Here is a question I could never get an answer to: "If God can do anything, can he create a rock so heavy he can't lift it?"

I used to ask that. Here's the answer: God is not a separate entity. God is not some externalized all-powerful dude in the sky or in another dimension.

Rather, God is Nature. God is everything. God is "creation". Not superman.

So it's kind of a nonsense question based on a false assumption.

(Don't feel bad -- part of the point of religion is to make us externalize God. It turns out the State has no authority over God, hence no authority over us. If we would only realize it.)

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Damn, people don't give me money on the internet. I should stop calling them all fart knockers I guess.

Seems to me like you're just redefining terms. If god is just the same thing as nature, why call it god? I mean using your logic, I could just as easily say god exists because god is a sandwich I'm currently eating. Redefining god does nothing to answer the original question of whether or not there is an all power entity that created the universe.

(Assuming I understand this all correctly...)

It's the other way around: Religion re-defined the ancient concept of God to make the concept no longer a threat to the State. ("Nature" is just more acceptable for atheists.)

The threatening idea is that the State didn't make you; God did. If God made you -- if God authored you --- the State has no authority over you. Only God has authority over you.

All it demonstrates is that the State did not create you. A higher "author" did.

But there's no way I can condense all those videos into one tl;dr.

The threatening idea is that the State didn't make you

The sate doesn't claim to have made me, so I'm not sure how the idea that it didn't is threatening.

My problem with calling nature god, is that it's ultimately a meaningless statement. Calling nature god doesn't change anything about nature. Nature isn't an intelligent, all powerful entity and doesn't have any of the characteristics normally associated with god.

Going back to the sandwich metaphor, calling a sandwich god doesn't make the sandwich an all powerful, intelligent entity that is responsible for my creation.

If God made you -- if God authored you

But, if nature is god, then there is no author. Sure I guess you can say nature created people, but it would be far more accurate to say that people emerged because of natural laws. There was no intelligence behind the creation of humanity, and thus no god. Simply calling nature god, doesn't make it so.

Only God has authority over you.

This makes sense with the traditional definition of god, as an all powerful entity must have authority over me in order to be all powerful.

However it makes no sense when god is simple nature. Sure everything in the universe is subject to natural and physical laws, and in that way nature has authority over us, but at the same time nature has no moral authority over us. We are not forced to follow a moral code imposed on us by nature and we have complete authority over ourselves within the confines of the physical laws.

Nature is not all powerful either, as nature itself is subject to natural laws. It is impossible for any part of nature to step outside these laws. I fail to understand how nature in any can be equated with god. Unless of course you redefine god. In which case, you could call anything god.

The sate doesn't claim to have made me, so I'm not sure how the idea that it didn't is threatening.

The state doesn't claim to have authority over you. It claims to have authority over the fictional corporation that's printed on your birth certificate. The trick is: you say that corporation is you, thereby giving the state authority over you.

Yes indeed nature is subject to Natural Law. That's the only law you and I are truly subject to.

Forget about God as an all-powerful entity. That concept of God has been injected into your head by religion -- a creation of the state.

If you want to understand, watch the videos. They're well-worth it, and I'd love to know that more people understand this. I've been at this full-time (8+ hours a day) for over a year, and this has radically shifted my view of history, religion, and politics.

If you want to keep your worldview intact, just walk away.

This series does a terrific job of breaking it down:

• Servant King Confusion series

And this series tells us what we can do about it:

• Servent King Unraveled series

Here's a guy who appears to have sharpened Marcus's argument to a fine edge:

• Why we all think we are right and everyone else is wrong

• More on establishing your faith in Christ to remove the assumptions of false god judges.

• Person and Citizen trap words to avoid in coming out of Babylon

• Special message to Terry Matchett the man acting as head judge Alberta

tl;dw: The United States corporation actually has zero authority over we natural men and women. It only has authority over other corporations -- such as the one that's created for you by your birth certificate. We're tricked into slavery. Ya really.

• Brief 10 minute summary

Forget about God as an all-powerful entity. That concept of God has been injected into your head by religion -- a creation of the state.

But that's what god is. Again you can call anything god (such as a sandwich), but that is completely meaningless. Also the idea of gods being intelligent, and powerful entities goes back further than the concept of the state, so it doesn't make sense to say the state created that definition of god.

tl;dw: The United States corporation actually has zero authority over we natural men and women. It only has authority over other corporations -- such as the one that's created for you by your birth certificate. We're tricked into slavery. Ya really.

That's nothing but psuedo-legal nonsense. That whole idea doesn't even make any sense.

Just walk away. You're far too attached to your worldview.

You're far too attached to your worldview.

That's probably because my worldview makes rational sense.

That's because you're ignorant. You're like my friends who still think 9/11 was done by Arab terrorists. They're happy with their worldview; don't bother them with facts!

don't bother them with facts!

But your worldview isn't based on facts at all. I mean if the government wanted to enslave all of America, why would they go through all the trouble of secretly manipulating contracts, but not do it secretly enough to stop people like you from finding out. You think that they'd kill or arrest the people discussing this stuff, as opposed to just letting you go about your lives.

Santos Bonacci arrested

Dean Clifford arrested

edit: Downvoted? Bitch you asked for examples of guys talking about this who got arrested, I give you two, and you and your buddies downvote me. Guess we know what's up.

The United States corporation actually has zero authority over we natural men and women. It only has authority over other corporations -- such as the one that's created for you by your birth certificate. We're tricked into slavery. Ya really.

Tl;dr you're nutso. The United states government has authority over you becuase they're the ones with the army and the police force in the locale in which you reside. You are not a corporation just becuase you have a birth certificate.

You guys are so, so transparent. Funny thing is because everybody here knows the game... and you're soooo bad at this... you actually give the point you're rebutting more credibility.

So thank you for that!

I had no rebuttal because naked insanity doesn't need to be rebutted. Get help man, you are in fact a loon.

Once you start spewing accusations of insanity it's game over. You've exposed yourself. Tell your boss you fucked up.

Lol. "That guy says I'm crazy, he must be a government agent!" said no sane person ever

That ruse stopped working like 2 years ago, dummy.

At this point I'm just fulfilling the role of after school programs. Every second you're here talking to me is another second a lunatic is off the streets.

You really suck at this. Go back to flipping burgers.

I like that idea.

You have the wrong idea of what God is. God is everything, including you. So to answer your question. Humans built the great pyramids, but a human can not lift said pyramid.

We could blow the fuckers up though.

Edit: /s

Lol, that's the paradox. That person's question is kinda dumb, almost childlike.

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I think changetip does a good job with newbies. Follow those links and I think most of your bitcoin questions will be answered. Totally pm me if you have questions you can't figure out though.

Will do, thanks again!

I've always wondered if god knows everything then the game is rigged from the start isn't it?

Not if he forgot he was god :)

Did you know that the rock is God?

Yes. They're called black holes.

no, If God can do anything, than anything god did would just be a single point on a scale with no upper or lower limit. And after god did that thing then he would still be capable of doing anything, which would include outdoing the other thing he just did, into infinity.

The only logical way that God could create a rock so large that he couldn't lift it would be if God stripped himself of his status as God after he created the rock.

So the real question, and the only question when dealing with the limitations of god should he exist, is the question of "Can God choose to no longer be God?"

This.

"Can God choose to no longer be God?"

lol, well its fucking true.

Its the only question that matters when dealing with the limitations of God.

I completely agree, man. That question in itself is literally mind fucking. Cheers!

god cannot do anything, he cant learn he already knows everything

-kent hovind

The answer is yes.

Is God willing to fight evil but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

Is He able but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

Is He both able and willing? Then where does evil come from?

Is He neither able or willing? Then why call him God?

If we are all part of God, shouldn't you assume that we are perfect as we are, war, disease, prejudice and all?

God is perfect. Man isn't (Free will and temptations).

Man has a few steps to go:

• Man can not rise until man recognizes his own imperfections, and perfect them.
• He must link his thoughts to Creation instead of his own selfish existence.
• He must become an adult, and take responsibility for his own sovereignty.

There has been many traps for man to fall into, but the Creator are there to help you help yourself back on your feet. If you want, that is.

Then we can talk change on a grand scale.

The "Illuminati" knows this. Governments only reflect what the citizens "want". It is a democracy after all... By not uniting, which it is all about, you are inadvertently accepting what they are doing. Simply by not denying them.

Fix yourself, and become the adults of the human race, and viola; the world is yours.

Damn, busted.

And none of us should bow to the false god of the State. (First friggin Commandment!!)

This series does a terrific job of breaking it down:

• Servant King Confusion series

And this series tells us what we can do about it:

• Servent King Unraveled series

Here's a guy who appears to have sharpened Marcus's argument to a fine edge:

• Why we all think we are right and everyone else is wrong

• More on establishing your faith in Christ to remove the assumptions of false god judges.

• Person and Citizen trap words to avoid in coming out of Babylon

• Special message to Terry Matchett the man acting as head judge Alberta

tl;dw: The United States corporation actually has zero authority over we natural men and women. It only has authority over other corporations -- such as the one that's created for you by your birth certificate. We're tricked into slavery. Ya really.

• Brief 10 minute summary

Oh I speak my mind here, but I'm not brave enough to pull the license plates and stickers off my car (and pry off the VIN plate), burn my driver's license and passport and tell the borders and police roadblocks "Yo soy con dios!"

It's when the rubber hits the road that I fold.

It would be narcissistic of us as a species to assume "God made us in his image". There's no anthropomorphized monkey man in the sky who throws gays into hell. Heck, we're all an incarnation of this "God". We are the universe experiencing itself. If the universe started with a big bang, and say the universe will end with the big crunch, maybe whatever god is gets bored of being itself and separates entirely until it's all reunited in the end.

This is Pantheism, as espoused my numerous philosophers for many hundreds of years, most famously by Baruch Spinoza.

If what you say is true we technically can do whatever we want. Let's avoid telling the masses that anymore then we already do; they have no self control. Humans are quite powerful, potentially. The spectrum is quite astonishing (from non-essential, "proles" to intelligences that defy comprehension). I think there is some kind of "group mind" consciousness that influences all of us. It may not be "God" but it's damn close and its powerful. You might call it Lucifer. "They" would call it Lucifer. It plays games with us, games that are fun to it and may or may not be fun to us. "God" I think, is like you say, everything. We're supposed to treat everything with respect; animals, plants, rocks.. Not to mention the Earth, your ancestors, the "gods", "God", the stars, nature in general, etc. it's all part of you and your part of it. I have to disagree with your post because I honestly think this IS the time when we SHOULD try to bring truth into the light. THIS IS OUR CHANCE! And death definitely does exist, Haha. You shouldn't fear it but it is definitely unavoidable.

There is no such thing as peace without war in this dualistic reality.

How so?

That's a poor example. The bear is still a carnivore and you cannot make it not one. (Not all are omnivores)

But the bear exists; you can't blame the best for existing. The bear needs blood. It's hard to swallow bit humans are the only animals able to evolve past this cycle.

Right.

Yes I can. Bears are omnivores.

Some of them are even vegetarians. Although Polar Bears are exclusively carnivores.

Yay for facts exposing the non black and white nature of reality!

All of them? You know what I meant.

The perception of dualities is a debilitating stigma that humans desperately cling to.

How can you know that? Have you experienced singularity?

Yes.

How?

You're so adorable it's painful.

Great.

The anthropomorphic god or gods exists and does not exist at the same time. God is the energy that animates life. All life. No matter how much science learns it will never know "god" it can never know the origin of energy.

Even minerals hold onto energy (there's motion in dem atoms). Science cannot explain how this motion began and no religion can teach us why this motion exists.

In antiquity they didn't practice religion as we currently define it. They, just like us, couldn't explain the unexplainable but in pursuit of the definition found knowledge. What they left were visual and verbal interpretations of what they learned but couldn't quite explain.

I for one am no atheist nor theist. I am not afraid to lose my physical life and am in no rush to get to my spiritual life.

It sounds like you would enjoy /r/psychonaut

Have you read the Upanishads? You'd enjoy it

I believe we all are a part of God.

Therefor we all are equal, we are all useless equally, we all have no meaning. We all are family.

Agreed

How?

Right.