Gene Rosen
44 2015-12-12 by shhfy
A bit of a lurker here and I have always enjoyed researching theories, studying photographic evidence and film especially, as that's my profession. I also (in my free time) have studied non-verbal language, persuasion, influence, deception detection and linguistics - I'm by no means an expert but I have been studying it on my own for the last 15 odd years.
I've looked at Sandy Hook and seen the evidence for and against it and although a lot of the evidence that is thrown around such as we have seen recently in other threads can perhaps be accounted for, there is something about it that doesn't seem right and it really holds my attention. I won't specify which physical evidence I think can be accounted for or not. I don't live in America, I'm not overly familiar with the whole affair and therefore find it impossible to say either way what could or couldn't be true. I can talk about people though.
Right off the bat, we see interviews with the family members of the victims - the mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters of the victims and one thing is consistent throughout - they are all coping with the sudden and shocking loss of their loved ones very well. Some will say they smiling and happy - some will pulse a video and say, see, they're smiling, they're laughing.
Pulsed video or still frames cannot portray a real moment in time as we process it. I know it doesn't, I've been shooting for 20 years and anyway it doesn't take a genius to understand that expressions are formed over time and muscles move in the face to create that expression, stopping it at a certain point in time cannot be considered an accurate account of what the expression may be unless it is already fully formed.
What I do see in the interviews though is this; they are almost forgiving, extremely well adjusted and extremely lucid and in control of their emotions. I can understand people in shock not wanting to come to terms with some horrific event and even pretending like it didn't happen until the reality of the situation really starts to take hold. But, the families seem to be very aware of what happened and very in control of their emotions. One would expect them to be unkept, down tempo and just extremely distraught. The loss of a child, especially by murder so motiveless and senseless, by automatic rifle... I could see the parents coming to terms with it and adopting a more positive outlook over months or years but in a day or so? The shock alone would take weeks. The motivation to talk about it publicly simply wouldn't be there, you'd be devastated.
Anyway, I wanted to talk about Gene Rosen. We all know he was enlisted in the local theatre and therefore he was acting... You could say hey he's an amateur actor so there you go, proof, case closed. I don't buy that, but here's the thing about Gene, in my opinion he definitely was acting.
The interviews over and over again in which he gave, recounted the story in almost the exact same words. The same intonation and timbre in his voice was used in the same words over and over again, just like badly rehearsed speech. The same pauses, the same hand on heart gesture, the same screwed up facial expression of pain, all of it inconsistent with a normal person recounting a multiple times.
There is little doubt, actually proof, he did rehearse what he was going to say in the link. Of all the alleged evidence suggesting Sandy Hook was not real, the fact that Gene Rosen rehearsed his words is the most compelling piece in my opinion.
We could perhaps discount the families relatively unemotional interviews days after the event as parents who are just well adjusted and very forgiving, extremely religious and positive. Or maybe a government entity came in and said, for the sake of the nation we need some strong characters to tell the world how wonderful their children were, to make it about them and not about the shooter. It's not unthinkable is it?
But Gene man, I cannot get past Gene. If this was a real event and what Gene said really happened can anyone give me any idea of why he would be rehearsing what he had to say? Does anyone know who the cameraman was? Who leaked the footage? When it was taken? According to the linked video, the footage was taken in his backyard and there is a helicopter buzzing around.
If the event was real, the only scenario I can imaging is this:
Gene is a keen amateur actor. He played a somewhat key role (for real) on the day of the event by helping some children. News crews were very keen to interview him. Taking this opportunity, Gene decided that he would take advantage of his famous fifteen minutes. He's perhaps a bit nervous and after agreeing to do interviews asked to borrow a cameraman for a few minutes to practice what he's going to say before going 'live'. That would explain the 'rehearsal' video and that he knew the cameraman's name. Remember Gene didn't lose anyone that day, he's probably somewhat emotionally detached and perhaps the whole I'm going to be on TV thing got the better of him and he decided he was going to ramp it up a notch.
Admittedly, unlikely and unnatural given the context but again not unthinkable, perhaps? I don't know. I do know (or am of very strong opinion that) he was acting but I don't know why. If it could be proven the video was filmed the day before, that would be all you needed - slam dunk. But the helicopter suggests it was on the day, right?
Also telling, is the fact that the cameraman does seem to interject at times. It's not clear what he says. Some say he says "No", or "Cut!" at times but I cannot hear exactly what he says. It sounds more to me like a gasp and not an actual word - nevertheless, Gene reacts to the interjection.
The very fact that the cameraman interjected however is suspicious. Even if the event were real and Gene borrowed a cameraman to rehearse because he was nervous, the cameraman would surely not have much knowledge of the chain of events and have no opinion and thus no cause or reason to interject at anytime. The one time I would accept interjection would be when Gene swore using the f-word. That's fine, a cameraman knows what words are and are not permitted on live television. When the interjections happen, Gene backs up and changes the narrative as pointed out by the video narrator. This is interesting for the reasons I've just mentioned.
I've never expressed my opinion about this event because of it's very nature. If it happened and those children died in the way they did, out of respect from them and their families, it's something I'd like to tread lightly around. I would never have brought it up if it weren't for the leaked video. Without going off on any other tangents or lines of discussion, can we talk about Gene?
TL;DR: Gene was acting, but why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqJh7FzS1Ao
*Edited some spelling and added an extra sentence but before any comments have been made.
30 comments
14 Putin_loves_cats 2015-12-12
Good post OP. I agree. Him and the Coroner are suspect (so are the families, so unnatural almost surreal). What this event was? Idk. But fuckery is going on. Not too mention inconsistencies and records being sealed via laws passed after the incident. This whole thing stinks and a cover up cannot be denied, it's right there (if you look).
7 HoneycombEarth 2015-12-12
https://www.reddit.com/r/C_S_T/comments/3m8sll/too_weird_the_esoteric_significance_of_newtown/
0 know_comment 2015-12-12
Yes. And Con-nec-ti-cut.
The neck tie cut is a tradition in leo deprtments for agents caught sleeping on the job.
The nation was caught sleeping, hence con (continental, like con ed, conair and con agra). And we were conned by this neck tie cut (see confidence trick).
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7 RMFN 2015-12-12
First I'm hearing this.
3 bitcoin_noob 2015-12-12
It's clearly visible in a few of the interviews. Unfortunately I don't have link handy to those specific ones.
1 Lose__Not__Loose 2015-12-12
https://youtu.be/wZQ3hPcxdQA?t=17s
Adam Lanza drove a black Civic and the car in Gene's driveway looks like maybe a charcoal or navy Accord. I'm not too good with colors but that definitely isn't a Civic.
9 MarioKart-Ultra 2015-12-12
I honestly stayed away from alternate theories about Sandy Hook for a while, but Gene Rosen's acting made me investigate further. My god, not only is the emotion faked, but the story about six children walking to his house and just like chilling there? It's so unbelievably suspicious.
When I look at Sandy Hook from afar, I almost believe that those in charge of the "event" literally thought, "let's see how poorly we can produce this event and get away with it".
4 RMFN 2015-12-12
It's sad how sloppy it was.
2 Atom_Rivers 2015-12-12
it looks to be a test so they can see who is awake and who is asleep still. that slow boil isn't so slow anymore.
1 Lose__Not__Loose 2015-12-12
He also changed that story several times.
1 ancap47 2015-12-12
Have you ever met any of the people in freemasonic ruling families? Most - not all, but most - are utter dipshits. When you live a life of privilege that can happen. Its only because of their massive entrenched power, and the abilities of the few who still retain some of their ancestors abilities, that they were able to pull it off at all.
8 thing_on_a_string 2015-12-12
its likely his boyfriend or partner. look at the interior decor of the house...
the Gene and the MSM tries to tell us that Gene is married, they never interviewed the wife, never showed us a photo of the wife. he goes out to breakfast alone minus the wife...
1 Golisten2LennyWhite 2015-12-12
Good point
1 shhfy 2015-12-12
It could have been. Still, it leaves us with a question - why is the cameraman guiding Gene's narrative?
As mentioned in the video linked, Gene would be legally negligent if he didn't call the police right away. He should also not swear on national live TV and most regular people don't use "Cut!". The cameraman really seems to be more aware of police procedures, broadcasting rules and the narrative.
Of particular note is that last point, the cameraman seems to be more in tune with a narrative or chronological order than Gene is.
1 ancap47 2015-12-12
LOL...I could tell he was gay right from the start. He has that gay man lisp. Not to mention that homosexuality and kiddie fucking seems to be pretty rampant in the occult circles of the elite.
7 DronePuppet 2015-12-12
Very nice. Someone thinking and acting outside emotion. The media and government have figured out that people respond to emotions. Tramadic ones work the best. Pearl Harbor, 9/11 and all these strange shootings. I believe the media gets fed all the details beforehand so that they can all work to portray the same thing. No real investigative details are shared with the public. Just bits and pieces. All controlled!
3 mr_dong 2015-12-12
Nice rational observations OP.
3 Sabremesh 2015-12-12
Thanks for posting this. I think your gut reaction (or subconscious, if you will) to Gene Rosen's television performances is spot on.
I subscribe to theory that our conscious minds, although superficially smart, are easily duped, whereas our subconscious minds are a much better lie/bullshit detector. Unfortunately, our conscious mind is a loudmouth and a bully and tends to drown out signals being sent by our wiser (but less articulate) subconscious.
I watched Sandy Hook unfold in real time on the news, and Gene Rosen's interviews set off a storm of WTF in my head - my gut reaction was "this man is a liar". Like you, I didn't know why, other than he was probably part of whatever happened inside Sandy Hook Elementary - which clearly was NOT the work of a lone, disturbed teenager called "Adam" Lanza.
2 metabolix 2015-12-12
Good post
1 FMTY 2015-12-12
Video and post 9 days ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/SandyHookHoax/comments/3v96zq/was_the_sandy_hook_shooting_a_hoax_or_a_real/
1 Golisten2LennyWhite 2015-12-12
Have you seen the videos that go into how he worked for fema helping children in crisis situations. There's a picture of him with a kid in texas I think at a drill. Hes handing a flyer and smiling.
1 ancap47 2015-12-12
No, the most compelling piece of evidence is the proof that donation websites were up before the event happened. Google and Bing don't just willy-nilly post false cache dates.
-2 Subzeb8 2015-12-12
What I don't get is how people come to the conclusion that he's acting.
3 BottomlessPete 2015-12-12
Also, even if we suppose he is acting, even if we assume he made up the story, does that somehow mean Lanza didn't do it? The simplest explanation would be Rosen is an attention-seeker.
3 bitcoin_noob 2015-12-12
No. It is but another chink in the chain of completely bizzarre non sensical shit that is sandy hook.
1 totally_not_JIDF 2015-12-12
What I don't get is why you're such a loser that you have to pretend to be someone your not online for less than minimum wage.
And yes, I am calling you a shill. It shouldn't be against the rules or offend anyone to say that about you, but apparently Swartz died for nothing and now my comment has to be removed so some faggot like you can have a "safe space" where all you do is suck Israeli cock and apologize for child rapists.
I try to see humans as a positive force in this world, but constant bombardment from sick shit monsters like you are really starting to wear on that idea. Maybe humans are just evil, I don't know though, you would.
-1 Subzeb8 2015-12-12
Is this like some copypasta or something?
1 thing_on_a_string 2015-12-12
its called being human and not being a soulless marketing droid.
that and the contradictory lies he tells at different times.
-1 Subzeb8 2015-12-12
So if someone is a "droid", they're acting?
7 HoneycombEarth 2015-12-12
https://www.reddit.com/r/C_S_T/comments/3m8sll/too_weird_the_esoteric_significance_of_newtown/
-1 Subzeb8 2015-12-12
So if someone is a "droid", they're acting?