What are your thoughts on Alex Jones?

2  2015-12-05 by [deleted]

Look, I know the typical accusations, shill, cia, controlled opposition, actual nwo member. But I honestly like to watch his show, I think he's funny and I want a mainstream person exposing the nwo but it does seem to good to be true. Does anyone have definitive proof of him being a shill or have any thoughts on him? It's been bothering me for a while. Thanks

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Half truths mixed with fear porn and click bait to sell ads.

I mean I see why the ads are annoying by really that's why he's controlled opposition. I've never once thought about buying the subscription, buying he's snake oil, or anything else. I really want to know what his goals are, not how he's trying to make money. And fear porn? How is any of this indicative of controlled opposition?

The goals are to make money, misinform, and portray conspiracy theorists as radical nuts, how is this difficult to understand?

Jones fulfills the same purpose that Lyndon LaRouche used to be used for: tell enough truth to inform but when it's brought up in other circles, they can point and say, "That's what LaRouche says, you wacky conspiracy theorist extremist."

I just don't see them misinforming people, there websites have sources and the show has the articles right there. If he's misinformed purposefully then let me know but at least be honest. Making money doesn't mean you aren't telling the truth and maybe Alex does come off as crazy not sure how this = conspiracy

He's the Rush Limbaugh of the dissenting class. He's a Judas goat and a gatekeeper. William Cooper called him out in 1999:

"Alex Jones, you are a boldfaced, stinking, rotten, little coward liar."

William cooper was a crazy, deceitful little man who avoided taxes, assaulted people, killed a cop then people made him out to be a martyr. I mean why is William cooper who says we have Russian, American, alien bases on Mars with no proof more credible than Alex jones? And rush limbaugh is controlled opposition? I mean damn I listen all the time and he doesn't seem to lie? Are you sure we aren't falling for the trap of thinking EVERYTHING IS a conspiracy. I mean he's the gatekeeper, what isn't he telling us then?

You mean the William Cooper who predicted a major terror attack on the USA a few months before 9/11 and said the govt. would try to pin it on OBL? That William Cooper?

And did you mean the Rush Limbaugh who was secretly carrying on a drug addiction to oxycontin while vilifying other drug addicts and saying they should go to prison? That Rush Limbaugh? Here's a bit more on just how honest Rush is: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/rush-limbaugh/

Bye.

I know he was addicted to drugs. Have you never done anything hypocritical? I smoke weed but tell others it can be addictive. Am I controlled opposition. And good I'm glad got will, the one hit wonder. Why would you say bye? I thought truthers were the ones for open discourse of thoughts and ideas?

"Truther" is a derogatory term created by the linguistics division of the CIA to undermine both the concept of "Truth" and the 9/11 movement. If you buy into all the term, I gotta ask: Why are you even in this thread?

As for doing anything hypocritical, sure -- we all have. But I'm not on a media-granted pedestal telling others what to do, I'm not a self-proclaimed hero of all that's good and right. I also provided you with a link to literally hundred of Limbaugh's lies, which you've completely ignored.

Additionally, a lot of what you write here is inarticulate, I don't really know what you're saying -- "And good I'm glad got will, the one hit wonder." -- no idea what that means.

I do take your point about open discourse to heart, but I also think it's totally possible you're trolling me to waste my time, which I'm not interested in. Read the Politifact link and tell me how many lies you think Limbaugh's told. If you tell me "none," then we really have no open discourse to pursue.

Thank you for your response.

Well I'm sure rush has lied, I only recently had drive time where limbaugh is one and he seems alright. I'm not really invested in it so I believe you. And that was a typo. It's supposed to be I'm glad for will, the one hit wonder because it seems thats the only thing he's ever done. And I say truther because it's easier to type than conspiracy theorist or super smart non sheeple truth seekers or whatever you want to be called. All I want to know is what does jones do. Does he completely lie, does he try to incite violence, does he say the truth but leaves out the perpetrators? Basically, I just want to know if I should stil listen to him with a grain of salt or just completely stop. I don't know why you're trying to say I don't belong here? My life goal since I got to college and started taking polisci is to expose the truth and Alex jones tbh have sent me to a lot of truth as I research what he says and most is true.

OK. Thanks for your civil reply.

I think Jones, as others have pointed out, is a "Gatekeeper." He mixes truth with lies. It may be to keep himself alive, but I doubt it. If you're digging into The Secret History of this planet, you could do worse than Jones, but you could do a lot better.

If you are really digging, seeking, wanting to know, the best person who cuts to the esoteric truth of what's happening is Mark Passio. But he's digging into it from a spiritual and multi-dimensional sense, not the material world in which we live.

If you want to dig into the material world conspiracies of power and corruption and control, I recommend the work of the late, great Dave McGowan ("Programmed to Kill" and "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon," among others) and Nick Bryant ("The Franklin Scandal").

Dig into Skull & Bones, the Yale secret society, and the work of Kris Mililgan.

And you know what else? You should pray. Pray for guidance, pray for WISDOM (not knowledge, WISDOM) and that the things you learn -- and you WILL learn them, believe me -- do not corrupt you.

Best wishes and best of luck.

Thank you for the info but I just want to give this little side note. I was researching on the demonic side of the elite and there encounters with satan an fallen angels and I started to think for only a moment "what if I joined these people, got whatever I wanted, ruled the earth" then I became sick to my stomach. Your comment about not letting it corrupt you is spot on. I was a hardcore atheist that actively shit on religion. Soon after listening to Alex jones I did my own research and found we are up against actual, literal, pure evil and started to move towards christianity. We are fighting something so insidious and we as humans have become so morally bankrupt that there is no stopping it. In my heart of hearts, I believe satan is coming in my life time(I'm 20) whether it's through AI, dna splicing or he just comes to our world. What sealed it is that the mark of the beast was literally being put into the right hand as revelations stated. Just remember christ said, "All those that hate me, Love death"

The anti-Christ may or may not be coming in our lifetime, but I can assure you the assholes pulling the strings, the "evil that rules but does not control," sure wants you to think it is.

People have been predicting the Final Battle for aeons. So far everybody's been wrong, so the odds are against you. That said, the signs sure seem to be nigh, I agree.

But it's not our call. For all we know, humanity is on the cusp of great change for the better, and we're going to have a couple hundred years of an improved earth before we fuck it all up again. A thousand years is nothing to the universe, not even a speck.

Thank you for your reply.

Did you just throw in "avoided taxes" as if it's supposed to demonize him, lol?

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

(Really? You think the IRS is a legitimate organization? You do realize they're a private collection agency. They're as legit and on the level as the Federal Reserve.)

Your character assassination attempt accused Cooper of being "deceitful". You want to see REAL deceit? Check out the IRS. They're con-men who seize funds from people's accounts who've committed no crimes. They've been doing it left and right lately. One business owner fought them and had her money returned. See here: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20141214/11540529440/irs-drops-its-asset-forfeiture-case-against-owner-small-cash-only-restaurant.shtml

Another business owner had over $100,000 stolen from his account. See here: http://dailysignal.com/2015/05/11/the-irs-seized-107000-from-this-north-carolina-mans-bank-account-now-hes-fighting-to-get-it-back/

You have any evidence of Bill Cooper stealing from people?

Because I have tons of examples of the IRS doing it.

So you shouldn't invoke the word "deceit" and compare the IRS to Bill Cooper. That's not a contest the IRS is going to win.

The irs is corrupt. the sky is also blue

I mean why is William cooper who says we have Russian, American, alien bases on Mars with no proof more credible than Alex jones?

Cooper recanted all of his "alien" shit before he died. He had the balls to admit when he was wrong.

EVERYTHING IS a conspiracy

If it involves the Money Powers, the US government, the policing powers and the media, it is a conspiracy. Those that seek and hold political worldly power are conspiring by definition.

what isn't he telling us then?

Jones never, ever touches on the biggest disinformation and brainwashing campaign of the past century. I'll give you one guess what it is.

Cooper was the real deal.

What did he know?

Probably nothing. He was fed disinformation over his life. But the man was honest.

Fed by who? So they were pushing aliens to hide either more down to earth far spread corruption or even worse things like demons?

If you listen most of what he knew was from his time in naval intelligence. I suspect it was there he was fed the dis-info then later through his various contacts. There is a video where he says aliens are BS. He was right about totalitarianism but wrong about other things.

MJ12 was real right. I'm sorry my bias is showing but I really really want aliens to have been in contact with the us or at least some research on them. Any idea how possible that stuff is?

Earth is literally in the middle of galactic nowhere. We are so far from any inhabitable star that it is not feasible for intelligent life to come this far. Any craft would have to travel an insane amount of time to reach us. Aliens will be used as a solidifying and unifying force to form the final world tyranny.

Ok you right I should have rephrased do you think there is sentient life forms somewhere out in the universe. I definitely see the viewpoint that aliens haven't been here. I believe they have but that alien false flag world government thing makes total sense

Yes, I definitely think we are not alone, earth cannot be the only rock with intelligent life. I also believe most UFO signings are either government black ops vehicles they don't want us knowing about or supernatural events.

I could totally even believe that there are other intelligent species native to our solar system either on earth or elsewhere. Cooper mentioned in his book sightings of craft entering and leaving water. I am not opposed to a underwater or subterranean advanced civilization that secretly controls us plebs on the surface. And nobody talks about Venus.

Like the norway lights what the fuck was that shit.

Who do you listen to for news. I mean I love talk radio in general and Alex really was funny to listen and informative. From quick research and accepting the info Alex is following the cointelpro methods of dividing the base and inciting violence and craziness to marginalize the group, radicalize them and break them up. I'll probably continue to listen but it sucks because he's working for the other tean. On a side note tho what WILL work? Peaceful things and spreading info will clearly not work. What is there to do

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheRealNews

I like these guys, Zerohedge is good but I don't check it enough.

Also http://www.truthdig.com/staff/chris_hedges.

Also in your opinion what's they goal of the final tyranny?

The final tyranny is world serfdom. The new society will consist of three classes the rilers who will be the genetic kings, the experts who will be the priest class, and the citizen slave who will be all else.

I believe the final tyranny is forced worship of Satan tbh

Most definitely. That is already well rooted. People who warship the self are satanists without even Wong it.

The core of all masonic teachings is luciferian teachings

Yes and no. Masonry is a interesting beast. I actually think Pike might have been a good guy. But, fuck Lafayette.

Albert pike, the satanist, head of the KKK and architect of the plan for world wars with a coming battle between islam(and the satanists) vs Christianity. This is my OCD showing but what is the percentage that Alex jones in controlled opposition. I just hear so much truth in what he says

Have you ever read Morals and Dogma? It is a very good work of esoteric study. The third world war letter is a forgery. Doesn't mean it doesn't matter though. It is still a message to us.

I heard it was fake but it just seems to mirror reality too well. I have not read morals and dogma, is it not satanic?

It is a vast amount of knowledge.

What were your 2 biggest take aways from it

It is basically a self help book. Goal oriented direction. And how to alchemically transform the self.

From a quick search it said it was basically to shed a little light on freemasonry and the occult with no intention of ever revealing it

If you can read between the lines he lays everything out.

So how is it a self help book while simultaneously laying out the new world order. I'm seriously wondering

What if I told you we are supposed to make the NWO?

I would whole heartedly disagree even if it was later out specifically in the bible. A new world order is hell

Dude the Old World Order is hell.

Now complete automation and sameness is hell. The new kingdom wouldn't include backwards death cults like islam, wouldn't include communists like China. I am a huge proponent if national sovereignty and nationalism. We must keep our differences of ideas and cultures. If we had leaders of good in our system we could create an amazing world with sovereignty and individualism. The new world order is not the answer simply a deception by satan so he can rule over the rule with ease

I think you misunderstood. We are supposed to build our own NWO to battle the elite NWO. Good vs evil trope.

That's the thing, I don't want a new world order. I just want the good people of the world to fight the evil trying to Mae a new world order

We have been tasked to build the kingdom in this world.

I'm sorry I want Mexicans to be Mexicans, Chinese to be Chinese and Americans to be Americans. This idea is something I have formed over my life and would take precedent over biblical calls to action for me. In my opinion the kingdom here on earth is not the new world order but an enlightenment of all people through non coercive means where every person works towards the betterment of man in their own ways and by there own means. It is not forced but a state everyone must achieve through their own thoughts. The new world order that would be made by the elites is simply the Devils work

Nations are not the same as cultures. We do not need borders to have peace. Government is the enemy not the answer.

Yeah I understand where you are coming from but in my opinion peace is unattainable and government is a must for a civil society. Something close to the ideas of the founding fathers is best in my opinion. Really go to the middle east and tell me you want those people running wherever they want in and any part of the world

Not to mention all masonic teachings like alchemy and shit was literally given to man by fallen angels

But actually what do you think about aliens and did cooper really say everything he said about aliens was wrong? I really want to knw

Aliens are bullshit. People that believe in aliens are no different from religious nutjobs that believe in a skygod.

Well that's pretty insane to me. Do you mind explaining why you,believe that. Do you think there is no other life besides what is on earth period even as we realize the universe is bigger than we could possibly imagine

It seems a little bit nutty to think we our the only form of life in the entire universe...

Honestly I don't know of what the biggest thing is, so really let me know and then what WAS cooper right about? If he recanted all of his alien shit(and all of it? :( I want aliens to be real) then why does his opinion of Alex matter? He's just a super crazy one. If there is one person who made all conspiracy theorists look like nuts it was COOPER, not jones

what WAS cooper right about?

He predicted 9/11 and that bin Laden would be blamed.

Seriously, what disinfo/brainwashing topic does Jones never touch?

Dude I honestly don't know just say it. Jews?

"Achieving our quest of a “new world order” depends on our learning the Holocaust’s lessons."

Ian J. Kagedan, November 26, 1991

Director of government relations for B’nai Brith Canada

B'nai B'rith is the parent organization of the Anti-Defamation League.

Totally believeable and true but I just don't see a big enough of a connection to trump. A front group has to at least do some of what's is supposedly doing to operate aka defend against defamation. They've never helped out savage but he still supports trump, he's also a jew.... new world order?

Savage isn't smart enough to be in the club.

But Alex jones is?

Jones is smarter than Savage. They're both equally corrupt.

First from listening to both of them a lot savage is a lot smarter imo. I mean just yesterday called that the wife radicalized the shooter and I've read his books. And come on you just said he's not smart enough to be part of it yet now he's corrupt?

I hope you didn't buy his books. That would mean he's smarter than you.

I liked his books, gave some good info, viewpoints and facts. What's wrong with any of that. It seemed he was able to articulate a lot of my feelings for me

It seemed he was able to articulate a lot of my feelings for me

Don't ever give anyone that power. Learn to do it yourself.

If you need someone else to articulate your feelings, how can you even learn to think for yourself?

Through books, learning new info and seeing new points you can use it all to develop your own new, unique points

Random question, do you believe high level nwo elites are luciferians? And do you think it's just a belief or is there actual contact. And yes I know this would be labelled "tinhat: crazy but as far as I know open thinking is still not illegal in the ussa

He had his day, woke a lot of people up, but that day has passed.

For reasons of self-preservation, greed, lust, blackmail or madness, he is no longer an asset for enlightenment.

That's because "we're" actually winning, or at least making significant inroads. I literally knows at least 25 people who used to think I was a fringe thinker, but now question everything they read and see.

Cable TV/Satellite TV subscriptions continue to fall, especially among the educated. It's a heyday for alternative media, which is why the intelligence communities are working overtime to infiltrate and toss (Operation) CHAOS shit our way.

The best thing I've heard recently was from a friend of mine who quoted the pastor of his church:

"Evil Rules this world. But it does not control it."

Everyone should remember that. This is a fight that's been going on forever, nobody ever wins and nobody gets out of here alive and none of us are supposed to. The key is to get off this rock and on to the next phase of existence, whatever that it.

But Alex Jones? His time has passed, at least as a relevant communications force.

They moved along with their plans too fast. 2008 was not handled correctly, the reverberations of which bring light to the eyes of the blind each day. Now with how sloppy they are being it takes work not to see the truth.

What was it about 2008? Could you extrapolate? Everything else you write jives with my worldview, would like to hear more.

Well it is extremely complex but people were pretty patriotic and gung-hoe imperialism until the bailout. People lost hope and trust in the government when they allowed so many people to lose their houses while the banks got massive capital injections. IMO it was what began waking people up. When Kodak and all of those companies went under and the country was hemorrhaging jobs they didn't do anything to stop it. Anyone who was effected by the handling of the last financial crisis came out of it 1. not trusting banks and 2. not trusting the government. If you talk to the average person they will straight up tell you how fucked they think everything is. It is not like it was before where you would talk to them and they would think everything is good and rosy up on the hill. The problem is the average person feels powerless to the corruption and has a difficult time articulating their disapproval. This is why we see so much identity politics that people latch on to. They do not understand the TPP because they don't have time. The feeling of powerlessness actually plays into the power of the elite. When we do nothing we acquiescw to their will.

This could also explain the increasing apathy among the population. I bet 35% or less even vote in 2016.

Thank you for this intelligent and informed reply.

If Trump or Sanders ends up on the ballot, you will see a shit-ton higher voter turnout than 35%.

If it ends up a Bush/Clinton race, we may well see only 35% -- but we may also see a third party entrant, and if that happens, and then all bets are off on turnout.

I wager neither trump nor sanders end up on the ballot.

Not a wager I would take. I agree with you.

What I'm waiting to see is if they just flat out try to steal the nomination for that evil fucker Bush. It really would be audacious, just daring America to call them on it. You know the media will fold.

Bush is done for unless he puts on a dress.

I am thinking they will find someone else to join the race and make a clean sweep. People could still join the race. The end date is jan 12th. We could still see a new face the powers pull from their belt.

So it went from controlled opposition to his time has passed? He has the largest following. Also, operation chaos could you explain that

Man, if you don't know what Operation CHAOS is, you really need to get on the stick about clandestine intelligence operations in the USA against its own people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_CHAOS

Definitely start researching the Church Committee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee

You might also look into Operation Mockingbird, a CIA operation to infiltrate and influence and corrupt the media. They claim it's been shuttered, but anyone who reads/sees the "news" knows that's bullshit. I've little doubt Limbaugh is a top level Mockingbird asset.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

I've heard of mockingbird and the church committee to infiltrate religion. I will look into chaos. I'm just wondering what exactly would rush be doing as a mockingbird agent. Like really I just don't understand. What's this hidden truth he's hiding? Whose he protecting. He's not inciting violence like Alex jones. I mean I just don't want to live a life of thinking everything is a conspiracy. It's just not true, if it was we would all be worshipping satan by now. There's got to be something fighting back right?

As I wrote in my original comment, here's what's going on, as quoted from the pastor at my friend's church:

"Evil rules the world, but does not control it."

And no, not everything is a conspiracy. But many more things have conspiratorial roots than society realizes.

I will offer you this, though: We may not all worship Satan, but what is worshipped in this country, more than anything else? What drives and motivates the majority of the people? MONEY. It's even got a "In God We Trust" statement on it. So we may not be worshipping Satan, but we're sure worshipping the golden calf.

I will add that as I've dug into all this stuff, I've come to realize that there are conspiratorial forces for Good as well as evil. Pray about it...you might find an unexpected new connection in the weeks to come.

Best wishes.

This video by Austin residents about Alex Jones would seem to show that Alex is compromised.

There was a Neo-Nazi radio host a few years ago who turned out to be an FBI informant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner#FBI_informant

Thank you for some evidence. That does seem to be incriminating. Pretty much seems like he tells a lot of truth but discredits us by looking crazy and divides people.

That Austin video is even more damning than anything I've ever read or imagined. Pretty much closes the door on Alex Jones for me.

At the VERY LEAST, he's an egomaniac who doesn't want any oxygen in the room for any other alternative thinkers. But I think we're way passed the very least.

Do you think he's just using cointelpro methods? What is his goal?

He's a fame whore, is my guess. That's the easiest answer. He's a false messiah with a legion of followers, and he digs it.

He could be MK Ultra victim, or flat out evil CIA deep cover agent, or Bill Hicks having a huge laff on all of us, but fame whore probably covers it.

Seems like there have been a lot of posts on Jones lately. You can get an idea on this thread, posted a couple of days ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3va7in/eli5_if_alex_jones_is_so_visible_and_vocal_about/

And many others here.

TL;DR - Jones is the controlled opposition, the face and voice of the "raving-lunatic-conspiracy-theorist". Laces his lies with just a little truth.

Would you say it's mostly truth, I mean I see the damn articles and look it up myself it real. Does he just keep the zionists hidden? I mean he says the truth until Jews or aliens are brought up. As long as he doesn't just straight up lie I will continue to watch and laugh all while keeping an open eye for misleading info or lack of Jew info. Would you say he mainly lies or many looks crazy to discredit truthers. Maybe he really is crazy and not controlled opposition. I'm sorry lol I just honestly like his show

Oh man. OK. Interesting that you never post here and this is what you post. Honestly. Keep enjoying Alex Jones.

I honestly just found this thread linked from conservative. I tried visiting /r/conspiracytheory and there was no activity so I'm glad I found this. Alex jones got me back into conspiracy theories and I'm just wondering what the truth is about him. That does not mean just listen to whatever you say and believe it, that involves discussions. Let me guess you think I'm some paid shill to get people to watch Alex jones to listen to some unknown misinformation. Not trying to be mean but that may be a sign of paranoia

Oh paranoia yes yes.

What?

P-A-R-A-N-O-I-A

As is the case with several alternative news sources, Alex Jones has traditionally had some propaganda and some truth.

I did read an article recently that was more personal about Alex Jones. The author posited that Alex Jones' content seemed to be freer of NWO agenda pollution post his divorce.

The reason for this change was attributed to his ex wife's link to the Cabal.

If you cross check topics between alternative news agencies, on certain topics, you will see information correlations between the unbiased outlets and Info Wars that weren't there before.

Did you watch the trump interview?

Yes I did, I liked it. The only thing that worried me was if Alex is working for the other side then it's not good that he likes him so much. Your thoughts??

You liked it? Did you not think it was propaganda?

Jones is doing what Russel (Mila)Brand did. Bring people back to the fringe mainstream parties. Brand put his support behind the labour party in late 2014. Jones supports Trump, the self made billionaire.

I like trump a lot and think he's our only hope this election to slow the nwo honestly. Russel brand is a joke but what's wrong with trump? Michael savage endorses him heavily and I know savage is not controlled opposition I'm not falling for everything is a conspiracy.

I like trump a lot and think he's our only hope this election to slow the nwo honestly.

Trump is part of the NWO. Look who and what he supports:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm5Je73bYOY

Netanyahu isn't bad imo, the crazy islamists all over the middle east are. I know you'll say America created terrorists and all the turmoil but I disagree, Islam is a huge problem. Anyone else support him from the nwo? Why is bush and the establishment trying to put him down, I mean they are put of the nwo as well. The Hillary donations were par for the course. A true nut thinks everything is fake and a conspiracy. I'm not like that

Netanyahu isn't bad imo

Bibi is every bit as crazy as any fundamentalist, no matter the religion. He's a nutjob Zionist. The reason we have a "muslim problem" in the first place is because of the decades long support by the US of nutjob Zionists like Bibi.

Anyone else support him from the nwo?

The Anti-Defamation League defends Trump. They're one of the lynchpins of the NWO propagandas front.

They defended him once over supposed anti-semitic remarks. So that and supporting bibi=new world order? That's all it takes?

Trump backs one agent of the NWO - Netanyahu - and is supported by one of the oldest propaganda outfits of the NWO - The ADL.

If anyone but Trump had said what he said, the ADL would have screamed bloody murder. Trump's in bed with them.

There are a lot more articles about the adl condemning trump then supporting him

Their defense of Trump is recent. The ADL rarely, never that I can recall, defends someone that it's attacked before. I could be wrong.

I am sorry but Trump is a product of the NWO. He is one of them not one of us. Trump is a corporation first and a person second. Him as CEO would make America incorporated unstoppable. Look in to how he treats his workers.

What honestly do you think he would do to help you if elected?

I believe he would push back hugely against PC culture and pussification, he would restore our military to a powerful spot and undo the purge of top officials by obama, he would secure our borders and slow immigration, his tax plans seems to promote growth and would bring trillions into the us, I also believe his management skills would be key to controlling the beuracracy. Based on the info he is trying to bring forward like hehe global warming scam, 9/11 and Hillarys shit I think he is the best

Knowing how he runs his businesses he would probably have the government declare bankruptcy and stiff china and the globalists on the debt.

A couple businesses went under out of 100s, turned a couple million into billions?

He is not trustworthy.

Probably not but I just don't see a lot of the rumors in action. I just want to know his motivations. Is it to outright lie? To make truthers discredited? I mean it seems to me that if jones was working for the new world order then all he says is probably true and it's actually much WORSE than what it seems

It is called a hedge. He is not legitimately running for president. He is making money off of contributions like Romney did. He is the safety valve to ensure the right candidate makes it into office. I guarantee he will not win the election. Guranteeee.

Fine if you believe that. I bet you he wins in a landslide as someone of the people. I mean people are begging for someone to save them from the nwo whether they know it or not. He doesn't need to make money and is taking no money from large donors or pacs so....my only worry is a ross perot job

Okay what do you wager?

Ok you right I should have rephrased do you think there is sentient life forms somewhere out in the universe. I definitely see the viewpoint that aliens haven't been here. I believe they have but that alien false flag world government thing makes total sense

Also in your opinion what's they goal of the final tyranny?

I would whole heartedly disagree even if it was later out specifically in the bible. A new world order is hell

Do you think he's just using cointelpro methods? What is his goal?