Well, on the internet, the TPP got replaced by coffee cups.

That's pretty stupid.

whats the thing about the coffee cups?

Starbucks cups don't have snow flakes on them this year or some shit. Basically it's bored people coming up with reasons to be offended at this point.

I honestly think the whole Starbucks thing is just a marketing scheme made up by Starbucks. I haven't heard of one single person make a big deal about the cups until it hit on social media. Seriously, I don't think one single person gives a flying fuck that there are no snowflakes on the cup.

All those that are scared of ending up on 'a list' for questioning ISIS or whatever need to realize that if they discuss these manufactured events on their social media they end up on another government list of gullible cunts.

And watch how we can't do fucking anything.

Well we can do something, getting involved in privacy and security

learn programming?

Yes, but in the big picture we really can't. The government/whoever is in control of all this shit has basically everything in their hands and no "movement" from the people will stop anything. As much as I support fighting against the government when shit isn't right, I think that the 1-2% of the population that stand up would have 0 impact on anything.

Almost everybody I come across has no interest/are so closed minded about everything the government are doing to the populace that I don't think anyone really has any say at all.

What do you think 'the government' is doing? Is the USPS mailing bombs while the Federal Bureau of Prisons is giving psychopaths tans, bombs and guns and sneaking them into Paris with the help of the Coast Guard and telling them to kill a bunch of random people so France will sign up with the TPP?

Or is it possible the terrorists who have already attacked Paris, repeatedly, are simply trying again?

I'm sorry I didn't mean specifically with the France attack. We don't even know enough to comment if it's false flag or whatever. I was just meaning the whole TPP thing.

Nah man just don't go to starbucks

i said this millennia ago ... there's nothing we, the people, can do about the TTIP ... it will pass and it will pass everywhere

unanimous support my ass ....

Not exactly, you can join the lodge, and bring your friends.

And watch the 'terror attack' be blamed on the influx of Syrian refugees. This entire story already reeks of misdirection and distraction

Was listening to a station out of TN and most of the afternoon was just shotgun bits of info but around 7 pm EST this one host mentions the refugees and "do we really know who they are" and a co-host shoots her down saying "people died today, and that's your spin on it?"

So, it's already started...

https://www.rt.com/news/208187-israel-france-grave-mistake/ "grave mistake" to recognize Palestine

in France there's people who blame the refugees, but plenty are also aware this is dumb.

On the news in France they keep on saying AK-47s were used. When they show you an "AK" on French tv, it's very often a VZ 58, a totally different Czech weapon.

But people are victims to the Gell-Mann effect especially when they hear these tragic news.

Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect works as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward–reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story–and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read with renewed interest as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about far-off Palestine than it was about the story you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.

That is the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. I’d point out it does not operate in other arenas of life. In ordinary life, if somebody consistently exaggerates or lies to you, you soon discount everything they say. In court, there is the legal doctrine of falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus, which means untruthful in one part, untruthful in all. But when it comes to the media, we believe against evidence that it is probably worth our time to read other parts of the paper. When, in fact, it almost certainly isn’t. The only possible explanation for our behavior is amnesia.

They will sneak the TPP in a lame duck session if we get an anti-TPP presidnet in 2016.

Recent events - The US was exposed waging a fake war against ISIS. US, Israel, Saudi backing of ISIS.

Russian plane crash US prematurely tries to decide what happened before the truth came out.

ISIS, the Wests proxy terrorist army that is trying to take out Syria's Assad is getting blown to bits by Russia.

How else are the powers going to have an excuse to put boots on the ground in Syria and take over where ISIS failed? Massive false flag attack by none other than ISIS, the bad guys for any occasion except they are really us...it's their pathetically over used tactic and anyone who has been paying attention can see through this bullshit.

https://www.rt.com/news/208187-israel-france-grave-mistake/

You've summed it up perfectly. No doubt the terrorists themselves are genuine jihadist fanatics. But they are also tools of those who want "boots on the ground" in Syria.

Help me understand how a proxy terrorist group is able to get operatives to commit suicide bombings?

You think the grunts at the bottom really know who's at the very top? They just know their 'boss' said to go, and maybe that their boss's boss said to go or whatever. But go high enough and it's a whole different ballgame.

I agree. Grunts still got hearts and minds. These can be corrupted of course, even through religion in order to achieve and end. My point is that the layers needed would so many and so deep, I just don't think all those people can keep that secret.

Who says anyone ACTUALLY blew themselves up vs. a planted bomb and a story?

money and threats ... it's quite easy actually ... you either do it or we blow up your house with your children in it ... see? even you would do it should someone make you an offer you can't refuse

Even given the choice that seems like no choice at all, is still a choice. The phrase really should be one where they WON'T refuse.

I was just thinking this..

Now the coalition will have more leverage on the Syria issue than the Russians. WE NEED TO INTERVENE LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN FRANCE!!!

Don't forget that an Israeli music company pulled the Immigrant Invasion-European replacement video.

Or, rather do NOT watch the misdirection.

Stay positive and have well intent. These actions of yours will do wonders for this Earth.

When is the TPP due to get passed and go into effect?

eh, we'll have a year for discussions and talks and every nation needs to pass it, it needs unanimous support all over the world ... yada yada yada ....

watch it being passed everywhere with minimum discussion.

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