What if GPS isn't really satellite based? Just an idea, but could be true.
0 2015-07-20 by [deleted]
So, I have been looking up the Flat Earth Theory and it totally makes sense. One of the arguments Against it however is GPS wouldn't work because satellites wouldn't orbit. So I started thinking, what if GPS is actually a ground based system, and for some reason they are lying to us about GPS. Scary I know. Anyway what is your guy's input?
29 comments
12 orrery 2015-07-20
I would like to be the first to advocate that if you ever meet a flat earther in real life - do them a favor and give them a lobotomy since they aren't using their brains anyways it won't be missed.
6 thc1967 2015-07-20
Question:
What is the maximum distance we should be able to see out across the flat planet, given no intervening obstructions? Consider as you answer this that we are capable of viewing visible light cast from objects in space that are approximately 13 billion light years (a quite unfathomable number of miles) distant, so clearly light travels pretty far.
-14 Throwthispiss 2015-07-20
Even if the earth wasn't flat, it is totally possible GPS isn't real. I mean we don't know, we've never seen it.
13 Balthanos 2015-07-20
You can observe satellites with your naked eye.
-12 registereduser2 2015-07-20
FTFY.
10 Balthanos 2015-07-20
They don't look like specs of light when they transverse the moon.
-10 metabolix 2015-07-20
They do. Maybe you should get a telescope.
7 Balthanos 2015-07-20
Can I have yours?
6 thc1967 2015-07-20
Why would you want his? It's so inadequate that it can't even focus enough on the ISS as it traverses the moon to see that it's not just a random round blob.
5 Balthanos 2015-07-20
Free telescope? I mean, come on.
2 DethFiesta 2015-07-20
Ignore him. Butthurt Flat Earther.
-4 metabolix 2015-07-20
No. Get your own.
1 steeziewondah 2015-07-20
Maybe YOU should get a telescope to see that you are lying.
11 why_am_i_itchy 2015-07-20
If you can't propose an actual working model that could reconcile the behavior of gps with a ground based transmitter system, then this is all totally pointless. It is blatantly obvious that you have no technical knowledge regarding the operation of satellite based communications and therefore have no insight to offer on the subject.
We can all come up with a metric shit ton of 'what if?' scenarios, but without any actual supporting evidence they are all USELESS. Your idea is preposterous and no one is going to be interested in it unless you do some actual research and develop a theory to actually EXPLAIN how it could be possible.
6 thc1967 2015-07-20
I can't see radio waves either, but sure as shit when there's a baseball game on and I pull out my little yellow transistor radio, I hear the broadcast team calling the game.
That pretty much works just like the GPS I've used as just a GPS device and now on my phone. I pull out the device and poof magical waves of energy communicate to the device, which changes those magical waves of energy into something I can comprehend.
Are radio waves not real? Did they find a way to stuff Dan & Jim into that little 1.5" by 6" by 3.5" yellow box to talk to me every now and again?
Oh, and you didn't answer my question. Here it is again:
-3 metabolix 2015-07-20
You might want to look up vanishing point. It goes out into infinity, but to the eye it exponentially decreases and resolves into a line we see as the horizon.
7 thc1967 2015-07-20
You didn't give me a number. Please give me a number.
Please also assume I have at my disposal the absolute best optics available - the best telescope here on the planet.
Give me a number in miles or kilometers - how far should I be able to see?
Thanks.
-2 metabolix 2015-07-20
The Philadelphia skyline from 60 miles away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgur5EKboLY
So we know you should be able to see at least 60 miles away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLlNKy5j_O8
4 glymph 2015-07-20
It's 36 miles between Apple Pie Hill and Philly, and Apple Pie Hill is 205 feet tall with a 60-metre tall tower on top, which that photograph could easily have been taken from.
Doing the maths on height and the curvature of the earth you can easily see this far from this high.
3 no1113 2015-07-20
Have you ever seen an emotion? Have you ever seen love or hate? No. What you've seen are the effects and manifestations of it.
Have we ever seen an atom, let alone a quark? No. Do we know they exist? Yes.
We often know about the existence of things not because of our having actually seen the things themselves, but because of our understanding of the effects those things are having on the things around them.
3 sep11insidejob 2015-07-20
So every planet we see and the sun, moon, etc are round. Except the earth? How does that make sense?
2 Terex80 2015-07-20
I believe that they are meant to be lights. Or something
-9 metabolix 2015-07-20
If we haven't even been to the moon, you have to doubt even if just a little.
6 papipapichulo 2015-07-20
Not really
3 joinedforthis 2015-07-20
This can't be serious.
-4 konspirate 2015-07-20
GPS uses ground based technology designed by the military.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNHnU48E-MI
Probably s̶t̶o̶l̶e̶n̶ borrowed from Nicola Tesla.
5 DethFiesta 2015-07-20
Then how does it work in the middle of the ocean ?
-1 konspirate 2015-07-20
I definitely don't have all the answers. But if navigational systems were around before GPS, then you could say that GPS is just an enhanced ground system. A computerized ground system with great graphics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byTJk9E4_Bc
3 BoojumG 2015-07-20
Sure, just like I could say that cars are just enhanced horses. What are they hiding from us about the secret equine nature of automobiles? How did they twist horses into this unnatural shape? I definitely don't have all the answers. I bet it was flouride though.