User posts inconvenient fact to TIL "TIL before 9/11, the credits of Rambo III dedicated the movie to the Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan." Somebody immediately edited the wikipedia article. Redditor chimes in claiming the article is misleading. This is how easy it is to get posts removed.

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They are a crafty bunch, aren't they?

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http://imgur.com/CRaBPOx

"To watch the courageous Afghan freedom fighters battle modern arsenals with simple hand-held weapons is an inspiration to those who love freedom" -Ronald Reagan

I love that the US was friends with all it's "enemies" first. Shit is a movie and the public buys it all.

Please some context to this picture, I must know more

Hollywood has always played a great role in propaganda it amazes me people scoff at the video recently released showing a stuido filming an ISIS mock execution

Saddam, Ghaddafi, Bin Laden... they were very close allies of ours and literally over the course of a night, the news and govt starts pandering all kinds of junk about them, which is either false, or they had prior knowledge of.

Thankfully it was noticed this time, but that's still disgusting.

periodically they are caught doing this crap yet nothing changes, the are still there for the next scam against redditors

if you are caught spitting in someone food, then that someone should fucking kick their ass out of here

My mate still has the vcr. It's dedicated to the taliban. 100%. We laughed many times at it.

That awkward moment when a Rambo movie is dedicated to Bin Laden, so they have to make a new Rambo where he fights ISIS to make up for it.

The United States was as late to the war on terrorism as it was to WWII.

We haven't declared war on Israel yet, so it seems we still haven't.

When will Israel admit 9/11? Will those guys ever learn the value of honesty?

Ironically, we lost the Cold War by winning it.

Well, I can't say for sure, but I'd be willing to guess that this was in reference to the Mujahideen fighting the Soviets in the 70s. The Soviets were ruthless to the Afghan people then. Remember, when the Rambo movies were made, the US and Russia were involved in the cold war. You should start by googling the Northern Alliance. The mujahideen became referenced as the Northern Alliance in the 90s.

"Arguably the best-known mujahideen outside the Islamic world, various loosely aligned Afghan opposition groups initially rebelled against the government of the pro-Soviet Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (DRA) during the late 1970s. At the DRA's request, the Soviet Union brought forces into the country to aid the government from 1979. The mujahideen fought against Soviet and DRA troops during the Soviet War in Afghanistan (1979-1989); to which the United States provided assistance, aiding the mujahideen's cause.[11] After the Soviet Union pulled out of the conflict in the late 1980s, the mujahideen fought each other for control in the subsequent Afghan Civil War.[12]"

Learn some history before you make baseless claims about words that have been twisted over decades.

Bin Laden was a CIA asset against the Soviets, and a CIA asset against America later. It is YOU who needs to lurn sum histry.

You believe everything you read or see on tv?

LOL.

the Mujahideen fighting the Soviets in the 70s.

That started at the very end of the 1970s, following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in December 1979, literally the last month of the decade, and continued throughout the 1980s (until 1989, when the Soviets left). So, it would be more accurate to say "the Mujahideen fighting the Soviets in the 80s."

Rambo 3 was made in 1988.

And yes, the US openly supported the Mujahideen. It's not a conspiracy. It wasn't secret. It wasn't surprising or unexpected. The vast majority of people in America knew about it and supported it. We considered the Soviets a force of pure evil, and efforts to help the Afghan people resist the Soviet invasion was universally considered a good thing. The mujahideen were the vehicle for that resistance.

All that money and all those arms did come back to bite us in the end, of course, because we funded what became an extremely well trained and well armed bunch of militants. Those militants would go on to fight all over the Middle East, as far as Tunisia and Morocco and many other places. And this was the cauldron from which bin Laden emerged.

For people not familiar with the history, or interested in the history, it's easy to just learn a fact or two and walk away saying "DUH US MADE DEM ALKIDAS!"

following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in December 1979,

"The Afghan government requested increasing Soviet military support and eventually direct military involvement. Soviet General Secretary Leonid Brezhnev sent the 40th Army into Afghanistan on December 24, 1979."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan

And yes, the US openly supported the Mujahideen. It's not a conspiracy. It wasn't secret. It wasn't surprising or unexpected.

Nobody said it was, so you're attacking a straw man argument. What was unexpected is for them to begin claiming, some twelve years later, that these same people were "evil terrorist killers".

Nobody claims that. People claim that some terrorists (or if you prefer radicalized militants) emerged from that war, and that is without a doubt.

Nobody claims that. People claim that some terrorists (or if you prefer radicalized militants) emerged from that war, and that is without a doubt.

Lol. The American CIA were the ones who radicalised them, you bozo. If you bothered to learn some history you'd probably know that already.

How do you think the CIA radicalized them? Can you describe, in detail, the process? It sounds like you have learned quite a bit of history, so I am hoping you will be willing to share.

How do you think the CIA radicalized them? Can you describe, in detail, the process? It sounds like you have learned quite a bit of history, so I am hoping you will be willing to share.

I personally really enjoy it when ignorant people try to be sarcastic.

"Central to the US-sponsored operation was the attempt to manufacture an extremist religious ideology by amalgamating local Afghan feudal traditions with Islamic rhetoric."

AHMED, NAFEEZ MOSADDEQ, 2005, The War On Truth: 9/11, Disinformation And The Anatomy Of Terrorism. Moreton-In-Marsh, Gloucestershire, England: Arris Publishing Ltd.

periodically they are caught doing this crap yet nothing changes, the are still there for the next scam against redditors

if you are caught spitting in someone food, then that someone should fucking kick their ass out of here

LOL.

Nobody claims that. People claim that some terrorists (or if you prefer radicalized militants) emerged from that war, and that is without a doubt.