Anyone who frequents /r/poltics can definitely tell there has been WAY more anti-sanders/Pro Hillary postings in the last month

Very true. Many of them new accounts

A bit late to this conversation: here are some ways to tell if someone is astroturfing:

• Comments appear without much context. The less contextually appropriate they are (example: someone responding to a post that says A is great, but they say but B is better even in an unrelated area) If the conversation doesn't "flow", basically.

• Accounts are new and have little to no content, and their steered content is posted very recently after account registration. Oftentimes to avoid looking like an astroturfing account they will post to an unrelated area two-three times, and make periodic other posts. If content is more than 50% related to a cause and said cause was within very close proximity to a registration, odds are good it's astroturfing (not always though).

• Said posts are done in the most visible areas. An astroturfer will very unlikely respond to a post that's relatively unseen in most cases. This is for obvious reasons: more eyes are better. If an account has no posts in low traffic areas, more likely an astroturfer. A fanatic will usually post where people can't see anything, an astroturfer will go where the eyes are.

• Astroturfers use a few methods to find places to post but the one of the biggest (other than simply knowing the big areas to post, big forums, popular article comments etc) are RSS feeds with keywords related to what they're astroturfing. This is why the out-of-context stuff happens a lot. Something pops up on a feed and they respond even if it has no bearing on the conversation at hand. Depending on the tools they use (some are more advanced and can derive the value of a conversation), a thread will pop up and they will be encouraged to respond to that thread. So if a thread isn't likely to be picked up by some sort of search criteria, it's unlikely to be astroturfing.

• They never give up until you don't respond even if it's repeating the same thing over and over again. Basically this is to drag people through the mud.

The biggest astroturfing I've ever seen was on Reddit with regards to fracking. It had to be the single worst astroturfing job ever because every single thread related to fracking that came up had like 8-12 dudes come in and pop up with some irrelevant bullshit and say fracking is actually good for the environment even if the conversation wasn't really that fracking oriented and with zero context with their talking points.

I am not saying Hillary is doing this, BTW, I don't have eyes everywhere or anything. those are just trademarks of how people do this. Unfortunately I may have made it easier for astroturfers to avoid being noticed haha. But buys in the comments sections/forums are a better bang for your buck than actually trying to have an article shill for you since more people trust the comment sections of articles than articles themselves.

I have no relation to any astroturfing campaigns or anything of the such, but I see it in my job.

(Raises hand) What is astroturfing?

Astroturfing is basically a fake grass-roots movement. It would be like a company planting fake reviews for their product all over the internet, and making it appear that many people are interested in a product. In this case, it is a lot of fake accounts voicing their opinion that Hillary is the best presidential choice. The idea is that people who are not as educated/invested in politics and do not have strong views, will find this information and be persuaded by it.

Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. :)

I did not know either ty

Astroturfing is the practice of hiding the sponsors of a message or organization to make it appear as if it comes from and is supported by grassroots participants. The Tea Party Movement is a great example; while on the surface it appears to be a spontaneous movement that originated by normal, everyday people, in actuality it's both heavily funded and organized by large political groups who in turn are funded by Charles and David Koch, two far right-wing billionaires.

It's not only done in politics. Sometimes corporations will try to make it look like a product or service is more popular than it really is by using these tactics. For example Amazon and Yelp keep having to fight off people paid to give good reviews and sometimes bloggers are paid for endorsements but don't disclose that. There's even a related practice where an ad is disguised as a news article.

Gotcha -- didn't realize it was called that. Thank you!

Tea party isn't a good analogy since it is like 50/50.

...'trust the comment sections' might be the ultimate expression of thought lazy - marketing schemes are killing our rational...

They are so obvious you could name them. They have even started to weasel their way into /r/SandersForPresident

Redfiz, Hillaryuberallies, Hillary4prez, flantabulous, Jonahrod20, nowwhathappenedwas, sleekery, Zeno, a few new ones that they swap like meat suits.

Sleekeree is a Monsant0 troll, too. Makes sense, I guess, because their nasty online behavior is kind of the same. Kind of wonder why PR firms don't mix it up a little bit username-wise...

My guess is that they believe users are stupid enough to not notice.

They're all about quantity of posts, not quality - in my non-PR opinion.

Bullying seems to be their modus. It's weird that no one can notice the backfiring. Exposés every day about conflicts of interest, suspect research, paid PR placing articles in newspapers, "scientists" accepting cash for advocacy...putting their bylines on papers written by industry and their PR firms...they're destroying science (and our environment!) with $cience...

spot on

I know those names. If you reddit during early morning hours or late at night, when overall site usage is lower, you'll see those same exact handful of names popup along with a number of bs fluff articles or snarky comments as to why Hillary is inevitable and nobody should bother campaigning for anyone else

I've already put all their posts on Ignore

If it is a legitimate troll, isn't it better to either downvote or point out? (via some sort of copy-pasta?)

Not everyone will go out of their way to ignore trolls that they're not even sure about.

Though if it helps your sanity, then maybe it's worth it.

ignoring them shows they posted, just hides what they have to say

easy to go around and just downvote them when you see the big IGNORED tag next to their names, without having to bother to read their shiz

I've got a monster list I'd love to post somewhere

How do you ignore people on Reddit? I'd love to mute the trolls.

reddit enhancement suite

Anyone who frequents /r/poltics can definitely tell there has been WAY more anti-sanders/Pro Hillary postings in the last month

It goes back way further than that. 2008/2012 were huge as well. Anyone criticizing Obama for drone strike policy or the like were attacked and disregarded as Romney or McCain supporters.

Reddit has been a big enough forum since then to receive significant focus.

Well...there is also the /u/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY user account which somehow, in 3 months, gathered 90,000ish and 70,000ish link karma and comment karma in about 90 days. Thats 3000 link karma a day.

Shill.

I'm no shill ;)

But thats what all the shills say....

Looking at your comment/submission history, it's a ton of spam. It's obviously a paid account.

Right after Super Tuesday 2. Droves.

LOL what? proof?

/r/politics is a sanders circlejerk through and through.

They underestimated the strength of the circle jerk.

Duh, there will always be anti-misogynistic anti-white-privilege and anti-racist posts, it's only taken until now for people to start to wake up. What is sad is that it took people this long to do this, simply because deep down most white people have this idea about womyn and hold bigoted views towards them.

So, instead of thousands of Bernie jerk posts, there's only been hundreds a day?

And am I supposed to sympathize that one side is now shilling as much as the other?

Both sides are deplorable. I'd like to kick the shit out of everyone that's turned reddit into a political shitpile. Fuck all candidates.

Name checks out^

The Sanders campaign needs to wise up to these underhanded attacks. DailyKos is the place to find them. DailyKos's supposed goal is to elect more and better Democrats. All it really does is spew a constant stream of "Look at those crazy Republicans" diaries while totally ignoring what a bunch of losers the Democrats have. The website's real goal is to get Hillary elected, even though she is everything that is wrong with the Democratic Party.

And has everyone forgotten Hilary already bought most of her Facebook likes, it's not a stretch to think she'd go deeper trying to create a false truth.

The only reason she seems halfway electable is because she's bought so many shills to say that she is.

Yep. $500,000 of taxpayer dollars, for Facebook likes. She's so cheap when it comes to her own cash, I wonder how she's getting taxpayer dollars to help fund her Reddit trolls, ugh. Can bet no matter how she's figured it, it'll be funded via tax-free vehicles.

Why would you think it's "taxpayer dollars"? You know our elections aren't publicly funded, right? She's got super PACs, private donations and the like.

She spent State Department funds to get likes for her State Department pages. A whole bunch of money for fake Facebook profiles and Twitter accounts.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/03/state-department-facebook-likes-spent-630000_n_3541734.html

Please please please make this go viral.

Who would run this outside of social, the rest of the media is already purchased? Maybe Fox would get ravenous on it?

Forget the media I mean I just want people to know this.

Social is what's important. This is how news spreads, now.

I saw this via a friend on FB.

Here's a few more confessions:

• Fracking shill whistleblower spills the beans on Fracking Internet PR

• Shill whistleblower, claims to have derailed discussions and called people anti-semites, ruined reputations of users by searching their account history, amongst other things.

• Whistleblower and subsequent investigation: Paid trolls on /r/Bitcoin

And the point is?

Just to set the record straight....

The post was removed by us on /r/SandersForPresident because the OP failed to provide any proof of his employment with the Clinton campaign.

We didn't remove it for any other reason other than that. If he provides substantial proof that he is who he says he is, and that the campaign is implementing the strategy that he says they are, then we'd likely allow the content. But until then, it's no different than saying something like, "I met Obama at a bar once and he spit on my baby!"

Anyways. That's all. I've seen people suggest that we, the mods, are Hillary shills. This is false. We've been campaigning for Bernie since before Bernie even had a campaign. I wish I got paid for this work, though...

Let's dispel this notion once and for all that Obama doesn't know what he's doing. He knew exactly what he was doing when he spit on my baby.

That's not the change America needs, my friend.

You're alright.

Overnight Kos has posted that you gave different reasons for pulling the thread:

<From Daily Kos Staff: (9:15 PM Pacific) The original author of this piece, quoted here in full, was suspended by the admins of /r/SandersForPresident subreddit for using multiple different fake IDs (but same IP address) and numerous claims of being a shill from big oil to airline companies, he/she issued repeated mea culpas about life as a shill. This post is five months old and has been debunked numerous times. In general, linking /r/conspiracy is not a good idea.

Is this true, and did you find information consistent with this person posting as multiple industry shills using different usernames from the same IP address?

Here's some thoughts:

1) There are people in this very thread who are willing to shill for Hilary.

2) This is not the only confession. More are in the comments here.

3) Shills exist and come from a wide variety of governments and corporations. All of this is admitted in the mainstream press. See here.

So, this should not be a surprise. That's really all I wanted to say. I'm also curious about this statement: "If he provides substantial proof..." Has there been some evidence provided to you guys?

No. He disappeared without a word and we messaged him within minutes of his posting, so it's not like we missed the window.

Thanks for the clarification.

Maybe the black helicopters got him ;)

mmrmph! mrrmmph!

Here's some thoughts:

You can have them back.

It's a tough balance, and I get that. We all gotta work toward the same goal.

Mods like you are why people are migrating to Voat.

Not that I disagree with this policy but, I have left that subreddit due to its micromanagement. As others I have talked to have.

Understandable. Hard to find the line between "do what's good for a typical subreddit" and "do what's good for a political campaign."

As much as we love hitting /r/all thanks to clickbaity headlines and self-congratulatory poll results, those things don't get people registered to vote, and they don't educate uninformed voters. Reddit already knows about Bernie. Gotta get the word out to everyone else, now.

This concept is necessary to show the sub that the playing field isn't level. I've noticed the increase in shills over the past few weeks too. If you don't know they are shills it does get into your pysche.

This is what I was talking about. The censorship. Give it some misleading flair or something. This may or may not be true, but it sounds legitimate. We should be able to discuss it at /r/SandersforPresident

The only reason I saw this is because of one of those lovely meme based fb groups you directed me to.

Sounds legitimate

I don't even know what that means. Anything can "sound legitimate* if it's said in the right way. Language can be very persuasive, and the OP could very easily provide proof of his or her employment, or really anything that reaffirms the claims. Yet no proof has been given.

We'd do the exact same thing with any tale like this one, regardless of whether it's anti-Hillary, anti-Bernie, or anti-Trump.

But would you if you were in his position? There are enough ways to screw people's lives up in the USA.

In the current climate what information can you even trust any longer without vetting it personally but that is unrealistic with all the topics involved?

Marking such threads in a certain way makes more sense to me than filtering them so the reader can make up his own mind.

I think removing this post from Sanders4President was a mistake. Possibly a big one, if this issue passes by without much scrutiny.

There was literally zero proof of it's validity.

It could be anyone making up anything and we'd be spreading it around as fact, and encouraging others to do so.

Largest pro-Bernie organization gets trolled and spreads around false conspiracy theory about Hillary.

or

Bernie supporters launch smear campaign against Hillary

That's a potential headline we're looking at. I mean, we've had plenty of news outlets cover our behavior (outcries about debate results, mostly) and it makes us look like a bunch of petulant children. And you're suggesting we want MORE of that?

The OP was asked to provide proof. ANY proof. Anything. He or she didn't even reply. That's a pretty big red flag if you ask me. You'd think someone who is so willing to convert people from Hillary to Bernie would also be willing to provide proof to make the argument even more compelling, right?

Don't have proof of him personally being paid, but there is proof that people are paid to troll for Hillary....

http://usuncut.com/politics/clinton-super-pac-busted/

If it's a fake, it's a brilliant fake and if I could think of fakes like that I'd be rich.

....down to the part about Trump supporters being curiously resistant to Hillary's mind control.

I think if you left the thread, we would have been more likely to find out the truth than when it was deleted.

It was, abolutely. S4P has been making many mistakes lately. Especially Tues/Thurs rule which make me feel far less enthusiam than I otherwise would being able to discuss and read other people discussion of the news of the day.

Can you give me a number so i can become a paid shill? I will promote any agenda for some cash.

lol

me too. I already spend too much time on Reddit. Might as well get paid for it.

Yeah, but the people paying for shilling are AWFUL. I feel shitty enough spending so much time on Reddit, spending time pushing shitty people's evil agendas on Reddit would be serious suicide territory.

I fully support this ideaology

Think you can delete the identifying characteristics (race, age, gender, what he/she did this morning?) in this to protect the whistleblower? It may be too late, but anything you can do in the event that this is legit (my money's on it being legit, so, protecting this person is important but even if the person is not legit, what's it hurt to hide their identifying info?).

It'd be very easy for Hillary's people to figure out who this is and they are VERY vengeful if history's any judge.

good idea, but it can still be viewed after an edit, there's a 'view the difference' link in the upper right corner.

http://pastebin.com/diff.php?i=qqNTbgkx

You're fucking deluded if you think this is real.

I'm not saying this is false flag, but this is what it would look like.

This is the exact content her remaining peers would be paid to post...if it's even real to begin with.

Would be a lot more interesting if the overarching message wasn't GoBern!

Although I'm not a bernie supporter as I don't believe voting will change a thing, I totally endorse the anything but Shillary policy. She is just the worst human being.

A very small number of people have spent a lot of money on a massive social conditioning experiment to get you to believe that voting can not change anything. The fact that you have been so thoroughly convinced that you are freely propagating it is terribly sad. It also demonstrates how once you overcome the barrier of convincing a large group, that group will spread it even further than the elites could have ever accomplished. With enough believers, the lie that voting doesn't matter becomes truth.

THIS THIS THIS. People, please don't fall for it. Go vote when and where you can. Don't fall for the disinfo campaigns.

When they are fucking with the voting machines, it kinda doesn't.

Virginia trashed their WinVote boxes for a paper-trail validated ballot this year. Work against those demons is also succeeding.

Source?

Are you serious? Just because you get to choose out a pile of turds doesn't mean that you had a choice. There is a reason things are the way they are, and if somebody really become a viable threat they would be silenced. Neutralized. Murdered. This is why Obama ran on hope and change, and the day he got in office, it was as if there was never a new administration. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Consider the people running for president, the vast majority of them come from congress or governors. We are basically limited to only picking our president from this pool. Outsiders sometimes try to run but they basically always flop because they have no real experience in getting anything done. This is a problem, has been a problem for a while, and will continue being a problem in the foreseeable future, because this pool has a lot of rotten eggs that are already sell outs. Why is this pool a bunch of sellouts? Because they are almost exclusively picked from a different pool: the state congresses. This is where the real problem is. These politicians often times run unopposed and run completely unchecked because there is zero voter apathy at this level. At this level elite have massive influence over politician's prospects of getting elected because an even higher percent of the money in local politics come from people very well off in those communities. This is the real filter, the elites are able to pick the people who get to even start at the base of the ladder.

Imagine the government is a company that almost always gets upper management through promotions. If you allow a filter so that only one type of person is allowed entry level positions, eventually that type of person will fill the board of directors and CEO positions. This is where we are in the government. We have had record apathy in local politics for a generation because we have been convinced it doesn't matter.

To suggest that Obama and Bush were just continuations is just stupid. Obama didn't give us the change he promised because he thought that once he was elected congress/politicians would see the error of their ways and allow changes. This didn't happen because the population didn't care once he got elected about that. The population was focused on specific issues and at no point were a significant number of people loudly complaining that a politician might lose their job if something didn't happen.

Politicians being silenced, neutralized, or murdered basically doesn't happen. Of course you can point to speculation of an example or two but that doesn't mean it is universal. If it were universal the offenders would get caught. There are enough people that raise issues that don't back down to suggest that it can't be universal. The politicians that want to change things against the establishment don't get elected because they don't get support at the local level, not because they get killed off or blackmailed or whatever you are implying.

If you want a government that is working for you, make it possible for politicians to have a job working for you. Right now they basically can't.

if somebody really become a viable threat they would be silenced. Neutralized. Murdered. This is why Obama ran on hope and change, and the day he got in office, it was as if there was never a new administration.

Obama was bought by wall street during his campaign, and his "hope and change" was just empty platitudes for people to fill in with whatever they personally believed. Basically a pretend socialist. This was obvious to anyone who was actually paying attention. OpenSecrets is not a big secret or anything.

While yes, lots of our Actually Liberal brothers have an uncanny habit of getting a bullet in the head/mouth, it's not a 100% guarantee and besides what else have I to pass those ten minutes with.

I'm actually surprised that you think he was only just bought during his campaign. I see no reason to believe that he was ever anything else than a proxy and a Manchurian candidate. Carefully selected and created because he fit a certain agenda his controller decided to implement.

Although I'm not a bernie supporter as I don't believe voting will change a thing

"If voting meant anything, they wouldn't let you do it" vs "Something good might not happen so I might as well not even try."

Myself, I feel like I'd have to be less than a slug to not vote for the guy - we're never going to be given this chance to crush neoliberal reaganism ever again. I can stand in line for ten minutes with a book and punch a hole in a card if it helps avoid all the world lines where Hillary is president.

But I completely get where you're coming from; this will be the first time in my life I bother even trying.

And hey that's saying something. We all see what personalities and momentum can do to change the course of history. What if, like you, a lot of people bothered to try because we saw something in some guy? Then we actually did what he calls for- participate and hold these pieces of crap accountable. If they don't represent us, get them out and put in someone who will. We start paying attention instead of being disillusioned. We start feeling in control again. I don't think it's a dream, and right now might be the best chance we've had in a long time.

"If voting meant anything, they wouldn't let you do it" vs "Something good might not happen so I might as well not even try."

If voting meant nothing, then they would let you do it, and might even encourage it.

"human being" isn't that a bit of a stretch?

This needs more attention.

In any case, the final nail in the coffin for me happened last night. I was on an imageboard trying to rile up the Trump-supporting natives with inflammatory Bernie posting, and the sum of responses I received basically argued that at least Bernie was genuine in his belief, even if they disagreed with his positions, which made him infinitely better than the 100% amoral and power-hungry Hillary.

I had one of those "what are you doing with your life" moments.

Only 4chan could believe that a presidential campaign would seriously pay people to troll 4chan.

4chan has a huge userbase, that's all that matters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FFG1NqKzCg

That's where I realized that, if the article is fake, it's a masterful fake.

"the blacks"

Some things never change

You're referring to what now?

They still haven't changed their IP addresses:

http://i.imgur.com/pe9Jme4.png

They're all Shopify IPs. They can't change them.

and the IP addresses mean nothing except that they're all Shopify stores.

Wow. Sad that you can get so caught up making the doughnuts you don’t even realize what they have slid you into. Happens everyday in corporate. You wake up and realize you are just doing it for the money and realize you now have more in common with a drug addicted prostitute than you realized. I finally left once I realized I had zero control of my destiny at that place after 15 years.

Months ago I posted about this on DailyKos, because it was so obvious to anyone with a brain what the Clinton campaign was doing. My comment was promptly "Hidden" on DailyKos, and I was subsequently banned there.

*shrug*

Just as well, Markos Moulitsas has become an obnoxious little prig. I've no desire to contribute even one more pixel to him.

Trump will be waiting for you when that lying bitch gets the nomination. I'm truly glad you saw the light.

What did she lie about?

She said she loved you.

Everything.

Nice fanfiction.

"We received very specific instructions about how and what to post"

It would be most useful if someone could obtain a copy of these instructions.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CodersForSanders/comments/3rw6kj/anthillary_shill_detection_bot/

Would love anyone's help here

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This was more than obvious. But on Daily Kos, the big guy himself, Kos, said you would get banned if you were to imply that the trolls were paid. Not a reality-based community as they claim.

Well, I knew this was happening right after Bernie announced and I joined some Bernie groups. There were these omnipresent nice ladies who were scolding and lecturiong anyone who mentioned anything critical about Hillary. They called any discussion about her record "bashing," and reiterated repeatedly that "Bernie wouldn't do it."

Then, they started calling Bernie supporters "bullies." I realized that was an organized project when some gal wrote on a reddit thread that there would be more blogs coming out soon about the "Bernie bullies." Oops

They have been very organized, to be sure. I just watched this video about a Hillary dirty trickster who is attributing a tacky video to Bernie sponsorship, and the code clearly links to a Hillary operative. She really does NOT need to do that. She should just lay out her real policies which are not "democratic socialism" and more Status Quo. A lot of people may be comfortable with that.

I'm not. But she apparently has many supporters that do not care what her positions are. They will be loyal. She doesn't have to be a dirtbag.

"an old white male relic that believed women enjoyed being gang raped"

Yeah, this is what bullying actually looks like.

The OP of that is a RL friend of mine. I don't want to say to much as I don't want him to get in trouble. The company he worked for found out about post and threatedn lawsuit for breaking NDA. They said they wouldn't sue him if he removed post.

I can't really say anything more sorry.

If they sue him the whole thing goes public. They also have to prove that it is him. He should say "It wasn't me so go fuck yourselves".

Unless he used their computer to do it.

Anyone notice that the deport racism and billforhilary2016 have the same layout?

http://i.imgur.com/TsVkkAD.png

http://i.imgur.com/udnfhZk.png

I wonder how many of him are out there.

consider how much money billionares have to spend.

Seriously. But $100 bucks a week to sell your soul? WTF? Why not just bartend or something?

yeah. Ill need at least $1000/week.

Good luck, judging by the quality of shill I fight on a daily on Reddit, I don't know if they're even getting $100. They're TURRIBLE.

The Clinton's aren't billionaires, wrong.

No they're merely multimillionaires, but the Hillary campaign's backbone is SuperPACs funded by the likes of Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup and Morgan Stanley.

Lots. Run into them every day on Reddit. It's a massive waste of taxpayer dollars - they ALWAYS use tax-free vehicles to pay PR companies if we taxpayers aren't already overtly picking up the tab. It's fucked up and it's always surprising what absurd "interest" is being shilled and how nastily they're behaving.

Such a waste of money. They're always transparent and the way they interact with the public almost always turns regular people against the interests they're being paid to support. Funny how that works...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLNFsl130_Y&amp;feature=youtu.be

I miss this guy

As a die hard Bernie supporter all I can say is this post is highly suspicious. It reads like a planted post designed to discredit Sander's supporters, or as a besmirching campaign to spew hatred at Hillary. Either one is unacceptable.

None of the alleged posting claims have actually surfaced anywhere and they are fantastic and extreme in nature. This aside from the fact that it would be idiotic of anyone to officially distribute such incriminating instructions, let alone explain the rational behind them to paid staff.

I know mistrust of Hillary is running high, and I can understand that with regards to the type of shenanigans the DNC has been pulling and the attacks the Hillary campaign has launched at Sanders in the wake of the security leak, however it is important to resist the temptation to be dragged into disseminating dubious information and unsubstantiated rumors.

There is no evidence what so ever regarding the identity of the poster, and unless there was concrete proof, I would urge everyone to resist the temptation to engage in this slander. It is not going to advance Sanders' campaign one iota.

Here's some proof of the tactics, I have no proof of him personally....

http://usuncut.com/politics/clinton-super-pac-busted/

Damage control here.

Yeah, it's literally running through almost every criticism of Sanders to cover it as "conspiracy." Like, I don't think this poster missed a single one.

I admire the campaign, but damn, you don't fix problems with your campaign by pretending they don't exist. That's just crazy.

Manufactured consensus here.

Saves

Wow, I applaud you for your courage. You're a patriot in a new era for this country. I applaud your efforts endlessly.

flip the script... what if this is a paid Sanders troll? #MindBlown

Only a shill could say that like they mean it. Well and some dumb broads who will vote for her just because she has a vagina..

I actually don't know a single woman right now planning to vote for Clinton, but thank you for letting us know about yer lady issues...

Ha, yes you do. We all do.

Okay, yeah, I do know like, two on Facebook, but not real life. And a few who will hold their nose because they're terrified of Republicans. However, I know many lifelong (female) Democrats shuddering that they may have to vote Republican this time if Hillary's the candidate. And lots of Republican/Independent women who would never consider Hillary but are kind of torn on who the hell they'd vote for on the Republican side, but definitely not voting Hillary.

pcsjw or feminazi or homo?

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if this was made up to make Bernie look like a victim. It's too ra ra ra for me. Reads like propaganda.

Dude, everything reads like propaganda.

Fair point.

From here on in this election cycle everything IS propaganda if it is pro or con a candidate. This may be authentic, it may be false flag, but it is all propaganda. Propaganda doesn't have to be false. It is more that it intends to persuade.

I am a reporter, and I'd love to have this former Clinton operative go on the record with me for an interview.

My first instinct with this is to wonder if its just Pro-Sanders trying to discredit Hillary through the exact tactic they're acting like they're no longer using in the article...

This reads like a Sanders supporter pretending to have been a Hillary shill because that's exactly what it is. Meanwhile there's a separate conspiracy positing that it's Hillary that is launching false flag operations.

There are a lot of Sanders supporters (I would say most) who adhere to his message and stay above the fray and on the issues. Then there's the other supporters who keep pushing increasingly ridiculous nonsense, especially after she solidified her lead after the Benghazi hearing. It must be frustrating to have your campaign not pick up the way you had hoped, but that's no excuse to push this nonsense.

"an old white male relic that believed women enjoyed being gang raped"

You're a bad liar, ha.

Really cuz those comments aren't all over facebook right? You're an immoral sack of shit. One who is really bad at your job I might add. But hey, it is fine people without any morals tend to go into certain lines of work like yours. Debt collectors, people who try and force people into crappy colleges, and just general trash existences like the one you live. It must be nice having no morality to which to speak from.

Edit: And it is by no means a coincidence that you didn't comment on anything for 9 days and than out of nowhere this is the first thread you come to and post on.

I can't even make sense of your reply. What job am I bad at? What's all this about morality?

I don't check my hate-mail (I live to provoke) all that often, but you're TOO stupid, conspiritard. Laughing!

A shill definitely posted this pro Zionist Bernie trash. I'm doubtful they really even did anything for Hillary's campaign.

Just more to prop up this manufactured candidate. A fake ass Ron Paul wannabe. Still ready to do anything for his fellow tribesmen.

"But, look at how he's votes....!"

We have. He's all talk, unless it's not important. Then he can vote with his "morals." When it's a sure thing, he'll fall on the sword to make it look like he's some social crusader. He's still not.

Vermonter here. Bernie has been winning campaigns here for years. One of the ways he wins is by not playing sophomoric games, and staying focused on the issues.

And supporting the Fed, Military Industrial Complex, and Israel at every turn.

(Psst...Bernie got the Fed audited. Not to the extent that Ron Paul wanted, but he actually got it done, unlike Ron Paul. And I believe he's called for having a more thorough audit done as well)

Interesting. Pro-shillary, pro-pharma, what else ya got in those pockets?

You've definitely been turned.

If by "PRO" you mean ABSOLUTELY AGAINST, then you've sized me up accurately.

Are you guys still hiring?

I don't even trust the guys post. I think there is a huge push by the ruling elite to bring our country into official socialism so they have more control over the wealth they don't possess. I think Bernie Sanders was placed into the running as a test with obvious choices for president and it gained hold allowing the PAB to advance their socialist agenda about a decade. I'm not for the gop, I hate the candidates. I hate Hilary as well and up until I learned what socialism actually is and how the ruling elite have been working towards it for the better part of the century I was a Sanders supporter.

until I learned what socialism actually is and how the ruling elite have been working towards it for the better part of the century I was a Sanders supporter.

care to flesh that opinion out for us?

Ignore the Hillary Trolls, they will go away eventually.

If you think the ruling elite have been working towards socialism, you have no idea what socialism actually is.

mmrmph! mrrmmph!

Yeah, but the people paying for shilling are AWFUL. I feel shitty enough spending so much time on Reddit, spending time pushing shitty people's evil agendas on Reddit would be serious suicide territory.

I fully support this ideaology

I'm no shill ;)

I think removing this post from Sanders4President was a mistake. Possibly a big one, if this issue passes by without much scrutiny.

Sounds legitimate

I don't even know what that means. Anything can "sound legitimate* if it's said in the right way. Language can be very persuasive, and the OP could very easily provide proof of his or her employment, or really anything that reaffirms the claims. Yet no proof has been given.

We'd do the exact same thing with any tale like this one, regardless of whether it's anti-Hillary, anti-Bernie, or anti-Trump.