There aren't any backroom deals between reddit and me or else I'd get myself unbanned from certain subreddits ;p
The question of am I getting paid is a tricky one. Let's say, hypothetically, that I was getting paid to post on reddit. First of all, I don't even know if that's allowed, so admitting to it could potentially get me banned.
Second, let's say, hypothetically I was getting paid by a certain donor base. I'm not sure how happy a group of people like that would be about getting outed as financing these types of campaigns.
I can tell you this for sure though. There do exist groups that pay people to post on social media, and run various campaigns. Sometimes it's as simple as a company like Coke going to one of these 'Social Media Advertising Campaign' companies and asking for help getting more pageviews on a certain website. That Social Media company will recruit a group of people to post links on various platforms and encourage others to visit the site. Coke will pay the Social Media company a certain about based off a percentage increase in pageviews. The Social Media company rewards the people posting links with giftcards usually. The more people click on your link (which has an identifier to make it unique) to the website, the bigger the giftcard.
Campaigns can get much larger than that as well. I got a free XPS laptop from Dell for working for them in college. All I had to do was man a desk in the Student Union for a few hours during student orientation. I also had to promise to bring and use it prominently in class (which I did, but they also never checked)
I used to love Louis CK until I heard these accusations that he basically molests up-and-coming female comics. Don't know if it's true but I really hope not. Still makes me stop thinking he's so funny.
And he even has the story wrong. The accusations are that he would pull his dick out in front of female comics and jerk off in front of them. He isn't being accused of physically molesting anybody.. just being a giant creep. And, again, there is 0 evidence of it anyways.
That is some very light hearted language to use... CK may or may not do weird shit but that has absolutely nothing to do with his comedy. Seriously, how does his comedy change based on vague and undocumented allegations of 'basically molesting' people? SMH
Agreed, what I would like to see is an Admin's response to this thread. Here we have all the proof we need that people are gaming Reddit, along with an admission that some user's post are subjected to a different upvote algorithm based on submissions, creating the Power Users that killed Digg.
I don't see the problem if the answer is "I'm getting paid", as long as there's no karma messing up, how the user uses reddit and why is entirely private, Si?
I don't get it. People like you and /u/Gallowboob can post stuff every 5 minutes or so. Whenever I try to post more than 1 submission in 5 minutes the systems says "Sorry, you are doing that too often. Try again in 10 minutes.....". How do you guys get around this?
You need to have 100 link karma in the subreddit in question in order to bypass that particular subreddit's spam filter.
It's not sitewide, it's based on subreddit. Basically to prevent you from building up a bunch of karma in your own personal subreddit, and then using that to spam the hell out of the rest of the site.
You can also get past the spam filter if you're an approved submitted-- that's to say, if the mods added you to that list. Typically, it's only used for private subreddits.
I'm sure you're a nice guy so forgive me if I say anything that you find offensive, but I'll try not to.
What you are doing is essentially whoring yourself out to corporate America or maybe a political group, going off of your name. Which I happen to like fwiw. The internet is a special place where there is a bit of an equal playing field for most. However, when people start corrupting social media with what is essentially subliminal advertising, it kinda ruins it. Part of me does appreciate the clever new take on advertising. But it makes it tough to trust things when corporations are getting their mitts into everything everywhere. Im very anti advertisement and prefer small local business to big corporations, so maybe im the odd man out.
You answered this question when you didnt have to though, so I thought I'd speak my mind as you seem like a friendly and reasonable person. I'm not telling you to do anything. I just want you to understand what exactly you are doing for a living and maybe, just maybe, you might rethink it. Its up to you, but think about whether you are happy with what you are doing. Have a nice day if youve made it this far. :)
Thanks for the reasonable response despite your disagreements :)
I understand how you feel about the pervasiveness of corporate and special interest groups wielding influence online (and elsewhere). Companies are always looking at new and more effective/efficient ways to advertise.
I've turned down campaigns before. Shortly after working with Dell, there was an opportunity to make some easy money from a certain Pornographic Magazine. They wanted people to slide CD's full of pornographic promotional material under students' dormroom doors. The next week I found one on the floor in front of my door. They just had someone else do it, and I missed out on $200.
I, myself, and the smallest business you can be, an individual. So I do sometimes take advantage of situations to benefit myself, but I try to make sure they don't disadvantage anyone else.
"So I do sometimes take advantage of situations to benefit myself, but I try to make sure they don't disadvantage anyone else."
So you hypothetically admit you get paid by some entity to post on Reddit/social media, and you have an all uppercase name such as /u/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY.
I would have to say that with the amount of views you receive, irregardless of the content, that you would be actively working toward giving Hillary a social media disadvantage?
By posting with that user name, you are -hypothetically- being paid to be an asshole. Enjoy your shekels.
edit: But handing out porn discs anonymously is beneath you.
Well I think what happened is he/she didn't want to be caught at the college handing out porn. It's a little weird to be that guy. So it's anonymous, but they could still be caught.
Whereas on reddit and other social media, they can remain anonymous.
cleary being as open as possible about what he does isn't beneath him. If you have problems with someone be as open and straightforward as /u/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY, how many issues are you going to have with those users, -indeed entire groups of people that are hired out by large companies or governments to push a particular political agenda secretly under the guise of just being an everyday user?
We have to be realisitc, so long as Financial power remains with large corporations and political interest groups, the internet will always be a threat of being used as a platform for misinformation and deception - encouraging individuals to be as open as possible about what they do is a much better alternative people who pretend like that don't do it at all.
So given this hypothetical context would you know which interest is behind the hypothetical paycheck or would you have to guess?
If we were to pretend for a second that your username is part of the campaign as well as your political posts I'd imagine there would be people on both sides of the political divide who would be interested in Hillary failing. Her democratic opponents and the opposition wanting the most outlandish candidate possible to win to make their own crazed candidate look sane.
So remaining in this pretend world do you know who it is that pays the bills or do you have to guess just like me?
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You're right, it's known in PR to stay away from reddit because of issues like the one you're having. I think previous AMAs have proven that time and time again.
I just thought it was because of your screen name creating animosity for anyone who sees it. Boom, instant upvote. So, will you get in as much trouble with your employers as the Reddit community for posting this refreshing truth?
You use /r/aww to generate massive link karma, then you parlay that into prominence on political subreddits. What a brilliant engine you discovered. You should probably charge your clients more.
" I got a free XPS laptop from Dell for working for them in college. All I had to do was man a desk in the Student Union for a few hours during student orientation. I also had to promise to bring and use it prominently in class"
You are a walking talking example of what is wrong with the world.
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I'm kinda glad you showed up. I had seen you before in a comment section and you seemed like a real person, then I noticed you and gallowbob on the front page constantly and was like damn, he sold his account. Now I see you in comments and nope, just making the most of a hobby, can't really fault you.
I doubt anyone was paying him initially (like a campaign). He probably just had a "clever" idea with his username and hates Clinton. Seeing how easy it is to get karma, now he is probably trying to create a market for his account by pretending that people actually did pay him.
If he was approached prior to the creation of his account to be paid for his work, his behavior makes no sense. He acknowledges that admitting it could possibly get him banned, and even acts "relieved" when you state he doesn't.
Yet, if you look through his history, every single time he gets username mentioned he hints that he's paid.
So he's either the dumbest paid redditor on Earth or full of shit.
He's just trying to create an illusion that he been paid to post so much on Reddit (masking his no life status) and hoping that he can probably approach or negotiate with some businesses in the future in hopes of getting paid work.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I'm not going to sit there and try to figure out whatever he's planning but it's obvious no one is giving him shit to do this.
So you're overworked and underpaid like the rest of us. You think that your work for social order is invaluable, but you actually know just how replaceable you are. You could have gone big time, but sold it all away for that sweet immediate corporate check because, let's face it, you've lost complete hope for humanity. And no one can blame you but yourself.
Whelp, best of luck with the rest of your life. Have fun staying out of prison when the TPP is finalized. Know that your value is only as worthy as the ideals you value.
That works out to just over 10,000 link karma per day... every single day.
If I had to throw an answer out there, I'd guess it was more than one person using the same account. Either that or it's someone who's been given links to post and these links are "assigned karma" instead of being upvoted.
I tried using an analytical tool on their account. It usually gives a result in under a minute. I let it run for nearly ten minutes and no result came back.
So it seems like there's something different going on here.
28 minutes later, Snoopsnoo has still returned zero result for u/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY . I've never had this happen before.
And this thread is starting to get hard hit with downvotes. Doesn't seem the kind of topic that would be heavily downvoted by r/conspirators?
I really wish reddit would just be more honest about their scoring, various censorship techniques, advertising policies, and all the other shenanigans that go on around here.
More than anything, I hate being misled and lied to. It's fucking insulting.
FTR, I came across this post (hadn't heard of snoopsnoo before) and started playing with it. CANT_TRUST_HILLARY is now on it. It probably just took a while to analyze everything because they post so god-damn much.
When I went (which was ~47 minutes ago), it said "refreshed 12 minutes ago" now it says "19 minutes ago." So it appears to be decently frequently. If I had had to guess, I would have said a day, but it appears that is way over the actual amount.
Last time I used it on myself, it hadn't updated for over a month. I'd guess it doesn't update until someone asks it to. That's how I'd do it if I were the programmer, personally.
I'd guess it doesn't update until someone asks it to.
Yeah, but my guess is that it doesn't update every time someone asks, but "caches" and reports that, in case there are a bunch of people who all request the same data around the same time. How long between updates, I can't say what the algorithm is. It could be strictly time based, it could be based on time and request amount, it could be based on the user's stats. . .who knows? Well, I assume the author does.
The honest problem with reddit being open about vote counting is that it would make it even easier to figure out how to rig.
Openness and transparency is not the easy solution one would like it to be when the internet is overrun with marketers, propagandists, and provacateurs from every direction, all of them working to influence people's opinions and behaviors.
It just gets the last 1000 comments/submissions using the public reddit api and parses them for various things like - place names, frequency of certain words used etc. There are several sites like this - www.redditinvestigator.com, www.redective.com etc. You can make one easily if you know some coding.
When you're using these with accounts with lots of karma, it wont work properly because of the limit of data allowed to be pulled by the reddit api.
One of the big tactics these karma whores use is to constantly delete and resubmit post until it takes off. You still keep all the karma from those deleted post though so that's probably where the extra karma is coming from.
Are you masterfully deducing that from my 93 link karma? Even if he had that's gonna average max 4000 per which, if that were even half the karma would mean 115 front page posts in 90-120 days, so probably a little more than once/day. Does that seem likely to you? In the week I looked at I didn't see any significant post scores.
Edit: Looked long term. Apparently he has a ton of 5k+ posts to non-default subs like /interestingasfuck and /gaming.
well, i know people who routinely get 10-20k in karma over a two day period, i've done it several times myself. Somebody just the other day got 100k in a week.
And I'm not aware of reddit being able to 'assign karma' to a post, however they can assign a post a different algorithm than others. They mainly do it to test out new ones before implementing them site-wide.
GallowBoob did it. Plenty of people can lob multiple links at Reddit and get a tremendous score. There are plenty of subreddits where the topics overlap to such a degree that you can get to the Front Page with the same link from two different subreddits in the same day.
It's not really all that difficult.
Have you checked out karmalb.com? There are plenty of accounts with a huge amount of link karma just tossing up submissions like skeeballs.
OK, seriously then, how do you get 900,000 karma in 3 months?
Inquiring minds want to know.
As for my earlier comments, please note that they are purely speculative in nature and are not meant to constitute any form of personal attack or accusation. Gotta make this disclaimer because I've run into some pretty sensitive people around here lately.
Really, people overrate just exactly how hard it is to get karma. Linking is easy enough-- you just need to know what reddit will like and figure out an adequate title as well.
Of course, this also means it's practically impossible to shill, even from such accounts. It's not like they're celebrities, people don't usually care about who's posting, just about what's being posted. Unless it's someone really high profile, like gallowboob. But then the response tends to be more hateful than anything else.
There's probably shilling going on yes, but not from the really high profile accounts. They're just too out in the open, being watched too closely.
Lets say you owned a website that advertisers were convinced users had influence due to their votes and prevalance in the community. Wouldn't you make that a business model? Shareholders ought to demand it!
They can change vote weight for each user (For example, shadowbanned users have a big hit to their vote weight. When they downvote a new post, it goes to 99% upvoted instead of 50%)
They'll assign different algorithms for specific posts. That way they can get a feel for how long content will take to get to the front page, and how often it cycles.
Would you rather fight 100 alligators in knee high swamp water - only using your bare hands, or ten crocodiles in very deep water with no shore in sight?
There are a few accounts like this that frequent the front page. High submission count, high karma, less than a year old. They seemingly "batch-submit" content skimmed from old submissions, usually using identical titles. I caught one posting the top rated comments from the original and another that was responding to /r/AskReddit threads with copy/pasted yahoo answers for comment karma (seemingly to "balance" their post history). It's just your average farming efforts. For what end result? We're still trying to determine that over at /r/TheseFuckingAccounts
I think the end result is to later post "viral" things that promote brands or companies or whatever.
Also if you have a bunch of these high karma accounts, you can have an army to upvote other accounts and not get caught or shadow banned as quickly.
Let's say you have a few hundred high karma accs, can then upvote newer accounts you just created to the front page to raise their karma, thereby creating more high karma accounts.
After that you can lend your services to corporations to downvote or upvote brand/corporation friendly or unfriendly posts.
I'm not sure why some people have trouble admitting that paid-for content is everywhere. Native advertising is a thing. This is just native advertising 2.0. And there is so much publicly available information on shills. See /r/InternetPR
So do you mean that users actually go to someone's profile, check their karma score, then upvote based on that? Sorry I'm ignorant on this stuff, I just post what's on my mind, rather than contemplate whether people will upvote me or not.
The guy who introduced me to Reddit back in the day said he's been gaming Reddit for years.
He said in the early days he had a spreadsheet with thousands of accounts with notes on each users profile. This is what he did to make money off this little scheme:
1 - create random accounts. Maybe some had distinct tastes for specific subreddits, others would post in 20 different subreddits.
2 - gradually grow karma so as not to get on Reddits bot radar and get banned.
3 - use accounts to upvote other low karma accounts, but in a very random manner so as not to make it obvious they were gaming the system
4 - sell said accounts (usually in bunches of 1,00 or more) to marketing companies who then post favorable articles about their own companies via the accounts to generate buzz about their products which will seem more "organic" and more subtle. This allows them to upvote, promote and make it seem like their articles are gaining traction organically and can subvert the Reddit bot cops.
5 - repeat as necessary
Not sure he's still doing it. Last time I spoke with him (about 2013 or so), he said most of this was pretty automated now with JS and he was still doing a lot of business (a few grand a month) to various marketing companies. He said as long as you had some serious randomness, it was easy to avoid detection and keep it going.
Addiction is a type of illness and they may be addicted to the karma. Karma seems to loosely translate to peer approval, which is a powerful motivator, example: high school.
To move things up on reddit and get paid. Though clearly this is a sports related shill account. Which surprised me. Thought it was just some republican account to attack Hillary.
50 bucks? If I were going to sell this account to some vast conspiracy to spread misinformation about vaccines, I would demand a lot more than that. The accusation that I would sell out so cheaply is the most offensive thing you've accused me of yet!
Since I'm in the right sub for this, here's my tin foil hat totally baseless and farfetched conspiracy theory about reddit; they make their money selling upvotes. There. I said it.
Too smart, it's the marketing companies that are selling upvotes. Maybe they're giving a kickback to Reddit to allow it though. This thread seems to confirm that Reddit at least knows about it.
Great way to "sway" people's thinking. This isn't a democracy anymore. It's just paid marketing. Those who have money have power. Disgusting and terrible.
You again? What, no more people to belittle in /r/WorldNews? So you don't have the courage to reply to my previous replies, but you just have to say "lol" in this new thread topic? Hmm... figures. Whatever, there's always "one" who's the trouble-maker/bad-apple in the bunch.
Anyways, if you read the post by the person that the OP is outing, s/he is more or less saying that there's a group of them paid to post stuff online. Get with the program, or get out. Your "lol" is useless.
No, you just steal content from elsewhere, post on imgur, and not credit any original artists or websites. Also known as Freebooting. So thank you for punishing those who create content by not even attempting to credit them.
Mainly what I meant is that I won't take a top post from /r/aww and post it to /r/pics. I'll sometimes post to multiple subreddits at one time though (like if it's a post about Fallout, /r/fallout and /r/gaming might like it, and not all users overlap both subreddits).
I figure the upvote/downvote system will sort them appropriately.
Now in this case, /u/slapshotten11 has pointed out that this gif was already posted to /r/wtf. I did not know that bc I don't visit that sub, and karmadecay didn't say anything when I ran it through there.
Those posts don't look like they're going anywhere anyway. I guess I could delete them and maybe save reddit some space on their servers, haha. But they'll just fade into oblivion with no harm done.
My assumption is that its simply people with no life. CANT_TRUST_HILLARY might just be a rabid Bernie fan who decided on that name. I tried an experiment where I completely followed CANT_TRUST_HILLARY's formula and reposted shit to numerous subreddits all day and I had over 10k in 3 days. Its like feeding a goldfish
I sent them a pm. I'm not a big reddit user so I'm not sure the etiquette involved, or even how to check my pm's. But if I get a response I'll let you know.
30+ year old white males secretly admire the shallowness of your political fervor. Sure they're not Reddit's largest demographic but you're not here to have fun with us, you have a damn agenda!
I'll bet you were all kinds of fun in 2004 when Bush was getting re-elected.
You should look at the posting history of frequent /r/conspiracy contributor /u/PostNationalism if you think that is a lot. Over 110 posts in the last day alone.
I think these accounts are always odd that have a ton of karma in a short amount of time. However, in this case, their best karma gains come from a Green Bay Packers subreddit and /r/gaming. They do the worst in /r/news. They certainly could be trying to build legitimacy for posting in the future or selling the account but, as it stands, they don't really do anything.
When the shill accounts first started showing up on reddit in numbers, they would have an innocuous history, lot of gaming and sports. Then suddenly, when they were sold, they would start posting to politics or conspiracy.
There's a /u/CANT_TRUST_BERNIE, /u/CANT_TRUST_DONALD, and /u/CANT_TRUST_BUSH. Each of them created within the last month. Perhaps by this same shill. This is a trend that surely will continue. Simply by varying the format of the username just about anyone could fabricate a unique name of their desired subliminal message, and just repost the most popular links as fast as possible all day long.
The fucked up part is, this is the only reddit username I ever notice on random posts. My guess its someones very effective form of subconscious programming.
A Bernie Sanders supporter who karmawhores every waking minute, just so as people see his username. Must think he's conducting some clever subliminal marketing shit.
The amount of karma really isn't unusual or impossible. If you dedicate all your time to this website, you can do it too.
Your first problem is believing in Internet Karma/Points.
Stop and think about that.. OK, now you have identified the problem now correct it.
It is just another Matter of control for those wanting to fit in so bad. it really is pathetic and appeals to the everyone is a winner crowd. Just be PC and watch those points grow. L O L..
Good explanation. My problem with it is all the funny posts get seen but if you have a dissenting opinion you get downvoted into obscurity...this is the "circle jerk" environment of reddit you year about.
The downside to karma is when you go negative karma your posts are not read if below threshhold. Theres a link next to your karma to display by subreddit.
Are you masterfully deducing that from my 93 link karma? Even if he had that's gonna average max 4000 per which, if that were even half the karma would mean 115 front page posts in 90-120 days, so probably a little more than once/day. Does that seem likely to you? In the week I looked at I didn't see any significant post scores.
Edit: Looked long term. Apparently he has a ton of 5k+ posts to non-default subs like /interestingasfuck and /gaming.
And he even has the story wrong. The accusations are that he would pull his dick out in front of female comics and jerk off in front of them. He isn't being accused of physically molesting anybody.. just being a giant creep. And, again, there is 0 evidence of it anyways.
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143 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
Hey :)
There aren't any backroom deals between reddit and me or else I'd get myself unbanned from certain subreddits ;p
The question of am I getting paid is a tricky one. Let's say, hypothetically, that I was getting paid to post on reddit. First of all, I don't even know if that's allowed, so admitting to it could potentially get me banned.
Second, let's say, hypothetically I was getting paid by a certain donor base. I'm not sure how happy a group of people like that would be about getting outed as financing these types of campaigns.
I can tell you this for sure though. There do exist groups that pay people to post on social media, and run various campaigns. Sometimes it's as simple as a company like Coke going to one of these 'Social Media Advertising Campaign' companies and asking for help getting more pageviews on a certain website. That Social Media company will recruit a group of people to post links on various platforms and encourage others to visit the site. Coke will pay the Social Media company a certain about based off a percentage increase in pageviews. The Social Media company rewards the people posting links with giftcards usually. The more people click on your link (which has an identifier to make it unique) to the website, the bigger the giftcard.
Campaigns can get much larger than that as well. I got a free XPS laptop from Dell for working for them in college. All I had to do was man a desk in the Student Union for a few hours during student orientation. I also had to promise to bring and use it prominently in class (which I did, but they also never checked)
Here's some proof-ish
209 vaevictis037 2015-11-10
"Am I getting paid is a tricky question"
If the answer's "no, I'm not getting paid" then it's not that hard of a question to answer.
141 BondsWithXenon 2015-11-10
Like when Louis CK asked Donald Rumsfeld if he was a lizard and he couldn't answer the question
52 MankersOnReddit 2015-11-10
That honestly was one of the greatest moments in radio history.
-53 RowdyRondaRousey 2015-11-10
I used to love Louis CK until I heard these accusations that he basically molests up-and-coming female comics. Don't know if it's true but I really hope not. Still makes me stop thinking he's so funny.
64 MankersOnReddit 2015-11-10
Oh right. I'm in /r/conspiracy.
12 daybreakx 2015-11-10
That kind of sounds what an up and coming female comic would say though...
9 kalirizian 2015-11-10
Its not true. Kirkman even said the guy was married and "cosby-esque" at the time.
Louis was unmarried the whole time he was at his peak, she even trys to back track throwing him under the bus when she was on the nerdist podcast.
5 FloobyBadoop 2015-11-10
Cosby-esque as in "potential rapist"?
4 kalirizian 2015-11-10
Her words, but I'm guessing she meant fame and the whole rapey thing aswell.
6 dangleberri 2015-11-10
So you stopped "loving" him because he allegedly does something which you have no proof of whatsoever? Interesting...
3 kgt5003 2015-11-10
And he even has the story wrong. The accusations are that he would pull his dick out in front of female comics and jerk off in front of them. He isn't being accused of physically molesting anybody.. just being a giant creep. And, again, there is 0 evidence of it anyways.
4 ahubbs 2015-11-10
Spreading pile of shit gawkers message?
3 PrecisionEsports 2015-11-10
That is some very light hearted language to use... CK may or may not do weird shit but that has absolutely nothing to do with his comedy. Seriously, how does his comedy change based on vague and undocumented allegations of 'basically molesting' people? SMH
1 X_Irradiance 2015-11-10
I would definitely do that, too, if I were him. So, no biggie.
-3 Office_Zombie 2015-11-10
I did hear the same things also. More specifically that he liked to jerk off and make them watch. (Serious; not making that up.)
6 ontherun88 2015-11-10
yep, also heard he would cum on their face and rub it in then make them go out and perform straight after, as a 'good luck' charm
3 Office_Zombie 2015-11-10
Wait...Are you serious or are you making that part up?
3 MarkBlackUltor 2015-11-10
/u/ontherun88 is telling the truth, his fans claim it's some sort of religious thing so that makes it ok.
0 ChaosMotor 2015-11-10
Yup, heard the same.
9 RunAMuckGirl 2015-11-10
OMG!! LOL I had not heard this so I had to go look it up. This slays me! LMAO! Louis C.K. Asks Donald Rumsfeld If He Is A Lizard
7 Mike-Oxenfire 2015-11-10
That's amazing. The lizard people can't deny it they can only either say yes or not answer. Hahaha
6 ChaosMotor 2015-11-10
Well you see lizards are incapable of lying. ;)
1 ignorant_ 2015-11-10
Not paranoid enough.
1 SixVISix 2015-11-10
This is appears to be an attempt to derail this line of thought.
54 RowdyRondaRousey 2015-11-10
He basically is admitting it and being much cooler than your traditional shill. I find his honesty refreshing.
19 DMMDestroyer 2015-11-10
This is turning into one of the most useful posts, out of a post we expected little.
15 SchulzArmy 2015-11-10
Agreed, what I would like to see is an Admin's response to this thread. Here we have all the proof we need that people are gaming Reddit, along with an admission that some user's post are subjected to a different upvote algorithm based on submissions, creating the Power Users that killed Digg.
4 vaevictis037 2015-11-10
I wonder how the username plays into it, who doesn't want us to trust Hillary?
8 Purppyping 2015-11-10
Probably anyone with half a brain.
1 yo_me_paspali 2015-11-10
Probably Hillary.
7 Armadylspark 2015-11-10
Ah, but you see, that's just you not understanding the true angle.
You see, he's actually not shilling and just lying about it to gather karma from /r/conspiracy. It's quite brilliant, really.
You're being duped and you don't even know it.
4 SixVISix 2015-11-10
"It's OK because he's being honest" is something a shill would say.
6 alllie 2015-11-10
AKA, YES.
0 prassi89 2015-11-10
I don't see the problem if the answer is "I'm getting paid", as long as there's no karma messing up, how the user uses reddit and why is entirely private, Si?
49 Homer_Simpson_Doh 2015-11-10
I don't get it. People like you and /u/Gallowboob can post stuff every 5 minutes or so. Whenever I try to post more than 1 submission in 5 minutes the systems says "Sorry, you are doing that too often. Try again in 10 minutes.....". How do you guys get around this?
31 N8theGr8 2015-11-10
You need to have 100 link karma in the subreddit in question in order to bypass that particular subreddit's spam filter.
It's not sitewide, it's based on subreddit. Basically to prevent you from building up a bunch of karma in your own personal subreddit, and then using that to spam the hell out of the rest of the site.
3 Armadylspark 2015-11-10
You can also get past the spam filter if you're an approved submitted-- that's to say, if the mods added you to that list. Typically, it's only used for private subreddits.
7 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
You probably just have to verify your email. Your posting history is decent enough not to get flagged.
24 ohio7764 2015-11-10
My email is verified and I've had my account for over four years and I still get a message if I post too quickly.
12 joedude 2015-11-10
post karma is subreddit specific.
7 XavierSimmons 2015-11-10
You have to earn post karma in certain reddits before you can post frequently.
2 BrianTheLady 2015-11-10
ooooo the inner workings of reddit!
28 RDay 2015-11-10
this is so
/r/bestofr/hailcorporate/r/conspiracy is not a recognized good guy for bestof posts.
27 OcculusResurrectio 2015-11-10
I'm sure you're a nice guy so forgive me if I say anything that you find offensive, but I'll try not to.
What you are doing is essentially whoring yourself out to corporate America or maybe a political group, going off of your name. Which I happen to like fwiw. The internet is a special place where there is a bit of an equal playing field for most. However, when people start corrupting social media with what is essentially subliminal advertising, it kinda ruins it. Part of me does appreciate the clever new take on advertising. But it makes it tough to trust things when corporations are getting their mitts into everything everywhere. Im very anti advertisement and prefer small local business to big corporations, so maybe im the odd man out.
You answered this question when you didnt have to though, so I thought I'd speak my mind as you seem like a friendly and reasonable person. I'm not telling you to do anything. I just want you to understand what exactly you are doing for a living and maybe, just maybe, you might rethink it. Its up to you, but think about whether you are happy with what you are doing. Have a nice day if youve made it this far. :)
20 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
Thanks for the reasonable response despite your disagreements :)
I understand how you feel about the pervasiveness of corporate and special interest groups wielding influence online (and elsewhere). Companies are always looking at new and more effective/efficient ways to advertise.
I've turned down campaigns before. Shortly after working with Dell, there was an opportunity to make some easy money from a certain Pornographic Magazine. They wanted people to slide CD's full of pornographic promotional material under students' dormroom doors. The next week I found one on the floor in front of my door. They just had someone else do it, and I missed out on $200.
I, myself, and the smallest business you can be, an individual. So I do sometimes take advantage of situations to benefit myself, but I try to make sure they don't disadvantage anyone else.
9 Maritalrelations 2015-11-10
"So I do sometimes take advantage of situations to benefit myself, but I try to make sure they don't disadvantage anyone else."
So you hypothetically admit you get paid by some entity to post on Reddit/social media, and you have an all uppercase name such as /u/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY. I would have to say that with the amount of views you receive, irregardless of the content, that you would be actively working toward giving Hillary a social media disadvantage? By posting with that user name, you are -hypothetically- being paid to be an asshole. Enjoy your shekels.
edit: But handing out porn discs anonymously is beneath you.
6 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
I just thought that sliding pornographic material under someone's door in the middle of the night was on the wrong side of privacy violations.
I asked if we could just hand them out outside a dining hall in the evening, but they said no.
1 laliloleelee 2015-11-10
This proves my feeling about you and I dig ya. Keep on.
5 Raxxial 2015-11-10
Mate this isn't even a word...
2 CouchMountain 2015-11-10
Well I think what happened is he/she didn't want to be caught at the college handing out porn. It's a little weird to be that guy. So it's anonymous, but they could still be caught.
Whereas on reddit and other social media, they can remain anonymous.
1 Ardinius 2015-11-10
cleary being as open as possible about what he does isn't beneath him. If you have problems with someone be as open and straightforward as /u/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY, how many issues are you going to have with those users, -indeed entire groups of people that are hired out by large companies or governments to push a particular political agenda secretly under the guise of just being an everyday user?
We have to be realisitc, so long as Financial power remains with large corporations and political interest groups, the internet will always be a threat of being used as a platform for misinformation and deception - encouraging individuals to be as open as possible about what they do is a much better alternative people who pretend like that don't do it at all.
0 DerpSherpa 2015-11-10
"Irregardless"?? Everything you said before and after has now been mooted.
5 Nogoodsense 2015-11-10
Out of curiosity, how do you get involved with this kind of work?
You say you are a business of one, just yourself, so you don't work for an ad agency. I guess ad agencies get ahold of you then.
Do you sign up for this kind of thing? Can anyone? Are there requirements?
3 _tpyo 2015-11-10
So given this hypothetical context would you know which interest is behind the hypothetical paycheck or would you have to guess?
If we were to pretend for a second that your username is part of the campaign as well as your political posts I'd imagine there would be people on both sides of the political divide who would be interested in Hillary failing. Her democratic opponents and the opposition wanting the most outlandish candidate possible to win to make their own crazed candidate look sane.
So remaining in this pretend world do you know who it is that pays the bills or do you have to guess just like me?
3 york100 2015-11-10
It will be interesting to see if he keeps posting if Hillary loses...
2 OcculusResurrectio 2015-11-10
I like you. Have an upvote. Thanks for sharing everything. I did find it interesting.
1 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
http://i.imgur.com/yf2IcNq.gifv
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13 Gadzooks_Buddha 2015-11-10
Fuck this cunt
5 RowdyRondaRousey 2015-11-10
Gadzooks, Buddha!
7 whatawonderfulship 2015-11-10
You're right, it's known in PR to stay away from reddit because of issues like the one you're having. I think previous AMAs have proven that time and time again.
1 Moarbrains 2015-11-10
stay away or be careful?
1 whatawonderfulship 2015-11-10
Mostly just stay away, there are way too many cons.
3 Moarbrains 2015-11-10
If there is a niche, someone is going to fill it.
Shills gotta shill.
6 [deleted] 2015-11-10
Yeah whatever. Fuck off
5 filmfiend999 2015-11-10
I just thought it was because of your screen name creating animosity for anyone who sees it. Boom, instant upvote. So, will you get in as much trouble with your employers as the Reddit community for posting this refreshing truth?
4 Adobe_Flesh 2015-11-10
Delete this account and all shall be forgiven
4 SixVISix 2015-11-10
Do you recognize how pathetic this is, or do you somehow convince yourself that you're doing something important or worthy?
4 rcglinsk 2015-11-10
You use /r/aww to generate massive link karma, then you parlay that into prominence on political subreddits. What a brilliant engine you discovered. You should probably charge your clients more.
4 namepitched 2015-11-10
Paid by a super-PAC. Got it.
3 burns0100 2015-11-10
You are a trash bag of a human being. An absolute bag of trash.
3 howtobansomeone 2015-11-10
You are the scum of the earth.
3 nfaguy 2015-11-10
" I got a free XPS laptop from Dell for working for them in college. All I had to do was man a desk in the Student Union for a few hours during student orientation. I also had to promise to bring and use it prominently in class"
You are a walking talking example of what is wrong with the world.
1 VancouverSucks 2015-11-10
Go fucking kill yourself you robot.
0 3xphate 2015-11-10
How to recruit that job :o
10 OswaldWasAFag 2015-11-10
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Responsibilities include reviewing, taking action on (rejecting or approving), tracking, and/or escalating social media users’ posts according to brand guidelinesResponding to user content in a social context and initiating or conversationResponding to customers’ questions (with pre-determined or authored responses)Identifying and escalating trends, topics, sentiment, and emerging issues.
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0 RowdyRondaRousey 2015-11-10
I'd rather starve but I understand. The lure is real.
0 AZRAEL55 2015-11-10
I'm kinda glad you showed up. I had seen you before in a comment section and you seemed like a real person, then I noticed you and gallowbob on the front page constantly and was like damn, he sold his account. Now I see you in comments and nope, just making the most of a hobby, can't really fault you.
-1 Paradoxou 2015-11-10
The real question is : Who cares?
edit : oops apparently some people care a lot about their imaginary internet points... Sorry
-2 Dipheroin 2015-11-10
I don't believe that anyone's paying you to do this.
11 Throwaway2343312 2015-11-10
I doubt anyone was paying him initially (like a campaign). He probably just had a "clever" idea with his username and hates Clinton. Seeing how easy it is to get karma, now he is probably trying to create a market for his account by pretending that people actually did pay him.
If he was approached prior to the creation of his account to be paid for his work, his behavior makes no sense. He acknowledges that admitting it could possibly get him banned, and even acts "relieved" when you state he doesn't.
Yet, if you look through his history, every single time he gets username mentioned he hints that he's paid.
So he's either the dumbest paid redditor on Earth or full of shit.
He's just trying to create an illusion that he been paid to post so much on Reddit (masking his no life status) and hoping that he can probably approach or negotiate with some businesses in the future in hopes of getting paid work.
0 Dipheroin 2015-11-10
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I'm not going to sit there and try to figure out whatever he's planning but it's obvious no one is giving him shit to do this.
-11 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
Perfect :)
9 George_Tenet 2015-11-10
So you get 10k link karma a Day? Do you go outside?
10 [deleted] 2015-11-10
They make laptops and smart phones. They're like portable computers.
7 tylerwcdurden 2015-11-10
go on...
4 RowdyRondaRousey 2015-11-10
Oh yes, apparently it's quite the growing industry.
3 California_Viking 2015-11-10
That smart phone will never take off. People love spending time crouched in front of their computers.
-4 architect_son 2015-11-10
So you're overworked and underpaid like the rest of us. You think that your work for social order is invaluable, but you actually know just how replaceable you are. You could have gone big time, but sold it all away for that sweet immediate corporate check because, let's face it, you've lost complete hope for humanity. And no one can blame you but yourself.
Whelp, best of luck with the rest of your life. Have fun staying out of prison when the TPP is finalized. Know that your value is only as worthy as the ideals you value.
7 zaikanekochan 2015-11-10
...what?
-10 George_Tenet 2015-11-10
Do you think9/11 was a false flag? Do you think wtc7 was a controlled demolition?? Can you advertise r/limitedhangouts for me
9 Ceepeepee 2015-11-10
lol
97 OB1_kenobi 2015-11-10
That works out to just over 10,000 link karma per day... every single day.
If I had to throw an answer out there, I'd guess it was more than one person using the same account. Either that or it's someone who's been given links to post and these links are "assigned karma" instead of being upvoted.
30 DiarrheaMonkey- 2015-11-10
Looking at the last week, the account is averaging about 50 posts/day. That would mean an average of 200 points/post and it's nowhere near that.
32 OB1_kenobi 2015-11-10
I tried using an analytical tool on their account. It usually gives a result in under a minute. I let it run for nearly ten minutes and no result came back.
So it seems like there's something different going on here.
19 xdyev 2015-11-10
Thanks for reminding me. I just plugged the username into Snoopsnoo.
Snoo just going round and round. No results. I've used it before and it has worked perfectly. Not this time.
Very strange?
73 xdyev 2015-11-10
To add:
28 minutes later, Snoopsnoo has still returned zero result for u/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY . I've never had this happen before.
And this thread is starting to get hard hit with downvotes. Doesn't seem the kind of topic that would be heavily downvoted by r/conspirators?
I really wish reddit would just be more honest about their scoring, various censorship techniques, advertising policies, and all the other shenanigans that go on around here.
More than anything, I hate being misled and lied to. It's fucking insulting.
13 EatATaco 2015-11-10
FTR, I came across this post (hadn't heard of snoopsnoo before) and started playing with it. CANT_TRUST_HILLARY is now on it. It probably just took a while to analyze everything because they post so god-damn much.
5 SharpTits 2015-11-10
cool, they cache the results then. i wonder what their refresh rate is? normally it wouldn't matter, but for this account it is slightly relevant.
3 EatATaco 2015-11-10
When I went (which was ~47 minutes ago), it said "refreshed 12 minutes ago" now it says "19 minutes ago." So it appears to be decently frequently. If I had had to guess, I would have said a day, but it appears that is way over the actual amount.
2 thirdegree 2015-11-10
Last time I used it on myself, it hadn't updated for over a month. I'd guess it doesn't update until someone asks it to. That's how I'd do it if I were the programmer, personally.
2 EatATaco 2015-11-10
Yeah, but my guess is that it doesn't update every time someone asks, but "caches" and reports that, in case there are a bunch of people who all request the same data around the same time. How long between updates, I can't say what the algorithm is. It could be strictly time based, it could be based on time and request amount, it could be based on the user's stats. . .who knows? Well, I assume the author does.
2 thirdegree 2015-11-10
This is what I see when I go lookup my username. The last time I looked it up was... 3 days ago. I really think it just doesn't update until someone asks it to.
2 EatATaco 2015-11-10
MUAHAHAHHA not any more it doesn't!
But it appears you are right. I must have just overlooked the "refresh now" button when I looked last.
10 metabolix 2015-11-10
I am with you. Its so easy to vote rig reddit.
4 BondsWithXenon 2015-11-10
The honest problem with reddit being open about vote counting is that it would make it even easier to figure out how to rig.
Openness and transparency is not the easy solution one would like it to be when the internet is overrun with marketers, propagandists, and provacateurs from every direction, all of them working to influence people's opinions and behaviors.
2 SharpTits 2015-11-10
http://freakonomics.com/2011/07/28/minority-rules-why-10-percent-is-all-you-need/
3 OrangePaper7 2015-11-10
I just got it to work
http://snoopsnoo.com/u/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY
highlights include that the longest period between two consecutive posts for that account are three minutes
1 alllie 2015-11-10
Everyone who works for reddit probably thinks they will get a big payout when reddit is sold for big money.
-15 ycuzimfly 2015-11-10
It's the interwebz..who cares? Turn off your computer and it will all go away. I promise.
7 3xphate 2015-11-10
How does snoo work?
Edit: lel I cant even ask? Okay
3 Dysnomi 2015-11-10
Yup. Lol.
Ftr, I dunno how it works either.
2 reddit_mind 2015-11-10
It just gets the last 1000 comments/submissions using the public reddit api and parses them for various things like - place names, frequency of certain words used etc. There are several sites like this - www.redditinvestigator.com, www.redective.com etc. You can make one easily if you know some coding.
When you're using these with accounts with lots of karma, it wont work properly because of the limit of data allowed to be pulled by the reddit api.
0 rememberthis1ok 2015-11-10
I used Snoopsnoo and posted what I saw below.
1 xdyev 2015-11-10
Saw that, thanks. It didn't work for me and after half an hour I gave up.
3 margobisbee 2015-11-10
One of the big tactics these karma whores use is to constantly delete and resubmit post until it takes off. You still keep all the karma from those deleted post though so that's probably where the extra karma is coming from.
4 alllie 2015-11-10
With all the shills sometimes it takes more than once to get a good article to move.
1 Noondozer 2015-11-10
Thats a lot of shit posting. He should get an award.
-2 alllie 2015-11-10
I used to post that much. Occasionally I still do. But it takes a while to check out each article then post it to the relevant subs. But sports?
-5 drewiepoodle 2015-11-10
You've never had a post hit the front page, have you?
2 DiarrheaMonkey- 2015-11-10
Are you masterfully deducing that from my 93 link karma? Even if he had that's gonna average max 4000 per which, if that were even half the karma would mean 115 front page posts in 90-120 days, so probably a little more than once/day. Does that seem likely to you? In the week I looked at I didn't see any significant post scores.
Edit: Looked long term. Apparently he has a ton of 5k+ posts to non-default subs like /interestingasfuck and /gaming.
-1 drewiepoodle 2015-11-10
well, i know people who routinely get 10-20k in karma over a two day period, i've done it several times myself. Somebody just the other day got 100k in a week.
0 ratamack 2015-11-10
He's the repost king of Reddit
-29 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
It's just me :)
And I'm not aware of reddit being able to 'assign karma' to a post, however they can assign a post a different algorithm than others. They mainly do it to test out new ones before implementing them site-wide.
30 Chaotix 2015-11-10
Explain the history on your account, if you could. Curious minds want to know how you achieved god-like reddit karma in such a short amount of time.
5 N8theGr8 2015-11-10
GallowBoob did it. Plenty of people can lob multiple links at Reddit and get a tremendous score. There are plenty of subreddits where the topics overlap to such a degree that you can get to the Front Page with the same link from two different subreddits in the same day.
It's not really all that difficult.
Have you checked out karmalb.com? There are plenty of accounts with a huge amount of link karma just tossing up submissions like skeeballs.
14 OB1_kenobi 2015-11-10
OK, seriously then, how do you get 900,000 karma in 3 months?
Inquiring minds want to know.
As for my earlier comments, please note that they are purely speculative in nature and are not meant to constitute any form of personal attack or accusation. Gotta make this disclaimer because I've run into some pretty sensitive people around here lately.
6 OswaldWasAFag 2015-11-10
Celebrity accounts usually can. This ain't one but IIRC 40 bucks (in this case probably from someone's campaign fund. buys 10k upboats.
1 OB1_kenobi 2015-11-10
This isn't even the biggest deal either. There's a user called gallowboob or something like that. He made it past 6 million karma in about 6 months.
When I started, 100,000 karma for link or comments was a big deal. Now it's like nothing.
-1 Armadylspark 2015-11-10
100k never really was that much of a big deal.
Really, people overrate just exactly how hard it is to get karma. Linking is easy enough-- you just need to know what reddit will like and figure out an adequate title as well.
Of course, this also means it's practically impossible to shill, even from such accounts. It's not like they're celebrities, people don't usually care about who's posting, just about what's being posted. Unless it's someone really high profile, like gallowboob. But then the response tends to be more hateful than anything else.
There's probably shilling going on yes, but not from the really high profile accounts. They're just too out in the open, being watched too closely.
1 alllie 2015-11-10
More than I have in 8 years. But I rarely post crap.
1 OB1_kenobi 2015-11-10
8 years?
Hey there old-timer, what's up?
1 alllie 2015-11-10
Hey, young whipper-snapper.
0 reputable_opinion 2015-11-10
Lets say you owned a website that advertisers were convinced users had influence due to their votes and prevalance in the community. Wouldn't you make that a business model? Shareholders ought to demand it!
2 alllie 2015-11-10
They can assign a different algorithm for different users?
That would explain so much.
-1 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
They can change vote weight for each user (For example, shadowbanned users have a big hit to their vote weight. When they downvote a new post, it goes to 99% upvoted instead of 50%)
They'll assign different algorithms for specific posts. That way they can get a feel for how long content will take to get to the front page, and how often it cycles.
-2 alllie 2015-11-10
Well, that explains why I do so shitty these days.
But doesn't tell me why a shill like you does so well.
And how you know this stuff.
Edit: I do need to go to voat or some other aggregator. There's got to be someplace that still plays straight.
0 iamagod_____ 2015-11-10
Still plays strsight in their state sponsored propaganda distribution networks? I've seen you play [mostly] straight with yours.
1 BillionaireBob 2015-11-10
Honestly, do you have a job?
-34 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
I only reddit while I Uber ;p
3 drewiepoodle 2015-11-10
Lol
-1 BillionaireBob 2015-11-10
Eh.
5 oxide-NL 2015-11-10
Bet it's a bot. Way tooo many posts
Think it cross references the question to the whole of reddit. Picks a answer that has many kudos. Uses that as answer to you're question.
-1 cheesegoat 2015-11-10
Sort of like a reddit-specific chatbot?
1 RowdyRondaRousey 2015-11-10
Yeah, same as the human users.
-1 RDay 2015-11-10
can I get a jerb washing your tights, Ronda? ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o)
1 TheUltimateSalesman 2015-11-10
ok taco
-1 reputable_opinion 2015-11-10
haha mainly testing. sounds lucrative to me, Mr. Babyman 2 Electric Boogaloo.
-4 xdyev 2015-11-10
My my, look who's here.
And how did you find our little corner of conversation? Reddit is a big neighborhood.
1 Howwasitforyou 2015-11-10
It is a big neighborhood, but most of the people are sort of looking in the same direction.
0 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
Someone else in the thread username mentioned me
13 dirtyunderwearer 2015-11-10
Would you rather fight 100 alligators in knee high swamp water - only using your bare hands, or ten crocodiles in very deep water with no shore in sight?
6 MyFavoriteLadies 2015-11-10
I know you didn't ask me, but I'd rather just die. There's no winning either scenario
0 RowdyRondaRousey 2015-11-10
Death is the only option anyway
4 sheasie 2015-11-10
"does not compute"
2 w00tZy 2015-11-10
Beautiful alteration !
0 TinfoilSandwich 2015-11-10
Because the Illuminati told him, duh.
83 anonymau5 2015-11-10
There are a few accounts like this that frequent the front page. High submission count, high karma, less than a year old. They seemingly "batch-submit" content skimmed from old submissions, usually using identical titles. I caught one posting the top rated comments from the original and another that was responding to /r/AskReddit threads with copy/pasted yahoo answers for comment karma (seemingly to "balance" their post history). It's just your average farming efforts. For what end result? We're still trying to determine that over at /r/TheseFuckingAccounts
23 turdovski 2015-11-10
I think the end result is to later post "viral" things that promote brands or companies or whatever.
Also if you have a bunch of these high karma accounts, you can have an army to upvote other accounts and not get caught or shadow banned as quickly.
Let's say you have a few hundred high karma accs, can then upvote newer accounts you just created to the front page to raise their karma, thereby creating more high karma accounts.
After that you can lend your services to corporations to downvote or upvote brand/corporation friendly or unfriendly posts.
16 NutritionResearch 2015-11-10
I'm not sure why some people have trouble admitting that paid-for content is everywhere. Native advertising is a thing. This is just native advertising 2.0. And there is so much publicly available information on shills. See /r/InternetPR
2 AbnormallyAverageGuy 2015-11-10
Does the number of Karma an account has have an effect on how much their upvote matters? I'm confused by that, sorry.
1 [deleted] 2015-11-10
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3 AbnormallyAverageGuy 2015-11-10
So do you mean that users actually go to someone's profile, check their karma score, then upvote based on that? Sorry I'm ignorant on this stuff, I just post what's on my mind, rather than contemplate whether people will upvote me or not.
1 datpurp 2015-11-10
Yeah I'm not really getting that either. Do people check the names before they upvote? Like "oh gallowboob posted this must be good then!"
1 Raxxial 2015-11-10
Ahh good ol' /u/gallowboob
0 PostNationalism 2015-11-10
It's pretty obvious this user is telling us we "can't trust Hillary"
12 [deleted] 2015-11-10
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3 ZapPowerz 2015-11-10
Nothing is to be believed anymore.
5 sailornasheed 2015-11-10
Meaningless internet points. You'd be amazed at how many people actually take the Karma thing seriously.
13 anonymau5 2015-11-10
Oh I believe it, but 14+ hour days for such a cause? There's either some sort of profit, or some sort of illness involved
15 sickburnersalve 2015-11-10
They more than likely being paid.
I'd say someone bought a program that would submit frequently and is just running it.
I'd guess no one is just watching it, but maybe checks it daily to make sure it's still running. Maybe add a "sincere" post or response.
Reddit is first and foremost a marketing tool for anyone interested in our demographic.
10 platinumgulls 2015-11-10
The guy who introduced me to Reddit back in the day said he's been gaming Reddit for years.
He said in the early days he had a spreadsheet with thousands of accounts with notes on each users profile. This is what he did to make money off this little scheme:
1 - create random accounts. Maybe some had distinct tastes for specific subreddits, others would post in 20 different subreddits.
2 - gradually grow karma so as not to get on Reddits bot radar and get banned.
3 - use accounts to upvote other low karma accounts, but in a very random manner so as not to make it obvious they were gaming the system
4 - sell said accounts (usually in bunches of 1,00 or more) to marketing companies who then post favorable articles about their own companies via the accounts to generate buzz about their products which will seem more "organic" and more subtle. This allows them to upvote, promote and make it seem like their articles are gaining traction organically and can subvert the Reddit bot cops.
5 - repeat as necessary
Not sure he's still doing it. Last time I spoke with him (about 2013 or so), he said most of this was pretty automated now with JS and he was still doing a lot of business (a few grand a month) to various marketing companies. He said as long as you had some serious randomness, it was easy to avoid detection and keep it going.
Not a bad gig if you can get it.
3 RowdyRondaRousey 2015-11-10
Addiction is a type of illness and they may be addicted to the karma. Karma seems to loosely translate to peer approval, which is a powerful motivator, example: high school.
3 akronix10 2015-11-10
There's plenty of people out there that would pay this one to keep it up.
9 the_right_is_wrong 2015-11-10
i had an account banned for posting 7 things in one day, the is a reddit sponsored account.
6 peterson2004 2015-11-10
Not to PR firms, it's pure gold, GOLD.
3 5foot6withoutheels 2015-11-10
better chance of making first page or front page based on those stats isn't it?
New accounts like mine will barely show up if I made a post on here but that type of account will get more exposure because of the stats
2 alllie 2015-11-10
To move things up on reddit and get paid. Though clearly this is a sports related shill account. Which surprised me. Thought it was just some republican account to attack Hillary.
3 JimmyHavok 2015-11-10
Sports subs are reliable karma farms.
1 alllie 2015-11-10
Apparently.
1 lloydbennett1 2015-11-10
I heard high karma accounts were actually worth money as they denote high visibility of posts?
1 mrhodesit 2015-11-10
Doing great work over there at /r/TheseFuckingAccounts.
52 wearealllittlealbert 2015-11-10
This is one busy account. Longest time between posts is 9 hours in its three months of existence.
37 msoc 2015-11-10
Yeah.... Definitely not the work of 1 person.
2 TR0LL_T0LL 2015-11-10
Bot.
-1 theonlylawislove 2015-11-10
How much for the boy's hole?
34 minato3421 2015-11-10
http://snoopsnoo.com/u/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY
This explains it
29 Jaereth 2015-11-10
longest period between two consecutive posts
83 seconds
17 Xtorting 2015-11-10
So what you're telling me is, there's a chance of shilling?
11 turdovski 2015-11-10
I think it's an agency or hybrid bot or something. No normal person would be able to find and post so many submissions alone all day.
This way once they start posting viral shit for brands, it's harder to spot him or call him out on it since "he just posts so much stuff".
7 [deleted] 2015-11-10
Just look closely at some accounts and you'll find one.
Check out /u/EatATaco
5 year old account. Just started talking about vaccines pretty much every single day about 45 days ago.
Probably bought the account from some dude for 50 bucks.
Makes sense too. If I was a NGO or something that pushed vaccines, I'd probably hire a few guys to use Reddit. It's such a great tool to spread info.
6 EatATaco 2015-11-10
50 bucks? If I were going to sell this account to some vast conspiracy to spread misinformation about vaccines, I would demand a lot more than that. The accusation that I would sell out so cheaply is the most offensive thing you've accused me of yet!
5 dolaction 2015-11-10
Automation, which would mean shilling
12 TheGreatDane8D 2015-11-10
It says 34 seconds now
9 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
Had to stop for sex with OP's mom? ;p
16 H1N11 2015-11-10
HOW MANY LIZARDS ARE YOU?!
2 RowdyRondaRousey 2015-11-10
Nailed him! Nice!
1 alllie 2015-11-10
Gotta be a group using the same account.
13 anonymau5 2015-11-10
Wow... Glad to see this account under the microscope.
0 agareo 2015-11-10
/u/trollabot CANT_TRUST_HILLARY
1 agareo 2015-11-10
Doesn't seem to work in this sub. Here's the report:
Great trust score there
1 Armadylspark 2015-11-10
Trollabot's trust score is questionable. Nobody knows how it works.
Myself, I rank at over 100%, so I'd take that as an indication that something is broken.
15 FloodMoose 2015-11-10
Paid ? Edit: Paid! user confirmed in more or less some verbiage herbage or something.
18 frothface 2015-11-10
They are posting continuously for about 14 hours/day, so yeah.
15 f0k4ppl3 2015-11-10
Since I'm in the right sub for this, here's my tin foil hat totally baseless and farfetched conspiracy theory about reddit; they make their money selling upvotes. There. I said it.
5 Jac0b777 2015-11-10
A quite plausible theory actually.
5 SchulzArmy 2015-11-10
Too smart, it's the marketing companies that are selling upvotes. Maybe they're giving a kickback to Reddit to allow it though. This thread seems to confirm that Reddit at least knows about it.
14 hawksaber 2015-11-10
Great way to "sway" people's thinking. This isn't a democracy anymore. It's just paid marketing. Those who have money have power. Disgusting and terrible.
-15 unruly_mattress 2015-11-10
lol
9 hawksaber 2015-11-10
You again? What, no more people to belittle in /r/WorldNews? So you don't have the courage to reply to my previous replies, but you just have to say "lol" in this new thread topic? Hmm... figures. Whatever, there's always "one" who's the trouble-maker/bad-apple in the bunch.
Anyways, if you read the post by the person that the OP is outing, s/he is more or less saying that there's a group of them paid to post stuff online. Get with the program, or get out. Your "lol" is useless.
0 WaitTilUSeeMyDick 2015-11-10
Sorry, are we jerking to the left or the right this time?
2 BasedAssadOfSyria 2015-11-10
الله اکبر
10 RazingAll 2015-11-10
Reposting karma whore?
-17 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
I try not to repost, and limit crossposting as much as possible
22 Dawg1shly 2015-11-10
Holy shit the bot is sentient!!!!
12 slapshotten11 2015-11-10
No, you just steal content from elsewhere, post on imgur, and not credit any original artists or websites. Also known as Freebooting. So thank you for punishing those who create content by not even attempting to credit them.
-2 bobbyvanda 2015-11-10
Lol steal.
8 brutay 2015-11-10
You wouldn't steal a reddit post, would you?
7 Alemace 2015-11-10
I call bullshit
-15 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
Fair enough, I did say try ;p
Mainly what I meant is that I won't take a top post from /r/aww and post it to /r/pics. I'll sometimes post to multiple subreddits at one time though (like if it's a post about Fallout, /r/fallout and /r/gaming might like it, and not all users overlap both subreddits).
I figure the upvote/downvote system will sort them appropriately.
Now in this case, /u/slapshotten11 has pointed out that this gif was already posted to /r/wtf. I did not know that bc I don't visit that sub, and karmadecay didn't say anything when I ran it through there.
Those posts don't look like they're going anywhere anyway. I guess I could delete them and maybe save reddit some space on their servers, haha. But they'll just fade into oblivion with no harm done.
6 slapshotten11 2015-11-10
Yup, you sure do.
eye roll
10 SpewGutzClothing 2015-11-10
I think we all know who the real culprit is here.
8 culdesacked 2015-11-10
Maybe it is mrbabyman from digg.
5 CANT_TRUST_BERNIE 2015-11-10
My assumption is that its simply people with no life. CANT_TRUST_HILLARY might just be a rabid Bernie fan who decided on that name. I tried an experiment where I completely followed CANT_TRUST_HILLARY's formula and reposted shit to numerous subreddits all day and I had over 10k in 3 days. Its like feeding a goldfish
4 mynamesyow19 2015-11-10
looks like IBM's Watson has analyzed Reddit and is karma-whoring us all...
or Ben Carson, that mad genius.. #!*!$
4 potato1 2015-11-10
They post a lot. 46 times in the last 24 hours by my count.
3 Sw33tbix 2015-11-10
I sent them a pm. I'm not a big reddit user so I'm not sure the etiquette involved, or even how to check my pm's. But if I get a response I'll let you know.
8 GoldenTruth 2015-11-10
lol
3 George_Tenet 2015-11-10
I actually chuckled to his comment. ..lol
-5 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
Hey, next time someone should just username mention me to this thread :)
7 ps4hero 2015-11-10
So how many kids in a trenchcoat are you?
-2 CANT_TRUST_HILLARY 2015-11-10
I like business... transactions
3 ps4hero 2015-11-10
CONFIRMED PAID SCHILL! WE GOT EM BOYS!
No more making business for you lil boy
0 englishmajorproblems 2015-11-10
30+ year old white males secretly admire the shallowness of your political fervor. Sure they're not Reddit's largest demographic but you're not here to have fun with us, you have a damn agenda!
I'll bet you were all kinds of fun in 2004 when Bush was getting re-elected.
-9 whatawonderfulship 2015-11-10
So you're going harass him?
11 ps4hero 2015-11-10
speaking to someone is harassment?
Then you just harassed sw33tbix right?
-7 whatawonderfulship 2015-11-10
No, I didn't send somebody a private message wanting to know why they have so much karma and if he or she is a freemason etc.
10 ps4hero 2015-11-10
"I sent them a pm."
Did he say something about freemasons elsewhere that I missed?
-4 whatawonderfulship 2015-11-10
Thanks for attempting to correct my grammar:)
4 ps4hero 2015-11-10
oook then, troll indeed
3 KingOfAllBlacks 2015-11-10
I dont think he trusts Hillary.
3 slapshotten11 2015-11-10
41 posts within the past 24 hours of this comment.
41
5 cawclot 2015-11-10
You should look at the posting history of frequent /r/conspiracy contributor /u/PostNationalism if you think that is a lot. Over 110 posts in the last day alone.
1 slapshotten11 2015-11-10
Holy shit, page 5 is still posts from the last 24 hours!
-1 PostNationalism 2015-11-10
Hi ;)
2 odplocki 2015-11-10
I vote this guy for president of reddit.
2 bourbondog 2015-11-10
We should have a voting system online.. Oh wait
2 KnightBeforeTomorrow 2015-11-10
You can buy reddit upvotes on a variety of websites. Here's one.
http://www.redditsecrets.com/buy-reddit-upvotes
There are also a number of reddit snooping sites to spy on any user's overall activity.
Reddit is a fishbowl.
http://www.redective.com/
http://snoopsnoo.com/
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/redditgraphs-visualize-someones-reddit-history/
None of these sites were able to find any record of
/u/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY
1 ZK686 2015-11-10
It's called having no life.
2 alllie 2015-11-10
No, it's called shilling.
1 drewiepoodle 2015-11-10
Hey, karmawhores are people too
1 [deleted] 2015-11-10
/u/trollabot CANT_TRUST_HILLARY
1 Greg_Roberts_0985 2015-11-10
To be fair, you can not trust Hillary Clinton or any of their bloodline.
1 bourbondog 2015-11-10
I think we need a bot that down votes outliers like there.
0 rememberthis1ok 2015-11-10
I think these accounts are always odd that have a ton of karma in a short amount of time. However, in this case, their best karma gains come from a Green Bay Packers subreddit and /r/gaming. They do the worst in /r/news. They certainly could be trying to build legitimacy for posting in the future or selling the account but, as it stands, they don't really do anything.
0 alllie 2015-11-10
When the shill accounts first started showing up on reddit in numbers, they would have an innocuous history, lot of gaming and sports. Then suddenly, when they were sold, they would start posting to politics or conspiracy.
1 rememberthis1ok 2015-11-10
Yeah, that is a possibility, I agree. It's just not happening with this account as of yet, at least not effectively.
0 EvisGamer 2015-11-10
There's a /u/CANT_TRUST_BERNIE, /u/CANT_TRUST_DONALD, and /u/CANT_TRUST_BUSH. Each of them created within the last month. Perhaps by this same shill. This is a trend that surely will continue. Simply by varying the format of the username just about anyone could fabricate a unique name of their desired subliminal message, and just repost the most popular links as fast as possible all day long.
How about /u/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY_is_a_shill
/u/CANT_TRUST_THE_GOP
/u/CANT_TRUST_SHILLS
/u/CANT_TRUST_CORPORATE_AMERICA
/u/CANT_TRUST_ANYONE
0 auriem 2015-11-10
https://www.reddit.com/user/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY/submitted/?sort=top
It's somebody with way too much time on their hands who thinks karma matters.
0 Third_Degree_Burns 2015-11-10
You're the worst
0 PythonEnergy 2015-11-10
A hard-working fellow who posts over 10,000 links a day?
0 nickert0n 2015-11-10
The fucked up part is, this is the only reddit username I ever notice on random posts. My guess its someones very effective form of subconscious programming.
0 VarusAlmighty 2015-11-10
Porn.
0 Knee_grow1 2015-11-10
What is the big deal about that?
-1 bumbleshirts 2015-11-10
A Bernie Sanders supporter who karmawhores every waking minute, just so as people see his username. Must think he's conducting some clever subliminal marketing shit.
The amount of karma really isn't unusual or impossible. If you dedicate all your time to this website, you can do it too.
5 Tunderbar1 2015-11-10
Why do you assume Bernie Sanders?
0 2_dam_hi 2015-11-10
Probably a frustrated former PUMA.
2 sheasie 2015-11-10
could be a trump supporter
or a clinton false flag
-1 TWALBALLIN 2015-11-10
Auto-bot shill
-5 tripsick 2015-11-10
Your first problem is believing in Internet Karma/Points.
Stop and think about that.. OK, now you have identified the problem now correct it.
It is just another Matter of control for those wanting to fit in so bad. it really is pathetic and appeals to the everyone is a winner crowd. Just be PC and watch those points grow. L O L..
4 [deleted] 2015-11-10
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2 BLACKICER 2015-11-10
Good explanation. My problem with it is all the funny posts get seen but if you have a dissenting opinion you get downvoted into obscurity...this is the "circle jerk" environment of reddit you year about.
1 BLACKICER 2015-11-10
The downside to karma is when you go negative karma your posts are not read if below threshhold. Theres a link next to your karma to display by subreddit.
-12 [deleted] 2015-11-10
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0 [deleted] 2015-11-10
White mans burden
4 RowdyRondaRousey 2015-11-10
Oh yes, apparently it's quite the growing industry.
2 DiarrheaMonkey- 2015-11-10
Are you masterfully deducing that from my 93 link karma? Even if he had that's gonna average max 4000 per which, if that were even half the karma would mean 115 front page posts in 90-120 days, so probably a little more than once/day. Does that seem likely to you? In the week I looked at I didn't see any significant post scores.
Edit: Looked long term. Apparently he has a ton of 5k+ posts to non-default subs like /interestingasfuck and /gaming.
1 rememberthis1ok 2015-11-10
Yeah, that is a possibility, I agree. It's just not happening with this account as of yet, at least not effectively.
1 whatawonderfulship 2015-11-10
Mostly just stay away, there are way too many cons.
3 California_Viking 2015-11-10
That smart phone will never take off. People love spending time crouched in front of their computers.
3 york100 2015-11-10
It will be interesting to see if he keeps posting if Hillary loses...
3 kgt5003 2015-11-10
And he even has the story wrong. The accusations are that he would pull his dick out in front of female comics and jerk off in front of them. He isn't being accused of physically molesting anybody.. just being a giant creep. And, again, there is 0 evidence of it anyways.
7 Mike-Oxenfire 2015-11-10
That's amazing. The lizard people can't deny it they can only either say yes or not answer. Hahaha