I just clicked on the "Controversial" tab to find that 11 posts I've up-voted in the past 24 hours are there.

Your new ID : the Midas touch

I downvote so often in this sub, very rarely do I upvote someone.

Shit like this

Why is this garbage meme/comic bullshit getting upvoted and on the front page? /r/conspiracy is too big now, too many people. I think the rules should change that all posts have to be self-posts, because all this blogspam/meme/4chan/shitty journalism bullshit just needs to go.

My immediate thoughts are it's being upvoted because it's garbage. I highly believe shills do this to shift focus onto garbage distractions. My hypothesis on this.

Yes, there are a couple of subs that are totally obsessed with /r/conspiracy, not because "stupid" stuff is posted here, but because subjects are raised and topics are discussed that some people don't like being discussed.

Their goal is to make a mockery of this sub, ridiculing the participants so that lurkers will be reticent to participate - lest they also be ridiculed.

Given that motive, their best interests would be served by making shit posts and then brigading them with upvotes. That way the garbage rises to the top, while "taboo" subjects are buried.

This way the prevent "sensitive" material from being seen, and they supply themselves with more material that can be used to mock.

It's a simple game, and quite effective, sadly.

I swear I should be a moderator here. I'll clean this shithole up real quick.

You should check out the circus that plagues every Israel-related thread on /r/worldnews.

Could you summarize it? I have no intention to ever go there, it would just be an exercise in frustration.

Not just yours.

Why do you guys think you're special enough for what seems like thousands of shills to spend all their times here here? Everyone outside of this sub considers you guys retarded, your opinions are pretty irrelevant.

Good, now get the fuck out. Back to your favorite LGBTQBBQABXY subreddit.

Are you trying to imply i'm an sjw? I don't see how you made that connection.

I am prone to be receptive to conspiracy ideas, but I'm having a really hard time with this one. If you can provide real proof (and please please PLEASE don't embarrass yourself with 'proof' from infowars and the like), I'm hop on that train in a second.

SUCH bullshit. You make a post claiming "Right after a major false flag event it is very important to visit the new queue" and then pretend to not understand what some one means when they ask for proof.

You are getting your panties in a bunch. He just wanted to make clear whether the question was about the massive downvoting or about the false flag claim. I'm sure he would give his answer after that part was cleared up.

Did I incorrectly infer that "right after a major false flag event..." referred to the attacks in Paris?

The attacks in Paris were claimed as done by ISIS. And ISIS is accepted amongst the grand majority, hell, everyone in conspiracy communities to be an operation created by the CIA and Israel. You can fill the rest in yourself after this information.

And ISIS is accepted amongst the grand majority, hell, everyone in conspiracy communities to be an operation created by the CIA and Israel.

Stop right there.

Almost everyone agrees that the US's stupid foreign policy is responsible for ISIS being created. NO ONE I know thinks that ISIS is a CIA operation.

Got any evidence for your claims?

https://archive.is/VZsWs

Here is an archived link with lots of articles making the connection between Isis and CIA.

The thing is you are half right. For years it has been a part of the US' Foreign Policy to arm+train dangerous factions for political purposes. We did it in Afganistan to fight to Soviets, we did it multiple times in South America with the Contras and other death squads to overthrow democratically elected governments. We have been arming and training rebels in Libya, Egypt and Syria for years. The West wants Assad out of power and ISIS very conveniently gave US a reason to go there and take him out.

Alright, I stopped...

Who is this everyone you are claiming? Your peers around your university or job? Remember I specifically phrased it as "everyone in conspiracy communities".

And ISIS is accepted amongst the grand majority, hell, everyone in conspiracy communities to be an operation created by the CIA and Israel.

Stop right there.

OK.

Almost everyone agrees that the US's stupid foreign policy is responsible for ISIS being created. NO ONE I know thinks that ISIS is a CIA operation.

Well, you are technically right because we don't know each other. But I do.

Got any evidence for your claims?

Where should we start?

Let's start with the Israeli Colonel captured in Iraq. You must have heard about it.

ISIS is supported by the US and Israel. There, now you know one person.

Don't forget Turkey，also.

At least they only support them - not created them. And it's probably only because the Turks really hate the Kurds.

I've yet to see credible evidence for this claim.

Then you aren't looking very hard. It has been heavily reported that while fighting ISIS，Turkey has been bombing the Kurdish forces. As the linked article explains，they have not been doing this in only Syria where a Kudish threat is more immediate to Turkey，but also in Iraq. How can this be written off as anything but air support for ISIS forces?

It's exactly the same as NATO supporting the FSA.

Turkey has been in an armed conflict with the Kurds since at least the 1970s. They want to prevent the Kurds from forming a state on parts of Syria and Iraq, because then the they risk the Kurds in Turkey declaring their independence from Turkey and joining to the newly formed Kurdistan.

This is actually happening, so it might not interest you so much as building a conspiracy theory based on a misinterpretation of a single event.

How can this be written as anything but support for ISIS forces? Well let me tell you, since you didn't even bother the read the very article which you linked to me, this goes to show how people like you are telling something and hanging on to it without even critically examining the situation yourself.

So let's begin. First of all, were you aware that the Kurdish group called 'YPG', the very ones Turkey is attacking, is essentially tied to the widely recognized terrorist group called PKK? A group of terrorists that have since the 70's been targetting and killing Turkish civilians? A group that's massacring entire Turkish villages. And for what? They want to gain independence and form their own nation. That's why in their mind it is ok to kill off as many Turkish people as possible. To quote the article:

The Y.P.G. is perhaps America’s most effective ally in Syria against the Islamic State. But American officials, though they will broadly acknowledge that they are working with the Y.P.G., take pains not to detail just how closely the forces are working together, given the group’s ties to the outlawed P.K.K.

Openly admitting that America is working with the same terrorists that murders the Turks.

Let's continue:

Kurdish fighters have been coordinating with the American military since last October. From cloaked rooms in northern Syria, members of the militia known as the Y.P.G. have relayed intelligence and coordinates for potential airstrike targets to an American operations center hundreds of miles away. The resulting strikes have in turn helped the Kurds seize a broad stretch of territory along the Turkish border from the Islamic State.

Do you start to see where this is going? The YPG and PKK terrorists don't care much about ISIS being defeated as much as they are fighting against them for their own gains, which is to gain control of the regions south of the border of Turkey. And by having control over those regions they can further form a threat to Turkey from those locations.

It is no wonder at all why Turkey is attacking the "Kurds" (this is what the media calls them to create the illusion that Turkey is killing random Kurds instead of attacking terrorist Kurds which are alligned to known terrorist groups). These strategic games go deeper than at first glance. Erdogan is not a stupid man, he knows what those YPG Kurds are up to and what their intentions are. He is merely thwarting their plans. Erdogan and Turkey is in no way supporting ISIS.

Fun Fact: the Turks call the Kurds 'Mountain Turks'.

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Rule 10. Removed.

Created by, yes. But, the implication is they are currently being run by the same two entities.

Conspiracy people are morons?

False flag

You're the one that called it a false flag, provide your proof.

Let me guess "it is on the news."

What proof, there were claims of false flag on here being upvoted to double digits when the attack was less than 10 minutes into happening.

When you think about it, the reddit system is so shitty. Basically if you aren't being upvoted constantly, your thread disappears more and more into oblivion, regardless if it is a good thread or not. I would bet that not a lot of people even click on the new tab and almost no one who does click on it goes further than 3 pages beyond. Lots of good threads buried under piles of shitty shill disinformation threads.

So question everything & everybody except those with claims of false flags.

I like this article from CBS, where that conveniently found Syrian passport might be fake:

However, a U.S. intelligence official told CBS News the Syrian passport might be fake. The official said the passport did not contain the correct numbers for a legitimate Syrian passport and the picture did not match the name.

How would a fake passport constitute a false flag? Surely if this was all an extremely elaborate hoax, they could have gotten a real passport? Wouldn't the more plausible logic for using a fake passport be for a terrorist from Syria successfully getting himself into the country?

And then on the day he's going to participate in a huge terrorist attack he decides to bring his passport.

Sure.

Just so the wrath of the West can be properly focused. How considerate.

And a properly placed passport or newsitem of a passport frames the conflict perfectly for John Q. Public as a false identity/blame - exactly what a FF is. You don't need crisis actors. Just a media apparatus that can frame the event for you any way you want.

As other people have pointed out in other threads, identification is required in France. Surely that's a more logical conclusion than false flag? Or maybe, just maybe, the terrorist wanted people to know that he was from Syria, so he brought his passport? How does passport immediately point to "huge fabricated event"? Surely logic tells us that there are much more obvious conclusions that can be drawn before deciding that passport=conspiracy?

So, it's illegal to walk around without identification in France so the terorrist complies with this law.

However, it is also illegal to shoot people and kill them. Unfortunately, the terrorist does not comply with this law.

Do you realize how ridiculous this sounds to someone who distrusts the media (for good reason, might I add)?

Well if he got caught by a police officer with no passport he might not be able to fulfill his mission. You wouldn't speed in your car with drugs in the trunk would you?

Sure.

Excuse me, Mr. Mohammed - papers please.

Here you go.

Thank you, Mr. Mohammed. What do you plan on doing with those bombs and and semi-automatic weapons?

Nothing.

OK.

Like that?

Do you get pulled over in Paris for looking like a Migrant? What are the odds? Are they as racist as America is (driving while black-style)?

Do you realize how ridiculous it is to think that the entire terrorist attack was a false flag? Does that really seem like a more logical conclusion to you?

Did I say anything like that?

I'm merely picking apart your stupid argument that a terrorist would carry around an easily identifiable collection of documents so the whole world would know who he was and where he came from.

If I were involved in something like this, I would carry around false papers all the time to deflect and to send attention in the opposite direction of where it should go.

But I guess these idiots who are smart enough to evade France's gun laws and surveillance state (that was recently buffed up - thanks Charlie) couldn't figure that part out.

Want to try again with the reading comprehension?

Evidence seems to be pointing to the document being forged. How about you start using proof to form your theory instead of forming your theory and then looking for proof.

What document was forged?

The passport.

It's not a stupid argument by any measure.

• ID is required in France. No ID might mean a trip to the police station.
• One of the objectives of point of large-scale attacks like this is for people to know who did it. Especially with suicide attavks. If you want to get away with a crime then of course you wouldn't carry ID. If you want to commit an orchestrated attack and die in the process you don't take chances with being stopped by police.

These are all points previously pointed out by commenters above, but you're still being a jerk about it.

Please try to stop it.

Tell me about it...

Some attempts to post new threads are being blocked also.

Kind of sick of these Zionist PR firms doing all this manipulation on reddit to promote their narrative, like the JIDF and others. This is why you must go to the new queue.

Zionism is an bad ideology. They want to kill people to take land, that makes them bad.

Yet again, the most intelligent among us are gladly claiming that terrorism is NEVER real. Nothing bad ever happens without government help.

I'm amazed at their track record. To have never been one upped by any other group in a world with 6+ Billion people is very impressive.