China devalued the Yuan, angering the US with suspicions of currency war. What are the chances that the Tianjin, China explosion was US Terrorism?

12  2015-08-13 by jimmyb207

36 comments

Zero.

China devalued its currency in an attempt to prevent its economy from completely crashing, not to start some sort of currency war. The US understand that.

China is also more than capable of determining why that plant exploded and, if it was foul play, making a clear, provable connection. If that proof were to point to the US, it would be considered an act of war.

The USA is a bully. It only picks on easy targets. China is not in any sense of the term an easy target.

No chance.

The US definitely wants to avoid military confrontation--but that does not mean the US wouldn't work in a covert manner using, for example, South Korean or Japanese contacts to conduct industrial espionage.

It is only a theory--there is No Proof at this point...

Seems too risky. If it gets traced back all the way, and China is more than capable of doing that as evidenced by their brash, deep penetration of US data systems, you're all of a sudden in a shooting war with the second most powerful military on the planet.

Too risky. Not a chance.

Anything is possible when you control the media--look at the Iraq "war." Millions of people around the world protested, yet, the US insisted and got their way.

You're also assuming the unproven claims by the US that China has deep penetration of extremely critical intelligence communications.

You're also assuming the unproven claims by the US that China has deep penetration of extremely critical intelligence communications.

Why would the US lie about that? Seems awful embarrassing.

Funding.

Without an enemy the DoD-CIA-NSA-FBI-DHS (etc) funds would dwindle.

Isn't that why we made ISIS? =)

i am very curious to hear what evidence comes out about the origin of this explosion but i don't believe my eyes when i see the footage. this historically horrific if terrorist. USA terror or any other culprit. Treasonously high to provoke war like this. so...

IF the US is involved the citizens of the US should revolt. its evident based off personal experience and history that this is no longer humanitarian US/foreign wars of the 20th and 21st century... you are seeing provocation. the paradigm shift that americans cannot accept and must accept and react to.

either way i hope there is a way for the Chinese people to recover. this is an unbelievable event. timing of it all seems very suspicious. and i hope to god my government is not this stupid. if so, we have no choice.

It wouldn't surprise me...the U.S. has been ratcheting up the tension over the past few years--even going to the extent of re-focusing the longterm goals of the military. U.S. has also been attempting to open military bases in Vietnam and the Philippines--it's no wonder China is building an island in the South China Sea.

Another tidbit I found interesting is that the explosion caused China to shut down their Supercomputer: http://www.ecns.cn/cns-wire/2015/08-13/177010.shtml

It's not clear yet if there was damage to the Supercomputer or not (the article says there was damage to the building, but the computer was turned off as a precaution).

The port in the city that was damaged is the 4th busiest in the world--this fact alone will cause a strong reaction if China perceives anything other than a tragic industrial accident to have taken place.

How timely. Here is another thread discussing this same topic.

July 29th...YES, timely.

Remember when the Snowden story was breaking and Obama was meeting up with China's top official--the headlines were that China was spying on the US...

I would say that the US is merely reacting to the existing tension in the areas. Those nations have had those islands in dispute FOREVER.

I would urge you to read THE BROTHERS by Stephen Kinzer (or his earlier book OVERTHROW)...

interview with author: http://www.c-span.org/video/?315393-1/qa-stephen-kinzer

From what I understand, this may already be a strong reaction by the US.

There are some similarities in the way these cars are burned in a corroded fashion on 9/11.

Burned corroded cars 9/11 There are more pics of this out there.

Tianjin, China

Almost none. What Us incentive is there to bomb the chemical plant? 1) wouldn't there be much more practical targets, such as The port itself and 2) if the US were somehow implicated in this then why would it risk starting a war?

wouldn't it

Plausible deniability. Your enemy's enemy is your friend. They would use 'local' friends with boots on the ground.

Tong Foos as opposed to Tom Cruise.

Your enemy's enemy is your friend.

Not necessarily

Ok lets just slow down for a second. I think it's fair to say that whenever you add more layers to a plan the more complex it becomes and the greater the chances for failure. Also, just because someone wants to maintain plausible deniability doesn't mean it always happens. What if they are discovered? Wars have been started over less certainty.

The US commits economic warfare against every country on the planet. China has overtaken the US in some of the top economic indicators--and is now detaching itself from the dollar. China is buying (and mining) gold at a very fast pace over the last couple of years.

In the longterm, BRICS is another economic threat to the US.

A lot of nations commit economic warfare. I'm not an expert but in a capitalistic economy I would say it's commoN. So why would we not see these kinds ofoperations all the time?

In the 80's, the US sold weapons to Iraq...in 1991, the US invaded Iraq--then US corporations financed and received contracts to rebuild Iraq...then, in 2003 the US invaded Iraq--destroying the infrastructure once again...

it's a broken record.

have you read CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HITMAN by John Perkins?

So you really think we are going to invade a country with nukes?

I never said the US would invade--it would be more likely for the US to work covertly--through South Korean contacts (etc.)...

Industrial espionage is what the NSA-CIA-Sate Dept. are all about. The US has a long history of acting at the whim of industrialists like the Rockefellers and JP Morgan...One former CIA agent even wrote a book in which he stated his first job was to run background checks for Standard Oil (which was owned by the Rockefellers).

Sorry I thought you were trying to say that the explosions were the first step of an Iraq cycle. Dang I'm getting downvoted so I can't talk in this thread. I'll pm you my thoughts.

I have not. I agree with your broken record comment. Sorry about the snarky reply haha. It's just that I don't believe the US did this. We should wait for more evidence to come out

We do see these things all the time but people always seem to give the biggest liars in society the benefit of the doubt.

Can you provide examples of similar incidents? I don't have a concrete opinion myself at this point but I'm asking to see what you mean not to prove you wrong.

I'm only getting one submission for each 10 minutes so I have to be economic with my messages so I'll also say this: I think is too early to draw any conclusions. Soon there should be forensics etc and then I think it will warrant more of a discussion.

Find your own info. You can't prove me wrong and I can't prove I'm right so go about your life as this is not a crime lab.

I'm just asking a question... No need to be aggressive about it. I thought the point of this subreddit was to be cooperative.

Not being aggressive that's how you took it. The point of this sub is discussion of conspiracy not cooperative circle jerking.

you're right, chemicals are not valuable at all. ????

and they are not highly toxic and flammable. i heard cyanide... cyanide was lit on fire...? im waiting to get some conclusive analysis on this.

Or, China is like Texas with business owners who do not follow safety protocols with explosive materials.

Every bad thing that happens in the world is not the fault of the U.S. government.

You should study the federal effect.

And the triangle shirt waiste factory fire.

industrial disasters are a Chinese national pasttime.

Funding.

Without an enemy the DoD-CIA-NSA-FBI-DHS (etc) funds would dwindle.