Race: The Power of An ILLUSION.
0 2015-10-19 by no1113
The division of the world's peoples into distinct groups - "red," "black," "white" or "yellow" peoples - has became so deeply imbedded in our psyches, so widely accepted, many would promptly dismiss as crazy any suggestion of its falsity. Yet, that's exactly what this provocative, new three-hour series by California Newsreel claims. Race - The Power of an Illusion questions the very idea of race as biology, suggesting that a belief in race is no more sound than believing that the sun revolves around the earth.
42 comments
3 The_Free_Marketeer 2015-10-19
One race - human. Many ethnicities... It's simple.
3 no1113 2015-10-19
Sounds about right. Agreed.
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
OK, but you are just swapping out the term "race" for the term "ethnicity."
You can also group ethnicities into larger groups. Now, hmm, what would we call those larger groups? Hmm, maybe "race" - oh wait. Nevermind.
1 The_Free_Marketeer 2015-10-19
Race is an ignorant use of language from the 19th century. Ethnicity is an actual thing. They are not interchangeable terms.
Care to point out where it mentions skin tone?
An ethnic group or ethnicity is a socially defined category of people who identify with each other based on common ancestral, social, cultural or national experience.
... Social conceptions and groupings of races vary over time, involving folk taxonomies that define essential types of individuals based on perceived traits. Scientists consider biological essentialism obsolete, and generally discourage racial explanations for collective differentiation in both physical and behavioral traits.
-1 jacks1000 2015-10-19
I'm sorry, "Scientists" are not some monolithic group that all "believe" the same things.
"Scientists" are not "priests" that get to dictate from on high what everyone is supposed to believe.
1 The_Free_Marketeer 2015-10-19
You are sorry. Words aren't "theories" to believe, they're sounds used to describe things.
"Scientists" aren't dictating what you believe dumbass, you are choosing to believe something that was defined by bigots and supremacists.
-1 jacks1000 2015-10-19
Awww, that's cute.
Those damned scientists with their "genetics" and "science!"
1 The_Free_Marketeer 2015-10-19
It's accurate, not cute.
And now you flip your position... Fuckin dipshit. Make up your mind.
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
WTF are you even talking about?
1 The_Free_Marketeer 2015-10-19
"Scientists" are not "priests" that get to dictate from on high what everyone is supposed to believe.
And then.
Those damned scientists with their "genetics" and "science!"
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
Do you even understand how science works?
Hint: it's not a democracy. They don't take a vote.
2 [deleted] 2015-10-19
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1 SovereignMan 2015-10-19
Rule 10. No personal attacks. Removed.
1 The_Free_Marketeer 2015-10-19
No problem.
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
Wow, that's like a really great argument there, The_Free_Marketeer.
Are all your positions so well thought out? /s
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
LOL - I get it.
These guys know that claiming to be "against racism" is like the easiest way to get agreement and internet points. I mean, everybody is "against racism" so it's an easy way to get people to agree with you.
It's like being "against cancer" or being "against hate" or "pro-rainbows and puppy dogs."
So, of course, the idiotic notion that the "elite" or whatever brainwashes people into "racism" is supposed to be an easy way to get populism points. The Official Bad Guys - really, the only people you are allowed to criticize, are these nefarious and shadowy "elites" that no one can really define.
So these invisible "elites" are supposedly brainwashing people to be "racist" and no one would ever argue otherwise, except maybe a RACIST.
I'm sorry, I spoiled the fun, assuming that you would actually have a real point to make. First, it's like "there's no such thing as race" but then it's like "well maybe there is a such thing as race but don't be a RACIST" and then it's like "the elites have brainwashed you to believe race exists except it doesn't unless you're a racist then it does."
LOL. It's like arguing with 5 year olds.
1 no1113 2015-10-19
Oh I get it.
This guy still actually thinks I'm reading his posts. LOL
Poor, misguided idiot.
Oh well. I guess I certainly hope he enjoyed typing out that wall of text, because it wasn't actually read.
smh
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
That's adorable - now it's holding its hands in its ears saying "nah nah nah I'm not listening to you!"
LOL
1 no1113 2015-10-19
The ignorant troll has to continue feeling relevant somehow, so he keeps responding. Sad. Very funny, but sad.
Keep thinking your posts are getting read.
Hint: They're not.
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
He lost so now he's resorting to childish name-calling.
Which is it, no1113? Does race exist or doesn't it?
Are the "elites" promoting "racism" or are they promoting "anti-racism?"
You know I'm right, that's why you are getting so angry.
1 no1113 2015-10-19
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3pbivx/race_the_power_of_an_illusion/cw5syat
-1 jacks1000 2015-10-19
Genetics doesn't real!
2 no1113 2015-10-19
...what...does this mean?
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
It means genetics are RACIST, that's what.
Only HITLER believes in genetics!
2 no1113 2015-10-19
Genetics exist. They just shouldn't be the arbiter of racial judgment, stratification, or any sort of supposed "superiority". That is an incorrect application of genetics.
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
Um, you can tell what race someone is by their genetics.
Oh wait, except "race doesn't exist."
Except for white people being "racist" right?
I don't think you people have thought this through.
1 no1113 2015-10-19
By racial judgement, I meant racist judgement - not the same thing/same word, I understand, and for that I acknowledge the mistake made.
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
What does that even mean?
2 no1113 2015-10-19
Sigh. People having prejudicial perspectives on the basis of ones race. Does that help you?
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
That's a universal human trait though.
2 no1113 2015-10-19
It is a trait that has been indoctrinated into the masses by decades (if not centuries) of divide and conquer strategies. Your giving into the "it's just a universal trait!" thinking doesn't make what I just stated any less correct.
And even if it were some sort of "universal trait" (which, again, it's not), racism is never anything that must somehow necessarily result from acknowledging any such differences.
Eating being necessary, as but one example, in no way necessarily means that one somehow has to therefore become some sort of uncontrolled, compulsive glutton as a result. The existence or acknowledgment of race in no way whatsoever means that one has to take any such differentiation and stratify it toward any sort of racist extreme.
Ever.
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
Um, no. Even BABIES are "racist." "Racism" is natural, it's normal, in fact, you even see "racism" in the animal kingdom.
I'm sorry, you people just don't make a lick of sense. First, it's "race isn't real." But then it is real, because of genetics. But wait, it's really just propaganda from "the elite" or whatever to "divide" groups of people that have NEVER even been united.
You know what I think? I think the reality is that YOU are the ones that have been indoctrinated. The reality is "the elites" do NOTHING but preach against "racism," say "racism is bad."
The fact of the matter is "anti-racism" is exactly what the elites/government/mass media pushes.
The exact OPPOSITE of what you people claim.
What planet are you people living on?
1 no1113 2015-10-19
Um, no. Actually babies are not âracistâ. Doesnât matter how hard you want to try to continue rationalizing your own racist ideals, but the opposite is actually the case.
Reading the rest of what you posted, itâs really obvious that youâre simply not even thinking straight. I donât even know if you really have the capacity for it at this point - you seem so far gone off the deep end.
The really sad thing about all this is that you people who advocate racist ideologies are actually the very ones that contribute to the type of manipulation that ensure that YOU YOURSELVES remain manipulated and disadvantaged. Itâs likeâŚyou donât even understand the deep irony of that. smh
The extreme level of ignorance you show is pitiful and sad. I can't even get angry at you. I just shake my head in sadness for how ignorant some of you are.
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
Oh I get it, you aren't interested in facts here, you are just making shit up off the top of your head.
http://time.com/67092/baby-racists-survival-strategy/
The facts are obvious. "Anti-racism" is promoted by the government, the media, the schools, and virtually ever single institution of society. Being called a "racist" can get you fired and even charged with a crime.
Yet you want people to believe that the "elites" are actually promoting racism - when it's precisely and exactly the OPPOSITE of that.
Fact of the matter is, you are so utterly brainwashed by "the elite" into believing in "anti-racism" you have literally lost touch with reality.
You are ignorant of science, history, and propaganda apparently. Nice try.
1 no1113 2015-10-19
The sad thing is that none of this does anything to the points I ultimately made.
You're just plain ignorant. Period.
You conveniently ignored literally everything else that was said.
You are the reason why this planet is considered as backward as it is. smh
-1 jacks1000 2015-10-19
Oh I get it, you aren't interested in facts here, you are just making shit up off the top of your head.
http://time.com/67092/baby-racists-survival-strategy/
The facts are obvious. "Anti-racism" is promoted by the government, the media, the schools, and virtually ever single institution of society. Being called a "racist" can get you fired and even charged with a crime.
Yet you want people to believe that the "elites" are actually promoting racism - when it's precisely and exactly the OPPOSITE of that.
Fact of the matter is, you are so utterly brainwashed by "the elite" into believing in "anti-racism" you have literally lost touch with reality.
You are ignorant of science, history, and propaganda apparently. Nice try.
2 no1113 2015-10-19
The sad thing is that none of this does anything to the points I ultimately made.
You're just plain ignorant. Period.
You conveniently ignored literally everything else that was said.
You are the reason why this planet is considered as backward as it is. smh
-1 jacks1000 2015-10-19
You don't even seem to know what the word "ignorant" means. Hint: it doesn't mean "someone who disagrees with me."
Really, try to be honest with yourself. Does the government promote "racism" or "anti-racism?"
Is it legal, or illegal, to discriminate racially in hiring?
Do public schools teach that racism is good, or bad?
So your idea that "the elites" or whoever "brainwash people into racism" is just plain wrong, now isn't it?
Really, try to be honest with yourself. You know I'm right, you're just having cognitive dissonance because of your indoctrination.
2 no1113 2015-10-19
Since you didn't address the very thing that does away with your entire tired argument, I'll post it again:
I understand that part of being on this "planet of ignorance" involves dealing with certain types that are just extremely closed minded and that's all there is to it. It doesn't make your existence any less repugnant an abomination, however.
-1 jacks1000 2015-10-19
Can you even DEFINE "racist extreme?" First you say race doesn't exist. Then, you say it does. Make up your mind.
Yes, can you see how you are being extremely closed minded? Answer the question - do the "elites" teach "racism" or "anti-racism?"
You know the answer is that the government, the corporate media, the schools, big business, both political parties - ALL - ALL of them - are 100% united "against racism."
But you are trying very hard to make the opposite case - which you know, if you were honest with yourself - is not true.
See, that's just silly. Your cognitive dissonance is SO BAD now that you are lashing out angrily precisely because you know I'm right.
2 no1113 2015-10-19
Keep holding on to your racism. Seems that's likely the only think keeping you together, unfortunately.
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
So are you going to admit that you are wrong, and that "the elite" does NOT brainwash people into "racism" but precisely the opposite, they promote "anti-racism?"
1 no1113 2015-10-19
The sad thing is that none of this does anything to the points I ultimately made.
You're just plain ignorant. Period.
You conveniently ignored literally everything else that was said.
You are the reason why this planet is considered as backward as it is. smh
0 jacks1000 2015-10-19
He lost so now he's resorting to childish name-calling.
Which is it, no1113? Does race exist or doesn't it?
Are the "elites" promoting "racism" or are they promoting "anti-racism?"
You know I'm right, that's why you are getting so angry.