Bombshell: CDC destroyed vaccine documents, Congressman reveals. This calls into question every single CDC study that claims vaccines are safe.
232 2015-07-31 by axolotl_peyotl
“…the [CDC] co-authors scheduled a meeting to destroy documents related to the [MMR vaccine] study. The remaining four co-authors all met and brought a big garbage can into the meeting room and reviewed and went through all the hard copy documents that we had thought we should discard and put them in a huge garbage can.” (William Thompson, CDC researcher)
On July 29, US Congressman Bill Posey made his last stand on the floor of the House.
Granted five minutes to speak, he laid bare the lying of the CDC in a now-famous 2004 study that exonerated the MMR vaccine and claimed it had no connection to autism.
“No connection to autism” was the lie.
Congressman Posey read a statement from long-time CDC researcher William Thompson, one of the authors of the 2004 Pediatrics study designed to determine, once and for all, whether the Measles-Mumps-Rubella vaccine could cause autism.
Thompson saw and participated in violating the protocol of the study. He was there. He helped his co-authors destroy documents that would have shown an MMR-autism link.
You can see a rush transcript of Congressman Posey’s remarks here (on the ageofautism.com website), which includes his reading of a statement from whistleblower Thompson.
Posey pleads with his colleagues for a Congressional investigation.
Of note: two of the CDC researchers on the infamous 2004 study, who according to Thompson, destroyed vital documents, are Coleen Boyle and Frank DeStefano. They are both high-ranking executives at the CDC in the area of vaccine safety.
This calls into question every single CDC study, under their tenure, that claims vaccines are safe.
CDC whistleblower Thompson’s statement, which Posey read on the House floor, includes this bombshell:
“However, because I [Thompson] assumed it [destroying the documents] was illegal and would violate both FOIA and DOJ requests, I kept hard copies of all documents in my office and I retained all associated computer files. I believe we intentionally withheld controversial findings from the final draft of the Pediatrics paper.”
Thompson has the smoking-gun documents. So does Congressman Posey. I believe others do as well.
So: publish them. Publish them now.
There are lawsuits to be filed. Eleven years have passed since the CDC committed its crime of concealing the MMR vaccine-autism connection. How many parents, never informed of the truth, have permitted their children to receive this vaccine? How many children have been struck down by the vaccine?
The lawsuits should be filed against the CDC and the individual authors of the 2004 study. Lawyers must depose every CDC employee who had knowledge of the crime.
And what about the fact that the MMR vaccine is one of the shots that has been mandated, by law, in California, in other states, and in Australia?
Mandating neurological destruction of children is a crime that must be investigated and punished. If these states (and other countries) insist on keeping the MMR on their schedules, they are guilty parties.
Here, for background, are earlier articles I wrote about whistleblower Thompson, starting when the story broke in the summer of 2014.
Understand what we are dealing with here, in terms of public exposure: the author of a peer-reviewed and published study; the author who has worked for many years at the CDC; the author who participated in destruction of vital documents; the author has come forward and admitted his crime and the crime of his colleagues. This kind of confession never happens.
But it did happen.
And this story and what it means must not die, no matter how major media outlets try to spin it or ignore it.
Parents who are, in ignorance, allowing their children to receive the MMR vaccine, must be informed. They must know what is going on. They must know the danger to their children.
Australia, Canada, England, New Zealand, Germany, France, India, China, South Africa…wherever the MMR vaccine is given…parents must be made aware they’re gambling with their children’s lives.
Government officials anywhere in the world who make this continuing crime possible are liable.
So are manufacturers of the MMR.
Get busy. Expose the truth.
107 comments
21 Thothx3 2015-07-31
Push this out!
The American people deserve the full truth BEFORE they are mandated to submit to poisonous injections.
18 dukey 2015-07-31
Haha, Americans are fully invested in the lie. Not even the truth would derail that.
3 tinroof-rusted 2015-07-31
Reddit is all over that bandwagon too. And its the same shit.
1 tehgreatblade 2015-07-31
You have to believe strongly in a lie for it to subvert the truth. This is because the truth is always there, always apparent.
1 sebastiansly 2015-07-31
Parents dont want to admit they are poisoning their children. Better to defend a lie then admit fault.
12 axolotl_peyotl 2015-07-31
I try not to be pessimistic about this stuff, but at this point in the game, the American people pretty much deserve what's coming to them.
Children, however, should never be punished for their parent's ignorance or apathy.
14 AlwaysTurning 2015-07-31
hey I'm in America and I've been speaking out about this stuff since I was 11. If other countries every decide to intervene in our foreign policy and the like I really hope they come in knowing that there are many people stuck here that haven't supported the actions.
1 Cgimarelli 2015-07-31
Ditto! I'm also American and have been speaking out about it. We are definitely around; although, few and far between.
0 tehgreatblade 2015-07-31
It kind of sucks that we are affected by the actions of those we have nothing to do with, and are completely different from. That's the nature of a nation.
8 TimeIsBunk 2015-07-31
Some of us in America are screaming mad about this entire fucked up system of control and activley fight against it, but sadly we are easily discounted by being labeled tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorists or racist confederate flag waiving Republicans. It's incredibly depressing when you think about it too long. Intelligence and critical thinking fled our zeitgeist long ago, but we don't all deserve it.
5 bobbyboner1982 2015-07-31
Being a parent it's scary as hell to pick wrong there is so much crap from both sides about this subject.... my girl is due for mmr shot in a couple months
15 Flytape 2015-07-31
Ask for 3 separate vaccines, refuse the MMR combo vaccine.
Pay the extra cost 100-200 dollars to get vaccinated for measles, wait a month then get the stand alone mumps vaccine, wait a month then get the stand alone rubela vaccine.
You have more options than being ignorantly anti-vax or ignorantly pro-vax.
I hope this helps.
Better yet, don't even follow my advice. Go look up all the options and risks for yourself. Make an informed decision. Be your own master.
6 lucycohen 2015-07-31
The Mumps vaccine is the one which Merck faked the efficacy tests for, it's far better just to catch the Mumps and be left immune for life.
Measles is not a concern for those who are healthy and well-nourished, Vitamin A is the key for combating Measles.
If a pregnant woman were to catch Rubella in the first Trimester, she should look to stay on top of her Vitamin A, this will protect the unborn.
-8 brunes 2015-07-31
This is such an irresponsible comment. When your little shit gives the mumps to someone else's baby who COULD NOT get vaccinated due to an immunity compromise and that baby dies, I hope you feel great about yourself. Not all decisions are about me myself and I. Herd immunity is why vaccines work.
11 th3h0lytr1n1ty 2015-07-31
I love this anti-human perspective you fake liberals and pseudo conservatives pull. If the other kids are vaccinated they run very little to ( its been proven vaccines are less than 90% effective...) no risk of getting the disease. Since kids who were just vaccinated shed the virus i would be more worried about them. "Little shit" right because children who don't get stabbed with syringes full of formaldehyde and virus dna are definitely not human beings whose lives are important.
Vaccine induced Polio:
http://m.cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/49/8/1287.full
Feccia Fascista
5 lucycohen 2015-07-31
Hello brunes,
So it seems you're rather new to this topic, you believe Mumps is as deadly as Ebola, you are also unaware that the Merck scientists involved with making the Mumps vaccine have blown the whistle that Merck forced them to fake the efficacy tests by adding animal antibodies, this is because the vaccine doesn't work and should never have been allowed on the market.
Keep in mind the Mumps vaccine is live virus, this means it spreads the disease itself.
I understand that you're either simply repeating something you heard from one of the paid pharmaceutical propagandists, or that you are one of the paid pharmaceutical propagandists, whatever the answer is I would strongly recommend that you refrain from posting such irresponsible comments given that it's now been admitted that the MMR vaccine is causing Autism, by CDC whistleblowers who were part of the cover-up. Autism is lifelong and leaves children is a total mess, whereas Mumps is short-term and so mild that most people don't even know they've got it. That's why the late Dr Maurice Hilleman (former Merck Vaccine Chief) once remarked that it would be ludicrous to ever create a vaccine for such as mild illness as Mumps.
Have a lovely day!
2 monamala1 2015-07-31
Agreed and it's not vaccines people should be worried about its food. The stuff I spray for nematodes at my job is immensely dangerous.
5 dukey 2015-07-31
In most places you can't get separate vaccines, it's simply not an option.
3 lucycohen 2015-07-31
In the UK they removed them from the market once people started asking for them to avoid MMR.
3 Creepella_the_third 2015-07-31
Sadly they dont make a separate vaccine any more. They want to take away the right to choose. Its all or none.
1 bobbyboner1982 2015-07-31
Thank you this does help.... I just don't wanna be the one that picks wrong and live with that forever
1 lafeeverte17 2015-07-31
Please don't suggest this to people.
If the issue is the ethylmercury and aluminum in vaccines, you are basically telling them to triple their exposure to neurotoxins.
9 lucycohen 2015-07-31
" it's scary as hell"
That's the fearmongering, the pharmaceuticals use it for marketing purposes, they want to scare you into buying their products, don't fall for it. The human race would have been wiped out thousands of years ago if we depended on vaccines, our bodies know exactly how to look after themselves, vaccines are a relatively new thing. Studies show the countries which give the most vaccines have the worst infant mortality rates.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/
6 OWNtheNWO 2015-07-31
Reading the safety insert will safely shift the fear of not doing it to the fear of doing it.
1 lucycohen 2015-07-31
Absolutely, that's why they make the writing so small
3 Flytape 2015-07-31
Also... fear is the mind killer.
1 bobbyboner1982 2015-07-31
I agree but when it comes to my 8 month old.little girl I am afraid I don't want her to suffer because her dad is weak... if it was for me I wouldn't be as worried
3 lf11 2015-07-31
There is very little harm in delaying vaccination.
-5 lucycohen 2015-07-31
Most the pro-vaxx people are just paid to post propaganda, the MMR is one of the most dangerous jabs, I'd strongly recommend you don't risk leaving your little girl neurologically disabled. There are no diseases worth worrying about in the First World, whereas vaccines they carry serious risks. Here are two expert doctors who have not sold out to Big Pharma, they both explain why no vaccine is worth the risk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFQQOv-Oi6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVE2l2RJ8lY
I've watched so many parents see their child go vaccine-disabled e.g. Diabetes Type 1, Regressive Autism, Asthma, Motor Neurone Disease, MS, Muscle Wasting Diseases etc. These are the real things to be scared of, we shouldn't be scared of catching spots for one week and having a runny nose, that's not a real problem. The pharmaceuticals want you sick for life with a vaccine-induced disease, that way they get to sell you drugs for life.
8 That_Guy381 2015-07-31
This coming from the guy who said gay people come from stuff in the water.
-1 tehgreatblade 2015-07-31
There are estrogen-similiar chemicals in the water. How could this not have an effect on the growth of homosexuality?
1 Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2015-07-31
How in the world would it?
0 Levie09 2015-07-31
Sexual orientation is not correlated to estrogen/any other hormone production.
1 tehgreatblade 2015-07-31
But man boobs and small dick and balls are.
1 Levie09 2015-07-31
I have a feeling (and hope) that you know this is irrelevant
1 tehgreatblade 2015-07-31
I think it's retarded to think chemicals in the water have no effect on the brain.
1 Levie09 2015-07-31
I'm sure they do. Estrogen and Estrogen like compounds most certainly affect the brain and body in a variety of ways. Homosexuality is just not at all correlated to estrogen levels in the body.
-1 That_Guy381 2015-07-31
Unbiased well known source? ie not some random blog.
1 tehgreatblade 2015-07-31
Well known and unbiased, pick one.
1 That_Guy381 2015-07-31
How about CNN? What are they biast towards?
1 tehgreatblade 2015-07-31
Obvious bullshit?
1 That_Guy381 2015-07-31
No seriously. Are they in the pockets of our corporate overlords?
0 joinedforthis 2015-07-31
You again.
2 paganmanintruth 2015-07-31
So do Australians and anyone else who has been manipulated through the "logical fallacies" thrust upon us each and every hour of each and every day...
13 ohboyohboyohboy 2015-07-31
Your "Source" is a blog.
5 we_kill_creativity 2015-07-31
So what? What's your point? What's untrue about the information? Did the whistleblower say the study ignored certain data? Yes. Did the congressman speak about it? Yes. So again... What's your point?
-1 ohboyohboyohboy 2015-07-31
Your source is a blog.
-2 [deleted] 2015-07-31
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7 we_kill_creativity 2015-07-31
It's a news story you idiot. It isn't a scientific study requiring years of study. Two people did things. It's reporting that two people did things. It doesn't take years of study to report that two people did things. Again, you're an idiot.
4 Wood_Warden 2015-07-31
Did you not read the article? It comes from a hearing, that can be watched on CSPAN. They give you the source. http://www.c-span.org/video/?327309-1/us-house-morning-hour&live
5 Wood_Warden 2015-07-31
A blog, which discusses what happened in a hearing, which can be watched on CSPAN. Just because other media establishments won't touch this with a 100 foot pole, doesn't mean others won't. Pharma is a huge part of MSMedia's advertising revenue. This blog (and other sites) are doing exactly what reporters/journalists should.
2 Bonki_ 2015-07-31
Here's a paper from Pace University's Law School: Unanswered Questions from the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program: A Review of Compensated Cases of Vaccine-Induced Brain Injury
1 joinedforthis 2015-07-31
Par for the course
1 SistaSabuda 2015-07-31
Do you have autism or something? Six years on Reddit and all you do is play the contrary card. You appear to be an arrogant asshole who does nothing but disagree with everything anyone posts and have nothing to offer in any regard. Based on that fact, id say your opinion is pretty worthless; as troll opinions aren't worth anything.
0 chemicals32 2015-07-31
Protect your innate gullibility. Asking for source is never rude.
5 Wood_Warden 2015-07-31
No, he is mocking the article and he didn't take the time to actually retrace the information to the actual source and instead found it easier to make fun of it.
This is the source, if you read it: http://www.c-span.org/video/?327309-1/us-house-morning-hour&live
0 ohboyohboyohboy 2015-07-31
Your children will surely be pleased that you didn't vaccinate them.
12 joe-murray 2015-07-31
Is there any evidence that vaccines actually do cause autism or just that the CDC does shady stuff? Because even before I read this I expected the CDC was doing shady stuff...
1 lucycohen 2015-07-31
There are hundreds showing vaccines cause Autism, but the mainstream ignores them, here's a few
22 Medical Studies That Show Vaccines Can Cause Autism
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/22-medical-studies-that-show-vaccines.html
1 lucycohen 2015-07-31
86 Research Papers Supporting the Vaccine/Autism Link
http://www.scribd.com/doc/220807175/86-Research-Papers-Supporting-the-Vaccine-Autism-Link#scribd
1 Inchoately 2015-07-31
D'awww, my dad helped write #4. So proud of him. (Sorry, it's nice to see his hard work out there!)
1 lucycohen 2015-07-31
This study found that it was the vaccines containing aborted fetal cells which were causing Autism
Impact of environmental factors on the prevalence of autistic disorder after 1979
http://www.ms.academicjournals.org/article/article1409245960_Deisher%20et%20al.pdf
1 joe-murray 2015-07-31
Thanks for this, I'll check it out
1 lucycohen 2015-07-31
30 Scientific Studies Showing the Link between Vaccines and Autism
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/30-scientific-studies-showing-the-link-between-vaccines-and-autism/
1 lucycohen 2015-07-31
100 Research papers supporting Vaccine/Autism Causation
http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.co.uk/2007/06/no-evidence-of-any-link.html
3 lucycohen 2015-07-31
Through freedom of information we see that the CDC doctors privately admit that vaccines cause Autism in their meetings, but they warn that the information needs to be 'embargoed'
http://www.aapsonline.org/vaccines/cdcfdaexperts.htm
Quotes from their meeting
Dr. Johnston, pg. 14-15 & 19-20: "The data on its toxicity (shows) it can cause neurologic and renal toxicity, including death.”
Dr. Weil, pg. 24: "There are just a host of neurodevelopmental data that would suggest that we’ve got a serious problem." .... "the potential for aluminum and central nervous system toxicity was established by dialysis data. To think there isn’t some possible problem here is unreal.”
Dr. Verstraeten, pg. 31: "we have found statistically significant relationships between the exposure and outcomes for these different exposures and outcomes."
Dr. Verstraeten, pg. 44: "Now for speech delays, which is the largest single disorder in this category of neurologic delays. The results are a suggestion of a trend with a small dip. The overall test for trend is highly statistically significant above one.”
Dr. Bernier, pg. 113: "So we are asking people who have a great job protecting this information up until now, to continue to do that until the time of the ACIP meeting. So to basically consider this embargoed information."
Dr. Johnson, pg. 198: "This association leads me to favor a recommendation that infants up to two years old not be immunized with Thimerosal containing vaccines if suitable alternative preparations are available.” ... "I do not want that grandson to get a Thimerosal containing vaccine until we know better what is going on."
Dr. Weil, pg. 207: "The number of dose related relationships are linear and statistically significant. You can play with this all you want. They are linear. They are statistically significant.
Dr. Brent, pg. 229 "we are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits"
Dr. Clements, pg 247- 249: "that I am very concerned that this has gotten this far, and that having got this far, how you present in a concerted voice the information to the ACIP in a way they will be able to handle it and not get exposed"
Dr. Bernier, pg. 256: "just consider this embargoed information, if I can use that term, and very highly protected information"
1 lucycohen 2015-07-31
At one stage the CDC were completely open about vaccines causing Autism, here's the former CDC chief admitting it in a televised interview, then they got worried about declining vaccine sales and damage payouts, so they decided to cover it up
CDC Chief Admits Vaccines Cause Autism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh-nkD5LSIg
1 Bonki_ 2015-07-31
Here's a review of compensated cases of vaccine-induced brain injury from Pace University's Law School: http://digitalcommons.pace.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1681&context=pelr
-4 measuredsharky 2015-07-31
There is ZERO evidence vaccines cause autism. The CDC just does really shady things.
7 thing_on_a_string 2015-07-31
so explain away the govt payouts to parents of damaged children.
4 lucycohen 2015-07-31
Under freedom of information we discovered that the CDC doctors privately admit that vaccines are causing Autism, but that the information needs to be covered up
http://www.aapsonline.org/vaccines/cdcfdaexperts.htm
Dr. Johnston, pg. 14-15 & 19-20: "The data on its toxicity (shows) it can cause neurologic and renal toxicity, including death.”
Dr. Weil, pg. 24: "There are just a host of neurodevelopmental data that would suggest that we’ve got a serious problem." .... "the potential for aluminum and central nervous system toxicity was established by dialysis data. To think there isn’t some possible problem here is unreal.”
Dr. Verstraeten, pg. 31: "we have found statistically significant relationships between the exposure and outcomes for these different exposures and outcomes."
Dr. Verstraeten, pg. 44: "Now for speech delays, which is the largest single disorder in this category of neurologic delays. The results are a suggestion of a trend with a small dip. The overall test for trend is highly statistically significant above one.”
Dr. Bernier, pg. 113: "So we are asking people who have a great job protecting this information up until now, to continue to do that until the time of the ACIP meeting. So to basically consider this embargoed information."
Dr. Johnson, pg. 198: "This association leads me to favor a recommendation that infants up to two years old not be immunized with Thimerosal containing vaccines if suitable alternative preparations are available.” ... "I do not want that grandson to get a Thimerosal containing vaccine until we know better what is going on."
Dr. Weil, pg. 207: "The number of dose related relationships are linear and statistically significant. You can play with this all you want. They are linear. They are statistically significant.
Dr. Brent, pg. 229 "we are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits"
Dr. Clements, pg 247- 249: "that I am very concerned that this has gotten this far, and that having got this far, how you present in a concerted voice the information to the ACIP in a way they will be able to handle it and not get exposed"
Dr. Bernier, pg. 256: "just consider this embargoed information, if I can use that term, and very highly protected information"
-4 measuredsharky 2015-07-31
How about you back that up with some evidence?
5 lucycohen 2015-07-31
You are new to this topic I see, this sub regularly (every week) posts cases of Vaccine/Autism payouts.
I'd recommend you head over to Google, but I'll get you started on your research with this one
Vaccine Court Awards Millions to Two Children With Autism
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/post2468343_b_2468343.html
7 tinroof-rusted 2015-07-31
Ever read a vaccine insert? It clearly says that an adverse effect of using this product may be autism.
5 lf11 2015-07-31
Well of course there is zero evidence: they shredded all of it. Duh!
2 lucycohen 2015-07-31
You meant to see over ONE ZERO ZERO (100) papers supporting the link between vaccines and Autism
100 Research papers supporting Vaccine/Autism Causation
http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.co.uk/2007/06/no-evidence-of-any-link.html
1 joe-murray 2015-07-31
Oh I see, interesting.
7 thebearcredentials 2015-07-31
Honestly I'm more surprised that so many people believe that there is not a connection between certain vaccines and autism spectrum disorders. The naivety of people is disturbing.
5 DaneelR 2015-07-31
I was vaccinated, as it's mandatory in Poland and I think that I didn't suffer, so I was quite on the fence on the subject of vaccines, but I guess I will have to reconsider.
To me, vaccines and holocaust are the two most difficult subjects to accept as conspiracies.
6 Alcorr 2015-07-31
What's so difficult to accept? That history may not be as simply cut and dry as some would have you believe? That although millions of people died in slave labor camps, that they were perhaps not intentionally killed? Unlike the eisenhower death camps where germans were intentionally left to starve to death even though the americans had food to feed them.
The germans are notoriously efficient people, if they were hell bent on literal genocide poorly built zyklon b gas chambers (designed for delousing) would be the last thing they would do.
They would do what the americans did...round everyone up and starve them to death. Which is not what was observed in the concentration camps. The prisoners were fed, until the end of the war when even the germans were starving.
3 Wood_Warden 2015-07-31
Also, the pictures of starving, freed holocaust survivors were that way because the allies bombed the supply chains to starve the Germans and their prisoners.
5 lucycohen 2015-07-31
It's hard to break through a lifetime's indoctrination, with the Internet now we can check the vaccine studies for ourselves, that's what I did, reading through 1000's, after that I didn't need anyone to tell me if vaccines were good or bad, I knew for myself that they were horrific. Don't take my word for it, start reading the studies for yourself.
0 joinedforthis 2015-07-31
How come there are hardly any diseases in the first-world where we are all vaccinated and loads of diseases in the third-world where they don't have vaccinations?
8 runawayaurora 2015-07-31
Health standards, hygiene, access to quality nutrition - actually most of the diseases that they aim to vaccinate against were already on a severe decline in 1st world populations at large by the time their vaccines were introduced.
The measles is a great example of this (in US), where in 1915 an average of 16000/yr died of measles, avg 7000/yr in 1920, avg 4000/yr in 1930, avg 1000/yr in 1940, avg 350/yr in 1950, avg 100/yr in 1960 and FINALLY the vaccine was introduced in 1968, and has been credited for the near non existence of the disease since.
0 snorkleboy 2015-07-31
so im guessing you would say the wiki on the subject is lying?more specifically this graph which completely disagrees with your numbers?
edit: did more research, your numbers are for the number of people which die from measles, while the wiki numbers are for infections. Deaths ignores both the non death side affects of measles and the whole question of how well they work. Kind of a dishonest response to his question.
8 runawayaurora 2015-07-31
Firstly, I believe I clearly addressed his question because the health standards prior to the post war 20th century era could be considered comparable to that of a 3rd world country currently. My information shows that there was a considerable, almost total decline in mortality from the disease prior to introduction of the vaccine. And if we aren't concerned with mortality rates, then why are we vaccinating? to avoid the mild inconvenience of being sick for a week?
Secondly, a decline in the mortality rate is indicative of a declining contraction rate which one would assume meant a decline of non-death related side effects.
We vaccinate as a risk management technique firstly against death, and secondly against physical/mental impairment. Whether it's to avoid dying from the disease ourselves or passing it to someone that could potentially die from it (an infant, for example), we've been coerced into vaccination participation based on data that is not a reflection of the efficacy of the vaccine, but of the social standards of health and wellness.
Relatedly, it has now been shown that the CDC not only twists data to serve a bias/agenda, but they straight up - with awareness and intention - destroy data that would undermine their ability to continue to push an unnecessary drug. They have proven themselves not to be trustworthy, so why would you take their word on anything?
-1 snorkleboy 2015-07-31
He asked why there are hardly any diseases in the first world compared to the third. He didnt ask why fewer people died, but why so few people even get sick.
We vaccinate for 3 reasons:
to avoid the .3% chance of dying from getting sick (the modern chance of dying from measles according to the same wiki article)
to avoid what with measles is the extreme discomfort of having it
to not spread it to others, especially those that are more vulnerable to measles ( the elderly, the people with compromised immune systems, the poor).
considering that without vaccines you would be getting infected with many more diseases, not just measles, I wouldn't want to be rolling the dice that many times.
5 lucycohen 2015-07-31
Improved nutrition and sanitation, in fact studies show that the countries which give the most vaccines have the worst infant mortality rates
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/
0 Amos_Quito 2015-07-31
Good question!
-1 WizardOfOhZees 2015-07-31
"third-world"
0 [deleted] 2015-07-31
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3 Wood_Warden 2015-07-31
Scroll up. Newer posts have all the studies you seek.
1 liverpoolwin 2015-07-31
DaneelR "To me, vaccines and holocaust are the two most difficult subjects to accept as conspiracies."
It's fine to use both in the same sentence; vaccines are causing a modern day holocaust
-3 HabloEspwnol 2015-07-31
That's maybe the single dumbest, most myopic thing I've heard in my entire life.
4 liverpoolwin 2015-07-31
You obviously don't know much about vaccines then
1 Amos_Quito 2015-07-31
Not meaning to derail the thread here, but no matter what you believe about the Holocaust, it was definitely a massive conspiracy.
Conspiracy
"Conspiracies" are NOT simply crazy ideas or baseless "theories", there are REAL WORLD conspiracies that happen every day. Here are a few examples from recent news:
Pleasantville man sentenced for role in drug conspiracy
Fourth man charged in sex trafficking conspiracy
Midamar founder Aossey found guilty of conspiracy, false statement, wire fraud charges
Liverpool man wanted over £5m drugs conspiracy
2 men to plead guilty for roles in conspiracy to move drugs
As you can see, these people are being accused/convicted/sentenced, not for some paranoid fantasy, but for the CRIME of conspiracy, as defined above.
Generally accepted history holds that Hitler and his henchmen formulated a SECRET PLOT (it was not widely known among the German people, let alone the outside world) to disenfranchise, delegitimize, round up, imprison and ultimately murder over 11 million human beings - the majority of which were Jews. If that it true, The Holocaust was a CONSPIRACY.
Others insist that much of the history of the era was exaggerated or fabricated by the Allies (and others) to demonize the Germans, "justify" Allied atrocities, etc. If that it true, it was a CONSPIRACY.
Believe it, or not, the Holocaust was definitely a conspiracy, only question is, who were the conspirators?
0 iamtheconsolemasterr 2015-07-31
Alright bud what happened to those 11 million people.
6 KevinGilbert 2015-07-31
Autism, obviously
7 iamtheconsolemasterr 2015-07-31
They weren't vaccinated
2 Wood_Warden 2015-07-31
Get to watching: https://youtu.be/xe6npWo7Wug
Get reading: https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t790421/
Or even a simple picture: https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/auschwitz_b4nafter_1989.jpg
-2 liverpoolwin 2015-07-31
Vaccines are killing and disabling many more people than the holocaust, future generations will look back on this as The Vaccine Holocaust, 1000's of times worse than any other holocaust before.
5 G3RTY 2015-07-31
I have insider knowledge on vaccine fabrication and why they can be unsafe. It's part of the manufacturing quality if anyone wants to know more?
3 conspira-tees 2015-07-31
please, post more
3 lf11 2015-07-31
Yes. When are adjuvants added and what do we know about adjuvants and autoimmune disorders? Particularly maternal autoimmune responses to fetal tissues, including fetal stem cells that cross the placenta?
1 G3RTY 2015-07-31
I dont know
3 OWNtheNWO 2015-07-31
Oh look we're proven right again.
This should be a sticky, also feel free to use the sticky in v2 to fill this with other related info.
0 lucycohen 2015-07-31
Good idea, it deserves to be at the top!
1 phillyb41 2015-07-31
Aaahh shit. Light up the bonfire and break out the pitchforks.
1 argentheretic 2015-07-31
Despite the horrible atrocity they have committed, their is a bright side. A lot of our greatest minds have or had some lesser form of autism such as add/adhd or aspergers. These people have a lot of potential to change the world.
0 shameless8914 2015-07-31
Jesus fucking christ..
1 Cgimarelli 2015-07-31
Ditto! I'm also American and have been speaking out about it. We are definitely around; although, few and far between.
1 Levie09 2015-07-31
I have a feeling (and hope) that you know this is irrelevant