Lets talk about Bernie Sanders...

6  2015-08-11 by ENYAY7

Just got back from the LA rally and it was an amazing experience. First time I've felt good about a person I don't really know. Why should we not trust him? What's the end game with Bernie? If he's serious I see assassination in his future. Let's discuss.

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That man is a good man. That man deserves to be a leader more than any other schmucks out there. Hillary is a fucking joke. That woman just has that automatic fake vibe.

I'm also curious how bernie could turn on his stance. We all know Obama promised "change" and "transparency" and that meant the opposite.

First time I've felt good about a person I don't really know.

A few hundred million suckers from 2008 would like to have a man-to-man talk with you.

Obama had no record to back him up... Bernie has decades. How are they at all the same?

Nah, this time it has to be* legit. They wouldn't pull that move on us again, would they???

good point. so much irrefutable information provided here. wait a minute....this is an opinion.

Oh, the irony. But major props on being able to spot the OPINION so quickly. I know they went over that subject in "class" with you so quickly it's amazing you picked it up.

Have you seen the difference between Bernie and Hillary in donations? Clinton is funded by Monsanto, Bernie is funded by public services and unionized workers lmfao. Get over yourself.

The military industrial complex just LOVES ol' Bernie.

Right because he's all about war and expanding military presence in countries like Iran and Syria.....

More because he brings an army of suckers to the table who will swallow anything as long as it comes from Bernie. Like Obama.

You guys sound like those belligerent "protesters" from the other day

I absolutely stand by people who want to have their say and aren't afraid to disrupt a bunch of socialist old white people's lunch to do it.

except that she's a fraud who was pretending to be palestinian at the stop the boat marches and people who disrupt Sanders are funded by George Soros (a Hillary Clinton supporter)

Suuuure she is. Would she still be if she was protesting a conservative or libertarian instead?

As a person of color, she has absolute moral authority over ancient white socialist guys.

You convinced us of this years and years ago-- now we will uphold this gospel to the very end. Bed made. Laying in it in progress.

"As a person of color, she has absolute moral authority over ancient white socialist guys"

Lol, what a compelling and unbiased argument.

First time I've felt good about a person I don't really know.

Yeah, that is a HUGE red flag!

I have never voted nor registered to vote.

Misread

Nah, I'll pass. This 'only when it's convenient' Zionist politician refuses to stand against his own when it really matters. He consistently votes for war. Consistently supports the criminal private Federal Reserve. He is a too good to be true liar who will only perpetuate the same corrupt to the core failing establishment. More of the exact same "hope and change" bullshit lies Obama force fed us for nearly a decade. No substance.

The Hillary campaign has utterly failed under its own weight. Literally NO ONE I've talked to supports her. Hell, they can't even stand her. They can even find a single nice thing to say about this habitually lying piece of trash. Other than hacked fraudulent Diebold votes, she won't be seeing more than low single digit votes.

The Bush name alone is absolutely toxic. The people haven't forgot about the hands down worst American president of all time. The fuck can't even show his face in public anymore. The exact same around fraudulent hacked votes can also be said for Jeb's snowballs chance in hell of seeing any votes.

America has finally woke up to these worthless lying pieces of shit. The old methods no longer work. The jig is up. Glad you're buying it though, OP. This time it's probably real, and you can probably trust this known liar. Hope and change...

He voted against the Iraq war.

Sure

Despite his own claims, Sanders has not been an antiwar leader. Ever since he won election to the House, he has taken either equivocal positions on U.S. wars or outright supported them. His hawkish positions -- especially his decision to support Bill Clinton's 1999 Kosovo War -- drove one of his key advisers, Jeremy Brecher, to resign from his staff. Brecher wrote in his resignation letter, "Is there a moral limit to the military violence you are willing to participate in or support?"

So outraged were peace activists over Sanders' support of the Kosovo War that they occupied his office in 1999. Sanders had them arrested. Under the Bush regime, Sanders' militarism has only grown worse. While he called for alternative approaches to the war on Afghanistan, he failed to join the sole Democrat, Barbara Lee, to vote against Congress' resolution that gave George Bush a blank check to launch war on any country he deemed connected to the September 11 attacks.

Ever since, he has voted for appropriations bills to fund the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, despite their horrific toll on the occupied peoples as well as U.S. soldiers.

Sanders has been critical of the war on Iraq, but he has supported pro-war measures -- such as a March 21, 2003, resolution stating, "Congress expresses the unequivocal support and appreciation of the nation to the President as Commander-in-Chief for his firm leadership and decisive action in the conduct of military operations in Iraq as part of the ongoing Global War on Terrorism."

He also opposes immediate withdrawal from Iraq, despite the fact that a majority of residents in his home city of Burlington voted for such a position in a town meeting resolution in February 2005.

The day after his election to the Senate, Sanders declared, "I don't think you can do a quote-unquote immediate withdrawal. I think the policy has got to be we will withdraw our troops as soon as possible, and by that, I mean that I believe we can have our troops out in the next year, and maybe a significant number of them before that. I don't think you can snap your fingers and just bring all the troops home tomorrow. I just don't think that's practical."

Even more shocking, Sanders scuttled any action on a wave of Bush impeachment resolutions that swept Vermont towns in 2006. Like House Majority Leader-to-be Nancy Pelosi, who has promised not to impeach Bush, Sanders argued that impeachment was impractical, and that activists should put energy into electing Democrats.

Outraged, Dan Dewalt, the organizer of the impeachment resolution campaign in Vermont, said, "We think we have quality politicians in Vermont. We're wrong. We have politics as usual in Vermont. Our so-called independent congressman, Bernie Sanders, can't get far enough away from impeachment."

When it really matters, this loser ALWAYS shows his true colors.

That's disheartening. Where is this source from?

Very much so. Too good to be true, I'm afraid. Just more of the same, with a fresh spit shine from the corporate media. The quote was from Will Miller - http://www.libertyunionparty.org/?page_id=363

lol that isn't a reliable source. who you shilling for?

nothing wrong with Bernie, he is clearly the best of the available options in an otherwise rigged game. Just cause you have some personal vendetta against him doesn't make your shit links any more credible.

ive been posting here more regularly and longer than you, you're a fucking troll.

how is he zionist?

His voting record paints that picture quite clearly. See the votes he cast around supporting the apartheid nation-state of Israel - financially and militarily (ex. Operation Protective Edge). He talks the talk, but when it comes down to it, he will only act against Israeli interest when its meaningless (see walking out on the Netanyahu - only done to support his blue congress gang and not because he's against Israeli policies).

so someone cant support israel?

They can do whatever they please. As can I support the same. I have no respect for men claiming to answer to two masters (while only really ever serving one).

who is the one master they really serve?

I think that one is fairly self explanatory. Just like Sanders said himself, the idea of a dual-citizen "serving" in office is absolutely disgusting. That it's somehow allowed is treason of the highest order.

The fact that those who vote to send taxpayer money and taxpayer funded military hardware and lives that directly benefits ONLY their "home" nation is absolute insanity. Sanders has been playing this game for far too long. Those who really know him know just how corrupt he is.

Much like the scumbag Obama turned out to be, Sanders is mostly an act with zero substance or morals. He does what he's told. Fuck the once great America. Fuck her citizens. Fuck her future.

the idea of a dual-citizen "serving" in office is absolutely disgusting. That it's somehow allowed is treason of the highest order.

hes not a dual citizen

That's correct. Though MANY others are.

Such as

Read up, friend. First link returned when searched - http://www.kickthemallout.com/article.php/Story-Dual_Citizenship_Loyal_To_Whom

I did

And?

You cool with that whole treason gig? Not a problem to be serving both nations concurrently (generally speaking though, they only ever really serve one. The other being full lip service.)?

Yeah They seem to be serving the United States

I don't have a problem with that

Really, because from my perspective they are serving an entirely different nation. The US comes second, if at all.

No

They seem to serve the US more than any nation

So Bernie wouldn't be better than Clinton or bush?

Bernie is Israel's candidate. There has been something going on with US/Israeli relations recently where they seem to be breaking down. We are seeing prominent politicians saying some anti-Israel things that would have been unspeakable just a few years ago. I could speculate about what, exactly, but that's all it would be. My speculation is that there is going to be an economic crisis of some kind that won't be able to be covered up. The politicians will certainly not blame themselves; so they will blame Israeli/Zionist loyalists who manipulated the financial system against the best interests of the citizens.

I don't think Sanders will be "allowed" to make it far because he is Israel's guy... you simply will not win if the "national security" state does not approve of you.

Bernie is Israel's candidate

You must have him confused with the entire republican party, who remain at the beck and call of Bibi Netanyahu.

He's not vocally critical enough of Israel for some progressives (it would be political suicide) but he's far more skeptical than the others.

Sanders supports Obama's Iran deal.

Yet what many may not know is that Sanders was once a strong critic of the Israeli policies towards Palestinians – going further than any major presidential candidate ever has in terms of excoriating that country's policies

AH yes, an equal rights and human rights activist loves what Israel is doing in Palestine.

Debatable. Define "better."

If you are voting because he makes you feel good you are voting for the wrong reason.

Not registered yet...and not sold yet we shall see

I am just scared he is anti trump. A long pre run to distract from hilarity. I feel it'll be Hillary and Jeb, all presidents except one come an English king family tree. I want someone to break the yin and yang politics so we can have a push of multiparty runners. They would all have to work harder. Vermin 2016

Bernie is no different than Obama. Hillary is such a blatant warmonger and shill for the banks that she has no chance. She's just a straw man for Bernie to tear apart and win over the crowd. If he wins its mass disarmament, increased surveillance, increased corporate welfare, continuation of perpetual war, etc. Don't get me wrong, I believe in socialized education and healthcare, but I don't think change is coming again. I think Jeb Bush and Rand Paul are the republican version of this same democracy theater.

  1. Jew (Zionists)
  2. Says he wants to take down the banks.
  3. Obama said, he'd heal the world.

If you cannot see it, bless your soul.

you understand hes not jewish right?

Whats wrong with taking down banks? Explain your points better please. If those are the worst he has to offer than he'll make a better president than one funded by billionaires

He is what people need for a one world super bank."Destroy" the Fed so global Fed takes over. If you own the super algorithm you own all finance.

sits on giant bitcoin stash and laughs*

The global banking scheme has connected the works better than religion, but it's unfair to the people tricked into Labour for pay. Owning land and building up your own is impossible without years of servitude or winning the birth lottery.

Wait. You are a socialist and a Bitcoin supporter? Or are you being sarcastic?

Turns out you can believe in socialism and the advancement of society simultaneously.

Okay... As long as you understand those are opposite things.

ah yes. Canada has been doing really shitty as far as the progression of the world over the last 100 years, my bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_Canada

Yeah, massive resources and small population. Great plan.

Imagine having large amounts of resources per person. Terrible right?

I'm not sure you're really thinking this through.

When a Jew goes against the tribe (the banks) he is lying. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing. He says good things, yet will they come to fruition? Look at Obama. Sorry, if this may seem "anti-Semitic" (Bernie is from Poland, not Palestine), but it's the truth.

I agree for the most part. Does he even stand a chance against hilary or another republican? Bernie called our government an oligarchy tonight.

So did trump.

Bernie is just a product of the very typical left-wing Commie/Zionist Jewish subculture in America. He's essentially a red diaper baby.

He's from the old school Jewish leftists that wanted Communism because back then they weren't in the elites. These days, Jews are the richest and most powerful ethnic group in America. But guys like Bernie Sanders are still living like it's 1959 and the Evil WASP Presbyterians kept Uncle Schlomo out of the golf club.

Really Bernie's a non-entity that will endorse Hillary once he drops out.

but hes not jewish

Bingo! We'll get downvoted to hell, though. Meh, fuck it.

You get downvoted because of all the 'jew' talk.

You do understand that there are people who are more loyal to their religion than to the country they live in, right?

Well Sanders did just mention that he's "not particularly religious.” But who knows what that means.

A claim and the truth are different things.

I totally agree.

since when is bernie jewish?

I hope you are kidding.

i am

but i dont see how him being jewish matters

should people feel ashamed of being jewish

No, they should be ashamed of claiming two nation's citizenship while primarily "serving" one, yet really serving the other.

They serve the US very much

If their constituents feel otherwise: then vote them out

Ever seen them vote for the interests of the US over the interests of Israel? Any of them? If so, kindly provide even a single example.

There's an underlying assumption that the two can't be the same.

Please point to a vote that you thought would be in the interests of Israel but not the United States

Ever increasing funding of Israel with American taxpayer funds, every year.

Benefits America

It's military aid, we give them money to our ally, one of our strongest and most important ally who is forced to use that money to buy military equipment from American companies.

That money stays here and we ensure our interests of safety for our allies

Try again

Benefits transnational corporations owned by more dual-citizens, while robbing American citizens. This "partnership" has yet to benefit America even in the slightest.

Whether a company operates in more than one nation doesn't mean it's not American: the companies who get the foreign aid are American companies

And they are majoritly owned by American shareholders unless you have evidence of the contrary

Benefits transnational corporations

Still American companies

owned by more dual-citizens,

Your evidence is?

while robbing American citizens.

How?

This "partnership" has yet to benefit America even in the slightest.

Giving money to American companies while also protecting our interests abroad is out benefit

You get downvoted because of all the 'jew' talk.

Right - never criticize God's Holy Jews.

Everyone else is the problem - not Jews.

Christians, Germans, "white supremacists," Lizard People - anyone but God's Chosen Race, our natural leaders, The Jews.

You gotta be kidding.

I'm just telling you why you're getting downvoted. I didn't make a comment on what you post.

I'm just telling you why you're getting downvoted.

"jew talk" - as if Jews cannot be discussed or criticized by the "lower peoples" - the "goyim" - the "Gentiles."

Downvote away - who could possibly care about imaginary internet points?

Bernie Sanders isn't exactly Nehtanyahu. Chill.

hes not jewish

since when is bernie jewish?

not 1 source, just hyperbole and opinion

Looks like the best of the worst to me, so far.

Bernie Sanders is a very typical leftist Jew. He's a Zionist and essentially a Communist. I won't vote for him.

That being said, he did admit that immigration hurts workers. I gotta respect a guy who tells that politically incorrect truth these days.

He isn't a communist... he is more of a conservative socialist. He doesn't support the pay everyone the same scheme. But more pay a living wage to people willing to work and more people will work

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jacks 1000 is bumbling bernie sanders hating moron it appears. he probably thinks bill clinton was the best president ever.

Hey what time is it in Tel Aviv, lolurwack?

essentially a Communist

Do you know what a communist is? Sanders is a socialist, not a communist. Learn the difference.

Sanders is a socialist, not a communist. Learn the difference.

Do you know the difference between a Nazi and a fascist?

Does it matter all that much?

Wow. You're actually this thick. You do realize that not only is there a large difference between the two, but they are not comparable as one is a subset of the other.

Bernie is just a product of the very typical left-wing Commie/Zionist Jewish subculture in America. He's essentially a red diaper baby.

He's from the old school Jewish leftists that wanted Communism because back then they weren't in the elites. These days, Jews are the richest and most powerful ethnic group in America. But guys like Bernie Sanders are still living like it's 1959 and the Evil WASP Presbyterians kept Uncle Schlomo out of the golf club.

Really Bernie's a non-entity that will endorse Hillary once he drops out.

I agree for the most part. Does he even stand a chance against hilary or another republican? Bernie called our government an oligarchy tonight.

Debatable. Define "better."

Bernie is Israel's candidate. There has been something going on with US/Israeli relations recently where they seem to be breaking down. We are seeing prominent politicians saying some anti-Israel things that would have been unspeakable just a few years ago. I could speculate about what, exactly, but that's all it would be. My speculation is that there is going to be an economic crisis of some kind that won't be able to be covered up. The politicians will certainly not blame themselves; so they will blame Israeli/Zionist loyalists who manipulated the financial system against the best interests of the citizens.

I don't think Sanders will be "allowed" to make it far because he is Israel's guy... you simply will not win if the "national security" state does not approve of you.

Very much so. Too good to be true, I'm afraid. Just more of the same, with a fresh spit shine from the corporate media. The quote was from Will Miller - http://www.libertyunionparty.org/?page_id=363

Well Sanders did just mention that he's "not particularly religious.” But who knows what that means.

Yeah, massive resources and small population. Great plan.

since when is bernie jewish?

I did

And?

Whether a company operates in more than one nation doesn't mean it's not American: the companies who get the foreign aid are American companies

And they are majoritly owned by American shareholders unless you have evidence of the contrary

Benefits transnational corporations

Still American companies

owned by more dual-citizens,

Your evidence is?

while robbing American citizens.

How?

This "partnership" has yet to benefit America even in the slightest.

Giving money to American companies while also protecting our interests abroad is out benefit