tactical deception is not the same as outsmarting for survival. It involves fooling large groups of individuals from within its population in order to control. So if we look at humans we can see many examples of this such as religion and magic. Science today is a product of the evolution of religion and it is very much a for profit system not one based on altruism.
Only if it increases my survival chances. Don't really need to, as I'm married and guaranteed to mate. But I'll fool to get a better job and a better deal on a car and such.
So you are saying that if you are married you don't ever want to fuck other people? I can guarantee that isn't true. So I guess you're trying to fool me with that bullshit answer. I guess I pegged you right. You are a guy out for himself but let's the truth fall to the wayside.
You are saying that because being married your survival chances are good but if you are with more with one woman and have kids with them survival goes up even more due to higher genetic variation and higher numbers of offspring. So yes in a way you did say that.
Who's to say I haven't been with others? You seem to be making an awful lot of random assumptions while abandoning any reason. I'd suggest you get off the computer for a minute or two and take some deep breaths, as you seem quite mad over nothing.
You claim that there is no need for you to fool anyone because you are married except to get a better deal on a car. It seems you are backing away from that claim
you don't answer the question or don't seem to realize what you've said. Anyways I'm done talking with you for now. I know you are not here for real discussion just wish to keep me going to keep giving me downvotes.
Sorry that imaginary internet points upset you so much. Maybe you should focus more on the content of your comments rather than other peoples' ratings of them.
Tactical deception (also referred to as functional deception) has been defined as "acts from the normal repertoire of [an] agent, deployed such that another individual is likely to misinterpret what acts signify, to the advantage of the agent"[43] In other words, it is the active use of communicative or display skills already employed by the organism in order to mislead another individual. It has been specified in some studies that this is an intraspecific[44] behaviour, meaning that it occurs between members of the same species. Most other kinds of deception are meant to fool members of a different species. Tactical deception can also be achieved when the deceiver withholds information by failing to perform an expected action, such as giving a warning call when danger is observed. This sort of deception can be costly to the user in that tactical deception mostly occurs in social animals which may lose trust of fellow group-members when their deceit is discovered.
Right. It's not a survival
adaptation but a sexual one. Being in control of your group offers fantastic DNA propagation. The larger the group, the larger the reward for being smarter, more tactical.
The cost may be physical but once the caste system showed up, larger neocortex size became a successful mutation/adaptation.
It's hard for me to picture dick Cheney getting laid all the time. Quite a few of these guys are homosexuals and pedophiles. They get off on spreading their social memes. Social memes are the seed of the neo cortex.
tactical deception is not the same as outsmarting for survival. It involves fooling large groups of individuals from within its population in order to control. So if we look at humans we can see many examples of this such as religion and magic. Science today is a product of the evolution of religion and it is very much a for profit system not one based on altruism.
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2 Jpolky 2015-09-28
So the bigger your brain, the better you are at outsmarting others and increasing your odds of survival. Makes sense!
0 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
tactical deception is not the same as outsmarting for survival. It involves fooling large groups of individuals from within its population in order to control. So if we look at humans we can see many examples of this such as religion and magic. Science today is a product of the evolution of religion and it is very much a for profit system not one based on altruism.
2 Jpolky 2015-09-28
So fooling is outsmarting.
0 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
I guess it depends if you see Intelligence as an ability to discern the truth or an ability to lengthen your own mortality.
0 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
Do you like to fool people?
2 Jpolky 2015-09-28
Only if it increases my survival chances. Don't really need to, as I'm married and guaranteed to mate. But I'll fool to get a better job and a better deal on a car and such.
-1 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
So you are saying that if you are married you don't ever want to fuck other people? I can guarantee that isn't true. So I guess you're trying to fool me with that bullshit answer. I guess I pegged you right. You are a guy out for himself but let's the truth fall to the wayside.
1 Jpolky 2015-09-28
I literally didn't say that.
That's fine, because I didn't say it, you did. Fight the Strawman!
Again, it was your answer, not mine. You're trying to fool yourself.
I'm not into pegging. Thanks for the offer, though.
Ah, yes. The "truth". I guess I'm too busy being an alpha male to care for what you're blathering about. Have a nice day!
-1 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
You are saying that because being married your survival chances are good but if you are with more with one woman and have kids with them survival goes up even more due to higher genetic variation and higher numbers of offspring. So yes in a way you did say that.
1 Jpolky 2015-09-28
Who's to say I haven't been with others? You seem to be making an awful lot of random assumptions while abandoning any reason. I'd suggest you get off the computer for a minute or two and take some deep breaths, as you seem quite mad over nothing.
-1 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
Are you in a polygamist or open marriage?
1 Jpolky 2015-09-28
Are you coming onto me? ;3
-1 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
You claim that there is no need for you to fool anyone because you are married except to get a better deal on a car. It seems you are backing away from that claim
1 Jpolky 2015-09-28
Why do you think I'm backing away?
0 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
you don't answer the question or don't seem to realize what you've said. Anyways I'm done talking with you for now. I know you are not here for real discussion just wish to keep me going to keep giving me downvotes.
0 Jpolky 2015-09-28
Sorry that imaginary internet points upset you so much. Maybe you should focus more on the content of your comments rather than other peoples' ratings of them.
0 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
if they are so insignificant why do you keep down voting me in the first place?
0 Jpolky 2015-09-28
Asserting my male dominance.
0 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
I'm getting a little bitchiness from you but there is absolutely no dominance happening from you whatsoever. What a joke.
0 Jpolky 2015-09-28
Whatever you want to believe, you can believe.
0 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
You as well
-1 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
I don't think you get it though
1 Jpolky 2015-09-28
Care to explain it, then?
0 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
Tactical deception (also referred to as functional deception) has been defined as "acts from the normal repertoire of [an] agent, deployed such that another individual is likely to misinterpret what acts signify, to the advantage of the agent"[43] In other words, it is the active use of communicative or display skills already employed by the organism in order to mislead another individual. It has been specified in some studies that this is an intraspecific[44] behaviour, meaning that it occurs between members of the same species. Most other kinds of deception are meant to fool members of a different species. Tactical deception can also be achieved when the deceiver withholds information by failing to perform an expected action, such as giving a warning call when danger is observed. This sort of deception can be costly to the user in that tactical deception mostly occurs in social animals which may lose trust of fellow group-members when their deceit is discovered.
2 Browsondapoop 2015-09-28
Right. It's not a survival adaptation but a sexual one. Being in control of your group offers fantastic DNA propagation. The larger the group, the larger the reward for being smarter, more tactical.
The cost may be physical but once the caste system showed up, larger neocortex size became a successful mutation/adaptation.
-1 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
It's hard for me to picture dick Cheney getting laid all the time. Quite a few of these guys are homosexuals and pedophiles. They get off on spreading their social memes. Social memes are the seed of the neo cortex.
1 ClavicepsTex 2015-09-28
Your faith in women is somewhat misplaced.
0 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
I have my faith in women, however the balance of power in how we live our lives is severely tilted.
-1 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
I don't think you get it though
0 Bgriff42 2015-09-28
tactical deception is not the same as outsmarting for survival. It involves fooling large groups of individuals from within its population in order to control. So if we look at humans we can see many examples of this such as religion and magic. Science today is a product of the evolution of religion and it is very much a for profit system not one based on altruism.