Questions about Sandy Hook

0  2015-07-29 by Ci_sees_seas

r/conspirators, I have just been curious about the Sandy Hook shootings. I have heard from some friends that think Obama may have staged the situation and that they cannot find any recent information regarding it. Just wondering what actually may (or may not) be happening.

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Well the site was cordoned off to not only keep people out, but to keep people from even seeing in. Then they brought in a lot of machinery and pulverized every square inch and shipped it off in all directions.

Sounds perfectly normal right?

Right. And I also can't seem to find much on what happened to the victims either.

They were shot and killed.

Yup. Most, if not all files are sealed. Nothing to see here plebs.....

Most, if not all files are sealed.

Total bullshit

Close to a gigabyte of data in 840 PDF files, and that's not including audio files, over 10 hours of mobile video, several hours of on-site video, another gig of photos. None of it sealed.

And the hoax proponents have... "Well, the site was cordoned off". LOL.

Excuse me, but where is the video of Adam Lanza walking in? You know there was security video, correct? Let's see him walking in, with rifles a blazing and full body gear. If you don't got that, GTFO. Let's also demolish his home and the school, because that is normal.... What hazmat team cleaned the school up?

You know there was security video, correct?

No there wasnt. The only security at the door was a intercom buzzer installed in 2006. If it had video, like an Aiphone intercom, it would have only shown the outer doorway. Lanza shot his way though a window next to the door.

Watch the video:

http://sandyhookanalysis.blogspot.com/2015/04/halbig-debunked-sandy-hook-school.html

And here we see the typical Sandy Hoaxer at work. Make a claim, then when that is thoroughly debunked, never acknowledge you were wrong, just move on to the next spurious allegation.

where is the video of Adam Lanza walking in? You know there was security video, correct?

As /u/treerat has already pointed out, no, there was no security video. The sole video capability was an entryphone which had no recording capability.

How do I know this? From the files (see p.17) you claimed were sealed! You might as we claim the Revolutionary War didn't happen because "Sofia Smallstorm" doesn''t have video footage of it in her crappy YouTube videos.

Moving on.

and full body gear.

Except he wasn't: "Adam Lanza went into the Sandy Hook Elementary School wearing a utility vest, not a bullet proof vest, state police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance said Thursday. "It was a fishing type vest, a jacket with a lot of pockets; it was not a bullet-proof vest," Vance said."

Let's also demolish his home and the school, because that is normal

Yes, it is normal for notorious crime scenes to be demolished: John Wayne Gacy's house, Ted Dahmer's house, the Heaven's Gate mass suicide building, all were torn down. So too was Ariel Castro's house. Even among school massacres, this wasn't a first, and that article explains why:

In addition to concern for the victims’ families, those considering the school’s fate “realized it could be very traumatic for the children, that it might just be too hard for the children who were in there to go back,” said Herman Bontrager, a businessman who is a friend of some Amish church leaders in the area. The experience of last weekend, when tourists and well-wishers clogged roads trying to get a glimpse of the schoolhouse, made the decision all the easier. “This past Sunday it was just bumper-to-bumper out there,” said David Nissley, a Mennonite pastor. “They’d like to reduce the tourism it creates.”"

As for the house, they demolished it more than two years after the event. Not exactly in a rush to cover things up, were they?

What hazmat team cleaned the school up?

Clean Harbors, Inc cleaned Sandy Hook as listed in Book 2, file 198991.pdt.

Aftermath Specialists did Yogananda. See Book 2, file 198985.pdf

You can also see this PDF for more specifics.

Funnily, enough, all this information is also to be found in the files you wrongly claim were "sealed". I guess "reading" isn't high on the list of skills for Sandy Hoaxers.

Now, are you going to continue digging yourself a deeper hole with additional false claims? Or maybe better just cut your losses here? For there was literally not a word of truth in your last post.

Holy God, I don't think I've ever seen a more definitive ass-kicking in my life. Thank you.

Now let's see how OP responds. He came in asking questions and was presented two kinds of responses: paranoid, lunatic bulkshit without a shred of accuracy, and detailed, thoughtful, and factual comments like yours. Which will he find more compelling? Who will he decide is the real Truth Teller?

right, like with the pentagon...pics or it didn't happen (at least in places where we know there are cameras)

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So you are going to be that guy? Why is there always someone claiming to be a friend of the families friend in the Sandy Hook threads? Also, which family?

Wasn't this a game about Kevin Bacon or some shit?

My condolences. I may be prying too much but I just believe there is so much that is not being said to the public at large.

My dads friend who used to live in Connecticut claimed to work with a guy who's kid died in the shooting. My brother called bullshit and all hell broke loose. I'm certain it was a false flag with crisis actors and all but Idk if there were real victims or not. I don't think they would hesitate to kill people in a false flag.

Dude...stop using that term. You don't know what it means.

It's a covert operation to deceive people. Tell me what it means.

You've only got half of the definition! False flags are "covert operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them". You are oversimplifying what a false flag is. The term means something very specific, and you are trying to use it as a catch all term for any shadowy event.

Okay... So they are appearing to be carried out by lone gunmen?

Let me spell it out for you: If the American government directed a CIA/FBI/NSA/DHS employee to carry out an attack dressed as a muslim, and the agent carried out the attack screaming "Allah Ackbar" and "Death to America", and then the American government releases a statement that ISIS carried out the attack. THAT would be a false flag.

The term comes from naval warfare. Think of how an old pirate ship could fly the flag of France, disguising itself as a French merchant vessel, to get close enough to fire on another French vessel without raising suspicion. At the last moment, the pirate ship lowers the FALSE FLAG of France and raises the Jolly Roger flag while also running out their guns. THAT is LITERALLY the source of the term. It has nothing to do with hoaxes or MKULTRA. It is a very specific kind of shady operation with a very specific cause and effect. You keep using the term to describe any kind of hoax or black op. That is not the definition of the term however.

K it's a hoax you win lol

There you go. Now you can call it what you think it is without being misunderstood.

This is the SECOND thread about Sandy Hook to appear in the last 2 days. They pretend to not know anything about it and want to start up a dialog. Then, the shills appear and direct the conversation. Stop feeding the trolls!

Watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD0z275nQnM

There is a lot of information on Sandy Hook.

First, watch the documentary, "we need to talk about sandy hook".

memoryholeblog.com has a good article on a lot of witnesses, and first responders who either died mysteriously or have retired after the event.

Also, watch Wolfgang Halbig's foia hearings on the youtube channel "Mert Melfa". The Newtown police department and school district's inability to answer basic questions about the school and the police response shows that these institutions are corrupt and are likely involved in some aspect of perpetrating or covering up the event.

And, yes, some people know the alleged victim's parents. They are real people who probably lived in the town for a few years to add credibility to the story.

While there are people who don't believe the story because they knew a family member of a victim, there are also people who claim to know a victim's family member that believe(or are open to the idea that) that the event was a hoax.

The documentary "We Need to Talk About Sandy Hook" consists of hopelessly confused morons babbling for three hours. James Tracy is a nut and his blog is dog shit. Wolf got everything he asked for at FOIA and is whining that he still can't prove a damn thing because there's nothing to prove. Complete failures, all of them. And to this day, not a single shred of evidence that that hoax was perpetrated. Not one thing.

I wouldn't pin anything on Obama, as he's only a pawn of the Elite (as I like to call them) and is being used to further their agenda. What the 'Elite' want to accomplish involves disarming the American people so there can be absolutely no opposition when shit eventually hits the fan. Sandy Hook was one of the many gun "tragedies" that were meant to sway the public's opinion on the topic of gun control. It's easier to strip the gun owners of their right to own a firearm when guns are easily accessible to these supposed "mass shooters." Only problem is there are major discrepancies in Sandy Hook, Aurora theater shooting, ect. and people with half a brain are starting to catch on. Now whether or not these discrepancies are intentional to weed out the enlightened is yet to be determined, but that's the gist of it.

IIRC Obama did make a motion indicating that there was a tear in his eye. I made a recent post on the updates to the graves.

there was speculation that whatever was in or not in the graves woulkd settle the matter. possibly ground penetrating radar has been done, but since the discussion, graves have been modified and added.