I'm freaked out - please help!
4 2015-08-13 by buriedcompass
I have been researching Sandy Hook recently because I had not looked into it when it happened. I am under the presumption that the official story is true.
I came across this video on it and it has really freaked me out.
Can someone debunk or back up the claims in it? Especially the last 2 minutes where it contends that one of the victim's memorial FB pages was created 3 days before Sandy Hook happened and thst fund raising website was created the day before.
I'm presuming all of this is incorrect or doctored evidence but I have to admit that I am unnerved right now.
53 comments
4 no1113 2015-08-13
Well there's your problem right there.
2 buriedcompass 2015-08-13
You'd think someone who believes firmly in the JFK and 9/11 conspiracies would be more distrusting, wouldn't you?
3 no1113 2015-08-13
Ha. Yes. I kind of would. ;)
3 buriedcompass 2015-08-13
To be honest, I think the fact that it involved innocent children made me feel bad questioning it.
7 no1113 2015-08-13
This is something I imagine the individuals responsible for the false flag in the first place banked on.
2 buriedcompass 2015-08-13
Mission accomplished.
Do you have any information on the FB page being created before the shooting?
3 no1113 2015-08-13
I'd say be critically-minded and acknowledge when there is valid data for or against something one way or the other, but question everything. NOTHING should be "too sacrilegious" to question - especially if some things aren't adding up upon initial perusal.
And a lot of things aren't adding up about this event.
4 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
Nothing adds up about it. Ann Hadad is fucking Nancy Lanza, I would give that a 100% certainty. There is no question Nancy is still alive. I have that video if you want to see it I don't know what you guys can see. Most of the links I would post about it, you wouldn't even be able to see. If you are using automatically given DNS. If you are going to do this conspiracy stuff you can't be held back by what the government is ok with you to see. Nope that doesn't work, Maybe I should do a post about it.
0 bagginse 2015-08-13
I'd like to know more about these links i wouldn't be able to see. Are you talking about tor? (Edited because I pressed send too soon)
0 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
No its not tor, this is the easiest way to get around some of the copyright take downs on youtube. I will still run across them but, if you have a friend in Canada as I do who I converse with over teamspeak. I can constantly link him videos that won't cross the border. I don't know why they just won't. So this was our little fix for each others videos. its the easiest, you can step it up a notch and use a VPN too. This is usually enough though.
0 no1113 2015-08-13
Certainly seems that way to me.
I'm interested in seeing the video you're talking about as well. Thanks.
1 buriedcompass 2015-08-13
Well said.
0 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
You do realize that these guys you are getting info from are professional skeptics, they didn't even begin to look into this. They are just here to provide you a suicide net for you world view. If you want to know the truth the first thing you must do is change your dns servers so you are no longer on North Korea's internet copyright laws. Use Iceland they don't give a fuck. Make your internet adapter settings look like this here. You will unlock a whole new world of wtf and you will leave these nincompoops to kick rocks on low info. http://imgur.com/4xvR5nP
0 buriedcompass 2015-08-13
What will changing these settings do exactly?
2 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
At the 1:hr30min mark of this video is some of the best evidence of this being a hoax, The meta data of this video you will see is of Dec 13th a day before the shooting, possibly a rehearsal. The cops and the fire dept. certainly don't seem to be an any hurry to do anything. Just standing there, supposedly right after the shooting. This to me is the most damning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD0z275nQnM
0 buriedcompass 2015-08-13
Is there a secondary source that confirms this happened on December 13th?
1 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
I have no clue. sorry
0 buriedcompass 2015-08-13
No problem. Thanks for the link. Seems like a very thorough video.
0 [deleted] 2015-08-13
if you think the metadata of that file is accurate, you don't understand how metadata works
1 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
anything the government 404s or any copyright takedown, it doesn't come down it stays up and if you route them through Iceland you can see it.
3 Putin_loves_cats 2015-08-13
You're an idiot.
0 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
Obviously you don't know how to internet! IDIOT? Why yes you are. http://www.howtogeek.com/167418/5-ways-to-bypass-internet-censorship-and-filtering/
3 Putin_loves_cats 2015-08-13
Oh Really? C'mon bruh, try harder....
1 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
Cmon what? WTH are you talking about? I know what you are.
0 Putin_loves_cats 2015-08-13
https://media.giphy.com/media/10sXTCdlsdKn8k/giphy.gif
1 [deleted] 2015-08-13
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1 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
Might as well be. I was using a metaphor, and now I'm being hassled by this "hill" without the prefix s. He sucks though. I proved his ass wrong from the out set and he went straight for my grammar and spelling. He can't keep his head above water at all. They will pay anyone to comment on here now no matter how stupid they are or how obvious their motive. They used to be so much better at this stuff. Its like they are bots now just throwing out insults. They don't even provide quality content or try to prove you wrong. I wanted to spar a little too. Ho hum, maybe next time.
1 [deleted] 2015-08-13
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1 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
It works best on youtube, this I forgot to mention. I have yet to find something that will not cross borders changing the dns servers to Iceland. As you can see in my link up higher, i do use the Tokyo university free VPN its new and amazing I suggest you try it. You just find an open one and click on it, super easy to use. My point is we are not the freest country in the world, it seems as though Iceland has us beat in this area. There are literally tons of episodes of things you can find on youtube using these, you wouldn't find running open dns. My friends come over to watch their favorite Japanamation they can't get, I've also found occasionally I will find something good I will have to download and re-upload to share it. I'm just assuming its probably because its good and there is something in it someone doesn't want you to see. I'm failing to see why its infringing on any copyrights usually, or my logic. Naturally you would start here, when america goes full retard we will all be doing this and using a VPN. I just focused on DNS because you never have an issue of being blocked out of something, its basically ease of access. Yes the article doesn't necessarily give you the fresh chowder. So a person just couldn't assume its because you can set the dns and not worry about anything thing, knowing you will be able to surf with out fail? No he calls me an Idiot, when its he who doesn't have a clue, but you probably know that because you're his mom right?
0 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
You are transparent and you are being tagged. You couldn't possibly know if it works or not. You have an alternator motive, do you? If not explain yourself, please make the reason something other than you are twelve, and trolling.
1 Putin_loves_cats 2015-08-13
https://media.giphy.com/media/10sXTCdlsdKn8k/giphy.gif
PS, learn grammar and spelling.
1 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
I pride myself on being an antigrammarian, I normally have someone edit that shit. Lets talk about content, and the fact that you have none. You have nothing but spelling? Grammar? c'mon man? lmfao dumbass. Speak to the fact I just burned you? no? You have no idea what you are talking about jack ass.
1 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
You are not bringing anything, you are weak! You are not worth what they pay you.
1 buriedcompass 2015-08-13
Awesome.
1 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
Its an anti Kim Jung utility belt. Also they don't save ip addresses.
1 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
http://www.howtogeek.com/167418/5-ways-to-bypass-internet-censorship-and-filtering/
3 reputable_opinion 2015-08-13
the official story should always be presumed false. that is their track record.
it is up to them to show us that a massacre happened. what they did show us instead raised all doubt. their story is bunk.
2 buriedcompass 2015-08-13
You're right, I should have assumed it was false, probably. The FB page really freaked me out. I need to know if that was true.
2 RandoKillrizian 2015-08-13
I saw those that day. One of them we weren't sure, because you can create a facebook page three days before and then change the name but the dedicated song to the memory of the dead was posted on twitter and linked to a video hosting service and was a song for the kids and had pictures of them and the teachers. That was made three weeks before the incident. Also ann Hadad is Nancy Lanza. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvkOE_F-mc8 The school was closed for two years and Sandy Hook was the new school they had moved the kids to. Check out the internet activity of that school they demolished. two years of no internet activity and then a week before they fired everything back up.
3 KnightBeforeTomorrow 2015-08-13
Sandy hook questions
http://sandyhookjustice.com/about-us.html
Sandy Hook official investigation reports. video and written reports. Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Reports Sandy Hook official investigation reports. video and written reports.
http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/
Sandy Hook No Children http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7qFEsXAipaM
FBI Says No One Killed at Sandy Hook Agency publishes crime report showing "0" murders occurred in Newtown in 2012 http://www.infowars.com/fbi-says-no-one-killed-at-sandy-hook/
Sandy Hook GAME OVER! NO Deaths NO Victims in Official SSA Death Index
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz4a86uVEA0
Sandy Hook Victims: Lottery Jackpots and Free Homes – Two Unusual Clues Unearthed in Newtown
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/02/18/sandy-hook-victims-lottery-jackpots-
Breakng News MUST WATCH Raw Helicopter Footage Before The Fake Sandy Hook Shooting Started
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/120826/Breakng_News_MUST_WATCH__Raw_Helicopter_Footage_Before_The_Fake_Sandy_Hook_Shooting_Started/#DTV
2 gombo223 2015-08-13
Has the video been removed already?
2 [deleted] 2015-08-13
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2 buriedcompass 2015-08-13
Interesting...
2 DaneelR 2015-08-13
Archived just in case:
https://archive.is/I0VRq
1 junkeee999 2015-08-13
Creation dates of web pages are unreliable things. In short, the page could have been created for another purpose, then revised to become a memorial page, but the date will still be the original publish date.
But on the other side, the video does have scary music, so there's that.
1 buriedcompass 2015-08-13
Fair point.
0 [deleted] 2015-08-13
it's the actual answer to your question, "fair point" is kind of understating it. Everyone else is just churning the same long-debunked bullshit
1 iamagod_____ 2015-08-13
Totally debunked. Like not one single.kid being rushed to the hospital. ALL children being left to rot on the cold, hard floor for an excess of 24 hours. Totally.
0 [deleted] 2015-08-13
...seriously? Yes. Two kids were rushed to the hospital. How are you still this fundamentally ignorant about the case?
1 iamagod_____ 2015-08-13
Why don't you you show us proof of this.
0 [deleted] 2015-08-13
If you can't figure out how to download the publicly available official report, then you are beyond my help. I cannot un-retard you. I am sorry.
1 iamagod_____ 2015-08-13
The publicly available "official report" is a scattered, jumbled mess of garbage that took significantly longer to produce than any other similar case. Attempting to prop up such garbage exposes your clear as day game entirely.
The next time you attempt to jump in on our conversations, do so by actually contributing something, not simply pointing 'over there.' Until you can, kindly go fuck yourself.
0 [deleted] 2015-08-13
So, you demand proof, and when shown proof your defense is that you are illiterate?
1 iamagod_____ 2015-08-13
Where's that "proof" you're claiming to have?
0 GrovyOne 2015-08-13
To avoid confirmation bias, I'd recommend posting questions like this to r/skeptic or r/debunkthis in the future.
2 buriedcompass 2015-08-13
I wasn't aware of those subs. Thank you.
0 bagginse 2015-08-13
I'd like to know more about these links i wouldn't be able to see. Are you talking about tor? (Edited because I pressed send too soon)
0 no1113 2015-08-13
Certainly seems that way to me.
I'm interested in seeing the video you're talking about as well. Thanks.
1 iamagod_____ 2015-08-13
Why don't you you show us proof of this.