. Corporate account holders will have access to all user data within their subreddit, which can include business intelligence and analytic capabilities to better improve customer experience and conversion rates. These systems can "talk" to other systems as well using key partners e.g., CRM, IBM Watson, etc.

R/all will be heavily redesigned and sanitized for the larger public—the default settings will exclude certain material i.e., media depicting death, porn, etc. You can still view the material, but you'll need to allow it using a totally redesigned permission settings.

There might be alot of money in self-destructing an internet community as large as Reddit. I don't see how any of this makes any sense otherwise. The shareholders can clearly see how damaging their CEO is for the site. They know they will get paid off by advertisers that know how this will ruin what makes Reddit a good site to begin with.

It's not so that they can make money directly off of reddit users, but the way in that a community of open discussion like this is damaging to the profits of the biggest companies in the long term.

Disorganisation of internet users by closing down open platforms is a good business desicion.

I think the mods are taking themselves waaay too serious. I come here to read, not to be dragged into a childish whinge-fest. Some of my favourite subs are affected and I am not amused.

I really, really don't care about mods.

I am off to VOAT now, because I want to read and be entertained whilst eating. Call me when the infantile strop is over.

Someone please explain to me what is happening? I take a day off reddit, come back and there's bedlam... Madness. Something to to with someone getting the sack and mass 'protest' whats the deal?

Welp, this sub has gone down hill

Servers?

Hug of death

I thought they go taken down permanently because their hosting provider didn't allow non-politically correct content? It's so hard to tell what's disinformation nowadays because everybody is speculating like it's fact.

Of course, but I think the original question of "how does removing Pao help?" is valid when the real ownership will replace her with a similar CEO. It's their vision that carries the day for reddit.

have a hypothesis. Please bear with me.

A few weeks ago, I saw a post in r/all about this new website called 'voat.com' or something, which is basically like reddit. I didn't bother clicking the link, just scrolling through memes. And now, most subreddits are going private in revolting against (not reallt sure this is the reason) Victoria's getting fired issue.

One of the subreddits I suscribe to, mentioned that since they made their sub, they can go to twitter, facebook for updates, etc. They also mentioned that voat.com is having difficulties managing all the traffic that is coming because of redditors migrating over there.

So, I was just thinking, its kinda funny seeing that post 2wks ago or so introducing that site and now people are almost leaving reddit because of this blackouts. What's the catch? I haven't seen any excuse as to why Victoria was even fired. Does someone want destroy reddit? If yes, who? If not, why aren't they doing something about this?

What are your thoughts?

I'm more concerned about the mod here which was in favor of joining the blackout.

A lot of the earlier subreddits that also went dark (science, history, movies) relied on her as the go between for all their own AMAs. Personally, I enjoyed the /r/science AMA series that they've had. While they don't rely on the whole "Victoria is here helping me" thing, she has been essential to getting those subreddits up to speed on AMA management, and still frequently was the main source of contact for the AMAers.

Try Dojo Press, a site similar to Reddit and Voat. It has a conspiracy subgroup.