Biden is entering the race because the establishment is scared shitless about Bernie Sanders and they know no one likes Hillary.

Biden is not what he seems, that's for sure. If we found out he was part of the pedophile crew, it wouldn't surprise me much. He sure sold Anita Hill down the river and did all he could behind the scenes to get Clarence Thomas to SCOTUS. Fuck him.

establishment is not scared of bs. he plays ball based on his voting record of wars.

he is not challenge the federal reserve nor 9.11

He has "played ball" upon occasion. And I don't hold out a huge amount of hope about the guy. But the country moves upon its foundation depending upon its leadership, and under Sanders the country would move closer to economic equality, I do believe.

because the establishment is scared shitless about Bernie sanders

So when people say he's a wolf in sheep's clothing... what do they mean?

I thinks it's paranoia about him being Jewish.

No, he's actually a leftist jew, but I digress.

Still gets butthurt when people question him over his claims that it's Palestinian aggression that's the main cause and Israel is only being a little bit bad.

He is a progressive Jew. I guess the paranoia is about whether he is a Zionist. That's the big question, right?

Progressive is enough of an indictment for me.

Then we differ politically. Sure seems to me he's at least SAYING the right things, and trying to talk about issues. Even if you don't agree with his positions on those issues, the mere fact that he's trying to run a sober and issue-focused campaign should resonate with you.

I disagree with him on every issue i care about, i don't need to hear his campaign rhetoric to know where he stands.

Oooo-kay. Thanks for your replies.

I don't care for weakassed 'sober' campaigns either. The president of the united states doesn't give the microphone up to loud mouthed welfare fatties, unless he's OLD and FEEBLE.

the establishment is scared shitless about Bernie Sanders

LOL

Perhaps. But what else do you attribute the sudden Biden interest, the attempts to entice Al Gore?

Actually, I believe the opposite. I initially thought Trump was a Clinton plant to throw the GOP into disarray, and he is definitely achieving that, BUT...doesn't Trump make Biden suddenly look electable? Especially with Warren at his side?

Or Trump could just be an egocentric moron with no agenda other than his delusional belief that he could be electable. I think people are giving him far too much credit.

I'm an independent that leans a bit toward the D side, though I did vote for Ron Paul in the last primary. I don't think I could bring myself to vote for any of the candidates on the R side currently. Rand certainly isn't his dad, though many seem to wish he was.

That being said, there's also no way in hell I'd vote for Clinton. If it came down to Clinton vs whoever in the general election, I'd probably find a third party candidate worth backing.

In the primary, I'm leaning toward Sanders at the moment, but I'm curious to hear what Biden has to say, how he'd differentiate himself from Obama. I really wish Warren was running though, I'd vote for her in a heartbeat.

But no way would I vote for Clinton. And I know many other D-leaning people who feel the same way.

Clinton's a crook. Powerful, but maybe too provably crooked to be an inevitability now.

I'm a registered R, so I have no idea who I'd choose in the primary. I'd probably vote for Sanders in the D primary, though.

On the Ron Paul tip, I am extremely disappointed in him. Been a supporter for years and years (and in the primary last go-round, ultimately voted Gary Johnson). Was visiting the folks for whom Fox News is background noise, always running. Dr. Ron comes on, I perk up, excited...and it's a commercial...for a financial snake oil company that shills newsletters. A real Ovaltine moment for me, I am so bummed about this.

Is there anyone you'd recommend I check out on the R side? I'm pretty much only familiar with the "big" names at this point, and haven't done a whole lot of digging into some of the other folks who are running.

I'm a registered Independent, so I can vote in the R or D primary if I wish. I'm not 100% committed to Sanders (I disagree with him on some stuff, agree on others, and like the fact that he doesn't seem to be a mindless parrot), so maybe there's an R out there that I'd like?

I dunno. I watched the debates and while I liked a few of their answers, none of them speak to me and it feels like they're focusing on all the wrong issues. Cruz is a huge no for me due to his associations with folks like Alan Dershowitz. He's very inauthentic--always railing against elites...while he is one. I didn't hate Rubio, Paul, Kasich, or Carson.

Yeah, I've gotten the same vibe from Cruz as from Christie, Huckabee, and Walker -- too many ties, personal and financial, to sketchy people. Paul... I want to like him, but he's not his dad. Though his dad isn't his dad anymore either I guess. Don't know much about the other 3 you mentioned so maybe I'll see what they're about.

I think it has a lot to do with the Democratic party trying to shift the media's focus from Hillary's email ordeal to something that is, as you stated, essentially irrelevant.

On the other hand, Biden could be a backup plan to a Clinton nomination. The Democratic party sees Hillary as a volatile candidate with a lot of skeletons in her closet that could wreck her campaign. And they don't want Bernie Sanders to be the only other viable candidate should this happen for obvious reasons (he isn't subservient to their big donors, for starters).

Either way, this is a ploy the party has been holding in their back pocket for the right time, which they obviously think is now.

Biden is not a stooge. He actually wrote the Patriot Act. Biden and Warren will win the presidency with Bilderberg blessing.

He was working for Bilderberg back in the 1990s. It has everything to do with this. He is the perfect candidate.

Of course she is. It's simple. Doesn't matter who wins. Jeb Bush is as well. No need to rig an election if anyone who wins is already controlled. We are on the same page here. Not sure why you are angry.

Biden wrote Patriot Act I.

He has "played ball" upon occasion. And I don't hold out a huge amount of hope about the guy. But the country moves upon its foundation depending upon its leadership, and under Sanders the country would move closer to economic equality, I do believe.