User posts inconvenient fact to TIL "TIL before 9/11, the credits of Rambo III dedicated the movie to the Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan." Somebody immediately edited the wikipedia article. Redditor chimes in claiming the article is misleading. This is how easy it is to get posts removed.
208 2015-07-17 by [deleted]
They are a crafty bunch, aren't they?
24 comments
28 Portinski 2015-07-17
http://imgur.com/CRaBPOx
"To watch the courageous Afghan freedom fighters battle modern arsenals with simple hand-held weapons is an inspiration to those who love freedom" -Ronald Reagan
10 modelo666 2015-07-17
I love that the US was friends with all it's "enemies" first. Shit is a movie and the public buys it all.
6 benjamindees 2015-07-17
They're our allies!
2 modelo666 2015-07-17
Please some context to this picture, I must know more
1 benjamindees 2015-07-17
Spies Like Us
2 modelo666 2015-07-17
Hollywood has always played a great role in propaganda it amazes me people scoff at the video recently released showing a stuido filming an ISIS mock execution
2 Portinski 2015-07-17
Saddam, Ghaddafi, Bin Laden... they were very close allies of ours and literally over the course of a night, the news and govt starts pandering all kinds of junk about them, which is either false, or they had prior knowledge of.
7 ZobmieRules 2015-07-17
Thankfully it was noticed this time, but that's still disgusting.
3 m0q 2015-07-17
periodically they are caught doing this crap yet nothing changes, the are still there for the next scam against redditors
if you are caught spitting in someone food, then that someone should fucking kick their ass out of here
6 Paulpaps 2015-07-17
My mate still has the vcr. It's dedicated to the taliban. 100%. We laughed many times at it.
4 nolesforever 2015-07-17
That awkward moment when a Rambo movie is dedicated to Bin Laden, so they have to make a new Rambo where he fights ISIS to make up for it.
3 every1wins 2015-07-17
The United States was as late to the war on terrorism as it was to WWII.
1 orrery 2015-07-17
We haven't declared war on Israel yet, so it seems we still haven't.
2 Quantumhead 2015-07-17
When will Israel admit 9/11? Will those guys ever learn the value of honesty?
1 transfire 2015-07-17
Ironically, we lost the Cold War by winning it.
-14 Caster_Oil 2015-07-17
Well, I can't say for sure, but I'd be willing to guess that this was in reference to the Mujahideen fighting the Soviets in the 70s. The Soviets were ruthless to the Afghan people then. Remember, when the Rambo movies were made, the US and Russia were involved in the cold war. You should start by googling the Northern Alliance. The mujahideen became referenced as the Northern Alliance in the 90s.
"Arguably the best-known mujahideen outside the Islamic world, various loosely aligned Afghan opposition groups initially rebelled against the government of the pro-Soviet Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (DRA) during the late 1970s. At the DRA's request, the Soviet Union brought forces into the country to aid the government from 1979. The mujahideen fought against Soviet and DRA troops during the Soviet War in Afghanistan (1979-1989); to which the United States provided assistance, aiding the mujahideen's cause.[11] After the Soviet Union pulled out of the conflict in the late 1980s, the mujahideen fought each other for control in the subsequent Afghan Civil War.[12]"
Learn some history before you make baseless claims about words that have been twisted over decades.
14 iamagod_____ 2015-07-17
Bin Laden was a CIA asset against the Soviets, and a CIA asset against America later. It is YOU who needs to lurn sum histry.
-10 Caster_Oil 2015-07-17
You believe everything you read or see on tv?
5 iamagod_____ 2015-07-17
LOL.
6 UncriticalEye 2015-07-17
That started at the very end of the 1970s, following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in December 1979, literally the last month of the decade, and continued throughout the 1980s (until 1989, when the Soviets left). So, it would be more accurate to say "the Mujahideen fighting the Soviets in the 80s."
Rambo 3 was made in 1988.
And yes, the US openly supported the Mujahideen. It's not a conspiracy. It wasn't secret. It wasn't surprising or unexpected. The vast majority of people in America knew about it and supported it. We considered the Soviets a force of pure evil, and efforts to help the Afghan people resist the Soviet invasion was universally considered a good thing. The mujahideen were the vehicle for that resistance.
All that money and all those arms did come back to bite us in the end, of course, because we funded what became an extremely well trained and well armed bunch of militants. Those militants would go on to fight all over the Middle East, as far as Tunisia and Morocco and many other places. And this was the cauldron from which bin Laden emerged.
For people not familiar with the history, or interested in the history, it's easy to just learn a fact or two and walk away saying "DUH US MADE DEM ALKIDAS!"
1 ConditionDelta 2015-07-17
"The Afghan government requested increasing Soviet military support and eventually direct military involvement. Soviet General Secretary Leonid Brezhnev sent the 40th Army into Afghanistan on December 24, 1979."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan
1 Quantumhead 2015-07-17
Nobody said it was, so you're attacking a straw man argument. What was unexpected is for them to begin claiming, some twelve years later, that these same people were "evil terrorist killers".
1 UncriticalEye 2015-07-17
Nobody claims that. People claim that some terrorists (or if you prefer radicalized militants) emerged from that war, and that is without a doubt.
1 Quantumhead 2015-07-17
Lol. The American CIA were the ones who radicalised them, you bozo. If you bothered to learn some history you'd probably know that already.
1 UncriticalEye 2015-07-17
How do you think the CIA radicalized them? Can you describe, in detail, the process? It sounds like you have learned quite a bit of history, so I am hoping you will be willing to share.
1 Quantumhead 2015-07-17
I personally really enjoy it when ignorant people try to be sarcastic.
"Central to the US-sponsored operation was the attempt to manufacture an extremist religious ideology by amalgamating local Afghan feudal traditions with Islamic rhetoric."
AHMED, NAFEEZ MOSADDEQ, 2005, The War On Truth: 9/11, Disinformation And The Anatomy Of Terrorism. Moreton-In-Marsh, Gloucestershire, England: Arris Publishing Ltd.
3 m0q 2015-07-17
periodically they are caught doing this crap yet nothing changes, the are still there for the next scam against redditors
if you are caught spitting in someone food, then that someone should fucking kick their ass out of here
5 iamagod_____ 2015-07-17
LOL.
1 UncriticalEye 2015-07-17
Nobody claims that. People claim that some terrorists (or if you prefer radicalized militants) emerged from that war, and that is without a doubt.