Agenticity
24 2015-12-04 by Flytape
With a single word everything becomes clear.
I was studying the JTRIG slides leaked by Edward Snowden
https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
And one thing became clear to me immediately, These slides obviously were intended to be nothing more than visual aides for a presentation like training session. Yes the boring kind of shit you encounter while slagging your soul away for some corporate monstrosity which just adopted a new system for managing their dangleberries.
It doesn't matter what the system is, or what company its for... They always come along with some asshole who is never going to have to use the system, a power point presentation and an overly rehearsed speech that is supposed to pump up your morale and keep you engaged in the learning process.
They don't make these presentations for the highly skilled workers out there, presentations like these are intended to bridge the gap between those who design the "systems" and the poor unfortunate sods who will be slaving away behind a computer screen using the system until the system is replaced or they die from drinking too much coffee, eating too many donuts and never having time to exercise properly during the free hours of their monotonous lives.
http://imgur.com/sPswk8U This slide here, which I stole from https://theintercept.com/document/2014/02/24/art-deception-training-new-generation-online-covert-operations/ Shows that this training course is completed over the time span of a month or so. Under each cell it lists a time the section will take to cover.
So anyways AGENTICITY! I was looking at the slides and trying to reverse engineer what the presentation might have been like...
These three slides clearly build upon one another while some coffee drinking asshole with a laser pointer tries to be excited about teaching people how to be sociopathic cunts on the internet. Then his little red dot starts circling the word "AGENTICITY".
Agenticity pretty clearly covers the scope of how these JTRIG assholes exploit the unsuspecting minds around us, including your own. (my own, yeah whatever)
Agenticity is the general concept that our psychology is wired to see patterns in events and one can only assume this helps us quickly learn to survive in unfamiliar environments as cavemen or whatever. But as we evolved as beings and societies this basic wiring stuck around and SURPRISE! we still see patterns in shit.
Sometimes those patterns are useful and sometimes they result in us doing superstitious stuff that doesn't actually accomplish anything. But in the context of JTRIG I think they are exploiting this function to kind of hijack your agenticity reflex by pointing out the incorrect pattern associations, thus appealing to your hardwiring while distracting you from the correct pattern associations such as identifying the herds of JTRIG agents actually disrupting the ability of your community or social movement to be effective at whatever you're doing.
http://www.michaelshermer.com/2009/06/agenticity/ (read the comments about type I errors versus type II errors)
Here is a better explanation of agenticity.
TO BE CONTINUED...
These two slides were artificially separated in the original leak, but you can see that they make a lot more sense when they are side by side.
These people are quite literally here to http://imgur.com/y1uh7x1
Deny, Disrupt, Degrade and Deceive.
Oh yeah Flytape you guys are so important that the government is going to have special agents tasked with following you around on the internet! HA HA HA HA HA the toppest of minds!
Well you don't have to invent an engine that runs on nothing but water to cause a problem for the government. Simply having a group of reasonably intelligent people (no need to be Einstein) who aren't automatically convinced by every little propaganda piece published by your CIA operated new outlets is enough to warrant Disruption, Degradation, and Deception. You didn't train over 150 people to do just that in 2013 alone to never use them.
So what do they do here?
I can't be 100% sure but based on these slides they;
Submit mountains of shit that is off topic but appeals emotionally to people.
Attack people's character
Attempt to blend in with us by adopting our terminologies and behaviors so they can earn TRUST and later exploit that TRUST to Deceive.
Destroy the reputation of any emerging leaders they identify.
Disrupt creativity
many many things. The sum effect of all these actions over the long term create an extremely fractured and disfunctional community.
25 comments
7 MrMarmot 2015-12-04
Spot on, but I do drink coffee and resent being lumped with these other "coffee drinkers." Mine's organic fair-trade shit, regionally roasted by people I fucking know, brewed with water run through a $400 purification system. Fuck these K-cup/Folgers ("I'll just microwave the tap water and spy on people") motherfuckers.
5 Flytape 2015-12-04
lol fucking K-cuppers.
1 Gogkti 2015-12-04
What are Folgers?
1 MrMarmot 2015-12-04
This swill.
0 76superdave 2015-12-04
Damn that sounds like some good coffee.
" I don't need you to tell me how fucking good my coffee is, okay? I'm the one who buys it. I know how good it is. When Bonnie goes shopping she buys SHIT. I buy the gourmet expensive stuff because when I drink it I want to taste it."
You and I could have some coffee together and talk about shit, but most of us aren't very social. I get good coffee man.
Sorry seriously not trying to derail. Just wanted to drop that quote.
I have no doubt there's people here trying to move our thoughts from the truths.
0 MrMarmot 2015-12-04
I wasn't trying to derail or move the thoughts from truth either, but man I love my coffee. Your post is an excellent observation. Thanks for the Pulp Fiction ref.; I forgot about that scene.
0 76superdave 2015-12-04
You're a good guy in my book and thank you for the observation comment, I know you weren't trying to derail or move thought from truth.
I'd say most guys here have pretty good filters of the information goods, and also filters of who is here is really in the hunt for truth whatever that might be, even if they disagree.
And sometimes you just gotta take notice, and say damn that's some good coffee.
1 SokarRostau 2015-12-04
Considering the popularity of Starbucks, Americans don't know what good coffee is. At least you're starting to learn not to drink that pigswill percolated shit.
5 ForYourSub 2015-12-04
Strange, Flytape looks like someone who eats a lot of donuts to me.
4. Destroy the reputation of any emerging leaders they identify.
Like you did to Orangutan?
4 Putin_loves_cats 2015-12-04
The verdict is still out on Orangutan and AE911truth. Shit (AE911 truth) is smelling of controlled opposition (imo). Just my two cents. No dogs in the fight. BTW, the drama was from AATA not FlyTape. Just to be clear..
2 ForYourSub 2015-12-04
I just gotta wonder about the motive of someone who digs through tax records to discredit someone, isn't that exactly what a sneakey bad actor would do? Not arguing they might be controlled ops tho.
4 Putin_loves_cats 2015-12-04
or an investigator looking for the truth. I have no idea about either parties. I just thought I'd add my two cents. Was here during the whole drama. Not sticking up for anyone, just saying...
5 ForYourSub 2015-12-04
I remember flytape accusing Orangutan of not being racist enough, or words to that affect, and AATA accusing him of being a racist too after he fucked him over. What a mod eh? Class act. I also remember getting to vote on new mods but not on whether he should be allowed back, guess we know why.
3. Attempt to blend in with us by adopting our terminologies and behaviors so they can earn TRUST and later exploit that TRUST to Deceive.
Like this post? He aint even a conspiracist, ffs conspiracy, wake the fuck up!
2 MikeMillerTheKiller 2015-12-04
Fyi--Flytape was actually removed from the mod list for abusing power after his horrific Podcast. He was reinstated in a secret vote by the mod team later -- Orangutan was one of 2 mods who voted No. We all know what happened next.
I left the subreddit cuz of this fuckery... Shit is creepy and this post is way too ironic.
0 Flytape 2015-12-04
That shit never happened. You're a liar.
1 Flytape 2015-12-04
Certainly am glad you boys could drop by to spin the wheels today.
3 MikeMillerTheKiller 2015-12-04
I literally laughed out loud reading the username of who posted this thread. The irony is too funny.
JTRIG would love your antics. All the disruption, degrading, and destruction of this sub's reputation done for free! This post can't be real.
1 Putin_loves_cats 2015-12-04
If you think about it, the internet is a reality no different than dreams are...
-1 kingcubfan 2015-12-04
My question to friends is always, if it just disappeared one day, what would you do? What would the world do?
1 JUSTIN_HERGINA 2015-12-04
Have face to face conversations.
It'll be a weird phenomena.
2 kingcubfan 2015-12-04
Do you notice how face to face conversations have become somewhat awkward? I used to be much more social, but now I notice people do not pay attention to what your saying most of the time. Not like this is a brand new phenomena, just seems to be getting worse exponentially.
1 JUSTIN_HERGINA 2015-12-04
I gave up FB about 5 months ago. I mean, really got rid of my whole profile so it doesn't even have that ghost profile pic (that said, FB can hold that information for up to seven years) and I finally feel like I am back to my old self. I was grumpy, unsocial and generally dependent on what other people's points of view/problems.
Teenagers are fun to start face to face conversations with. Seriously, when they have their head buried in FB, they come out socially retarded, they find it really hard to string a sentence together and have an 'analogue' conversation. It's downright rude & these people should be mocked.
1 KeyEventDispatcher 2015-12-04
Wait a minute - what if the whole 'gang stalking' conspiracy was designed to make people see patterns in their lives and believe agents were behind it? What if real agents wanted people who looked into government black projects to believe that everything that happened to them was down to people stalking them and controlling their lives? Who needs to actually hire people to harass someone when you can just plant an idea in their minds and let it grow? Not only do people who fall for the idea become afraid, they also are seen as paranoid and crazy in the eyes of other people. Don't know if this is true, just speculating.
0 Flytape 2015-12-04
Like you for real gang stalk them for a couple of weeks and then just cut them loose to go mad in their own paranoia?
1 KeyEventDispatcher 2015-12-04
Well in cases where they really want to discredit or shut someone up - maybe. In fact I think that might be what happened to me. They would only have to fuck with someone a bit to make them really paranoid about everything.
edit: On the other hand, I wondered if I was maybe a bit mad beforehand. It just seems like at some point, when I started looking at conspiracy theories, some people decided to play on my natural tendency to be paranoid. It seems like tricks were played on me. I honestly don't know what the truth is.